The REAL issues are obvious. Fishermen are having to travel further, stay at sea longer, and risk rougher weather to make ends meet.
There are various reasons, depleted fish stocks; illegal fishing, on an industrial scale by China, gross overfishing. Varying disputes with China/Russia/Japan preventing them using some waters nearer port.
As for the Hairtail fish specifically mentioned, they are a migratory warm water species and search out warmer water, coming inshore in summer.
“Further is figurative distance, farther is actual distance.”
Well then, if living in the US I was planning to vacation oversees to either London or Singapore but decide to do neither due the costs, is Singapore further removed or farther removed in my plans?
Or, properly, should I say both?
The English language is nothing if not pliable. A few examples: “spendthrift” and “preowned”. 😉
Consider precipitation. 1 mm/day of rain represents about 29 W/m^2 conversion of the latent heat of water vapor into internal energy, wherever it is occurring.
Here is NOAA’s recent global map of the estimated uncertainty in daily precipitation rates on a monthly basis. The color scale goes from zero to 3.6 mm/day. Globally, it looks like 1 mm/day is about average within the wide range of values. So a typical uncertainty is +/- 29 W/m^2 influence on the energy state of the atmosphere.
A climate model can do no better that what you can measure. And it can do no better than its precipitation modeling in representing the energy state of the atmosphere from the surface to space.
NONE of the pre-stabilized, time-step-iterated, large-grid, discrete-layer, parameter-tuned-to-hindcast global climate models ever had ANY diagnostic or prognostic value concerning the climate system response to incremental CO2, CH4, N2O, or any other IR-active trace gas.
This is another reason why there is no direct evidence to reliably attribute ANY of the reported warming trend to emissions of CO2. It also helps us understand why there is no good reason to have ever expected those emissions to drive the energy state of the climate system in a harmful direction.
David,
Friend Dr Bill Johnston at Bomwatch.com.au shows the use of rainfall as a reference to lower some of the variability in the usual daily temperature time series data. I’d be interested in your take on this. His work is all I can find on the topic of adjusting for step changes in a mathematical/physics way rather than just guessing as is the main present method.
Do you have any links to estimation of measurement uncertainty using guessed data? Thought not. Geoff
In general, I strongly dislike the idea of adjusting station records of measured values for any reason. Any computed time series trend which crosses known or suspected step changes at the station site inherits the additional uncertainty, which should be acknowledged. Just my opinion.
Plus the 1 mm. of rain dropped out of CLOUDS with a local albedo of .7 to .8 compared to the open sky no-clouds albedo of .1(ocean) or .25(vegetation)….so…actually much more variation in incoming SW than 29 W/m^2 calculated solely from rainfall is likely once you add in the SW reflected from the same clouds that the rain dropped out of.
Interesting that evaporation and rainfall are a surface to troposphere energy loop….while sunlight SW reflection along with a little IR emission from cloud tops represent energy leaving the planet for outer space….
0.25 is probably on the low side for vegetation because all plants have very strong reflectance in the near-IR, even for nadir measurements. Also, many plants have a waxy covering on the leaves that increases the specular reflectance, which is included for near-normal angles of incidence, but generally ignored for angles of incidence above 60 degrees where the reflectance increases rapidly.
And it can do no better than its precipitation modeling in representing the energy state of the atmosphere from the surface to space.
You are making a wild ass assumption that climate models are energy consistent. They aren’t. They do not conserve energy or matter.
Climate models can create matter and energy as they please. It is all to do with the magic CO2 molecule.
This is pme for the CMIP5 mean. All models should get very close to zero increase or decrease in net precipitation. The chart clearly shows the mean has positive net precipitation over 20 years:
Thanks for your reply. You seem to be missing the simpler point of my post: fundamentally, one cannot “model” the real system any better than you can measure its performance.
strativarius
October 26, 2025 2:53 am
Nanny state…
Yoghurts and fruit juice are ‘junk food’ claim ministers supermarket representatives anticipate extensive new regulations affecting numerous everyday groceries. … On what level when they can’t keep illegal migrants deported, wealth creators are fleeing and the economy is bleeding out does the Government think obsessing about which shelf yogurt and fruit drinks sit on should be their priority?” – GBN
It gets more harsh
Labour has told nurseries and primary schools to ban birthday cake as part of new “nanny state” health measures. The Telegraph has the story. – Daily Sceptic
No, they would be broke on day one. Flat broke as in government shuts down, no access to debt markets, no cash coming in. Look up the Barnet formula (which would cease immediately). And also look up the Scottish government deficit. And finally look up the debate about what they would use for a currency.
3 of my 4 daughters were weened on goats milk yogurt made daily from milk provided by our Nubian nanny. Current goat herd has no real milkers, and at nearly 80, I don’t really need them
Next Sunday, Daylight Wasting Saving Time ends and so begins the biannual ritual of changing all our clocks, or at least those that aren’t programmed to do it for us. Some like to add to the chore, by changing their smoke alarm batteries too. Yes, and clean the kitchen floor too, while you’re at it. Heck, clean the whole house while you’re at it. But I digest. The idea may have made sense in the beginning, but no longer does, and most people despise it. Yet, we still do it. Why? Because change is hard, especially with something long-standing, such as DST. Also, there is a divide between those wanting to just stay on DST year-round, and those wanting to switch to Standard Time year-round. The reasons for going back to ST actually make more sense, and are grounded in science, while those arguing for DST year-round have only emotional arguments. Remind you of anything?
Saskatchewan…difficult go spell, easy to draw…and one of the few places on earth where this time changing MegaBS does not exist 😉. At least one stupidity less one has to put up with.
Don’t know the source or even if it’s true that an Indian Chief said it, but it’s pretty accurate – “Only a white man can think that by cutting a foot off one end of a blanket and sewing it on the other end that you will end up with a longer blanket”, or something like that.
But . . . but . . . but my understanding is that, if we add back that extra hour of daylight we were saving under DST, it will result in extra irrigation being needed to prevent lawns from burning up.
There is no such emotional difference between Standard and DST proponents. It’s just clocks. Pick one or the other, adjust business hours if you want, done.
Nothing to do with left/right/woke/awake/climate/weather. Nothing.
it depends on your latitude. The U.K. tried keeping our clocks one hour ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (Universal Time) during the winter in the late 60’s. This meant that in the English Midlands the sun didn’t rise until after 9 am. My school day lasted from 08:45 until 15:50. I left home at 08:00 to catch the bus, and i remember it being pitch black that winter. OK it was still light when I came home. If memory serves this experiment was supposed to last three years but only lasted one. The number of road accidents were reported to have increased and this was the reason for the early termination of the experiment, not sure how true. Further north sunrise was even later, with it rising around 10 AM in Scotland (?).
We had a holiday in the Canaries one January, we watched a live football (soccer) match from Manchester where it was played under floodlights, whereas we were in brilliant sunshine (the Canaries are in the same time zone as the U.K.)
I suspect that for the southern states, daylight saving is almost meaningless and possibly for those in the middle as well. With only the states that border Canada really having any “benefit”, however this is based on my somewhat less than accurate knowledge of US geography!
People get overly excited about the ‘correct’ time compared to solar time and forget that solar time varies by an hour between the east and west boundaries of a time zone. Pick a time, and stay with it.
Here on the ranch, the critters don’t watch Micky, nor listen to what time he claims it to be. Fellow who keeps a camper on my place, and helps out with the chores needed to be reminded last spring that the evening feed time would move to 5:00 from 4 when he got a little concerned about the goats not showing up for their evening meal. Now with the days getting shorter, they are showing up closer to 4:00 with their napkins on and forks in hand, so the official time change is right on time. Personally, I could do without it.
The idea may have made sense in the beginning, but no longer does
It never made more sense than “having two different boards with working hours is sooo onerous”. But that’s not what its name says. It’s just smoke and mirrors for the sake of more smoke and mirrors.
Complete with the idiotic lying by United Nations/YouTube, as modified by me:
FOD United Nations • Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns. Human activities have been the main driver of climate change, primarily due to the burning of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas.
Germany goes all-in for Net Zero Stupid: Germany just demolished the two cooling towers of the Gundermmingen Nuclear power plant, starting the total removal from the face of the Mother Earth all of the nuclear power plants in Germany. No going back!
Hmm…since most of Germany’s nuclear plants were placed away from the (quite short) northern coastline the Merkel tsunami would have had to be of truly apolyptical dimensions. Gundremmingen f.e. could either be reached from the Northsea (just some 700km away) or overcome the Alpes (2000m height easily)….well no more further comment needed.
Idiocracy ², the sequel Hollywood didn’t have to produce…the western world did and does.
“Merkel said she was worried that a Tsunami like the one that hit Japan, would hit Germany’s nuclear power plants.” Merkel never said that Tom. That is false. But Ronald Regan did say the words in the Canadian advert that sent the Don into a spiral. But it is also true he (Regan) used targeted tariffs. Two things can be true at once it seems.
The tariffs are to offset the non-tariff trade barriers countries put up against US products.
It is so much easier to impose a tariff than to hassle about each non-tariff trade barrier countries put.
Some years ago, I tried to import Vermont cheddar cheese into. Norway.
I went to the embassy, talked to one of their representatives.
The first reaction was “ We have more than enough cheese in Norway”
I said, but the cheddar cheese tastes really good.
He said, Oh, you have to go to trade shows, demonstrate your products, May be get some orders.
Norway and many other EU countries, sell various cheeses in the US, because they buy F-35s, and Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium own more than 60% of the food super markets on the East Coast.
That is the way for the EU to sell its farm products in the US.
She never said she was concerned about tsunamis destroying German power stations. If you are saying she did, you can add it to the list of things you have misrepresented here.
“The closure of Germany’s nuclear power after the Fukushima disaster was a significant decision that marked a shift in the country’s energy policy. The German government initiated a “nuclear moratorium” immediately after the accident, suspending the operation of the seven oldest nuclear power plants for three months.”
“But Fukushima changed her mind: Three days after the disaster, a subdued Merkel announced that Germany would be suspending its recently approved extension of the operating lives of nuclear power plants following the “unimaginable catastrophe” in Japan.”
Can’t read your colouring in box. This is what she actually said. “If a highly developed country like Japan, with high safety standards and norms, cannot prevent the consequences for nuclear power of an earthquake and a tsunami, then this has consequences for the whole world”.
Nothing about Germany being at risk from tsunami’s which is what Tom’s post was about.
You need to not only learn to read but to understand what the words mean. I think Merkel knew Tsunami’s were not a threat to Germany. If you think she did, that explains a lot and I can’t help you.
“You need to not only learn to read but to understand what the words mean. I think Merkel knew Tsunami’s were not a threat to Germany. If you think she did, that explains a lot and I can’t help you.”
That’s rich from someone who uses apostrophes for plurals. SMH.
Um…30 foot seawall failed when seawall dropped 30 ft due to quake. Real problem was putting the emergency back-up power generators at ground level-which was a real good example of poor planning-but who knew? Emergency plans always forget the hidden, possibly can’t happen emergency.
The age of consent in the USA varies from 16 to 18, depending on the state. Unlike you, I haven’t been following closely, but it seems to me that to try to take the moral high-ground is difficult when what is an immoral or illegal act in one state becomes legal by stepping over the state line. It isn’t like these young women were blackmailed or coerced at the barrel of a gun. If society wants to discourage teenagers from being sexually active, so be it. However, I hardly think that you are warranted in getting all puffed up about your moral superiority.
Unbelievable. These girls were trafficked. Prostituted. Some were barely in their teens. They were tricked into thinking they were in for modelling careers. According to Pam Bondi there were upwards of 1000 of them. That you would try to justify or minimise this is beyond belief. I have no words. And I don’t give a flying f**k whether you think I am warranted to talk about this or not. We should all be holding these scumbags to account no matter which political party they belong to.
“Just wondering whythe Autopen did absolutely nothing for 4 years.”
Maybe there are dems in the file. Ever considered that? I’m good to see whoever was involved in this epic cover up and make them pay for their sins. You on the other hand don’t seem to want justice for the women here. The man who says he supports the party that supports law and order. Now that buddy is genuine hypocrisy.
Epstein’s right-hand woman says Trump had no connection to any of this scandal.
I know you are hoping against hope that Trump’s name is on some list of Epstein’s, but so far, nothing, and a principal in the criminal activity says Trump wasn’t involved in any way.
I think you are going to be disappointed when all the facts come out.
“If everything were released and ended up showing no connection to Trump, the next rallying cry would be “they were altered, release the real list.”
But that is no reason not to hold everyone involved in this sordid coverup accountable… is it? Truth is often hard to get to, particularly when rich people are involved. But that doesn’t mean we should stop trying. Don’t you want to know the sickos that abused these girls? Don’t you want the victims to get justice? I thought law and order was important to Republicans. What happened?
“Epstein’s right-hand woman says Trump had no connection to any of this scandal.” Hmmm now why do you think she might have said that? Maybe she was telling the truth, or maybe she wanted to get moved to a nicer prison.
And Trump is not the only rich powerful person potentially involved here.
He might even have RDS, given that he can’t spell his name.
Simon believes that there’s data somewhere showing that atmospheric CO2 going from 280ppm to 430ppm has caused a scientifically measurable effect on some global climate parameter.
How long you been lookin’ for it Simon ? 20 years ? Have you tried your sock drawer ?
I’ve been looking for that evidence for about 50 years, and haven’t seen one shred of evidence that demonstrates CO2 has any effect on the Earth’s weather or climate.
Climate Alarmists are now reduced to pretending climate change speculation is equivalent to established facts.
“Throughout her first six years as chancellor, Merkel had championed Germany’s nuclear industry, dismissing objections as “absurd.” According to Merkel’s allies, she was jolted out of that view by the wreck of the nuclear-power plant in Fukushima prefecture in Japan.”
So you see, there is a connection between Merkel and the Japanese Tsunami and nuclear power plants.
“The Foundation hasn’t explained what was supposedly misrepresented. Yes, the ad rearranged some of Reagan’s lines—but his overall anti-tariff message came through unchanged. In the original address, Reagan defended semiconductor duties as a narrow “special case” while warning that broader protectionism would trigger the very trade wars Trump now openly embraces.”
Reagan is a free market fellow, so he doesn’t like tariffs per se, but his speech was actually giving his reasons for imposing “duties”/tariffs because it was a “special case”. So in special cases, Reagan is ok imposing tariffs, as his speech conveyed.
Trump just sees a lot more “special cases” today than faced Reagan way back when. Every country in the world practically, is cheating the U.S. out of money, and Trump is imposing tariffs to equal all this out. Other nations impose tariffs on us, so we will impose the same on them.
I think if Reagan were president today, he would be imposing tariffs just like Trump is doing in “special cases”.
““Throughout her first six years as chancellor, Merkel had championed Germany’s nuclear industry, dismissing objections as “absurd.” According to Merkel’s allies, she was jolted out of that view by the wreck of the nuclear-power plant in Fukushima prefecture in Japan.”” That makes sense as in probably true.
“So you see, there is a connection between Merkel and the Japanese Tsunami and nuclear power plants.” YESSSSS!!!! but not what you said Tom. Here are your words… “Merkel said she was worried that a Tsunami like the one that hit Japan, would hit Germany’s nuclear power plants.“ That is just plain wrong Tom and you were telling a Trump Truth (lie)there.
“Reagan is a free market fellow, so he doesn’t like tariffs per se, but his speech was actually giving his reasons for imposing “duties”/tariffs because it was a “special case”. So in special cases, Reagan is ok imposing tariffs, as his speech conveyed.” True. He was ok imposing targeted tariffs. But I said that. And there is no way Reagan would have supported what Trump is doing. He liked free trade and said so many times.
“Trump just sees a lot more “special cases” today than faced Reagan way back when. Every country in the world practically, is cheating the U.S. out of money, and Trump is imposing tariffs to equal all this out. Other nations impose tariffs on us, so we will impose the same on them.” It is not true Tom that “Every country in the world practically, is cheating the U.S. out of money,” Many countries don’t impose tariffs on the US and still got hammered. And many countries had a trade deficit with the US and still got hammered.
And it is a bit precious of Trump to get upset about a Canadian state pushing the boundaries of truth, when he does it daily.
I’ll admit that Merkel is not on record saying a Tsunami could hit Germany, but they were wringing their hands over the natural disasters that took place in Japan, a Tsunami and an earthquake. So they thought one or the other could have an effect on a German reactor and decided to shut down their nuclear program based on that.
” And there is no way Reagan would have supported what Trump is doing. He liked free trade and said so many times.”
You don’t know that. That;’s pure speculation. Trump would like free, fair trade today, too, but that is not a reality in this world. There is no free trade. If everyone dropped all their tariffs and other restriction on trade, then that would be free trade, but we don’t have that today. Not even close.
The circumstances today are VERY different from the circumstances during Reagan’s terms in office. I think Reagan would be doing exactly what Trump is doing if he were faced with the same situation.
Both Reagan and Trump are all about protecting the United States. One of the first things both Reagan and Trump did was rebuild the U.S. military. This was required because both were following Democrat presidents who neglected the U.S. military. All Democrat presidents neglect the U.S. Military. Reagan’s goal was a 600-ship Navy.
I think Reagan would applaud Trump bringing in 15 TRILLION dollars in investments into the United States. An unprecedented number. That would not have happened without tariffs (and AI, and a sane energy policy). The New York Stock Exchange hit a new all-time high yesterday, as did the Japanese stock market. You can expect a lot more of that in the future with those kinds of investments coming in.
You can whine about it, but it’s a done deal. Trump is stimulating the American economy and bringing back essential services to the United States like requiring medicines to be manufactured in the United States, along with numerous other vital, and national security items that the U.S. does not produce itself, but will be producing by the time Trump leaves office. I think Reagan would be all for something like that.
Well we will have to agree to disagree. I think Reagan would have little time for Trump given Reagan was a man of principles and had a respect for those who adhere to morals. He certainly would not be approving the last two confessed criminals (Santos and Binance founder Changpeng Zhao) Trump has let go. Both admitted their guilt in court. It is just mind blowing the level of corruption he is now publicly supporting. He is sending a loud a clear message… support me and I will interfere in the legal system and get you off. Reagan would be turning in his grave.
That’s true. The problem is the voters believe things about the people they elect that are not true, thanks to the Leftwing Media.
The Media tells the voters people like Merkel should be elected and the voters dutifully do the Media’s bidding.
That’s why lying Leftwing Media are so dangerous. People cannot govern themselves properly (elect the right people) when all the information they get from the Media is filled with lies and distortions.
By and large, the media are only reporting what the lying politicians tell them. Any voter who believes any lying campaigner is a fool. Democracy is a highly variable thing. At best it is a reflection of all thats good in society and at worst a reflection of all that’s bad. The personal integrity with which a voter casts their vote matters hugely.
It pains me to wish Germany intense pain and misery but I am turning into an accelerationist. No amount of reasoning is capable of halting Germany’s deindustrialization and the dimming of its lights, and as Germany goes, so goes the rest of Europe (including the UK). It needs to happen soon so the rest of us stop before we do too much of our own damage. If Germany wants to be the pioneer, crack on, and crack on fast.
I’ve said it before and I insist it is true: once you deindustrialize, it is NEVER coming back.
Deutschstan and Anglostan will reindustrialise just as soon as they finish replacing the population, quelgeek.
Charles Armand
October 26, 2025 5:21 am
Hello everyone,
I apologize for any language errors in this message: I’m French, and far from having sufficient command of English to conduct a satisfactory discussion with you. So, I use So I use a machine translator.
I’ve been following this blog for some time now. After experiencing the first waves of “climate panic” to which my generation is subjected (I’m in my early twenties), I decided to diversify my sources of information a little to see what was happening outside the mainstream media.
So I happily discovered the Wattsupwithtat blog, and, a little later, the Climate Discussion Nexus, hosted by John Robson. I also watched some of Joe Rogan’s podcasts (with French subtitles, which aren’t ideal for capturing all the linguistic subtleties, but they allow me to grasp the gist.)
I realized that CO2 levels and temperature changes were not correlated in geological history. I’ve also heard that CO2 has been higher during colder periods than the current one. I’d really like to verify this information. If anyone has a reliable source to support this, I’d be very grateful if they could share it with me.
Thank you all. And I hope you have a wonderful day/evening/night, depending on where you are in the world.
“…CO2 levels and temperature changes were not correlated in geological history. I’ve also heard that CO2 has been higher during colder periods than the current one. I’d really like to verify this information. If anyone has a reliable source to support this, I’d be very grateful if they could share it with me….” There are various sources available on the net and on this forum if you go back. They are in graph form. When you go back in history they usually all match. Not so much in the 20th century when bad actors started fudging the numbers to support their claims.
Unfortunately, I don’t know if either of these is available in French text.
And by all means, check out the various resources listed on this webpage’s right-side column under the heading Bookmarks . . . having been vetted by Anthony Watts and WUWT editors, I trust them all to be reliable sources of information, particularly as they discuss atmospheric CO2 variations vis-à-vis Earth’s lower atmosphere temperature variations at global scale.
Thank you all very much for your welcome and for these valuable links.
I know Andy May’s name—I watched one of his interviews on Tom Nelson’s show. It was excellent.
I will obtain these documents and will manage to translate them, even if it means copying paragraphs into ChatGPT (which is very politically biased, but is reliable, in my experience, when asked to limit itself to translating a text, without necessarily offering a biased critique.)
Steven Koonin’s book “Unsettled” has been translated into French, as has Michael Shellenberger’s Apocalypse Never. These are valuable resources, obviously criticized by the left-wing press.
A law is/was under discussion in France aimed at criminalizing climate skepticism, and an organization called “Quotaclimat” is now responsible for “censoring environmental disinformation.”
We’re not getting fined for climate skepticism yet. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
The situation is worrying, to say the least, isn’t it?
And likewise thank you for seeking truth . . . it’s a precious trait these days.
Yes, the developing trends calling for censorship of those disputing climate change™ that are happening around the world—even in the USA with its key First Amendment to the US Constitution offering protection of free speech—is very, very worrisome.
In terms of descriptions of The Scientific Method, nowhere to be found are the terms “censorship” or “consensus”.
Thank you all very much for your welcome and for these valuable links.
I know Andy May’s name—I watched one of his interviews on Tom Nelson’s show. It was excellent.
I will obtain these documents and will manage to translate them, even if it means copying paragraphs into ChatGPT (which is very politically biased, but is reliable, in my experience, when asked to limit itself to translating a text, without necessarily offering a biased critique.)
Steven Koonin’s book “Unsettled” has been translated into French, as has Michael Shellenberger’s Apocalypse Never. These are valuable resources, obviously criticized by the left-wing press.
A law is/was under discussion in France aimed at criminalizing climate skepticism, and an organization called “Quotaclimat” is now responsible for “censoring environmental disinformation.”
We’re not getting fined for climate skepticism yet. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
The situation is worrying, to say the least, isn’t it?
One of the best paleotemperature resources is a chart produced by Bill Illis, 750 million years of temperature, plotted against CO2 concentration (in the form of ‘what the temperature would have been if the sensitivity to CO2 was three Celsius degrees per doubling’). At one time, there was a direct link here under “Reference”, but the links have gone dead. The chart itself can be found by using a search engine.
I would put in a link here, but I’m very old, and not tech-savvy. Maybe a mod or one of the young bucks here can find the chart and post some link.
The key to Bill’s chart is this: temperature and CO2 concentration are negatively correlated. I’ve run several different cross-correlation routines on the data, and always get a coefficient of -0.29 to -0.37 (differences due to alternate algorithms, window padding, window tapers, and any added white noise).
I would particularly point out the Hirnantian, the last Epoch of the Ordovician Period. From multiple sources (see below), the estimated CO2 concentration was about ten times today’s concentration, yet the Earth was in the midst of a 3 – 4 million year ice age. The Cryogenian Period is an even better example, with CO2 concentration measured in percents, yet the Earth was in the state commonly referred to as “Snowball Earth”. Only the equatorial regions were ice-free.
Geological Time Scale 2020 (Gradstein, Ogg, Schmitz, Ogg; Elsevier) may not be available in French, but it, and all of the various GTS editions, are phenomenal sources of geochemical information.
Veizer produced an amazing Phanerozoic temperature against CO2 chart. While different sourcing and methods, the result is generally the same: there is no correlation between temperature and the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere.
Scotese produces a chart, which, as far as it goes, is good, but is too stylized for my tastes. If one based their paleotemperature data on Scotese, one would think the Earth had but two temperature regimes: warm, and ‘not-warm’. The Illis chart and Veizer chart show stronger variation than Scotese.
The only French I know (and will probably spell it wrong) is from The Longest Day, where the U.K. commandos are wishing their French allies well, just before the invasion: Bon chance. Keep seeking information; keep coming back here; explore some of the other sites Anthony links to: they all have good, reliable information.
Frankly, I doubt it! It’s more likely the work of a very well-prepared team of burglars. I understand they dropped Empress Josephine’s crown on the way. Well-prepared criminals, then, but subject to a certain nervousness! In any case, in France, I’d say we have other problems than this jewel theft. Deindustrialization is one of our biggest concerns.
” In any case, in France, I’d say we have other problems than this jewel theft.”
Indeed . . . France’s national debt-to-GDP ratio is approximately 116%, a figure that has risen significantly in recent years. This figure is nearly double the European Union’s recommended limit of 60%.
Looks like France is following the lead of the USA, with its current Federal debt-to-GDP ratio now at about 121%. YIKES!
I guess I need to spell it out to you because you are not willing to research it yourself. Pity.
US Federal debt is “held” (i.e., payable to) individuals and nations that have purchased securities issued by the US government, such as Treasure Bonds, Treasury Bills, Treasury Notes, Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS), Treasury Floating Rate Notes (FRNs), US Savings Bonds, and mortgage-backed securities issued via Government-sponsored entities such as Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (whew!). All such are said to be “backed by the full faith and credit of the United States”, resulting in why they are so ubiquitous in world financial markets. The current such outstanding debt obligations total to over $38 TRILLION.
About 24% of US federal debt is held by foreign entities while the remaining 76% is held by US citizens and businesses/institutions.
If you want a further definition of “who”, Web search engines and AI bots can be your friends in identifying amounts held by various specific “payees”, both domestic and international.
I see you used an exclamation mark in your comment. Why is that statement surprising to you, or do you not understand that there is no real difference between being indebted to an individual, a business/institution, or a nation state?
P.S. There is a distinct difference between the USA as a nation, and an individual citizen of the USA . . . but it looks like you also overlooked that simple fact.
Tell all your friends to come and visit this site, and that they should install a translation app. At this site they can obtain info for the elimination of the carbon tax. They will also learn that CO2 does not cause global warming.
I’m going to talk about it around me! Unfortunately, anathema is never far away. There are people I know that nothing will be able to make them even reconsider their point of view. Most of the time, they are far-left people, seduced by the principle of degrowth. I don’t really see what could be so exciting about a return to the 18th century, but oh well. There are worse colors than green to repaint one’s Marxism. Chromatically speaking, red and green are complementary…
Be nice, Will, I’ve met some very nice Frenchies over here in the States, been drunk with a few, and sung the “Marseillaise” with a couple on a seriously snow stormy nite in Illinois next to a fireplace in a 1880’s hotel.
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In that spirit I link to “Equilibrium Lapse Rate I,” which together with a successor post describes a logical flaw in Robert Brown’s “A Refutation of Stable Equilibrium Lapse Rates.” I hasten to add that it’s something this site has declined to run as a head post and that the point it makes is highly academic. Still, if you’re interested in a little critical thinking. . . .
Thanks a lot. Unfortunately, I’m not a theoretical-mechanics ace, so although it seems to say what you contend it does I’ll need to pray and fast over it a bit before I’m sure.
You might not be an ace, but you’re in good company. Boltzmann, Loschmidt, Maxwell argued back and forth. Feynman even took up the “no gradient” argument in more modern times. It continues to be a point of discussion in physics grad lounges today. There are papers on both sides saying their calculation are irrefutably correct.
Thanks again. Unfortunately, I still haven’t had an opportunity to slog through all the equations, and I may not for awhile.
For now I’ll just mention that when the issue came up initially I did go through all the math in Velasco et al. and if I remember correctly I found their math compelling except for a minor notational infelicity or two. However, I disagreed with their view that it would be false to say of a finite gas that “Temperature is proportional to the average molecular kinetic energy.”
That is, they recognized their math’s conclusion that the average molecular kinetic energy does decrease (by an immeasurably small amount) with height, but unlike me they didn’t look upon that decrease as meaning that the temperature is height dependent. Perhaps, though, this is merely a question of definition.
EUROPE AIMS TO WEAKEN THE US WITH EXPENSIVE OFFSHORE WINDMILLS THAT PRODUCE EXPENSIVE, LOW-QUALITY ELECTRICITY https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/europe-attempts-to-entangle-us-with-expensive-offshore-windmills
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Net zero by 2050 Euro elites tried to weaken the US, with help of the unpatriotic, leftist Biden clique, into going down the black hole of 30,000 MW by 2030 of expensive, highly-subsidized, weather-dependent, grid-disturbing offshore windmill systems, which would need expensive, highly subsidized, short-lived, battery systems for grid support.
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Offshore wind full cost of electricity FCOE = 30 c/kWh + 11 c/kWh = 41 c/kWh, no subsidies
Offshore wind full cost of electricity FCOE = 15 c/kWh + 11 c/kWh = 26 c/kWh, 50% subsidies
The 11 c/kWh is for various measures required by wind and solar. Power plant to landfill cost basis.
This compares with 7 c/kWh + 3 c/kWh = 10 c/kWh from existing gas, coal, nuclear, large reservoir hydro plants.
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Such expensive W/S electricity would have made the US even less competitive in world markets.
Any US tariffs on the European supply of wind systems would greatly increase their turnkey capital costs/MW and their electricity costs/ kWh.
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Almost the entire supply of the wind projects would be:
1) designed and made in Europe,
2) then transported across the Atlantic Ocean by European specialized ships,
3) then unloaded at new, taxpayer-financed, $500-million storage/pre-assembly/staging/barge-loading areas,
4) then barged to European specialized erection ships for erection of the windmill systems.
5) The financing would be mostly by European pension funds, that pay benefits to European retirees.
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Hundreds of people in each seashore state would have jobs during the erection phase
The other erection jobs would be by specialized European people, mostly on cranes and ships
Hundreds of people in each seashore state would have long-term O&M jobs, using mostly European spare parts, during the 20-y electricity production phase.
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Conglomerates owned by Euro elites would finance, build, erect, own and operate almost all of the 30,000 MW of offshore windmills, providing work for many thousands of European workers for decades, and multi-$billion profits each year.
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That Euro offshore wind ruse did not work out, because Trump was elected.
Trump-hating, Euro elites are furious. Projects are being cancelled. The European windmill industry is in shambles, with multi-$billion annual losses, lay-offs and tens of $billions of stranded costs.
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Trump spared the US from the W/S evils inflicted by the leftist, woke Democrat cabal, that used an autopen for Biden signatures, and bypassed on-the-beach/in-the-basement Biden, an increasingly dysfunctional Marionette.
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Trump declared a National Energy Emergency, and put W/S/B systems at the bottom of the list, and suspended their licenses to put their rushed, glossy environmental impact statements, EIS, under proper scrutiny.
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Euro elites used the IPCC-invented, “CO2-is-evil” hoax, based on its own “science”.
These elites used:
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1) the foghorn of government-subsidized Corporate Media to propagate scare-mongering slogans and brainwash the people,
2) censorship to suppress free thinking on town hall forums,
3) election interference, as in Moldova and Georgia,
4) ostracizing /marginalizing major political parties to produce desired outcomes, as in Germany.
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Wall Street elites saw an opportunity for tax shelters for its elite clients.
Woke politicians/bureaucrats were “cut-in” on $juicy deals to pass subsidies, favorable rules and regulations, and impose government mandates.
Euro elites wanted the US to deliver electricity to users at very high c/kWh, to preserve Europe’s extremely advantageous trade balance with the US. https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/international-trade-is-a-dog-eat-dog-business
“That Euro offshore wind ruse did not work out, because Trump was elected.
Trump-hating, Euro elites are furious. Projects are being cancelled. The European windmill industry is in shambles, with multi-$billion annual losses, lay-offs and tens of $billions of stranded costs.”
That’s too bad they are furious. They need to calm down because the situation is not going to get better, it is going to get worse. Windmills and industrial solar cannot power a viable society. It should be obvious to all by now, but unfortunately, the politicians who are promoting the Net Zero insanity are too committed to it to admit they are wrong and are on the wrong course.
THE IMPOVERISHED, DYSFUNCTIONAL STATE OF MAINE https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-dysfunctional-state-of-maine
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The over-taxed, over-regulated, already-impoverished Maine people are super-screwed, trying to make ends meet in a near-zero, real growth Maine economy
The Maine economy has lots of low-tech/low-pay/low-benefit, bs jobs
The Maine economy has lots of woke, leftist bureaucrats
Screwed-over Mainers also have to pay for poverty-stricken, aliens of different cultures from all over, who illegally enter the US, a federal felony
. Those unvetted, illegal, often voting aliens, from all-over, are:
– the dregs of Third World countries, sent to Maine by their US-hating, leftist, woke governments, in cahoots with Soros/Biden-financed NGOs
– getting free housing, free food, a never-empty credit card, free phones, free healthcare, free education/job training and whatever other goodies they want.
. They mainly suck from the government tit:
– have no skills, no training, no education, no modern industrial experience.
– will take low-tech/low-pay/low-benefit jobs at 30% less than screwed-over Mainers.
– are often good at crime, murder, rape, drug and human trafficking, and driving vehicles into native merrymakers.
– the tens of millions of incompatible, subversive, walk-ins would rather undermine, instead of fight for traditional European and US values and culture.
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Many millions of illegal aliens have to be shipped back where they came from, before they forever ruin the US, as they ruined Europe, France ,the UK, Ireland, Spain, etc.
. Visual Ugliness of wind and Solar: Down-trodden Mainers often have to put up with the visual ugliness and noise of hundreds of windmills, that are often idle, because of too little wind year-round, and many thousands of acres of solar panels, that are often covered with snow and ice in winter; there is no solar at night.
. Girls Competing with Boys on Girls Teams: Down-trodden Maine families also have to endure the insults of government-imposed mandates of having their girls compete with “boys” on girls’ teams, and “sharing” girl bathrooms and locker rooms, and “losing” their matches to the “boys”, all as mandated by woke Governor Mills, surrounded by her cabal of idiots and her ingrown clique of bureaucrats sucking from the government tit.
. Experience of Denmark with Palestinians The first generation (1992 arrivals):
Total accepted: 321 Palestinians
Still in Denmark by 2019: 270 people; about 84% remained.
Convicted of crimes: 204 people (63.6%).
Prison sentences: 71 people (22.1%).
Welfare dependency:
In 2003, 238 of 321 (74%) received some form of benefit.
In 2019, 176 full-time equivalents were on welfare.
Of these, 122 were on disability pensions; meaning roughly two-thirds of working-age people were on permanent pension payments. The second generation (their children):
Total children: 999 born or raised in Denmark
Each couple has many children, because each child gets a monthly government check until 18.
Convicted of crimes: 337 (33.7%).
Prison sentences: 65 (6.5%).
This means the crime rate dropped between generations; from 63% down to 34%; but remained far higher than the Danish national average.
93-95% of Palestinians are Muslim, who do not marry Danish women.
In 2019, the Danish Justice Minister stated: “These asylum seekers should not have been let in”.
Norway, Sweden, etc., had similar experiences.
. Denmark: 72% of gang-crime convicts have non-Western background, i.e. 15% of the Danish population has 5 times the crime rate. https://willempost.substack.com/p/denmark-72-of-gang-crime-convicts?r=1n3sit&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Michael S. Kelly
October 26, 2025 1:40 pm
Does anyone recall an article here from 2024 requesting mass participation in a data gathering exercise for the Great American Solar Eclipse? The idea was to have a lot of people download a smartphone app which would use the phone’s barometer and camera to record barometric pressure, temperature and ambient sunlight intensity during the event, and transmit the data (along with the phone’s GPS location) to a central server. The author was then going to do a lot of data analysis to find out what the effects of the eclipse were on the atmosphere. I thought it was a great idea, and participated. But I never heard anything about it after that. Does anyone know what, if anything, became of the project?
Hmmmm, since apparently there was no followup reporting to that request, I’m just wondering what other “things” might have been downloaded with that app?
Or perhaps the “requester” just wanted a quick means to collect many valid phone numbers and/or email addresses?
It’s very likely that there indeed was data gathering, just not the parameters you listed.
Open thread.
I’d noticed the same scream showing up in multiple TV shows and movies. (An elf in The Two Towers falling off the wall.) I can’t replicate it in type but I’ve heard it many times, usually when someone is falling off of something. I found it’s stock sound, I think called “The Wilden Scream” from a 1950’s movie.
Something else I’ve noticed is a lightening bolt that looks like a small case “Y” on it’s side. It might date back to Frankenstein? I’ve noticed it since in an episode or two of “Murder She Wrote”, plus other movies and shows.
Does anybody know if it really is “stock footage” or what it is called?
(Hey, it’s lightening. That’s somewhat Climate related.) 😎
I’ve noticed the same thing, regarding the scream. They have thousands of people making these films, and not one of them can do a scream?
iflyjetzzz
October 27, 2025 5:11 am
I’ve casually been trying to find a long term average temperature for the earth. Preferably in terms of billions of years. I’m curious to see where we’re really at in terms of ultra long term averages.
Geologic Time Scale 2020; Elsevier Publishing; edited by Gradstein, Ogg, Schmitz, and Ogg. The only reliable paleotemperature data go back to about 3.2 billion years.
Short version: with numerous excursions, both directions, the Earth has been cooling since our first inkling of how warm the late Archean was. Also, understand that the farther back we look, the less data we have, so inference is a big part of understanding how the surface temperature has varied over time.
Why? Global average temperature is utterly meaningless.
Charles Armand
October 28, 2025 7:13 am
I found, following the recommendations of Mark Hladik (whom I thank again in passing), and my reading of the summary of the debate between William Happer and David Karoly, written by Andy May, the confirmation of what I had read previously: the Ordovician was therefore significantly more loaded with CO2 than our time (about 10 times more, according to estimates, and maintaining the caution that is appropriate when it comes to reading reconstructions paleoclimatic studies covering periods so distant from us), and yet there was a very cold period just after, with very high CO2 levels. I hope I’m not mistaken. Now, an argument “in support” of CO2, would be that there was a solar minimum at the time (I believed that this kind of thing could only be deduced from a direct observation of our star), and that the several thousand parts per million of CO2 present in the atmosphere at that time would have in some way “compensated” for the lack of solar activity. However, I understand that we are currently experiencing a solar minimum. How is it, then, that with almost 10 times less CO2 in our atmosphere, and not noting any strong solar activity, we are not freezing in place, if CO2 is the famous “control button?”
(I posted this on JoNova already, so apologies to fellow cross pollinators.)
Another ridiculous BBC climate change story, climate change killing South Korean fishermen?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg924nrgd3o.amp
The REAL issues are obvious. Fishermen are having to travel further, stay at sea longer, and risk rougher weather to make ends meet.
There are various reasons, depleted fish stocks; illegal fishing, on an industrial scale by China, gross overfishing. Varying disputes with China/Russia/Japan preventing them using some waters nearer port.
As for the Hairtail fish specifically mentioned, they are a migratory warm water species and search out warmer water, coming inshore in summer.
“The REAL issues are obvious. Fishermen are having to travel further”
Farther. Further is figurative distance, farther is actual distance.
Every forum needs someone to spot typhus, well done.
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I call them typoes and laugh when they correct me.
Was it a typo? Or just mis-use?
Well then, if living in the US I was planning to vacation oversees to either London or Singapore but decide to do neither due the costs, is Singapore further removed or farther removed in my plans?
Or, properly, should I say both?
The English language is nothing if not pliable. A few examples: “spendthrift” and “preowned”. 😉
That would be further, since distance isn’t involved. Although, it’s an awkward sentence in the first place.
“The English language is nothing if not pliable. A few examples: “spendthrift” and “preowned”.”
Just because people make shit up, doesn’t make it right. Case in point: Common abuse of the words “optics” and “calculus”.
I love the fact that the English language has accepted the name “twister” to be synonymous with the name “tornado”.
I don’t believe modern day weathermen, news personnel, police and other first responders are “making that up”.
But I could be wrong . . . even further wrong. 😉
Well it does twist.
Using the word “optics” to mean how something looks, instead of something you look through, is just wrong.
Invites the question: Are the “optics” in a telescope not used if the image is captured on a photographic plate or imaging CCD semiconductor array?
Be careful out there.
Consider precipitation. 1 mm/day of rain represents about 29 W/m^2 conversion of the latent heat of water vapor into internal energy, wherever it is occurring.
Here is NOAA’s recent global map of the estimated uncertainty in daily precipitation rates on a monthly basis. The color scale goes from zero to 3.6 mm/day. Globally, it looks like 1 mm/day is about average within the wide range of values. So a typical uncertainty is +/- 29 W/m^2 influence on the energy state of the atmosphere.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cet25r7GjGZMHNMSPHTlxEhXObSK3UMQ/view?usp=sharing
A climate model can do no better that what you can measure. And it can do no better than its precipitation modeling in representing the energy state of the atmosphere from the surface to space.
NONE of the pre-stabilized, time-step-iterated, large-grid, discrete-layer, parameter-tuned-to-hindcast global climate models ever had ANY diagnostic or prognostic value concerning the climate system response to incremental CO2, CH4, N2O, or any other IR-active trace gas.
This is another reason why there is no direct evidence to reliably attribute ANY of the reported warming trend to emissions of CO2. It also helps us understand why there is no good reason to have ever expected those emissions to drive the energy state of the climate system in a harmful direction.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
David,
Friend Dr Bill Johnston at Bomwatch.com.au shows the use of rainfall as a reference to lower some of the variability in the usual daily temperature time series data. I’d be interested in your take on this. His work is all I can find on the topic of adjusting for step changes in a mathematical/physics way rather than just guessing as is the main present method.
Do you have any links to estimation of measurement uncertainty using guessed data? Thought not. Geoff
Thanks for your reply, Geoff.
About Johnston’s material here – I find it very interesting. It seems valid as an approach to investigate the record of a single site when changes have occurred. https://www.bomwatch.com.au/data-homogenisation/methods-case-study-parafield-south-australia-2/
In general, I strongly dislike the idea of adjusting station records of measured values for any reason. Any computed time series trend which crosses known or suspected step changes at the station site inherits the additional uncertainty, which should be acknowledged. Just my opinion.
Plus the 1 mm. of rain dropped out of CLOUDS with a local albedo of .7 to .8 compared to the open sky no-clouds albedo of .1(ocean) or .25(vegetation)….so…actually much more variation in incoming SW than 29 W/m^2 calculated solely from rainfall is likely once you add in the SW reflected from the same clouds that the rain dropped out of.
Interesting that evaporation and rainfall are a surface to troposphere energy loop….while sunlight SW reflection along with a little IR emission from cloud tops represent energy leaving the planet for outer space….
0.25 is probably on the low side for vegetation because all plants have very strong reflectance in the near-IR, even for nadir measurements. Also, many plants have a waxy covering on the leaves that increases the specular reflectance, which is included for near-normal angles of incidence, but generally ignored for angles of incidence above 60 degrees where the reflectance increases rapidly.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/12/why-albedo-is-the-wrong-measure-of-reflectivity-for-modeling-climate/
You are making a wild ass assumption that climate models are energy consistent. They aren’t. They do not conserve energy or matter.
Climate models can create matter and energy as they please. It is all to do with the magic CO2 molecule.
This is pme for the CMIP5 mean. All models should get very close to zero increase or decrease in net precipitation. The chart clearly shows the mean has positive net precipitation over 20 years:
Thanks for your reply. You seem to be missing the simpler point of my post: fundamentally, one cannot “model” the real system any better than you can measure its performance.
Nanny state…
Yoghurts and fruit juice are ‘junk food’ claim ministers
supermarket representatives anticipate extensive new regulations affecting numerous everyday groceries.
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On what level when they can’t keep illegal migrants deported, wealth creators are fleeing and the economy is bleeding out does the Government think obsessing about which shelf yogurt and fruit drinks sit on should be their priority?” – GBN
It gets more harsh
Labour has told nurseries and primary schools to ban birthday cake as part of new “nanny state” health measures. The Telegraph has the story. – Daily Sceptic
Fun is an outmoded concept.
If Scotland split from the UK, would the Scots be better off compared to the beleaguered people in Britain?
No… they have problems all their own
The 5 best places for Deep-fried Mars bar in Glasgow, United Kingdom
https://tripper.guide/the-best-deep-fried-mars-bar-in/glasgow/united_kingdom
No, they would be broke on day one. Flat broke as in government shuts down, no access to debt markets, no cash coming in. Look up the Barnet formula (which would cease immediately). And also look up the Scottish government deficit. And finally look up the debate about what they would use for a currency.
If Scotland split from the UK, would the Scots then have complete control over the North Sea oil and gas?
Would they shut down the migrant invasion?
I say this as a Scot. They would turn it into an unliveable hell-hole so fast your ear would pop. The Scottish appetite for “progress” is horrifying.
I suppose that Scotland would still remain on the island of Britain, Harold. Our did you have a literal split in mind?
I don’t buy yoghurt, I make it myself, at least 1 kg per week.
3 of my 4 daughters were weened on goats milk yogurt made daily from milk provided by our Nubian nanny. Current goat herd has no real milkers, and at nearly 80, I don’t really need them
There’s a simple term for this: anarcho-tyranny.
Next Sunday, Daylight
WastingSaving Time ends and so begins the biannual ritual of changing all our clocks, or at least those that aren’t programmed to do it for us. Some like to add to the chore, by changing their smoke alarm batteries too. Yes, and clean the kitchen floor too, while you’re at it. Heck, clean the whole house while you’re at it. But I digest. The idea may have made sense in the beginning, but no longer does, and most people despise it. Yet, we still do it. Why? Because change is hard, especially with something long-standing, such as DST. Also, there is a divide between those wanting to just stay on DST year-round, and those wanting to switch to Standard Time year-round. The reasons for going back to ST actually make more sense, and are grounded in science, while those arguing for DST year-round have only emotional arguments. Remind you of anything?Saskatchewan…difficult go spell, easy to draw…and one of the few places on earth where this time changing MegaBS does not exist 😉. At least one stupidity less one has to put up with.
Don’t know the source or even if it’s true that an Indian Chief said it, but it’s pretty accurate – “Only a white man can think that by cutting a foot off one end of a blanket and sewing it on the other end that you will end up with a longer blanket”, or something like that.
“But I digest.”
Hmmm.
I think Bruce did that on purpose. 🙂
Maybe he was ruminating on what to say next
Sudge bad puns-WTH is this-Sunday?
We can chew the cud about that for a long time.
I believe it may have been on porpoise.
Maybe, but his comment was about DST, not about eating anything, so I guess I don’t get the joke.
But . . . but . . . but my understanding is that, if we add back that extra hour of daylight we were saving under DST, it will result in extra irrigation being needed to prevent lawns from burning up.
Or so I’ve been told.
Its terribly sad how many times I’ve read published accounts that explicitly claim the day is longer under DST.
The morning, before work, is shorter.. The afternoon, after work, is longer…
Really great when you live within striking distance of the beach. 🙂
There is no such emotional difference between Standard and DST proponents. It’s just clocks. Pick one or the other, adjust business hours if you want, done.
Nothing to do with left/right/woke/awake/climate/weather. Nothing.
The arguments in favor of standard time are in fact rational, and based on science. Those for DST, not so much.
it depends on your latitude. The U.K. tried keeping our clocks one hour ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (Universal Time) during the winter in the late 60’s. This meant that in the English Midlands the sun didn’t rise until after 9 am. My school day lasted from 08:45 until 15:50. I left home at 08:00 to catch the bus, and i remember it being pitch black that winter. OK it was still light when I came home. If memory serves this experiment was supposed to last three years but only lasted one. The number of road accidents were reported to have increased and this was the reason for the early termination of the experiment, not sure how true. Further north sunrise was even later, with it rising around 10 AM in Scotland (?).
We had a holiday in the Canaries one January, we watched a live football (soccer) match from Manchester where it was played under floodlights, whereas we were in brilliant sunshine (the Canaries are in the same time zone as the U.K.)
I suspect that for the southern states, daylight saving is almost meaningless and possibly for those in the middle as well. With only the states that border Canada really having any “benefit”, however this is based on my somewhat less than accurate knowledge of US geography!
It also depends on where you are in your time zone (east side vs. west side). You can’t please everybody.
People get overly excited about the ‘correct’ time compared to solar time and forget that solar time varies by an hour between the east and west boundaries of a time zone. Pick a time, and stay with it.
Yes I recall that experiment, the effect in the north was quite dramatic and resulted in protests that led to the rapid end of it.
They’re just clocks!
Here on the ranch, the critters don’t watch Micky, nor listen to what time he claims it to be. Fellow who keeps a camper on my place, and helps out with the chores needed to be reminded last spring that the evening feed time would move to 5:00 from 4 when he got a little concerned about the goats not showing up for their evening meal. Now with the days getting shorter, they are showing up closer to 4:00 with their napkins on and forks in hand, so the official time change is right on time. Personally, I could do without it.
Yeah-the dogs and outside cats run by the sun, not the clock…and they are getting a mite pissy waiting for my clock to feed and romp’em.
It never made more sense than “having two different boards with working hours is sooo onerous”. But that’s not what its name says. It’s just smoke and mirrors for the sake of more smoke and mirrors.
When I was teaching at high school, used to really like daylight saving in summer.
End school 3:30, and have heaps of time until sunset to go down the beach or a long walk or motorbike ride… or whatever. 🙂
The same result could be realized by just changing start time for school.
Down under, NSW does daylight saving…. Queensland doesn’t.
Fun for people living in border towns 😉
Time is relative 😉
Fun for people living in border towns
There are some cities in the US that are split – DS in one part, ST in the other.
Lunchtime doubly so.
Split the difference! What does it matter if solar noon is off by a half-hour?
Transcript of Lindzen and Happer on Rogan
https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/10/23/transcript-richard-lindzen-william-happer-on-joe-rogan-podcast-2397/
long but fun and a large audience
…… and the video itself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt32chvO_iY
Complete with the idiotic lying by United Nations/YouTube, as modified by me:
FOD
United Nations • Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns. Human activities have been the main driver of climate change, primarily due to the burning of fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas.The Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station, recorded an unbelievable minus 61.3 degrees Celsius on 15 Oct 2025 in ‘Spring’. EVERY media outlet, is of course, reporting this – ughh they are not – oops got that wrong! (Mainstreampresse ignoriert: Antarktis meldet kältesten Oktober seit 44 Jahren)
Germany goes all-in for Net Zero Stupid: Germany just demolished the two cooling towers of the Gundermmingen Nuclear power plant, starting the total removal from the face of the Mother Earth all of the nuclear power plants in Germany. No going back!
Germany blows up its economy.
Idiocracy!
Effing ignorant fools-God help’em.
Merkel said she was worried that a Tsunami like the one that hit Japan, would hit Germany’s nuclear power plants.
Has a Tsunami ever hit Germany?
These are the kinds of clueless folks we are dealing with. When they get in positions of power, it is bad news for the Little Guy.
Hmm…since most of Germany’s nuclear plants were placed away from the (quite short) northern coastline the Merkel tsunami would have had to be of truly apolyptical dimensions. Gundremmingen f.e. could either be reached from the Northsea (just some 700km away) or overcome the Alpes (2000m height easily)….well no more further comment needed.
Idiocracy ², the sequel Hollywood didn’t have to produce…the western world did and does.
Hey, John Cusack is capable of doing it.
“Merkel said she was worried that a Tsunami like the one that hit Japan, would hit Germany’s nuclear power plants.”
Merkel never said that Tom. That is false. But Ronald Regan did say the words in the Canadian advert that sent the Don into a spiral. But it is also true he (Regan) used targeted tariffs. Two things can be true at once it seems.
The tariffs are to offset the non-tariff trade barriers countries put up against US products.
It is so much easier to impose a tariff than to hassle about each non-tariff trade barrier countries put.
Some years ago, I tried to import Vermont cheddar cheese into. Norway.
I went to the embassy, talked to one of their representatives.
The first reaction was “ We have more than enough cheese in Norway”
I said, but the cheddar cheese tastes really good.
He said, Oh, you have to go to trade shows, demonstrate your products, May be get some orders.
Norway and many other EU countries, sell various cheeses in the US, because they buy F-35s, and Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium own more than 60% of the food super markets on the East Coast.
That is the way for the EU to sell its farm products in the US.
The tsunami was one of the reasons used to close German nuclear power plants.
She never said she was concerned about tsunamis destroying German power stations. If you are saying she did, you can add it to the list of things you have misrepresented here.
“The closure of Germany’s nuclear power after the Fukushima disaster was a significant decision that marked a shift in the country’s energy policy.
The German government initiated a “nuclear moratorium” immediately after the accident, suspending the operation of the seven oldest nuclear power plants for three months.”
Also Fukushima triggered Germany’s nuclear phaseout – DW – 03/10/2021
Simon wrong….. .. yet again !!
Also
The German Nuclear Phase-Out After Fukushima: A Peculiar Path or an Example for Others? on JSTOR
Ficha-nuclear-Caso-Alemania_vingles.pdf
Just below the heading “Discussion on the return of nuclear power”
we see the following box-comments (need to click on image to read it properly)
Can’t read your colouring in box. This is what she actually said.
“If a highly developed country like Japan, with high safety standards and norms, cannot prevent the consequences for nuclear power of an earthquake and a tsunami, then this has consequences for the whole world”.
Nothing about Germany being at risk from tsunami’s which is what Tom’s post was about.
Oh dear.. how deep a hole do you need to bury yourself. 🙂
Keep digging.. its hilarious. !!
Fukushima was a major factor in speeding up the closure..
.. reversed a decision to keep them open to 2036.
Your quote actually proves Tom correct.. well done, simple one. !!
You need to not only learn to read but to understand what the words mean. I think Merkel knew Tsunami’s were not a threat to Germany. If you think she did, that explains a lot and I can’t help you.
“You need to not only learn to read but to understand what the words mean. I think Merkel knew Tsunami’s were not a threat to Germany. If you think she did, that explains a lot and I can’t help you.”
That’s rich from someone who uses apostrophes for plurals. SMH.
Um…30 foot seawall failed when seawall dropped 30 ft due to quake. Real problem was putting the emergency back-up power generators at ground level-which was a real good example of poor planning-but who knew? Emergency plans always forget the hidden, possibly can’t happen emergency.
Try clicking on the box. Worked for me. Simple. Simone
Try clicking on the picture box and it will magically appear legible.
Your TDS slip is showing. Face it, Trump wins and you can’t take it.
So what do you say Derg about releasing the Epstein files? You keen to seen those pedos held to account?
Oh dear, Simon has an Epstein fetish.
I wonder, did he have it during the Autopen years ??
Oh dear, bnasty is a pedo protector. I say release the lot and let’s see who deserves to be held accountable.
The age of consent in the USA varies from 16 to 18, depending on the state. Unlike you, I haven’t been following closely, but it seems to me that to try to take the moral high-ground is difficult when what is an immoral or illegal act in one state becomes legal by stepping over the state line. It isn’t like these young women were blackmailed or coerced at the barrel of a gun. If society wants to discourage teenagers from being sexually active, so be it. However, I hardly think that you are warranted in getting all puffed up about your moral superiority.
Unbelievable. These girls were trafficked. Prostituted. Some were barely in their teens. They were tricked into thinking they were in for modelling careers. According to Pam Bondi there were upwards of 1000 of them. That you would try to justify or minimise this is beyond belief. I have no words. And I don’t give a flying f**k whether you think I am warranted to talk about this or not. We should all be holding these scumbags to account no matter which political party they belong to.
No-one is trying to justify anything.
Just wondering why the Autopen did absolutely nothing for 4 years.
But you didn’t care then.. did you !! 😉
I have no words for that sort of disgusting hypocrisy . !!
Would not surprise me if the Autopen hid and redacted much of what was available.
“Just wondering why the Autopen did absolutely nothing for 4 years.”
Maybe there are dems in the file. Ever considered that? I’m good to see whoever was involved in this epic cover up and make them pay for their sins. You on the other hand don’t seem to want justice for the women here. The man who says he supports the party that supports law and order. Now that buddy is genuine hypocrisy.
Epstein’s right-hand woman says Trump had no connection to any of this scandal.
I know you are hoping against hope that Trump’s name is on some list of Epstein’s, but so far, nothing, and a principal in the criminal activity says Trump wasn’t involved in any way.
I think you are going to be disappointed when all the facts come out.
Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago.
Trump had no connection
If everything were released and ended up showing no connection to Trump, the next rallying cry would be “they were altered, release the real list”.
“If everything were released and ended up showing no connection to Trump, the next rallying cry would be “they were altered, release the real list.”
But that is no reason not to hold everyone involved in this sordid coverup accountable… is it? Truth is often hard to get to, particularly when rich people are involved. But that doesn’t mean we should stop trying. Don’t you want to know the sickos that abused these girls? Don’t you want the victims to get justice? I thought law and order was important to Republicans. What happened?
“Epstein’s right-hand woman says Trump had no connection to any of this scandal.”
Hmmm now why do you think she might have said that? Maybe she was telling the truth, or maybe she wanted to get moved to a nicer prison.
And Trump is not the only rich powerful person potentially involved here.
Why weren’t you in hysterics during the Autopen years.??
You didn’t care then, did you
Your fetish is all about Trump, not the poor girls. !!
Disgusting to make it all about your bent political idiotology and TDS.
So you are fine being a Pedo protector? Wow. I knew you were low but…. this low?
lol Dems had 4 years to get Trump for Epstein…you are so dumb
If Dems are guilty I say bring it on. Release the files.
we are still waiting for you to find the Pee Pee tape…lol
Another quality comment from Derg.
Simon – TDS ?? As if …..
He might even have RDS, given that he can’t spell his name.
Simon believes that there’s data somewhere showing that atmospheric CO2 going from 280ppm to 430ppm has caused a scientifically measurable effect on some global climate parameter.
How long you been lookin’ for it Simon ? 20 years ? Have you tried your sock drawer ?
Nah…I keep my gun in my sock drawer.
I’ve been looking for that evidence for about 50 years, and haven’t seen one shred of evidence that demonstrates CO2 has any effect on the Earth’s weather or climate.
Climate Alarmists are now reduced to pretending climate change speculation is equivalent to established facts.
Angela worried about a lot of things.
But all the wrong ones.
If she worried instead about Germany’s future economic wellbeing, the country wouldn’t be the basket case it is today.
Oh well, the Germans kept voting for her I suppose.
(Pity about their younger generations’ prospects now though 🙁 )
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/germany-california-nuclear-power-climate/620888/
“Throughout her first six years as chancellor, Merkel had championed Germany’s nuclear industry, dismissing objections as “absurd.” According to Merkel’s allies, she was jolted out of that view by the wreck of the nuclear-power plant in Fukushima prefecture in Japan.”
So you see, there is a connection between Merkel and the Japanese Tsunami and nuclear power plants.
Reagan’s speech was taken out of context.
https://copyrightlately.com/reagan-foundation-copyright-infringement-ontario-canada-tariff-ad/
“The Foundation hasn’t explained what was supposedly misrepresented. Yes, the ad rearranged some of Reagan’s lines—but his overall anti-tariff message came through unchanged. In the original address, Reagan defended semiconductor duties as a narrow “special case” while warning that broader protectionism would trigger the very trade wars Trump now openly embraces.”
Reagan is a free market fellow, so he doesn’t like tariffs per se, but his speech was actually giving his reasons for imposing “duties”/tariffs because it was a “special case”. So in special cases, Reagan is ok imposing tariffs, as his speech conveyed.
Trump just sees a lot more “special cases” today than faced Reagan way back when. Every country in the world practically, is cheating the U.S. out of money, and Trump is imposing tariffs to equal all this out. Other nations impose tariffs on us, so we will impose the same on them.
I think if Reagan were president today, he would be imposing tariffs just like Trump is doing in “special cases”.
““Throughout her first six years as chancellor, Merkel had championed Germany’s nuclear industry, dismissing objections as “absurd.” According to Merkel’s allies, she was jolted out of that view by the wreck of the nuclear-power plant in Fukushima prefecture in Japan.””
That makes sense as in probably true.
“So you see, there is a connection between Merkel and the Japanese Tsunami and nuclear power plants.”
YESSSSS!!!! but not what you said Tom. Here are your words…
“Merkel said she was worried that a Tsunami like the one that hit Japan, would hit Germany’s nuclear power plants.“
That is just plain wrong Tom and you were telling a Trump Truth (lie) there.
“Reagan is a free market fellow, so he doesn’t like tariffs per se, but his speech was actually giving his reasons for imposing “duties”/tariffs because it was a “special case”. So in special cases, Reagan is ok imposing tariffs, as his speech conveyed.”
True. He was ok imposing targeted tariffs. But I said that. And there is no way Reagan would have supported what Trump is doing. He liked free trade and said so many times.
“Trump just sees a lot more “special cases” today than faced Reagan way back when. Every country in the world practically, is cheating the U.S. out of money, and Trump is imposing tariffs to equal all this out. Other nations impose tariffs on us, so we will impose the same on them.”
It is not true Tom that “Every country in the world practically, is cheating the U.S. out of money,” Many countries don’t impose tariffs on the US and still got hammered. And many countries had a trade deficit with the US and still got hammered.
And it is a bit precious of Trump to get upset about a Canadian state pushing the boundaries of truth, when he does it daily.
WOW .. you finally get round to ADMITTING that it was the Fukushima tsunami that changed Merkel’s mind about nuclear.
Well done !!
All that childish bluster for nothing.. Very funny !!
Many countries didn’t allow US imports at all.. That is way more than a tariff !!
You hate the USA so much, and your TDS has so deranged your mind that you think a “level tariff field” is unfair.
I’ll admit that Merkel is not on record saying a Tsunami could hit Germany, but they were wringing their hands over the natural disasters that took place in Japan, a Tsunami and an earthquake. So they thought one or the other could have an effect on a German reactor and decided to shut down their nuclear program based on that.
” And there is no way Reagan would have supported what Trump is doing. He liked free trade and said so many times.”
You don’t know that. That;’s pure speculation. Trump would like free, fair trade today, too, but that is not a reality in this world. There is no free trade. If everyone dropped all their tariffs and other restriction on trade, then that would be free trade, but we don’t have that today. Not even close.
The circumstances today are VERY different from the circumstances during Reagan’s terms in office. I think Reagan would be doing exactly what Trump is doing if he were faced with the same situation.
Both Reagan and Trump are all about protecting the United States. One of the first things both Reagan and Trump did was rebuild the U.S. military. This was required because both were following Democrat presidents who neglected the U.S. military. All Democrat presidents neglect the U.S. Military. Reagan’s goal was a 600-ship Navy.
I think Reagan would applaud Trump bringing in 15 TRILLION dollars in investments into the United States. An unprecedented number. That would not have happened without tariffs (and AI, and a sane energy policy). The New York Stock Exchange hit a new all-time high yesterday, as did the Japanese stock market. You can expect a lot more of that in the future with those kinds of investments coming in.
You can whine about it, but it’s a done deal. Trump is stimulating the American economy and bringing back essential services to the United States like requiring medicines to be manufactured in the United States, along with numerous other vital, and national security items that the U.S. does not produce itself, but will be producing by the time Trump leaves office. I think Reagan would be all for something like that.
Well we will have to agree to disagree. I think Reagan would have little time for Trump given Reagan was a man of principles and had a respect for those who adhere to morals. He certainly would not be approving the last two confessed criminals (Santos and Binance founder Changpeng Zhao) Trump has let go. Both admitted their guilt in court. It is just mind blowing the level of corruption he is now publicly supporting. He is sending a loud a clear message… support me and I will interfere in the legal system and get you off. Reagan would be turning in his grave.
The little guys elected the idiots. Ya reap what ya sow ya know.
That’s true. The problem is the voters believe things about the people they elect that are not true, thanks to the Leftwing Media.
The Media tells the voters people like Merkel should be elected and the voters dutifully do the Media’s bidding.
That’s why lying Leftwing Media are so dangerous. People cannot govern themselves properly (elect the right people) when all the information they get from the Media is filled with lies and distortions.
By and large, the media are only reporting what the lying politicians tell them. Any voter who believes any lying campaigner is a fool. Democracy is a highly variable thing. At best it is a reflection of all thats good in society and at worst a reflection of all that’s bad. The personal integrity with which a voter casts their vote matters hugely.
It pains me to wish Germany intense pain and misery but I am turning into an accelerationist. No amount of reasoning is capable of halting Germany’s deindustrialization and the dimming of its lights, and as Germany goes, so goes the rest of Europe (including the UK). It needs to happen soon so the rest of us stop before we do too much of our own damage. If Germany wants to be the pioneer, crack on, and crack on fast.
I’ve said it before and I insist it is true: once you deindustrialize, it is NEVER coming back.
Deutschstan and Anglostan will reindustrialise just as soon as they finish replacing the population, quelgeek.
Hello everyone,
I apologize for any language errors in this message: I’m French, and far from having sufficient command of English to conduct a satisfactory discussion with you. So, I use So I use a machine translator.
I’ve been following this blog for some time now. After experiencing the first waves of “climate panic” to which my generation is subjected (I’m in my early twenties), I decided to diversify my sources of information a little to see what was happening outside the mainstream media.
So I happily discovered the Wattsupwithtat blog, and, a little later, the Climate Discussion Nexus, hosted by John Robson. I also watched some of Joe Rogan’s podcasts (with French subtitles, which aren’t ideal for capturing all the linguistic subtleties, but they allow me to grasp the gist.)
I realized that CO2 levels and temperature changes were not correlated in geological history. I’ve also heard that CO2 has been higher during colder periods than the current one. I’d really like to verify this information. If anyone has a reliable source to support this, I’d be very grateful if they could share it with me.
Thank you all. And I hope you have a wonderful day/evening/night, depending on where you are in the world.
Good luck to you.
Open-minded people like you are always welcome here, Charles.
“…CO2 levels and temperature changes were not correlated in geological history. I’ve also heard that CO2 has been higher during colder periods than the current one. I’d really like to verify this information. If anyone has a reliable source to support this, I’d be very grateful if they could share it with me….” There are various sources available on the net and on this forum if you go back. They are in graph form. When you go back in history they usually all match. Not so much in the 20th century when bad actors started fudging the numbers to support their claims.
I can highly recommend the book “Politics & Climate Science – A HISTORY” by Andy May, which has recently been updated/revised.
Can also highly recommend the publication “The Frozen Climate Views of the IPCC”, edited by Marcel Crok and Andy May, published by The Clintel Foundation. (https://clintel.shop/product/the-frozen-climate-views-of-the-ipcc )
Unfortunately, I don’t know if either of these is available in French text.
And by all means, check out the various resources listed on this webpage’s right-side column under the heading Bookmarks . . . having been vetted by Anthony Watts and WUWT editors, I trust them all to be reliable sources of information, particularly as they discuss atmospheric CO2 variations vis-à-vis Earth’s lower atmosphere temperature variations at global scale.
Thank you all very much for your welcome and for these valuable links.
I know Andy May’s name—I watched one of his interviews on Tom Nelson’s show. It was excellent.
I will obtain these documents and will manage to translate them, even if it means copying paragraphs into ChatGPT (which is very politically biased, but is reliable, in my experience, when asked to limit itself to translating a text, without necessarily offering a biased critique.)
Steven Koonin’s book “Unsettled” has been translated into French, as has Michael Shellenberger’s Apocalypse Never. These are valuable resources, obviously criticized by the left-wing press.
A law is/was under discussion in France aimed at criminalizing climate skepticism, and an organization called “Quotaclimat” is now responsible for “censoring environmental disinformation.”
We’re not getting fined for climate skepticism yet. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
The situation is worrying, to say the least, isn’t it?
And likewise thank you for seeking truth . . . it’s a precious trait these days.
Yes, the developing trends calling for censorship of those disputing climate change™ that are happening around the world—even in the USA with its key First Amendment to the US Constitution offering protection of free speech—is very, very worrisome.
In terms of descriptions of The Scientific Method, nowhere to be found are the terms “censorship” or “consensus”.
Thank you all very much for your welcome and for these valuable links.
I know Andy May’s name—I watched one of his interviews on Tom Nelson’s show. It was excellent.
I will obtain these documents and will manage to translate them, even if it means copying paragraphs into ChatGPT (which is very politically biased, but is reliable, in my experience, when asked to limit itself to translating a text, without necessarily offering a biased critique.)
Steven Koonin’s book “Unsettled” has been translated into French, as has Michael Shellenberger’s Apocalypse Never. These are valuable resources, obviously criticized by the left-wing press.
A law is/was under discussion in France aimed at criminalizing climate skepticism, and an organization called “Quotaclimat” is now responsible for “censoring environmental disinformation.”
We’re not getting fined for climate skepticism yet. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen.
The situation is worrying, to say the least, isn’t it?
One of the best paleotemperature resources is a chart produced by Bill Illis, 750 million years of temperature, plotted against CO2 concentration (in the form of ‘what the temperature would have been if the sensitivity to CO2 was three Celsius degrees per doubling’). At one time, there was a direct link here under “Reference”, but the links have gone dead. The chart itself can be found by using a search engine.
I would put in a link here, but I’m very old, and not tech-savvy. Maybe a mod or one of the young bucks here can find the chart and post some link.
The key to Bill’s chart is this: temperature and CO2 concentration are negatively correlated. I’ve run several different cross-correlation routines on the data, and always get a coefficient of -0.29 to -0.37 (differences due to alternate algorithms, window padding, window tapers, and any added white noise).
I would particularly point out the Hirnantian, the last Epoch of the Ordovician Period. From multiple sources (see below), the estimated CO2 concentration was about ten times today’s concentration, yet the Earth was in the midst of a 3 – 4 million year ice age. The Cryogenian Period is an even better example, with CO2 concentration measured in percents, yet the Earth was in the state commonly referred to as “Snowball Earth”. Only the equatorial regions were ice-free.
Geological Time Scale 2020 (Gradstein, Ogg, Schmitz, Ogg; Elsevier) may not be available in French, but it, and all of the various GTS editions, are phenomenal sources of geochemical information.
Veizer produced an amazing Phanerozoic temperature against CO2 chart. While different sourcing and methods, the result is generally the same: there is no correlation between temperature and the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere.
Scotese produces a chart, which, as far as it goes, is good, but is too stylized for my tastes. If one based their paleotemperature data on Scotese, one would think the Earth had but two temperature regimes: warm, and ‘not-warm’. The Illis chart and Veizer chart show stronger variation than Scotese.
The only French I know (and will probably spell it wrong) is from The Longest Day, where the U.K. commandos are wishing their French allies well, just before the invasion: Bon chance. Keep seeking information; keep coming back here; explore some of the other sites Anthony links to: they all have good, reliable information.
Mark H
Thank you for all this information! They are precious.
I hope that luck will smile on us, indeed.
“One of the best paleotemperature resources is a chart produced by Bill Illis, 750 million years of temperature”
Not possible. 750 million years of proxies, which may or may not portray temperature some of the time. Impossible to tell, really.
Was the museum jewel theft an inside job?
Frankly, I doubt it! It’s more likely the work of a very well-prepared team of burglars. I understand they dropped Empress Josephine’s crown on the way. Well-prepared criminals, then, but subject to a certain nervousness! In any case, in France, I’d say we have other problems than this jewel theft. Deindustrialization is one of our biggest concerns.
Indeed . . . France’s national debt-to-GDP ratio is approximately 116%, a figure that has risen significantly in recent years. This figure is nearly double the European Union’s recommended limit of 60%.
Looks like France is following the lead of the USA, with its current Federal debt-to-GDP ratio now at about 121%. YIKES!
Debt….. to who ??
I guess I need to spell it out to you because you are not willing to research it yourself. Pity.
US Federal debt is “held” (i.e., payable to) individuals and nations that have purchased securities issued by the US government, such as Treasure Bonds, Treasury Bills, Treasury Notes, Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities (TIPS), Treasury Floating Rate Notes (FRNs), US Savings Bonds, and mortgage-backed securities issued via Government-sponsored entities such as Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (whew!). All such are said to be “backed by the full faith and credit of the United States”, resulting in why they are so ubiquitous in world financial markets. The current such outstanding debt obligations total to over $38 TRILLION.
About 24% of US federal debt is held by foreign entities while the remaining 76% is held by US citizens and businesses/institutions.
If you want a further definition of “who”, Web search engines and AI bots can be your friends in identifying amounts held by various specific “payees”, both domestic and international.
There.
So 76% of the USA’s debt, is to the USA. !..
Ok ! 🙂
Yes…the gov’t owes it to people who paid income tax and then put what was left into various gov’t bonds for their retirement years.
I see you used an exclamation mark in your comment. Why is that statement surprising to you, or do you not understand that there is no real difference between being indebted to an individual, a business/institution, or a nation state?
P.S. There is a distinct difference between the USA as a nation, and an individual citizen of the USA . . . but it looks like you also overlooked that simple fact.
Yes, the Napoleon-era jeweled items that were stolen came from inside the second floor of the Louvre, specifically the Apollo Gallery.
;-))
Tell all your friends to come and visit this site, and that they should install a translation app. At this site they can obtain info for the elimination of the carbon tax. They will also learn that CO2 does not cause global warming.
I’m going to talk about it around me! Unfortunately, anathema is never far away. There are people I know that nothing will be able to make them even reconsider their point of view. Most of the time, they are far-left people, seduced by the principle of degrowth. I don’t really see what could be so exciting about a return to the 18th century, but oh well. There are worse colors than green to repaint one’s Marxism. Chromatically speaking, red and green are complementary…
Comme une pastèque, verte à l’extérieur et rouge à l’intérieur, n’est-ce pas ?
Exact ! Unfortunately, we have some beautiful specimens here. It would be dramatic if they went to elections in 2027.
A Frenchman with an open mind is a rare bird indeed.
Be nice, Will, I’ve met some very nice Frenchies over here in the States, been drunk with a few, and sung the “Marseillaise” with a couple on a seriously snow stormy nite in Illinois next to a fireplace in a 1880’s hotel.
“Lafayette, we are here!” 🙂
Bienvenue dans la réalité !
I saw on X that this site:
In that spirit I link to “Equilibrium Lapse Rate I,” which together with a successor post describes a logical flaw in Robert Brown’s “A Refutation of Stable Equilibrium Lapse Rates.” I hasten to add that it’s something this site has declined to run as a head post and that the point it makes is highly academic. Still, if you’re interested in a little critical thinking. . . .
Hey, Joe
See equation 2.18 for even more critical thinking. It says there WILL be a lapse rate in a gravitational field if you do your hamiltonians correctly….
https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/entropy/entropy-16-01515/article_deploy/entropy-16-01515.pdf?version=1424785352
Thanks a lot. Unfortunately, I’m not a theoretical-mechanics ace, so although it seems to say what you contend it does I’ll need to pray and fast over it a bit before I’m sure.
You might not be an ace, but you’re in good company. Boltzmann, Loschmidt, Maxwell argued back and forth. Feynman even took up the “no gradient” argument in more modern times. It continues to be a point of discussion in physics grad lounges today. There are papers on both sides saying their calculation are irrefutably correct.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375017329_Fundamental_Relation_for_the_Ideal_Gas_in_the_Gravitational_Field_and_Heat_Flow/fulltext/653bb064f7d021785f16021b/Fundamental-Relation-for-the-Ideal-Gas-in-the-Gravitational-Field-and-Heat-Flow.pdf?origin=publication_detail&_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uRG93bmxvYWQiLCJwcmV2aW91c1BhZ2UiOiJwdWJsaWNhdGlvbiJ9fQ
Thanks again. Unfortunately, I still haven’t had an opportunity to slog through all the equations, and I may not for awhile.
For now I’ll just mention that when the issue came up initially I did go through all the math in Velasco et al. and if I remember correctly I found their math compelling except for a minor notational infelicity or two. However, I disagreed with their view that it would be false to say of a finite gas that “Temperature is proportional to the average molecular kinetic energy.”
That is, they recognized their math’s conclusion that the average molecular kinetic energy does decrease (by an immeasurably small amount) with height, but unlike me they didn’t look upon that decrease as meaning that the temperature is height dependent. Perhaps, though, this is merely a question of definition.
“I hasten to add that it’s something this site has declined to run as a head post”
Rabbit hole fatigue Joe.
It’s well beyond time to see some data on the actual question – hasten to that, but don’t hold your breath while you’re hastening.
RGB was a great poster on this site. He taught me a lot.
This is 2025 and as Roy Orbison sang so poignantly – It’s over.
Roy Orbison is one of my favorites.
EUROPE AIMS TO WEAKEN THE US WITH EXPENSIVE OFFSHORE WINDMILLS THAT PRODUCE EXPENSIVE, LOW-QUALITY ELECTRICITY
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/europe-attempts-to-entangle-us-with-expensive-offshore-windmills
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Net zero by 2050 Euro elites tried to weaken the US, with help of the unpatriotic, leftist Biden clique, into going down the black hole of 30,000 MW by 2030 of expensive, highly-subsidized, weather-dependent, grid-disturbing offshore windmill systems, which would need expensive, highly subsidized, short-lived, battery systems for grid support.
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Offshore wind full cost of electricity FCOE = 30 c/kWh + 11 c/kWh = 41 c/kWh, no subsidies
Offshore wind full cost of electricity FCOE = 15 c/kWh + 11 c/kWh = 26 c/kWh, 50% subsidies
The 11 c/kWh is for various measures required by wind and solar. Power plant to landfill cost basis.
This compares with 7 c/kWh + 3 c/kWh = 10 c/kWh from existing gas, coal, nuclear, large reservoir hydro plants.
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Such expensive W/S electricity would have made the US even less competitive in world markets.
Any US tariffs on the European supply of wind systems would greatly increase their turnkey capital costs/MW and their electricity costs/ kWh.
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Almost the entire supply of the wind projects would be:
1) designed and made in Europe,
2) then transported across the Atlantic Ocean by European specialized ships,
3) then unloaded at new, taxpayer-financed, $500-million storage/pre-assembly/staging/barge-loading areas,
4) then barged to European specialized erection ships for erection of the windmill systems.
5) The financing would be mostly by European pension funds, that pay benefits to European retirees.
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Hundreds of people in each seashore state would have jobs during the erection phase
The other erection jobs would be by specialized European people, mostly on cranes and ships
Hundreds of people in each seashore state would have long-term O&M jobs, using mostly European spare parts, during the 20-y electricity production phase.
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Conglomerates owned by Euro elites would finance, build, erect, own and operate almost all of the 30,000 MW of offshore windmills, providing work for many thousands of European workers for decades, and multi-$billion profits each year.
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That Euro offshore wind ruse did not work out, because Trump was elected.
Trump-hating, Euro elites are furious. Projects are being cancelled. The European windmill industry is in shambles, with multi-$billion annual losses, lay-offs and tens of $billions of stranded costs.
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Trump spared the US from the W/S evils inflicted by the leftist, woke Democrat cabal, that used an autopen for Biden signatures, and bypassed on-the-beach/in-the-basement Biden, an increasingly dysfunctional Marionette.
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Trump declared a National Energy Emergency, and put W/S/B systems at the bottom of the list, and suspended their licenses to put their rushed, glossy environmental impact statements, EIS, under proper scrutiny.
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Euro elites used the IPCC-invented, “CO2-is-evil” hoax, based on its own “science”.
These elites used:
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1) the foghorn of government-subsidized Corporate Media to propagate scare-mongering slogans and brainwash the people,
2) censorship to suppress free thinking on town hall forums,
3) election interference, as in Moldova and Georgia,
4) ostracizing /marginalizing major political parties to produce desired outcomes, as in Germany.
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Wall Street elites saw an opportunity for tax shelters for its elite clients.
Woke politicians/bureaucrats were “cut-in” on $juicy deals to pass subsidies, favorable rules and regulations, and impose government mandates.
Euro elites wanted the US to deliver electricity to users at very high c/kWh, to preserve Europe’s extremely advantageous trade balance with the US.
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/international-trade-is-a-dog-eat-dog-business
Seriously? Erection costs, eh? Bend over, people…
“That Euro offshore wind ruse did not work out, because Trump was elected.
Trump-hating, Euro elites are furious. Projects are being cancelled. The European windmill industry is in shambles, with multi-$billion annual losses, lay-offs and tens of $billions of stranded costs.”
That’s too bad they are furious. They need to calm down because the situation is not going to get better, it is going to get worse. Windmills and industrial solar cannot power a viable society. It should be obvious to all by now, but unfortunately, the politicians who are promoting the Net Zero insanity are too committed to it to admit they are wrong and are on the wrong course.
THE IMPOVERISHED, DYSFUNCTIONAL STATE OF MAINE
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-dysfunctional-state-of-maine
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The over-taxed, over-regulated, already-impoverished Maine people are super-screwed, trying to make ends meet in a near-zero, real growth Maine economy
The Maine economy has lots of low-tech/low-pay/low-benefit, bs jobs
The Maine economy has lots of woke, leftist bureaucrats
Screwed-over Mainers also have to pay for poverty-stricken, aliens of different cultures from all over, who illegally enter the US, a federal felony
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Those unvetted, illegal, often voting aliens, from all-over, are:
– the dregs of Third World countries, sent to Maine by their US-hating, leftist, woke governments, in cahoots with Soros/Biden-financed NGOs
– getting free housing, free food, a never-empty credit card, free phones, free healthcare, free education/job training and whatever other goodies they want.
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They mainly suck from the government tit:
– have no skills, no training, no education, no modern industrial experience.
– will take low-tech/low-pay/low-benefit jobs at 30% less than screwed-over Mainers.
– are often good at crime, murder, rape, drug and human trafficking, and driving vehicles into native merrymakers.
– the tens of millions of incompatible, subversive, walk-ins would rather undermine, instead of fight for traditional European and US values and culture.
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Many millions of illegal aliens have to be shipped back where they came from, before they forever ruin the US, as they ruined Europe, France ,the UK, Ireland, Spain, etc.
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Visual Ugliness of wind and Solar: Down-trodden Mainers often have to put up with the visual ugliness and noise of hundreds of windmills, that are often idle, because of too little wind year-round, and many thousands of acres of solar panels, that are often covered with snow and ice in winter; there is no solar at night.
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Girls Competing with Boys on Girls Teams: Down-trodden Maine families also have to endure the insults of government-imposed mandates of having their girls compete with “boys” on girls’ teams, and “sharing” girl bathrooms and locker rooms, and “losing” their matches to the “boys”, all as mandated by woke Governor Mills, surrounded by her cabal of idiots and her ingrown clique of bureaucrats sucking from the government tit.
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Experience of Denmark with Palestinians
The first generation (1992 arrivals):
Total accepted: 321 Palestinians
Still in Denmark by 2019: 270 people; about 84% remained.
Convicted of crimes: 204 people (63.6%).
Prison sentences: 71 people (22.1%).
Welfare dependency:
In 2003, 238 of 321 (74%) received some form of benefit.
In 2019, 176 full-time equivalents were on welfare.
Of these, 122 were on disability pensions; meaning roughly two-thirds of working-age people were on permanent pension payments.
The second generation (their children):
Total children: 999 born or raised in Denmark
Each couple has many children, because each child gets a monthly government check until 18.
Convicted of crimes: 337 (33.7%).
Prison sentences: 65 (6.5%).
This means the crime rate dropped between generations; from 63% down to 34%; but remained far higher than the Danish national average.
93-95% of Palestinians are Muslim, who do not marry Danish women.
In 2019, the Danish Justice Minister stated: “These asylum seekers should not have been let in”.
Norway, Sweden, etc., had similar experiences.
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Denmark: 72% of gang-crime convicts have non-Western background, i.e. 15% of the Danish population has 5 times the crime rate.
https://willempost.substack.com/p/denmark-72-of-gang-crime-convicts?r=1n3sit&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
Does anyone recall an article here from 2024 requesting mass participation in a data gathering exercise for the Great American Solar Eclipse? The idea was to have a lot of people download a smartphone app which would use the phone’s barometer and camera to record barometric pressure, temperature and ambient sunlight intensity during the event, and transmit the data (along with the phone’s GPS location) to a central server. The author was then going to do a lot of data analysis to find out what the effects of the eclipse were on the atmosphere. I thought it was a great idea, and participated. But I never heard anything about it after that. Does anyone know what, if anything, became of the project?
Hmmmm, since apparently there was no followup reporting to that request, I’m just wondering what other “things” might have been downloaded with that app?
Or perhaps the “requester” just wanted a quick means to collect many valid phone numbers and/or email addresses?
It’s very likely that there indeed was data gathering, just not the parameters you listed.
Open thread.
I’d noticed the same scream showing up in multiple TV shows and movies. (An elf in The Two Towers falling off the wall.) I can’t replicate it in type but I’ve heard it many times, usually when someone is falling off of something. I found it’s stock sound, I think called “The Wilden Scream” from a 1950’s movie.
Something else I’ve noticed is a lightening bolt that looks like a small case “Y” on it’s side. It might date back to Frankenstein? I’ve noticed it since in an episode or two of “Murder She Wrote”, plus other movies and shows.
Does anybody know if it really is “stock footage” or what it is called?
(Hey, it’s lightening. That’s somewhat Climate related.) 😎
No, lightening is related to decreasing, for example, shades of color/colour or, in other cases, moods.
Hey, friends tap friends on the shoulder ….. lightning.
I’ve noticed the same thing, regarding the scream. They have thousands of people making these films, and not one of them can do a scream?
I’ve casually been trying to find a long term average temperature for the earth. Preferably in terms of billions of years. I’m curious to see where we’re really at in terms of ultra long term averages.
Try some keywords, add “history” and do an “image” search….then maybe use some graph axis titles as your next keywords….
Geologic Time Scale 2020; Elsevier Publishing; edited by Gradstein, Ogg, Schmitz, and Ogg. The only reliable paleotemperature data go back to about 3.2 billion years.
Short version: with numerous excursions, both directions, the Earth has been cooling since our first inkling of how warm the late Archean was. Also, understand that the farther back we look, the less data we have, so inference is a big part of understanding how the surface temperature has varied over time.
Why? Global average temperature is utterly meaningless.
I found, following the recommendations of Mark Hladik (whom I thank again in passing), and my reading of the summary of the debate between William Happer and David Karoly, written by Andy May, the confirmation of what I had read previously: the Ordovician was therefore significantly more loaded with CO2 than our time (about 10 times more, according to estimates, and maintaining the caution that is appropriate when it comes to reading reconstructions paleoclimatic studies covering periods so distant from us), and yet there was a very cold period just after, with very high CO2 levels. I hope I’m not mistaken. Now, an argument “in support” of CO2, would be that there was a solar minimum at the time (I believed that this kind of thing could only be deduced from a direct observation of our star), and that the several thousand parts per million of CO2 present in the atmosphere at that time would have in some way “compensated” for the lack of solar activity. However, I understand that we are currently experiencing a solar minimum. How is it, then, that with almost 10 times less CO2 in our atmosphere, and not noting any strong solar activity, we are not freezing in place, if CO2 is the famous “control button?”
In any case, this research is very interesting.