Suppose that you are a large U.S. state with a dynamic modern economy. Here’s an idea for a strategy for powering your electrical grid: Intentionally disinvest in your functioning fossil fuel generation plants; fail to maintain them adequately, and let them age into obsolescence. Meanwhile, encourage and even subsidize the development of solar panels as a replacement. After all, solar power is cheaper!
Those who follow the policy of New York State with respect to our electrical grid will recognize this description as covering the essential elements of our strategy. In our case, the strategy was mainly enacted into law in 2019 via the Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act (CLCPA).
In heading down this path, have we checked around to see what other states or countries have adopted this strategy, and how it has worked out? Just asking.
Let’s start with a quick review of New York’s currently-existing strategy for its grid.
Today, the State gets something over half of its electricity from fossil fuels, almost entirely natural gas, with most of the remainder from hydro (mostly Niagara Falls) and nuclear. The CLCPA contains mandates that that shall change, and rapidly. Section 4 of the CLCPA (codified as Public Service Law § 66-p(2)) mandates that the State get “seventy percent of the state wide electric generation” from “renewable energy systems” by 2030, and that by 2040 “the statewide electrical demand system will be zero emissions.”
These mandates are then administered by state agencies, particularly the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC). If you want to build a new power plant in New York, or do a major capital project on an existing plant (such as re-powering a natural gas plant with the latest combined cycle technology), you need to get a permit from DEC. Section 7 of the CLCPA gives the following direction to DEC (and other agencies) with respect to issuing permits:
[A]ll state agencies shall consider whether such decisions are inconsistent with, or will interfere with, the attainment of the statewide greenhouse gas emissions limits. . . .
Back in 2021, two aging natural gas plants — the Astoria plant in Queens and the Danskammer plant along the Hudson River in Orange County — sought permits from DEC to re-power to the latest natural gas technology. DEC denied the permits, citing the CLCPA. From Politico, October 27, 2021:
Gov. Kathy Hochul’s administration has made a landmark move to deny permits for two natural gas plants seeking to repower, citing the state’s climate law. The Department of Environmental Conservation denied permits for NRG’s Astoria plant and the Danskammer plant in Orange County. Both plants were seeking to repower with more efficient natural gas units than their previous operations. The decisions were embraced by environmentalists who have been pushing for years to block the fossil fuel projects. . . . “Both [plants] would be inconsistent with New York’s nation-leading climate law, and are not justified or needed for grid reliability. We must shift to a renewable future,” wrote DEC Commissioner Basil Seggos on Twitter.
Since then, as far as I can determine, nobody has wasted the effort to try to get DEC to go along with a project to build or upgrade a fossil fuel power plant. As a result, the existing fleet has just gotten older. In its “Power Trends” Report issued in late 2025, the New York ISO described the state of New York’s aging fleet of fossil fuel power plants:
A growing number of fossil-fuel generators in New York are reaching an age at which similar units across the country have been deactivated. New York’s fleet of fossil-fuel-based generation includes more than 10,000 MW, roughly 25% of the state’s total generating capacity, that has been in operation for more than 50 years. As these fossil-fuel generators age, they are experiencing more frequent and longer outages. Greater difficulties in maintaining older equipment, combined with the impact of policies to restrict or eliminate emissions may drive aging generators to deactivate, which would exacerbate declining reliability margins.
“Declining reliability margins” is a polite way of saying “increasing frequency and duration of blackouts.”
With hydro already built out, and new nuclear taking decades to come online, that leaves wind and solar as the main plan for the future of New York’s electricity. In the case of wind, New York’s grand scheme was a vast collection of some 9 GW capacity of giant turbines off the coast of Long Island. However, that has been almost entirely scuttled by the Trump administration. And thus we are down to our last option, solar. The brain-dead cheerleading agency known as NYSERDA (New York State Energy Research & Development Agency) has this to say about solar for New York as of early 2026:
More than six gigawatts (GW) of solar energy has been installed in New York State – enough to power one million homes and businesses. This robust solar energy infrastructure enables a resilient electric grid that supports local jobs, healthier communities, and access to renewable energy for more New Yorkers. . . . By 2030, New York is expected to be home to more than 10 GW of distributed solar energy.
So by 2030, if we’re lucky, we’ll have the same fleet of natural gas plants, yet four years older than today and, as NYISO says, “experiencing more frequent and longer outages”; plus about 10 GW of solar capacity, to supply about 20 GW of average demand, and about 35 GW of peak demand that typically occurs in the evening after the sun has set.
Has any other state or country tried following the same strategy? Some big countries like Germany and the UK have started down this road. But if the key elements are forcing the thermal plants to age into obsolescence while having mostly solar as the alternative, the closest analogy I can find is Cuba.
Cuba has about 4000 MW of thermal (fossil fuel) electricity generating capacity, in their case almost all using oil rather than natural gas. The plants were almost all built from the 1960s to 1980s — the Soviet era — so they range in age from just under 40 years to over 60. Peak demand is around 3250 MW, so you would think that with the 4000 MW of capacity they have enough. But the plants are old and unreliable, and frequently down for extended maintenance and repairs.
Here’s a report from a source called Ciber Cuba on how Cuba’s electricity system is doing this very day. The headline is “The energy crisis in Cuba worsens: nearly 2,000 MW deficit during peak hours.” Excerpt:
Cuba faces one of the most critical days of its already devastated electrical crisis this Tuesday, with a projected deficit of 1,960 MW during peak nighttime hours, according to the official report from the Electric Union (UNE). The report reveals that at 06:00 hours today, the availability of the National Electric System (SEN) was only 1,250 MW against a demand of 2,884 MW, with 1,649 MW already affected since the early morning. The situation is expected to worsen as night falls. The UNE estimates a supply of 1,290 MW against a peak demand of 3,250 MW, resulting in a deficit of 1,960 MW and a projected impact of 1,990 MW during peak hours, equivalent to leaving almost two-thirds of the country without electricity.
So basically, two-thirds of the country is in forced blackout at any given time. Recent fuel shortages resulting from the U.S. embargo that began in January undoubtedly are a contributing factor to the crisis. However, Ciber Cuba points out that just as big a problem is that many of the aging power plants are out of service:
[A]ccumulated breakdowns partly explain the collapse. Units two and three of the Ernesto Guevara de la Serna Thermoelectric Power Plant (CTE), unit two of the Lidio Ramón Pérez CTE, and unit five of the Antonio Maceo CTE are out of service, while four other units are undergoing maintenance at the Mariel, Renté, and Nuevitas plants.
More availability of oil would not have helped with those outages. And the electricity situation in Cuba was nearly as bad last year, before the fuel supply from Venezuela got cut off. Here is a report from Al-Jazeera from September 2025:
Another total electricity blackout has struck Cuba, the latest in a string of grid collapses that have rocked the island of 10 million over the past year. The island-wide outage, which hit just after 9am local time on Wednesday, is believed to be linked to a malfunction at one of Cuba’s largest thermoelectric plants, the Ministry of Energy and Mines said.
But doesn’t Cuba have a big collection of solar farms? I thought that, in the words of NYSERDA, “robust solar energy infrastructure enables a resilient electric grid that supports local jobs, healthier communities, and access to renewable energy.” Why not just crank those up to fill the gaps when the fossil fuel plants break down? From the Ciber Cuba piece:
The 54 installed photovoltaic solar parks generated 3,822 MWh on Monday, with a maximum capacity of 490 MW during daylight hours; however, this source does not cover the nighttime deficit, which is when demand peaks.
You mean that all the solar generation that Cuba has built doesn’t provide any light in the nighttime? Who knew?

If we keep up our current energy policies for long enough, we can also get to the point where our thermal (fossil fuel) power plants are too old to be maintained reliably. And then, if we are lucky, we can hope to achieve the energy utopia that has arrived in Cuba.
The “citizens” of New York voted for this, repeatedly. They have to be made to suffer, the lesson driven home like a nightstick to the head repeatedly, in order to learn from this.
“The “citizens” of New York voted for this.” After seeing the results of various state and city voter roll investigations I’m not so sure this is true for any state much less our country.
They voted for it, time to ram it up their a$$es.
Dude: I lived in New York City for 10 years. My daughter has been there for 20 years. The political spectrum in that town runs from center left (Schumer) to far left (AOC and Mamdani) to utterly bat guano crazy.
No conceivable honest election would produce results different than what you see.
Correct.
NY&California have reached a level of progressivism that no more rigging is necessary. They became one-party states where an election only determines how rabid and pervert the governance will be.
The sad thing is that voters outside of NYC and Albany did not vote for this and they are the ones being most affected by it. I just posted a comment about a young lady who as started a non-profit – https://www.americanlandrescuefund.com/ to fight this nonsense. You can check out her Facebook page to get an idea of the kind of work she is doing. It’s quite impressive. https://www.facebook.com/alexandra.fasulo
So, again, we must destroy the earth to save it.
Idiots (the solar farm developers, politicians, and supporters).
My wife and I took a child rearing class called “Natural Consequences.”
It applies, but it is sad the idiots enacting this are inflicting such suffering on so many people.
You are forgetting the power that virtue signaling provides. Virtue signaling gives you wings.
These pigs can fly?
😉
Virtue signaling gives you wiiiings?
Virtue signaling gives you whinges!
Like I have said before no committee, council, board or any other gaggle of humans can compete with the market. The market says wind and solar can’t support a modern society. The market says fossil fuel, hydro and nuclear can support a modern society. This is really simple.
Communist leaders do what Communist leaders do.
New York and California are fighting to see which can become the poster child for energy suicide. My bet is on CA because NY gets a good share of electricity from hydro and nuclear.
I put my money on Maryland. Forty percent of their power and all of the state’s future needs must be obtained on the open market, buying the surplus power produced in neighboring states. Soon those states won’t have any surplus to sell them. No back-up plan.
They have delayed the closure of two, old coal burning plants:
“Brandon Shores Unit 1 began operations in 1984, and Unit 2 followed in 1991.
Reason for Delay: The shutdown was delayed due to grid reliability concerns (known as a “reliability-must-run” or RMR agreement) to prevent potential outages while transmission upgrades are completed in the Baltimore area [a new transmission line to bring in power produced out of state].
Additional Delays: The nearby H.A. Wagner plant, which is also over 50 years old (operating since 1966–1972) and was slated for 2025 retirement, also had its shutdown delayed to 2029.”
There is nothing in the works to replace them. Anything built instate would have to be renewables or else tied up in court for a decade. Their only other option is to decrease instate production and try to buy more from other states. The latter is currently their plan, but if they use the new transmission line to retire the coal plants, they are only running in place. They have no net increase in power to provide for growth. And they are at the mercy of what the markets charge for the out-of-state power.
Ah, but our Governor has declared he will solve this problem with goo, “Clean” and “Green” energy generation.
I think I need to buy a battery system and inverter.
My bet is the UK.
When Starmer is forced to resign, we’re going to end up with Miliband who will start the final rush over the edge of the cliff.
As an aside, I think Strat and my fellow Brits will back me up on this:
Our PMs are selected by the party they represent, they are not voted in as PM by the general population. When the Tories were in power they changed Prime Ministers more often than I change my socks. Each time we had a new Tory PM, the left were always bleating that the new PM didn’t have a mandate, because he/she hadn’t been voted in.
My bet is we will hear nothing from the left when Miliband is anointed PM.
I’d agree with that, Redge.
(Fellow Brit)
Any reliable FF generation plant over 40 should be in the planning stages for replacement at this time. Approval takes time and construction takes more time. You don’t want to rotate in out of reliable dispatchable generation and depend on Wind/Solar alone. They are far too weather dependent to be reliable as you can only run them WHEN Nature decides to deliver your fuel.
But the fuel is free!
So is coal, petroleum, natural gas, uranium, and water.
The cost is not the fuel.
The cost is getting the fuel to the generator, converting it to electricity, and getting the electricity reliably and on demand to where it is needed.
The extra costs are loss of arable land, deforestation, and a boat load of environmental damages, not to mention toxic waste disposal.
Cuba is only a “modest” success, its “trajectory is headed in the right direction but remains slower than the ~4% per year global benchmark associated with a net-zero-by-2050 pathway” and “further reductions remain important to limit warming.”
And more needs to be done to eliminate agriculture and livestock emissions, ideally zero population might be the most effective solution.
Aka The Population Bomb (and other Paul R. Ehrlich propaganda) and The Limits to Growth (and other Club of Rome propaganda).
Funny how the Green Revolution that augmented farming ans food production has now been hijacked and repurposed for the purpose of killing people.
They are not alone. Australia is doing this across the country.
Australian home owners enjoy a significant advantage over New York. Households can make their own electricity and the government is learning it is lower cost to subsidise households to instal solar panels and batteries than take the fight to farmers for land access and sterilising farm land with wind or solar generators.
Australia is rapidly de-industrialising and increasingly powered by rooftop solar. Rooftop solar grew by 8% year-on-year to Q1 2026. Wholesale market declined by 0.5%. Rooftop solar with battery is the fastest growing source of electrical generation in Australia.
If Australia shut down all its existing coal fired power stations today and accept continual blackouts, China and India will offset that reduction by new coal capacity in 4 months. This UN scam has gone on for way too long.
POTUS Trump is doing God’s work in defunding the UN. History will record him as the most influential leader ever.
The problem with the Oz solution, (using household batteries and solar to self power), is linked to the probability of an extended period of low solar illumination.
As an example, a ‘large’ battery installation will be 10kWh. An average daily consumption during a cold wet winter could be 20kWh. Now stretch that out for three days.
Clearly the grid ‘enjoy’ the peak reduction when the weather is fine but that same grid is toast when the cold wet winter days arrive, especially after the gas for heating has been turned off, (or denied), to the consumer.
The best solution would have been to encourage large scale battery storage for retail and light industry. And insist that the battery be large enough for a minimum of 3 days. Even then, the problem doesn’t go away, it just gets to occur less often. Maybe once a year instead of 10 times.
The average battery size under the Federal scheme is 22kWh. The subsidised portion has been capped at $6,000 so punters need to buy a $20,000 battery to maximise their rebate. That will gat around 40kWh. A lot of homes were going for the 50kWh maximum before the limit was put on it.
Any solar/battery combination is uneconomic against lignite fired generation. A 500ktpa aluminium smelter will not be run off rooftops.
The largest planned data centre for Australia is going into Hazelwood in the Latrobe valley. Although they say it will use the new “renewables” hub it will sit on the lowest cost fuel source in the world.
Tesla Powerwall, (1), 6.4kWh, PW2=13.5kWh. Of course you can install more than one.
Sigenergy, 8kWh per battery, a stack 4 units high, has 32kWh, 1450mm high.
BYD LVL system, 15kWh per block pair.
The household batteries I’ve seen, (small sample size), is much smaller than 50kWh, most were opting for a Tesla scale installation, (13.5kWh), this is not going to help them avoid grid blackout, nor will it help the grid after a couple of days of low solar input. I wonder if the higher than I expect average is due to some large installations raising the average, eg a council depots with 250kWh, etc.
With regard to the data centre in the Latrobe valley, how long will it be before the government realise that the LV is no longer the hub of the power generation wheel, any loads installed there will be no better supplied by the solar in the north east, nor the wind from the south west of the state.
I bet they build it on top of the lignite reserve just to make sure that no one get access to it. It’s probably part of the plan.
Australia want to follow Cuba – not because we are stupid, which we are, but because our betters are so far into their cult-like devotion to Net Zero that they don’t know how to get out..
Bowen knows what to do, it is based on finding the people like you and I and sending us to a re-education camp till we see the light, (and accept that 1+1=3).
Bowen knows that the problem with ruinable power is not the batteries, nor the W&S, it’s the people with an understanding of physics and our continuing reluctance to accept that the laws of physics cannot be cancelled by parliament.
For a start tell them to get their heads out of their behinds.
“… giant turbines off the coast of Long Island. However, that has been almost entirely scuttled by the Trump administration.”
Did this not include the provision that the fees paid by the companies would be returned but had to be used to develop carbon-based (FF) alternatives? To which states will that activity be directed?
Good question. I believe it will be in and around the Gulf Coast.
Not New York. By law and fiat.
Solar power in upstate NY? What a farce! In this part of the state (I live in Rochester), we have one of the cloudiest and low insolation parts of the USA due to clouds-with more than 200 cloudy days a year-influenced by Lake Ontario and to our northern latitude, especially in winter. And we are already rationing power here….
So the US puts an embargo on New York because they don’t like their leadership? How about finishing the mess i Iran first?
I’m with you there User.
They need to bomb some sense into Iran and its “Five Families”.
(remember how Michael Corleone put hits on all the heads of the other 4 families?)
That’s the way you do it.
Sunni for nothing and your fix for free.
If you haven’t been asleep for the past few weeks – the bombing doesn’t work. Maybe read up on the geography of iran and how they prepared against the US for decades. That will be a new forever war. Guess why nobody but private bone spurs was dumb enough to attack?
Again, real life is not a hollywood movie. This could be written under half of the comments here about the war.
Trump’s remarkable military failure shows abject fiasco of his Iran war
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-iran-missiles-us-war-failure-b2975636.html
The War in Iran is Causing an Energy Crisis Nobody Can Opt Out Of
https://time.com/article/2026/05/14/iran-war-energy-crisis-clean-transition/
Like most socialists, LooserName wants instant solutions, and when they aren’t coming throughs a fit.
I want solutions that work and so far trump is moving in the opposite direction.
I will defend to the death your Constitutional Right to prove yourself an idiot.
The mess in Iran will be taken care of just as soon as the regime holds it next in-person meeting of senior leaders – if you know what I mean.
Wow! I never thought you’d be egging on the USA to bring a Middle Eastern, Muslim dominated, misogynistic, abusive, murdering, homophobic, persecutor of minorities regime into the 21st Century.
There’s hope for you yet, mate.
No, I’m saying trump should clean up the mess he created. But nepo baby probably never had to clean anything on his own.
Not sure if islam or maga
You’re not sure about anything, so to be clear Iran is an Islamic country who are misogynistic, abusive, murderers, homophobic, persecutors of minorities and have a clear stated aim to eradicate from the face of the earth all Jews
How does that sit with your left wing ideology or do you agree with the Iranian regime?
The TDS is strong in that one, Obi-wan.
Oh no – the name of our supreme leader has been used in vain. Quick, to the TDS defense!
The catnip works again.
Sweet!
I neither agree with maga or iran, but I’m sure if it wasn’t for their fictional sky-daddy those two would be best friends.
So, despite spouting such nonsense you clearly know nothing about about Iran and the history of the region.
Thank you for admitting you’ve no idea what you are talking about.
It really is amazing how socialists live in a world of their own making.
The mess started in 1979. Precursors started in 1941 with added excitement in 1953.
So it does not fall exclusively on Trump.
Since 1979:
Carter
Reagan
Bush
Clinton
Bush
Obama
Biden
Trump is working to clean up a mess that started 47 years ago.
We understand you hate Trump.
Shame on you that you feel that hate gives you license to lie..
Here we go. Flame Warrior alert!
The US did not put an embargo on New York, not for their leadership (oxymoron) or any other reason except off shore wind farms are not economically viable and are environmental disasters.
The mess in Iran will not be finished until Iran no longer has excessively enriched uranium and the ability to further enrich beyond the 5% needed for power generation and medical purposes. Iran has demonstrated a launch vehicle that can hit London and it does not take much modification to the maneuverable payload to extend the range to the US east coast. Iran may not have an atomic bomb (they might) but 60% uranium with high explosives is a radiological weapon that will kill millions.
Folks in Cuba don’t have to worry about freezing to death in the Winter.
If you add ‘robust’ to your proclamations you got the gullibles in your pocket.
When the crash comes the neighboring states are supposed to jump to the rescue. That would have a serious effect on the price of electricity, hence their citizens would pay for NY’s stupidity. They won’t like it one bit. Solution: shut down the inter-connectors.
One detail you left out is ORES – Office of Renewable Energy Siting and Electric Transmission. ORES simply rubber stamps any permitting request at least for Solar and likely wind as well. There is a young lady in NY who has formed a non-profit – https://www.americanlandrescuefund.com/ specifically to fight via every legal means possible the spread of this scourge across New York. If Facebook is any barometer, grass roots efforts in New York are starting to gain traction in fighting against grid scale solar and wind complexes – they are not “farms”. Her facebook page is here for anyone interested in getting an idea of the work she is doing – it’s pretty impressive.
Here is a video created by Robert Bryce highlighting many of the negative issues with solar industrial complexes.
One money line in the video shows a comparison of a 270 MW (nameplate) solar complex covering 2300 acres or 3.5 square miles to a 1200 MW gas plant covering 26 acres or 88 times smaller while producing over 4 times as much electricity 24/7/365 while the solar complex produces electricity maybe 20% of the time and never after dusk or before dawn. Also, that solar farm may last 15-20 years at best whereas the gas plant will last 50 years or longer. And, those solar panels can’t be produced without burning a lot of fossil fuels to power the machinery needed to mine/process/transport minerals, manufacture, site prep, lifecycle maintenance and ultimate decommissioning – and what are we going to do with all those end of life solar panels? And of course, both wind and solar need a backup system for the times the wind does not blow and the sun does not shine adding to overall system cost. And who benefits most from all this? China! https://robertbryce.substack.com/p/sunblock-the-global-fight-to-save?utm_id=97758_v0_s00_e232_tv2_tp1_a1demoo4qyk3vl&fbclid=IwY2xjawRxakhleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFIcUdKYTUyZE1EMzFicGFOc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHici4HKcokwRfS-oKimRolRfx4snnEbtC2O5PpSEso5lCKegL0NLq2vftLLw_aem_ADFr_66sMGdRwWCSd6RMsw
Luckily in Ontario the Liberals were ‘let go’, so we dropped the same delusions about ‘green’ that NY still has (they wrote it into law!). I am not touting Dougie the Progressive as an example to anyone else by the way, but he is a bit better than the past Liberal leaders in some ways, such as supporting the repair and build of nuclear reactors that keeps the lights on.
The Trump Administration should introduce a law, in the event of avoidable blackouts, holding those persons in charge personally liable for endangering lives especially the old and infirm.
Don’t worry. So many people are leaving New York that not much electricity will be needed.
I never thought that “Escape From New York” was a documentary but it appears to be so.