From the University of Arizona and the “Emily Litella er, Greta Thunberg School of Climate Attribution” comes this breath of fresh air. BTW, Willis was right.
Extinction rates have slowed across many plant and animal groups, study shows
Prominent research studies have suggested that our planet is currently experiencing another mass extinction, based on extrapolating extinctions from the past 500 years into the future and the idea that extinction rates are rapidly accelerating.
A new study by Kristen Saban and John Wiens with the University of Arizona Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, however, revealed that over the last 500 years extinctions in plants, arthropods and land vertebrates peaked about 100 years ago and have declined since then. Furthermore, the researchers found that the past extinctions underlying these forecasts were mostly caused by invasive species on islands and are not the most important current threat, which is the destruction of natural habitats.
The paper argues that claims of a current mass extinction may rest on shaky assumptions when projecting data from past extinctions into the future, ignoring differences in factors driving extinctions in the past, the present and the future. Published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society of London, the paper is the first study to analyze rates, patterns and causes of recent extinctions across plant and animal species.
For their study, Saban and Wiens analyzed rates and patterns of recent extinctions, specifically across 912 species of plants and animals that went extinct over the past 500 years. All in all, data from almost 2 million species were included in the analysis.
“We discovered that the causes of those recent extinctions were very different from the threats species are currently facing,” said Wiens, professor of ecology and evolutionary biology. “This makes it problematic to extrapolate these past extinction patterns into the future, because the drivers are rapidly changing, particularly with respect to habitat loss and climate change.”
According to Saban and Wiens, the most direct information on species losses comes from recent extinctions over the past five centuries. However, studies extrapolating these patterns into the future generally assume that recent extinctions predict current extinction risk and are homogeneous among groups, over time and among environments, the authors argue.
“To our surprise, past extinctions are weak and unreliable predictors of the current risk that any given group of animals or plants is facing,” said lead author Saban, who recently graduated from the U of A and is currently a doctoral student at Harvard University.
Extinction rates varied strongly among groups, and extinctions were most frequent among mollusks, such as snails and mussels, and vertebrates, but relatively rare among plants and arthropods. Most extinctions were of species that were confined to isolated islands, like the Hawaiian Islands. On continents, most extinctions were in freshwater habitats. Island extinctions were most frequently related to invasive species, but habitat loss was the most important cause (and current threat) in continental regions. Many species appeared to go extinct on islands because of predators and competitors brought by humans, such as rats, pigs and goats.
Somewhat unexpectedly, the researchers found that in the last 200 years, there was no evidence for increasing extinction from climate change.
“That does not mean that climate change is not a threat,” Wiens said. “It just means that past extinctions do not reflect current and future threats.”
The authors also considered threat levels – for example “threatened,” “endangered” or “least concern,” – for 163,000 species as assessed by the International Union for Conservation of Nature.
“The current threat level provides probably our best hint of what is currently happening and might happen in the near future,” Wiens said. “We found the patterns of today’s threats to be different from those of past extinctions. For example, most extinct species are mollusks and vertebrates on islands that were driven extinct by invasive species, but most threatened species today are mainland species facing habitat destruction.”
Saban said she doesn’t want the study “to be taken as giving people a carte blanche” to suggest that human activity does not present a significant and urgent threat to many species.
“Biodiversity loss is a huge problem right now, and I think we have not yet seen the kinds of effects that it might have,” she said. “But it’s important that we talk about it with accuracy, that our science is rigorous in how we’re able to detail these losses and prevent future ones.”
Contrary to many studies, the rates at which species are going extinct are not rapidly accelerating, the study found.
“We show that extinction rates are not getting faster towards the present, as many people claim, but instead peaked many decades ago,” Wiens said.
For some groups, such as arthropods and plants and land vertebrates, extinction rates have actually declined over the last 100 years, notably since the early 1900s, he added. One of the reasons for declining extinction rates “is many people are working hard to keep species from going extinct. And we have evidence from other studies that investing money in conservation actually works.”
According to Saban, the study was born out of a motivation to take a step back from doomsday scenarios.
“If we’re saying that what is happening right now is like an asteroid hitting Earth, then the problem becomes insurmountable,” she said. “By looking at the data in this way, we hope that our study helps inform our overall understanding of biodiversity loss and how we can come up with better ways to address it.”
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I somehow think the True Believers will
not be thrilled with this study.
We know by now that the goal posts are flexible and easily moved. They will ignore the negative finding re: climate change and take solace in still blaming humanity for introducing invasive species to islands and for destroying habitat. The main thing after all is casting blame on humanity, especially capitalist humanity.
“A person who is demoralized is unable to access true information.
The facts tell nothing to him.
Even if I shower him with real information,with authentic proof,with documents,with pictures.
The process of demoralization is complete.
Only when the military boot crushes his balls he will finally understand – but not before that ”
Yuri Bezmenov, Frankenstein of the woke in 1984
“There are 4 stages to subvert a country.
Demoralization
Destabilization(therefore started in the mid 80ies)
Crisis(aside of climate started in 2008 with banks&messiah BHO)
Normalization(of new standards, to be finalized after the great reset)….
Most people who graduated in the 60ies,drop outs, half baked intellectuals, are now occupying positions of power in the government,civil service,mass media,educational system.
You can’t get rid of them.You are stuck with them.They are contaminated…
once the secret cabal is done with those idiots , they’ll be killed(after having served the purpose of destabilizing their country)…
While i worked in India most of the (leftist) Indians cooperating with the Soviets
were listed for execution “
Destabilization(therefore started in the mid 80ies)
So, you’re letting Healey off the hook, then? Really? Why is that?
Please elaborate – I do not know how (a) Healey (John is my guess) fits into Bezmenovs quotes?
As I’m no Anglo-Saxon(not even from western culture)
I generally Focus on main actors behind the curtains throughout history like Cecil Rhodes,Brzezinsky,Kissinger,Baruch
Maybe I missed a historically important Healey or something that made John more outstanding than his peers Milliband,Starmer or those 200 other guys from the Fabian Society who entered the parliament alongside Tony Blairs election.
Britain went broke and cap in hand to the IMF. It was hardly stable.
I guess you experienced it first hand,
and I conclude that the last masculine UK prime minister, Thatcher,
was elected in return.
Btw – I remember reading stuff from an American economist claiming that
the IMF uses the same playbook for all countries over and over again to “help” them (with the goal to impose debts that can’t be paid back followed by draconic austerities), no matter how much they claim that those were specially designed for every single country.
Sadly I don’t have the competence to factcheck it.
Soft occupation(IMF,EU and even NATO) causes significantly less resistance than standing armies.
Sxyxs, my violinist friend is referring to Denis Healey, Labour politician that nurtured the early Bilderberg meetings.
Thx.
First time hearing about him though I know(or believe to) a tiny bit about its beginnings.
But to go full circle – Bezmenov has been referring in his interview about powerful and/or ultrarich people from the west helping the Soviets (not to be confused with the Russians who are hated by those western guys like Blinken,Nuland etc) to subvert the system via MSM, Hollywood etc.
But I’m still struggling to pin the guy down in the Bezmenov(and even overall context) after reading his wiki-page..
He was actually a real war participant(quite unusual for a World Shadow Government participant).
Very Anti-Communist,cut military budget,against nuclear disarmament.
but on the other hand IMF slav…supervision while his country was still paying off the lend-lease.
I guess one needs to be pretty well versed (or has experienced his policies first hand in UK) to put him into the right perspective.
But from what I’ve read just now I’d tend to say that Tony Blair was a bigger bastard.
It’s guitar playing friend – Strat…
It seems you didn’t tell the truth when you said that you stopped listening to Floyd after DSOTM 🙂
Eighty-ties?
Isn’t 80ies correct?
Blame the killing joke song.
By whom? Russia? The US? Rightist Indians?
As Bezmenov worked for the KGB it should be obvious.
It’s also not very likely that he had any insight into kill list of the USA or India as such things are usually top secret.
It was obviously the KGB/ Soviets they’ve been working for, who had the kill list.
That was the reason why Bezmenov eventually fled to Canada after he realised that his Indian friends he’s been working with will be no more once they served their purpose.
Sorry, but verifiable facts are more to my liking. What might be “obvious” to you, might be a “conspiracy theory” to me.
In any case, how many were executed? And by whom? If it didn’t happen, who cares?
Will they read it?
Will they grog the meaning?
Without the above, the thrill will be absent.
They’re more likely to chug grog than to grok it.
I suspect that vaping THC is more likely than drinking grog.
You caught my typo! Well met! 🙂
Sparta, I believe that I have grogged the meaning of the universe on more than one occasion. Unfortunately, I was unable to remember what it was.
No typo, just a sore head.
“I somehow think the True Believers will not be thrilled with this study.”
They will hand wave it away as right wing propaganda. Fox news or Russian disinformation their go to so that cognitive dissonance can be preserved.
Never mind that annoying scientific detail…perpetuate the myth…
Do not bother me with the facts.
Tell me what to believe and where to go protest.
/s
Wow, science without doom, presenting a sober analysis. I think this presents a clear distinction between “environmentalists” and true conservationists. Of course, the obligatory nod to climate change is included; one may assume so as not to appear unduly heretical.
Yes that part is truly like nails on a chalkboard, the boot locking of the stupid Climate Fascists.
My first thought was boot clicking, but that was probably heel clicking, so boot licking might have been what you meant.
I think the Climate Fascists would prefer to strut around in their highly polished riding boots, slapping their thighs with similarly polished riding crops.
Boot licking would be demanded of people who know that adding CO2 to air does not make it hotter. Refusal would be punished by whipping with highly polished riding crops, imprisonment, torture, death – or even worse, listening to presentations by Gavin Schmidt of Michael Mann, on endless loop.
Or you could lock their boots, I suppose. Then they’d just fall flat on their faces.
You left out protestations by Greta.
“How Dare You!”
If pounds sterling were a species most people here would tell you they are going extinct…
Julian Simon got this right decades ago, in arguing with Norman Myers and others.
If you haven’t already seen, Dr. Spencer has the November temperature anomaly update posted.
https://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/
In my auditor days, an “anomaly” was regarded as a “once-er”, not expected to appear again, but something to keep a look-out for,
We didn’t call in the fraud squad every time we spotted an “anomaly”, that’s for sure.
Otherwise we’d have had to set up a permanent on-site office for them.
And supply them with tea, coffee, water, biscuits, ashtrays, newspapers, radio, and toilet access.
And listen to their endless stream of “war stories”.
In retrospect, it was probably our unspoken policy to regard “anomalies” as
“business as usual”.
In engineering, an anomaly is a datum located too far off the curve. Multiple anomalies are usually identified as scatter plots.
One really does not know what these temperature “anomalies” are based on, which average (TM-Tm)/2 or average of averages are the basis.
A 10 degree departure from -20C is treated as equal to a 10 degree departure from 40C? Really does make for creative color schemes, eh?
Here in Wokeachusetts, we have the Natural Heritage and Endangered Species Program, part of the state’s Fish and Wildlife service.
That Program claims there are many rare endangered species in the state. Species which survived clearcutting almost the entire state, then farming most of that land, then several stages of logging and most of that without any professional foresters and without the state oversight.
Yet, they survived. But, now when a forester files a “cutting plan” for a logging project- that agency swoops in says there’s a rare or endangered species on the site- so they have the immense power to drastically change the cutting plan.
It just amazes me that those species survived NOT being PROTECTED- yet now the protection is so critical that they state has the power to reject cutting plans unless drastically modified by the biologists who clearly have no sense of the use of the land for centuries and that those species survived without the agency.
That agency has their atlas of rare and endangered species. How do species get on the atlas? Because ANYBODY who trespasses on your land- can file a report with that agency claiming they saw a rare and/or endangered species. The trespassers’ names are kept secret- they don’t have to be trained biologists- they don’t have to prove they had a right to go on that land. They don’t have to provide documentation to prove that said species is there- just have to claim it.
One of the reasons I retired after 50 years of forestry- the ******* state’s lunatic oversight of forestry! I would have kept at it otherwise.
Ann Rand started describing how these parasites destroy productivity in the 30’s.
I had a friend who had to hire a fisheries biologist to build a house on a hard rock lakefront property dropping to deep water to prove it wouldn’t disturb salmon spawning grounds. Grade school children know that salmon spawn in gravel stream beds. It cost him $100,000 and a 9 month delay on the project.
A current WSJ article on green transition failure in the UK and Europe paints a picture of industry and economic extinction there.
What is the expected rate of extinction?
I get that we want the rate to be zero because we hate to lose things but evolution is real. And sometimes something comes long that out competes the existing lifeforms.
Islands make this more obvious as the arrival is sudden – and usually caused by mankind.
But we would always expect some extinctions, everywhere. What is the expected rate?
Question applies to so manty topics.
WHY is extinction (or anything) bad?
If you exclude theology per modern Western culture then there’s only one answer:
Because I said so.
Consider the alternative – without extinction we’d be fighting off dinosaurs on our morning commutes!
That would mean it would be legal to have a .50 cal mounted to your truck. Bring on the dinos!
I wonder what T-Rex steaks taste like?
And we wouldnt even BE here..
Extinction is the norm. 99.9% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct.
You decide if that is bad or good. I KNOW it is the norm
Evolution entails extinction.
There are a finites, albeit large, number of micro ecosystems, habitats if you will.
For an emerging species to thrive, it has to replace an existing species.
This is Nature.
I) Somewhat unexpectedly, the researchers found that in the last 200 years, there was no evidence for increasing extinction …. II) from climate change.
“That does not mean that climate change is not a threat,” Wiens said. “It just means that past extinctions do not reflect current and future threats.”
The first part is an observation. The second part is speculation based, not on the observation, but on the belief of the authors in the monster ‘climate change’.
Can anyone point to any species, at all, that, in the past 100 years, have gone extinct due to “climate change”?
Michael Moore?
Bill McKibben?
Oh! I found one! Scientific Integrity!
“on the belief of the authors in the monster ‘climate change’”
Or, the authors chose to be politically correct, probably necessary to get published.
Funny the first thought I had was that extinctions probably leveled off because of THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE CLIMATE aka “global warming.”
Since warmer IS BETTER for life of all varieties. “Threat,” my ass.
I have a suspicion that life on Earth adapts to changing conditions. There’s even a theory about it – the theory of evolution.
Untestable, of course, but it seems reasonable until something better comes along.
Many examples have been identified that support the hypothesis.
A wolf eat my cat. Now, there has never been a wolf in this neighbourhood so the chances are slim but i am not saying a wolf DIDN’T eat my cat.
On the other hand: a dingo did steal my baby..!
From the above article’s second full paragraph:
“Furthermore, the researchers found that the past extinctions underlying these forecasts were mostly caused by invasive species on islands and are not the most important current threat, which is the destruction of natural habitats.”
Uh-oh . . . the referenced University of Arizona research paper is certain to receive little lasting attention . . . it left out the most-important-for-publicity-AND-funding phrase “climate change”.
/sarc
“because of predators and competitors brought by humans, such as rats, pigs and goats.” and CATS
. . . and various forms of destructive insects, bacteria and viruses transported around the world via human exploration and trade of food products, timber and other flora . . . introduced into ecosystems that had not previously seen such.
We have had lantern flies recently introduced.
We are doomed.
Hmmm . . , you must still be waiting for Zika virus to arrive at your doorstop . . . or perhaps you just don’t have mosquitoes where you live?
And do you have any clue as to how Zika has managed to spread from Africa, starting in 1969, to India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, and throughout most of Asia and French Polynesia by 2014, and to South and Central America by 2015?
— ref: https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-history-of-zika-virus
Zika virus arrived in the United States in the summer of 2016.
You know, “oceans to cross” and all of that.
I suppose climate change bought the steamer ticket so the skeeter could cross the pond.
Obviously due to the mystical and omnipotent powers of CO2, unless you can prove otherwise.
All hail the great and mighty CO2!
Each skeeter hopped on a CO2 molecule to make the trip. Think of the frequent flier miles accrued.
Such a deflection makes for a Sophistry Class 1 award. Just send $1.99 and 10 box tops to get your medal.
I don’t find it all strange—instead highly amusing— that you know the exact process for how to obtain such medals.
Considering that I issue them, I would hope I know the process.
I remember when a country (forget which) introduced the mongoose to help with snake control. The mongooses were successful and started raiding the chickens. This was years ago.
The population growth from 1 to 8 billion in less than 200 years was based on the PRODUCTS made from fossil fuels.
Wind and solar ONLY generate electricity but CANNOT make any products, even the products needed to make wind turbines and solar panels!
In a world racing toward net-zero fantasies, it could leave billions in the dark without electricity and without the more than 6,000 products that support the 8 billion on this planet.
The world is not racing toward net-zero fantasies. India and China represent 35% of the population, and they are not interested in net-zero except to sell junk to the idiots who are interested in net-zero. And except for Europe, much if the rest of the world is cooling toward the idea.
Cheer up! not all is lost.
The “Sixth Mass Extinction” was always a gigantic lie. Thus far, although mankind has caused many species extinctions, manmade climate change has caused none. Contrary to what climate industry propagandists would have you believe, not a single species is known to have gone extinct due to manmade climate change, not even the Bramble Cay mosaic-tailed rat.
Even left-leaning The Atlantic admits that we’re not in the midst of a 6th mass extinction:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170725155601/https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/06/the-ends-of-the-world/529545/
There’s no evidence that warming causes extinctions. In fact, the evidence is strong that warming is generally beneficial, which is why scientists call the warmest climate periods “climate optimums.”
That includes times which were considerably warmer than now, like the Eemian Optimum.
Global warming during the Younger Dryas termination (11,500 years ago) was at least 15× faster than the current warming trend, and warming during 25 documented Dansgaard-Oeschger (“D-O”) onsets prior to that was similarly rapid. Yet none of those rapid warming events caused mass extinctions. In fact, the vast majority of extant species survived those (completely natural) periods of rapid climate change.
Here are a few places where you can learn about the Younger Dryas and D-O cycles:
https://judithcurry.com/2017/02/17/nature-unbound-ii-the-dansgaard-oeschger-cycle/


https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/abrupt-climate-change-during-the-last-ice-24288097/
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1254961
https://archive.is/aUi9R#selection-415.0-419.271
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-11/3%20The%20Younger%20Dryas%20-FINAL%20NOV%20%281%29.pdf
The HIGHEST estimate I’ve found for recent Greenland warming is only 0.557 ±0.262 °C/decade (over 30 yrs); here’s the paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05517-z
In contrast, “The End of the Younger Dryas, about 11,500 years ago, was particularly abrupt. In Greenland, temperatures rose 10°C (18°F) in a decade (Alley 2000).”
During those optimums, the number of species increased due to the increase in habitats.
Something that lacks documentation but should be studied.
“Contrary to what climate industry propagandists would have you believe, not a single species is known to have gone extinct due to manmade climate change, not even the Bramble Cay mosaic-tailed rat.”
In fact,there is no evidence of even one instance of extreme weather that is linked to human causes, so there is no evidence of a human-caused climate change extinction.
The Younger Dryas event is too short (10 years, apparently) to be considered a “climate event”. Just a cold snap, as might be expected in a chaotic atmosphere.
And i think most stories about catastrophic floods come from those times of abrupt changes, before both searise stabilised and agriculture emerged.
Oh c’mon…we all know it’s because we’ve extincted so many already that there are so few left to extinct!
The most profound extinction recently was Liberals losing their ability to reason. No amount of empirical evidence can budge them from their self imposed ideological prisons.
“This part of the web of lies was incorrect, but the rest is still good”.
Riiiiiiiiight.
It’s been estimated that over 99% of all species that have ever lived on Earth are now extinct. This is based on the fact that life has existed for about 3.5 billion years, and during that time, many species have evolved and then become extinct.
All life presently on Earth will become extinct in the future, only to be replaced by different species.
That’s either because of nature doing its evolution thing, or god/gods moving in mysterious ways.
I love the arrogant stupidity of people who think they can control nature (or gods), when they can’t even control their own bodily functions.!!
2 lb.s of CO2 per person per day. Respiration.
At 2 pounds of CO2 per person, that is 16 billion pounds of CO2 per day. Where does all this CO2 go? Most of it goes straight into the oceans and we don’t have worry about it.
If we are going to control planetary levels of CO2, we must, absolutely must eliminate termites (forced extinction).
Termites also produce large amounts methane.
Devious bastards – are they Chinese?
So do humans.
Plus the human population is continuing to grow despite the “people are dying” call. In fact the WHO has called for Ozempic to be given to 2 billion people who are overweight. Ironic that that implies that more people are at risk from obesity than from malnutrition – yet according to the zealots, crops are struggling because of climate change.
Oh no!
Extinction is not always bad. I’m hoping that the Guinea Worm will be the next species driven into extinction by humans. Not everyone agrees.
Or the Panda. It’s a singularly useless creature.
Oh no! Not the Panda!
It will make kids at the zoo cry!
I heard they were dangerous. Everywhere it goes it eats, shoots, and leaves.
Oh no you di-ent!
This might be a problem. 99.9% of all species that have ever existed on this planet is extinct. This means that extinction is the norm. What will be the consequence of deviating from that norm?
Lots more termites?
In other words, it’s bad, but not so bad that if you impoverish yourself, you too can make a difference.
Carefully calibrated bad.
Thirty years ago I analysed Australian data and found much the same results that authors Saban and Wiens report here. A tiny number of species on small islands went, plus some small number of others lost to foxes, feral cats.
In the natural way, species go extinct and new species evolve. It was never a worry that the puny Hand of Man was going to cause catastrophe.
Geoff S