Glaciers have advanced and retreated before

From CFACT

By Kelvin Kemm

We constantly hear panic stories about glaciers melting, accompanied by hysterical voices calling out that retreating glaciers are a clear sign of human-induced global warming.

Much of this hysteria is driven by green activists and politicians who know just enough to be dangerous but not enough to be sensible.

Scientifically you can’t come to a conclusion, on the basis of a principle. You have to look at the real science and carry out correct measurements.

This is a complex subject, but let us have a quick look at the issue. What about atmospheric warming? Well, for starters, we need some physics. For a gram of cold glacial ice to warm up by 1°C, say from -4°C to -3°C, it takes about two Joules of heat. It needs this amount of heat for each degree Celsius that the ice warms. Inside a glacier it can be as cold as -50°C, but let us just consider the top part and, being generous, call it -10°C. In other words, to raise the temperature of a gram of ice from -10°C to 0°C we will need about 20 Joules. So far so good. So where would this heat come from? Well, the global warming enthusiasts say, ‘from the atmosphere.’ So we take 20 Joules from the atmosphere. That is reasonable.

But now for a bit more physics. When you melt ice to water, it needs a huge amount of heat to separate the frozen molecules. In fact, it takes just over 300 Joules for each gram. Remember that it takes 20 Joules to raise the temperature of a gram of ice by 10°C, but 300 Joules to turn that one gram of ice into water. So where does the 300 Joules of heat come from? ‘Well, the atmosphere,’ say the warmists. If that much heat is being pulled out of the atmosphere, why do we not see the air above a glacier cooling off? After all, the warmists are worrying about the atmosphere warming by only 1 or 2°C.

So if an entire glacier is melting faster than before, where on earth (excuse the pun) is all that melting-heat coming from? Remember, millions of grams of ice each needing 300 Joules just to melt. That is a vast amount of energy.

What about an alternative mechanism? There is another option. That is; direct sunlight falling on the glacier surface. What is known to happen is that sunlight warms the top couple of millimetres of the ice, which melts quite easily. So an obvious question is; where does that water go? The simple answer is that it percolates downwards through the fissures in the glacier. The water works its way to the bottom, where the ice lies on the bedrock. There it acts as a lubricant, and reduces the friction between the ice and the rock. So the ice can slide faster.

Therefore the whole glacier becomes more mobile, and more big chunks can break off at the end of the glacier.

The amount of sunlight falling on the glacier’s surface has nothing to do with the temperature of the atmosphere. In contrast, it has to do with the amount of cloud cover, which in turn is linked to the amount of cosmic radiation coming in from outer space. That in turn is linked to the magnetic activity of the Sun, because the Sun influences the protective magnetic barrier around the Earth.

Where this magnetic barrier ‘leaks’ is seen at the North and South poles where we see the spectacular Aurorae which form curtains of waving light sheets in the night sky.

So we clearly have a perfectly reasonable mechanism for retreating glaciers which has nothing to do with atmospheric warming.

But there is yet more! There has been a huge archaeological benefit resulting from the retreat of some glaciers, and melting ice sheets.

What has happened is that melting ice has revealed thousands of ancient artefacts which have been a bonanza for historians and archaeologists. For example, 10,000 year old Atlati spear-throwing hunting darts have been found in the Rocky Mountains and the Canadian Yukon.

Intact arrows have been found in a Norwegian mountain pass dating to 3,000 to 4,000 years ago. They have quartzite arrowheads secured by animal sinew and Birch-bark glue. A 1,700 year old Roman-style shoe was also found in Norway. In the Schnidejoch pass in the Swiss Alps, leather trousers, shoes and Birch-bark arrows were found, dating back to 3,000 to 4,000 BCE.

The list goes on, but what it shows is that there was no thick ice cover there in the past, at times like 1,700 years ago, 3,000 years ago, and 10,000 years ago. This indicates that ice cover and glaciers, have come and gone on a regular basis in the past. These past changes certainly had nothing to do with industrially-produced carbon dioxide.

But they can be linked to the magnetic activity of the Sun.

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June 6, 2026 2:14 pm

The water works its way to the bottom, where the ice lies on the bedrock. There it acts as a lubricant, and reduces the friction between the ice and the rock. So the ice can slide faster.

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Uh the glacier already produces enough pressure to form a film of water on which to slide. So that’s so much fiction. besides that, if it’s Greenland, the ice needs to slide up hill.

The point here is, glaciers don’t need any more water to slide on on the rock it sits on.

Edward Katz
June 6, 2026 2:25 pm

Don’t the records show that the planet has experienced a number of ice ages and warming periods during past 50,000 years at least? So what’s the big deal about glacial fluctuation since it’s been a regular occurrence? Didn’t the glacial retreat that began around 10,000 years ago usher in the warming period that we’re experiencing now with its steady increase in human population, life expectancy, agricultural output, scientific, technological and medical advances? Meanwhile infant mortality rates and poverty levels have been declining as global GDP rises. The reality is that humans have taken advantage of whatever warming has been occurring regardless of any short-term glacial advances and retreats, and the alarmists should face the reality that no one is staying awake nights worrying about some non-existent climate crisis.

Reply to  Edward Katz
June 6, 2026 3:12 pm

have been declining as global GDP rises

Trouble is, the anti-CO2 scam is now causing GDP’s to decline in countries that embrace the idiocy.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Edward Katz
June 6, 2026 3:40 pm

Actually, the ‘present’ ice age record goes back to about 2.3 Mya, presumably when the Isthmus of Panama finally closed from plate tectonics and fundamentally changed ocean circulation. For about the first 1.3 my of that, the periodicy between long time more ice/short time less ice was about 45-50 centuries. For some not yet discovered reason, about 1mya it changed to a periodicy of about 120-130 centuries. Where it is today. The last Eemian ‘less ice’ interglacial ‘high stand’ lasted about 12 centuries and ended about 118 centuries ago judging from geological records of sea level high stands. We are therefore about ‘due’ for another glacial period to start. Not good news for Canada.

Mr.
June 6, 2026 2:39 pm

Is there a glacier at the foot of Mt Everest?

If so, it would be regurgitating tons of shredded tents, trash, empty oxygen tanks, discarded food, plastic water bottles, human waste, and even rotting cadavers.

Come on, greenies – get your priorities in order.
Campaign for shutting down Mt Everest!

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Mr.
June 6, 2026 3:40 pm

There is and it does.

skitheo
June 6, 2026 2:44 pm

All you have to do is look at the NPS map of Glacier Bay NP at the Brady glacier extent, in particular and the rest of the extents marked on the map:comment image
Most of the recession occurred PRIOR to the 20th century. Brady has expanded.

June 6, 2026 3:09 pm

Many glaciers around the world did not even exist during the MWP…

They only formed during the LIA.. and are still there.

Bob
June 6, 2026 3:14 pm

Very nice.

June 6, 2026 3:39 pm

If you spend enough time on glaciers (I spent 2 months on an Antarctic Glacier) you would know of the meltwater streams on the surface – very active during direct sunshine. Nothing when they go into shadow. It is the sunlight, not the air temperature, that is doing the surface melting. Only rarely did the shaded surface air temp go above zero – usually a rare up glacier breeze from the sea . The predominant wind is katabatic down glacier but that can be “warm” at high velocities. The terminal face melting is mainly the ocean supplying the heat. Advance/ retreat is all the snowfall surface melt and terminal face balance points. No rain down there to confuse the issue.

Scissor
Reply to  Chris Morris
June 6, 2026 3:57 pm

Pick up any meteorites?

Julius Sanks
June 6, 2026 3:59 pm

“If that much heat is being pulled out of the atmosphere, why do we not see the air above a glacier cooling off?”
— Kelvin is correct about glaciers coming and going. Else why has the planet seen glacial periods come and go? That said: okay, I’ve actually stood on a glacier. Athabasca Glacier, Jasper National Park, Alberta. It was high summer, warm everywhere else. Lemme tell ya, despite it being high summer, the air coming off that giant block of ice was really cold! Flowed downhill to the parking lot. The ice was incredibly dirty, so sunlight was probably heating the dirt more than the ice itself. Also possibly from radiant heat off the nearby rocks. I think the thermodynamics is much more complex than this. Oh, and a friendly warning: If you walk through the mud below the toe to reach the ice, plan to replace your shoes. The ice grinds the rock so finely it penetrates every opening in the shoes. No amount of cleaning can get it out.