The Integrated Resource Plan

Kevin Kilty

A number of people who comment and blog regularly at WUWT, the Manhattan Contrarian and other websites that allow broad opinions on climate and energy, have mixed views about the worth of Integrated Resource Plans (IRPs) that utilities are commanded to produce every two years. 

Probably the majority opinion is that these are “political” documents intended to simply meet a reporting requirement of the public utility commissions (PSCs) and mollify those people in power who James Graham describes as occasionally meeting “the definition of proper fanatics”. Folks holding this “political document” opinion probably view IRPs as essentially worthless.

There is certainly evidence to support their beliefs. I spend quite a lot of my time reviewing IRPs; not only those from my own utility, but those from neighboring utilities as well, in order to write sensible public comments for our PSC. I find basic errors of fact, logic and engineering practice in them, as well as inconsistencies and errors carried forward each biennium into successive generations of IRPs.

On the other hand, I feel that PSCs offer the last line of defense against making disastrous decisions about the delivery of energy and other services. I feel that IRPs offer valuable insight into the current philosophy of a utility and the current predominant beliefs of their management, who obviously sign-off on IRPs. Errors persisting over generations of IRPs must represent honest views among people within the utility or PSC. Sometimes PSC commissioners, or people within management ranks of the utility, state these beliefs explicitly.

For example, I have written at WUWT before about the Chair of the Wyoming PSC stating at an energy conference that whereas the traditional role of a PSC is to ensure energy that is safe, reliable and affordable, “this isn’t your grandfather’s PSC any longer” and that the “PSC would never again approve a project that would release CO2 into the atmosphere.”  Likewise, in a serendipitous meeting with the President of a large electric utility and a number of his management people, I was told a fantastic story about how “wind energy” could be dispatched seemingly at will, and responded by asking “How do you do such a thing?”

I am not suggesting these people are incompetent in any way. I am saying that it is easy for a person, very competent in a particular niche within an organization, to not competently understand the particulars of another niche within the enterprise nor even the business as a whole.

Moreover, I think the evolution of IRPs, how they change from one generation to the next is a valuable indicator of whether the utility is learning and moving toward a more rational view of evolving energy and service delivery or not.

Changes to how Wyoming PSC views IRPs

The Wyoming PSC has in the past viewed the IRP delivery as a pro forma process. However, the PSC recently has considered adopting a formal process for utilities to file an application for approval of their IRP and providing a formal pathway for review and adoption by the PSC. Not all PSCs allow such a formal process. The Wyoming Office of Consumer Advocate, however, provides a compelling rationale for such a process:

“Utilities should be required to submit a formal application requesting Commission approval

of their IRP. While the current process allows for public comments, a more structured application

process is necessary to ensure meaningful regulatory oversight. A formal application process enables parties to intervene, conduct discovery, access confidential information where appropriate, and present evidence or recommendations regarding whether the Commission should approve, reject, or require modifications to the IRP.”

I am firmly in favor of adopting such a formal process. Interestingly, one of the commenters to the technical conference on this topic is the Sierra Club who are also in favor of such a process. In their commentary (see Wyoming PSC Record No. 17669) they state:

“…Sierra Club makes three recommendations for the Commission’s consideration: (1) allow for contested case procedures in IRP dockets while also ensuring broad public participation through acceptance of public comment and holding of public hearings; (2) require specificity in action plans, while allowing for flexibility; and (3) clarify the actions that the Commission may take on an IRP filing.”

These are excellent reasons for supporting this effort. It shows that despite being adversaries generally in PSC hearings, as I told the Sierra Club attorney in a rate case hearing in October 2023, “We don’t always have to oppose one another.”

Of course the end goal of the Sierra Club and me are very different. They hope to use the more formal process to press for elimination of thermal generation. My goal is to avoid getting on a reckless path of system evolution. Without a formal process for IRP review, and as the Sierra Club says “(2) require specificity in action plans” the evolution of the energy system becomes dependent on piecemeal efforts through applications and hearings for a Certificate of Public Necessity and Convenience of capital projects or General Rate Cases. Such efforts can even disguise how an order approving a capital project may eventually impact a subsequent General Rate Case.

Examples drawn from IRPs

IRPs are generally very large documents provided possibly in multiple volumes – perhaps a thousand pages in total. They have sections discussing the complicated operational environment that utilities must navigate. A person will gain some sympathy for the utility by reading them.

Definitions may change from one IRP to subsequent ones. Though Wyoming has no formal review process at present, our utility has acknowledged past errors in IRPs and has made corrections. However, there is no evidence that public statements are evaluated by the utility and the corrections only appear to have come from submissions made on the utility’s official comment forms – an inconvenient route.

Something an IRP ought to be able to do is demonstrate that the utility is able to supply adequate power with the resources they claim to have or plan to have. Table 1 is from the draft of a recent (2025) IRP. It lists generating resources that a utility claims to have in 2025 and what it projects to have in years ahead without adding new resources. Then, in a later portion of the IRP the utility will add what they consider their preferred adjustments to resources.

Definitions are all important in this endeavor. In the 2025 draft IRP our utility takes numbers from the Western Resource Adequacy Program (WRAP). In contrast to earlier versions of the IRP this has added additional opaqueness and contributes to the variability of estimates.

Figure 1, Table 1

The resource categories are listed in units of MW. Once again these values are supplied by WRAP in the 2025 IRP, but they are very close to seasonal average capacity of resources that can be dispatched. Resources not capable of arbitrary dispatch, on the other hand, were in the 2023 IRP calculated by their contribution in the highest 5% intervals of demand.In other words, a sort of effective load carrying capacity (ELCC). They are now specified by WRAP but are close to earlier (ELCC) values. Despite these values being greatly depreciated, this depreciated value does not escape the inconvenient fact that wind can go to zero in any season, and solar goes to zero after hours. Figure 2 shows a week of generation by source in PACE. Note the several periods, denoted by red arrows, where wind drops to values ranging from 50MW to 200MW, well below even the heavily deprecated values (ELCC) assumed in Figure 1.

Figure 2.

Obviously wind/solar present great difficulty determining resources that can be counted upon for purposes of meeting demand.

Note that one of the resource categories is “storage”. One does not store power; one stores energy. The units of this category should be megawatt hours (MWhr). However the table adds it to the other resources to determine an existing deliverable resource despite its different units. Despite violating the idea of “units”, the 2023 IRP justified the violation, thusly:

“…Certain resource types have duration limits, such that while they could be called upon in any given hour, they cannot be called upon continuously for more than specified duration. Such resources include energy storage, such as batteries or pumped hydro, as well as demand response programs and contracts, which generally have limits on consecutive hours, hours per day, and/or hours per year. As a result, while these resources are available in every hour, they are limited in how often they can be called upon for energy….These operating reserve requirements are part of the load and resource balance, and because they do not require

frequent energy dispatch, duration-limited resources are assumed to be able to provide operating reserves continuously.”

Briefly stated, the utility admits the error of what they are doing, but they do it anyway, simply because these resources are supposedly not used often. How and where does one make the transition from this thinking to handling the eventual situation when these time limited assets, along with non-dispatchable assets, come to dominate the generating mix?

Now, to the point of why adding resources of different units is simply wrong, the 939 MW of

storage which has suddenly appeared in year 2026 in Figure 1, is most likely a four-hour resource; i.e. 3,756 MW hours of energy. Since total load is listed in this table as roughly 8,000MW, the listed storage can supply only 28 minutes of system demand, but we don’t really know. In other words, adding storage as though it acts like a generation resource brings an incalculable and probabilistic element of time into the table. There is a time period over which the reserve calculation that depends on storage might be valid, but we don’t have a way to really know what it is. Adding quantities of differing units makes it seem in Table 1 like there is reasonable reserve margin, when that might be an illusion.

This carelessness of units appears in many places in IRPs, some of which are difficult to recognize. Figure 3 shows a graph of generation mix over time from a 2019 IRP with the same issue in disguise.

Figure 3

Adequacy and reserves issues

Figures 1-3 bring up a problem with resource adequacy. Perhaps the best indicator of whether or not a utility has adequate generation is its reserve margin. Using some ancillary data available from EIA suggests inadequacy in Table 1 figures. Remember that the load figure comes from WRAP. This is from data typical of July, but Figure 4 shows this to be close to an average value for the summer months. System demand or load is listed as 7,734MW and 7,485 after adjustment for actual obligations. Actual demand data from Mid-July to mid-August from EIA looks to average value 7,400MW, but there is a ±20% daily variation.

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Figure 4.

Both the 2023 and 2025 IRPs define Planning Reserve Margin as:

“…an increase to the obligation to ensure that there will be sufficient capacity available on the system to manage uncertain events (i.e., weather, outages) and known requirements (i.e., operating reserves).”

Thus, it appears to represent a margin against contingencies as well as variation in operation. In the 2023 IRP the utility used 13%, but in the 2025 IRP WRAP has supplied the value first as 14.4% in one draft, then 16.8% in another. Who specifies odd reserve margins like 14.4% and 16.8%? These odd values are best explained as following from the North American Energy Reliability Council’s (NERC) definition of planning reserve margin which is calculated using observations

Planning Reserve Margin = (Resources – Obligations)/(Obligations) X 100% 

Table 1 makes obvious use of this definition in the column for 2025 – 7,485MW X 14.4% equals 1078MW. Unfortunately this idea conflicts entirely with what the utility stated in their understanding of reserve margin.There are conflicting definitions of margin, here. Figure 4 shows that every day the peak demand for electrical energy runs well over the stated resource of 8,373MW. Thus, each day at some point there appears no reserve margin is left. Why don’t we see trouble every day, then? That is probably a function of interarea exchanges of power.[1]

What might a more useful definition of reserve margin entail?

To provide some cover for unanticipated contingencies, planning might look at resources that can be counted upon, say 95% of the time, demands that are exceeded only 5% of the time. Thus, one is looking at extremes in both generation or loads rather than averages, to cover contingencies of the outage/weather sort.

There is one more item to touch upon that relates to adequacy. The utility justified ignoring the usual rule that adding quantities with differing units together is not correct by stating that these resources are rarely used. Yet, within the IRP those same resources come to dominate the generation mix as Figure 3 shows by adding together storage plus DSM resources. As Margaret Thatcher would say “Something is logically suspect.”

The future doesn’t seem to arrive

The 2025 IRP, Table 1 in this essay, shows a declining assessment of power supply margins, year by year, through the study period. One can also see this same trend in earlier IRP versions. Yet, the trouble associated with declining margins doesn’t arrive. At the same time there is, within the preferred resource mix predicted in each IRP, a transition that doesn’t arrive. That sharp edge of energy transition in Figure 3 beginning in 2027 propagates forward as a wave too.

The utility explains this anomaly thusly:

“The rolling nature of each year’s outcome tells us that while declining reserve margins are important, the trend line is rarely followed from one year to the next. Rather, the trend line tends to be pushed forward like a wave, where the future shortage is not allowed to materialize because of cumulative actions taken within the WECC in recognition of future need.”

I have no idea whether to credit the WECC entirely, I would hope not as that speaks poorly of the utility’s planning themselves, but rather, if one looks at successive IRPs, the utility is slow-walking the closure of thermal power plants. There is an implicit admission that we can’t dispose of thermal power, yet a stubborn refusal to confront the realities of so-called renewables. 

Mistakes that should have been found in proofreading

Enormous documents like these IRPs require a great deal of proofreading to catch and remove not just typographical errors, but errors that impact planning. For example Figure 5 shows highlights of goals from a 2023 IRP looked like this:

Figure 5

One could argue that a plan with total savings from energy efficiency that are two-thirds of present loads, or 1,240MW of the mysterious non-emitting peaking resources which are actually yet uninvented (although burning hydrogen is mentioned), are not realistic. Or even ask what the actual MWhr of battery storage is and how this will impact demand.  Yet, the entry that jumped out at me was the 500MW now, and 1,000MW later of the advanced nuclear reactor.

Back when this 2023 IRP was ripe for release, I had just recently spoken to the CEO of TerraPower and learned that this reactor design is 1,000MWt (thermal), 350MWe (electric); so, this plan overstates the nuclear component of generation by more than one full reactor for each three built. The accumulation of errors like this can badly skew plans when the plans, themselves, rely on so many components.

In the 2025 IRP these reactors are replaced with a 300MW (electric presumably) design. I have no idea what this is.

Conclusions

IRPs are useful for illustrating the complex environment utilities are forced to grapple with. They can illuminate the culture of thinking at the utility.

I have cited a few examples to show that IRPs also commonly have typos, errors, misstatements, apparent failures of logic and conformance with data, a stubbornness of the utility to confront the reality of non-dispatchable generation, and other flaws. The enormity of these efforts almost demand improvement by having many eyes examine them. A formal process beginning with an application for approval, then having public hearings, making the utility address concerns, and issuing a final order approving the IRP would do a lot of good in this regard. It might expose the energy fabulism of the Sierra Club.[2] I hope it could convince the PSC that when it comes to what is central about public supplies of energy, it actually still is your grandfather’s PSC.

Notes and References:

1- In a PSC hearing in early March I pointed out that in the previous week there were three days out of seven when wind energy was essentially nonperforming, when obligations to export power to other balancing areas continued, and it seemed that we were importing unusually large amounts of power from the Western Area Power Administration. In turn, I showed data that the power mix at WAPA contained no wind power either, and that we were importing coal fired thermal power.  There is reluctance to face such complications plaguing renewable energy.

2- Fabulism, in literature, is a genre that blends fantastical elements with everyday settings. What better describes the progressive view of energy?

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Editor
August 22, 2025 6:15 pm

Coal fired power can back up coal fired power. Ditto gas, nuclear, even hydro. Wind cannot back up wind. Solar cannot back up solar. Doesn’t that matter too?

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  Mike Jonas
August 22, 2025 7:08 pm

Of course these considerations matter, but utilities are caught in a web of politics, regulation, and their own thinking. As long as the PSC and utilities aren’t made to address the real flaws in these IRPs through a formal process then we aren’t going to see more realistic future plans and instead unrealistic projections of everything will just be pushed further into the future and make the inevitable adjustments more painful. More realistic means, in my mind, an admission of continued dominate reliance on thermal plants (eventually including nuclear). But coal, I think is necessary because gas has transportation and storage issues, as well as price volatility that complicates planning and projection of future prices.

Tom Halla
August 22, 2025 6:53 pm

The question is how to discount intermittent sources. My suggestion would be to count them at three standard deviations below
their mean output.

Reply to  Tom Halla
August 22, 2025 7:09 pm

They contribution is negative unless the grid has perched water storage limited hydro capacity that is more than the rated capacity of the intermittence..

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 22, 2025 7:40 pm

What you are saying then is rate them at what we could expect them to contribute 99.7% of the time which is zero, and that is probably a suitably prudent course. I once calculated the two-sigma 95% value, nationwide, as being around a capacity factor of 7% and a few utilities use an ELCC of 10%. But even 7% is too generous as the title figure demonstrates.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Kevin Kilty
August 22, 2025 7:43 pm

You are assuming a normal distribution, but I did mean something between bupkis and effing nothing.

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 22, 2025 7:48 pm

I don’t know what distribution my 95% figure actually follows because I calculated the power I could count on 95% of the time during the periods of highest 25% of demand. It’s a product of two distributions of some sort, but I used actual EIA data.

KevinM
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 22, 2025 8:22 pm

“My suggestion would be to count them at three standard deviations below their mean output.”

Is there a technical reason? I know stats and what a standard deviation is, but I don’t see why that number is an optimal one.

Tom Halla
Reply to  KevinM
August 22, 2025 8:35 pm

It is a geeky way of saying, some value, but not anything to be counted on.

KevinM
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 22, 2025 8:54 pm

Good enough. I don’t have a better suggestion.

Editor
Reply to  Tom Halla
August 22, 2025 10:28 pm

I think the best way to plan for intermittent sources is to treat them exactly as they are. IOW, plan for the intermittency. That way, instead of just looking at total generation vs total demand, or applying some general formula, look at the sort of patterns that proposed methods of generation are likely to deliver, and say how they would be handled.

So, for example, the plan could be that there is always some spare coal/gas/nuclear capacity for when a coal/gas/nuclear plant is down for maintenance. Similarly, when solar or wind fails, with or without warning, that there is enough spare rapid-start (ie, gas) capacity to replace it for as long as needed. Then they should work out, from the possible and probable wind and solar patterns, how much wind and solar capacity they can install before the total cost starts to increase. Some people might think that is zero, but rather than assume anything why not do the actual calculations and report them in a published plan. Once that has been done, it shouldn’t be too difficult to update the calculations every year or as required.

Actually, it seems strange that enormous sums have been invested, without those calculations ever having been done. Note: If they were done but were just not published, then they must have shown that wind and solar were uneconomic, otherwise they surely would have published them.

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  Mike Jonas
August 23, 2025 3:32 am

At one time a utility would identify some fixed number, based probably on experience, like 20% say, as a reserve and make sure it was always available.

The first flaw in this simple picture is “based on experience”. There is little experience available regarding the mixture of dispatchable, non-dispatchable, and non-generating assets being assembled into a system. We are abandoning the systems engineering learned by working with a system of truly dispatchable generators and what we have to replace it at present is simulation.

Reply to  Kevin Kilty
August 23, 2025 4:23 pm

Really the only way to evaluate grids with lots of renewables is indeed simulation. It needs to be at at least hourly resolution, and cover a many year weather history. I’ve done this kind of work – in fact I did much the same as the Royal Society did (only a couple of years earlier than they did) when they showed that the UK would need over 100TWh of storage for a renewables dominated grid.

It’s important there is no cheating in the weather history. Modelled weather generated from probability distributions never captures how real weather behaves. You have to go back to re-analysis of e.g. MERRA-2 locational data, tying it back to actual generation history where available. Also, don’t let the analysis hide behind assumed demand response. If there’s a shortfall, demand or storage or out of area supply need to be shown to be realistically available case by case. If periods relying on these are frequent or large the system is unsustainable.

Reply to  Tom Halla
August 23, 2025 7:59 am

The real question is AFFORDING wind and solar. There is an 11 c/kWh adder ON TOP OF 50% subsidies.
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HIGH COST/kWh OF W/S SYSTEMS FOISTED ONTO A BRAINWASHED PUBLIC 
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/high-cost-kwh-of-w-s-systems-foisted-onto-a-brainwashed-public-1
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People are brainwashed to love wind and solar. They do not know by how much they screw themselves by voting for the woke folks who push them onto everyone. Their ignorance is exploited by the woke folks
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This comment presents an A-to-Z picture to show the extent of the screwing. 
Very few know how to create such an overview, even less have the freedom to show it to others.
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Western countries cajoling Third World countries in the Wind/Solar direction, and loaning them money to do so, will forever re-establish a colonial-style bondage on those recently free countries.
 
What is generally not known, the more weather-dependent W/S systems, the less efficient the traditional generators, as they inefficiently counteract the increasingly larger ups and downs of W/S output. See URL
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/fuel-and-co2-reductions-due-to-wind-energy-less-than-claimed
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W/S systems add great cost to the overall delivery of electricity to users; the more W/S systems, the higher the cost/kWh, as proven by the UK and Germany, with the highest electricity rates in Europe, and near-zero, real-growth GDP.
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At about 30% W/S, the entire system hits an increasingly thicker concrete wall, operationally and cost wise.
The UK and Germany are hitting the wall, more and more hours each day.
The cost of electricity delivered to users increased with each additional W/S/B system
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Nuclear, gas, coal and reservoir hydro plants are the only rational way forward.
Ignore CO2, because greater CO2 ppm in atmosphere is essential for: 1) increased green flora to increase fauna all over the world, and 2) increased crop yields to better feed 8 billion people.
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Net-zero by 2050 to-reduce CO2 is a super-expensive suicide pact, to increase command/control by governments, and enable the moneyed elites to get richer, at the expense of all others, by using the foghorn of the government-subsidized/controlled Corporate Media to spread scare-mongering slogans and brainwash people.
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Subsidies shift costs from project Owners to ratepayers, taxpayers, government debt:
1) Federal and state tax credits, up to 50% (Community tax credit of 10 percent – Federal tax credit of 30 percent – State tax credit and other incentives of up to 10%);
2) 5-y Accelerated Depreciation write off of the entire project;
3) Loan interest deduction
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Utilities pay 15 c/kWh, wholesale, after 50% subsidies, for electricity from fixed offshore wind systems
Utilities pay 18 c/kWh, wholesale, after 50% subsidies, for electricity from floating offshore wind
Utilities pay 12 c/kWh, wholesale, after 50% subsidies, for electricity from larger solar systems
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Excluded costs, at a future 30% W/S annual penetration on the grid, based on UK and German experience: 
– Onshore grid expansion/reinforcement to connect distributed W/S systems, about 2 c/kWh
– A fleet of traditional power plants to quickly counteract W/S variable output, on a less than minute-by-minute basis, 24/7/365, which leads to more Btu/kWh, more CO2/kWh, more cost of about 2 c/kWh
– A fleet of traditional power plants to provide electricity during 1) low-wind periods, 2) high-wind periods, when rotors are locked in place, and 3) low solar periods during mornings, evenings, at night, snow/ice on panels, which leads to more Btu/kWh, more CO2/kWh, more cost of about 2 c/kWh
– Pay W/S system Owners for electricity they could have produced, if not curtailed, about 1 c/kWh
– Importing electricity at high prices, when W/S output is low, 1 c/kWh
– Exporting electricity at low prices, when W/S output is high, 1 c/kWh
– Disassembly on land and at sea, reprocessing and storing at hazardous waste sites, about 2 c/kWh
Total ADDER 2 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 2 = 11 c/kWh
Some of these values exponentially increase as more W/S systems are added to the grid
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The economic/financial insanity and environmental damage of it all is off the charts.
No wonder Europe’s near-zero, real-growth GDP is in de-growth mode.
That economy has been tied into knots by inane people.
 
Remove your subsidy dollars using your vote, and none of these projects would be built, and your electric bills would be lower.
Ban Corrupt Mail-in Ballots and corruptible Voting Machines; No Valid ID, No Vote.

August 22, 2025 7:00 pm

The Sierra Club thrives on litigation. Allowing “contested case procedures” is a Pandora’s Box that will never be closed again. Sue sue sue sue sue.The PSC will be tied in knots. Extortion will result. Do not open that box, Kevin. You’ll regret it forever. Don’t make deals with the Devil.

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  OR For
August 22, 2025 7:19 pm

I understand the concern, but I think the risks of lawsuits and even extortion rise as long as erroneous projections, erroneous and unphysical generation mixes, and other error stand unchallenged. A formal process should make everything more transparent. Besides I am but a small input into the final decision on a formal process. The Office of Consumer Advocate (OCA) will probably carry most weight and their view is much like mine.

KevinM
August 22, 2025 8:17 pm

I am saying that it is easy for a person, very competent in a particular niche within an organization, to not competently understand the particulars of another niche within the enterprise nor even the business as a whole.”

Thought: This guy has seen how a company works.

Utilities should be required to submit a formal application requesting Commission approval of their IRP.”

Thought: Oh no! Who are these tireless, qualified, non-rent-seeking, dedicated smart people on the commission, and how have the power companies failed to hire them?

The trouble with jobs on approval commisions are patronage and regulatory capture. I have not yet Googled the personal bios of the current commisioners, but I expect to find:
1) Retired power company managers
2) Politically connected donors

August 22, 2025 9:38 pm

What are a few typos among friends. Take it as a mark of how well you were educated that you can note the typos. But the authors weren’t even, apparently, bothered to run spell-check.

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
August 23, 2025 3:15 am

Typos are a distraction when reading and sometimes they make a passage difficult to understand, but there are errors within these IRPs in places that render them incoherent without some people involved recognizing the incoherence. A formal public process would put more eyes on the document and either identify the errors directly or ask questions alerting others to them.

The most glaring example is to have 25% of one’s generation mix in the future represented by things that aren’t generators at all (storage and DSM), but appear as such because they are added to true generators in a large, complicated table or, in a way that is even more disguised, as in a graph. This stuff persists through successive IRPs.

Luke Williams
August 23, 2025 12:58 am

The inclusion of storage as a generation source is silly as you point out. Especially the assumption that it’s capable of continuous supply (which quite frankly was startling to read).

Worse than that though, storage, whether battery or pumped hydro, has to be recharged. Where is the jump in load from storage going from 1MW to 1GW in the 2025-2026 figures? Arguably, if storage is to be included as a generation source for long term average figures, it either should be listed as a negative or the estimated load should be increased to compensate.

Unless I’ve missed something.

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  Luke Williams
August 23, 2025 7:10 am

If you read how they justify adding storage as a continuous source to the generation side of their ledger, you can just about figure their logic in leaving it out of the demand side. In effect they might say “we use it so infrequently that to keep it charge we can trickle the charge in imperceptibly.” Something like that.

Luke Williams
Reply to  Kevin Kilty
August 23, 2025 7:49 am

Ah, so it’s energy from nowhere. Goes out, never comes in. Thank you.

I can guarantee I will never read the report.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Kevin Kilty
August 23, 2025 9:15 am

Kevin Kilty: “If you read how they justify adding storage as a continuous source to the generation side of their ledger, you can just about figure their logic in leaving it out of the demand side. In effect they might say “we use it so infrequently that to keep it charge we can trickle the charge in imperceptibly.” Something like that.”

The Western Interconnection embodies 38 areas of load balancing authority. The BPA is one, Cal ISO is another, and PacificCorp is the load balancing authority in western Wyoming, eastern Idaho, and all of Utah.

Let’s note that the Western Electricity Coordination Council (WECC) is in the process of implementing a rule that any excess power delivery capacity in an Area of Load Balancing Authority operating inside a specified timeframe of reference — an hour or a day for example — must be made available on demand to the Western Interconnection for use in real time by other areas of load balancing authority.

Under the guise of “the sun is always shining somewhere, the wind is always blowing somewhere”, one of those uses might be to use excess solar power being generated in say, Nevada, for charging grid-scale batteries located in western Wyoming. PacificCorp stores the energy in batteries when there is an excess of power available from the grid at a cheap price, and then sells it back at a profit when other areas of load balancing authority need it.

Wind and solar advocates in the US Northwest are pushing hard for establishment of a regional RTO which includes the four states covered by the Northwest Power and Conservation Council — Oregon, Idaho, Montana, and Washington — to coordinate the move into a wind and solar future.

But there is this problem. The intense levels of planning and coordination needed to see a wind and solar future must extend to the entire Western Interconnection as a whole, not just to those parts of it located in Oregon, Idaho, Montana, and Washington.

The only way this happens is that the Western Interconnection must become a single unified RTO with central real-time coordination supplied from a centralized control authority.

In today’s world, IRP’s are to some large extent a paper-chasing exercise produced in response to an earlier and now partially displaced form of electricity regulation philosophy.

These IRP’s do have informational value for some purposes. But if the Western Interconnection ever became a single RTO under a centralized project planning & control authority, then the individual utility IRP’s would have little value as stand alone documents.

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  Beta Blocker
August 23, 2025 9:27 am

An interesting perspective as always, BB. What you are saying, in effect, is that Wyoming’s move to formalize the process is late, like shutting the pasture gate after all the livestock have left to chase greener grass elsewhere.

I have been disappointed by reading these IRPs since about 2019 because the whole effort involved papering over the incoherence of a totally wind/solar generating fleet — thus, there never has been a viable plan in view.

I am very concerned about a unified energy market in the West because of the great disparity in ability to pay for energy (compare California to parts of New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming) in combination with the most valuable of the surviving dispatchable assets being located mainly in those same areas. When supplies become tight the bidding will be interesting to say the least.

August 23, 2025 4:10 am

Good review and analysis, here, Kevin. It may take painful curtailments, rolling blackouts, and perhaps even worse failures, to correct the misguided “planning” approach to give any capacity credit at all to wind and solar sources and to short-term storage.

But this really struck me:
“For example… the Chair of the Wyoming PSC stating at an energy conference that… the “PSC would never again approve a project that would release CO2 into the atmosphere.””

These officials who have gone off the deep end are Exhibit A of the adverse consequences of agenda-driven “research” and the media-amplified conditioning of public opinion.

As you know, one aim of mine recently has been to show directly that it has been unsound all along to expect emissions of CO2 to drive “warming” or any trend of any climate-related variable. So my comment to EPA on its proposed rule to rescind the 2009 Endangerment Finding, posted Thursday, continues along these lines.
https://www.regulations.gov/comment/EPA-HQ-OAR-2025-0194-0305

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  David Dibbell
August 23, 2025 9:40 am

https://psc.wyo.gov/home

chair is a law/politics grifter.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
August 23, 2025 9:43 am
August 23, 2025 5:11 am

“I am not suggesting these people are incompetent in any way.”

Maybe time to say it!

Dave Fair
August 23, 2025 9:50 am

As a former Electric System Planning Engineer I can assure you that these are not Integrated Resource Plans: They are more akin to ‘Stagger Forward Bi-Annually Hoping Our Old Shit Continues To Work Lack-Of-Plans And Our Political Masters Don’t Fire Us.’

Curious George
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 23, 2025 11:24 am

So-called “plans” are how the bureaucracy (paper pushers) keep themselves busy.

Bob
August 23, 2025 6:31 pm

“A number of people who comment and blog regularly at WUWT, the Manhattan Contrarian and other websites that allow broad opinions on climate and energy, have mixed views about the worth of Integrated Resource Plans (IRPs) that utilities are commanded to produce every two years.”

Kevin just from reading your experience with IRPs I would say people have good reason to have mixed views about IRPs. The point is if there are mistakes or misinformation in an IRP then that IRP is worth less than one not containing mistakes or misinformation. Additionally what actions are being required of the utility by the PSC or other government agency? Are they trying to take into account resources such as storage, wind and solar that government agencies have told them they must add? And what about the guy who said he had every intention of forcing less and less fossil fuel. Does he have influence on what goes into the IRP? Or does he have the power or ability to disregard the IRP?

The IRPs appear to be required so they aren’t going anywhere but for them to be meaningful they must be honest and correct, not some fairytale someone else is looking for.

As for the issue of storage it should not be listed as a resource but rather listed separately but with the list of resources with a clear estimate of how long they can furnish quality backup.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Bob
August 25, 2025 9:15 am

And how long to recharge to be able to furnish the quality backup.

If the system can provide 4 hours of quality backup but requires 20 hours to recharge it is only available once per day. If more than 4 hours is the reality, it fails. If 4 hour backup happens more than once per day, it fails. And so on.