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Essay by Eric Worrall
“… We obviously want China and all countries indeed to move away from fossil fuels …”
Ed Miliband vows to engage with China on climate after Tory ‘negligence’
Energy security and net zero secretary travels to Beijing for countries’ first formal climate meetings since 2017
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Miliband stressed that “the world is way off track from where we need to be” before the Cop30 UN climate summit in Brazil in November. He said that in his first eight months as secretary of state, he had visited Brazil, India and China, showing that “Britain is back as a climate leader” on the world stage. The UK is hoping to shape a new global axis in favour of climate action along with China and developing countries, to counter Donald Trump’s abandonment of green policies in the US.
…Miliband said: “The issue of forced labour is absolutely something I’ve raised and it is a concern in the UK … I raised it with my Chinese hosts.” He said China “will continue to play a really important role in solar production”.
…… Beijing remains committed to coal, and recently pledged “increase coal production and supply capacity” to ensure energy security.
“We obviously want China and all countries indeed to move away from fossil fuels,” Miliband said. He said that he believed …
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/mar/17/ed-miliband-vows-to-engage-with-china-on-climate-after-tory-negligence
I’m confused. If China is not doing anything substantial to reduce emissions, and even the Guardian admits China is openly committed to building more coal, what did the mission actually achieve?
How bad will it have to get in the UK before the peasants revolt? I hope 47 provides the synergy required.
I wish I knew
I’m surprised nobody said it before – “Peasants are always revolting”.
Tish-boom!
AKA deplorables?
Poor sucker Ed Miliband. That Britain should lead a group to counter Trump’s rejection of the Paris Agreement is so full of nonsenses that I don’t have the words to describe it. Judt one question- what has the Paris Agreement achieved
Massive fraud in the Maldives (No sea level rise beyond that continuing from the last ice age) and Paris money spent on five beach level airports there, fraudulent climate science still being published and Michael Mann now likely to have sell assets.
His Holiness, Michael Mann, has shown a great ability to drag out court cases. Going after who is funding his legal bills might be more productive.
They have agreed that this meeting was important. A reference point as it were. Im not saying a reference point to…what!😊
‘Miliband stressed that “the world is way off track from where we need to be” before the Cop30 UN climate summit in Brazil in November.’
Not to worry, Brazil is bulldozing a new ‘track’ through the rain forest as he speaks.
Atmospherics?
Ask not what China is doing for the Climate.
Ask instead what the Climate is doing for China.
China is doing as much for climate as Biden-Harris have done for the border 🙂
Btw – not so long ago the british said that the Mi6 is closely watching China in terms of co2 output.(why should any secret service be interested in climate?except the secret service is controlled by a cabal with global ambitions and not by&for the people)
Therefore China is investing climate funds in avoiding the typical Anglo-Saxon made regime change.
They still remember the opium wars.
“I’m confused. If China is not doing anything substantial to reduce emissions, and even the Guardian admits China is openly committed to building more coal, what did the mission actually achieve?”
It is appears parallel to President Obama’s move in 2014:
“Building on strong progress during the first six years of the Administration, today President Obama announced a new target to cut net greenhouse gas emissions 26-28 percent below 2005 levels by 2025. At the same time, President Xi Jinping of China announced targets to peak CO2 emissions around 2030, with the intention to try to peak early, and to increase the non-fossil fuel share of all energy to around 20 percent by 2030.”
Source
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/11/11/fact-sheet-us-china-joint-announcement-climate-change-and-clean-energy-c
Obviously it has nothing to do with the “climate.”
The U.S. has changed course from this sort of unilateral capitulation. I feel very bad for the UK right now.
“I feel very bad for the UK right now.”
I do, too. Their leaders are delusional.
Miliband seems to think of himself as the one that’s going to put this Net Zero World back in order.
It’s not going to happen, Ed. You and the UK are all out there by yourselves. Nobody is listening to Net Zero anymore. Nobody with any brains anyway.
Nobody with any brains EVER listened to net zero stupidity.
Unfortunatley Australia has its own millibrand clone with similar lack of brains.
Yet there are other sites where commenters state that China is leading the way in its transition using solar, wind and hydro. As longs as they have such cheerleaders, the myth will continue
Agreed. In my view, China understands the propaganda value of their extensive solar and wind installations, and they are willing to pay the price for it.
Remember China has 50 cities with 65m empty homes..A few hundred unconnected solar plants and wind farms are nothing in comparison.
Poor sucker Ed Miliband. That Britain should lead a group to counter Trump’s rejection of the Paris Agreement is so full of nonsenses that I don’t have the words to describe it. Just one question- what has the Paris Agreement achieved?
You can say that again.
What has the Paris Agreement achieved?
Airmiles.
Agreeable conferences [with nice restaurants, and mutually satisfactory meetings with persons of negotiable affection].
Pension contributions.
What more is needed?
Changes to the Laws of Physics?
Auto
It’s made a whole bunch of troughers richer.
Near destruction of the European, UK and Commonweath satellite economies- that’s all! The climate death wish has claimed many lives, it’s time some more socialist politicians put themselves in the climate grave. Milbrand is overdue- come in no 7.
I was responding to “You can say that again” so I did.
Eric,
I like the lead graphic – maybe sometime you can ‘AI’ another one showing Xi shooting fish in a barrel.
I wonder what controlled demolition of the west would look like if it wasn’t this.
I wonder when Ed Miliband will realise when he speaks about anything but particularly wen talking about climate change and Green energy, he is talking to an empty room?
The man is living in a dream world of make believe. Hs trip to China is yet an0ther example f pointless expenditure on pointless matters that China has no intention of involving itself in.
The UK’s energy costs are multiples of what China’s are that is why China is making things and growing its economy while we in the U|K are shrinking our manufacturing and our standard of living not to mention a shrinking economy despite millions and millions of new migrants in the workforce. It is quite possible all those millions of new arrivals are not in fact working….
Leftism-marxism=mental derangement.
The chinese approach: we’ll build solar panels, wind turbines and batteries, you buy them. Deal? Everybody happy!
Apart from that, China is investing in technology like no other country and hope to add future technology to existing. Hopefully the use of coal, oil and gas can be diminished over time. It remains to be seen. Meanwhile they are not burning bridges until they’ve built the new ones..as every country should..
Why do you want to diminish the use of coal, oil and gas?
What harm are they doing?
Why is a reduction in the use of ENERGY (read: coal, oil and gas) “hopeful?”
Unless you’re pining for the simple times…
of THE STONE AGE.
I was aiming for increased efficiency with the use of less particulates, ie less waste. Per unit. Nuclear would help as would any future technology not based on hydrocarbons.
Wind and solar energy are obviously not the answer.So, yes, i am hoping for the best.
I dont particularly like emptying the ashtray of my stove, or the soot in my chimney. Or the fumes out of my car exhaust. Nor do i enjoy the smog hanging over the wee village i live in Ireland.
Very real environmental concerns that have absolutely nothing to do with the 30 year running average of weather (aka climate).
I am fairly sure the CCP regards Milliband as just another White Left (baiguo?) fool.
That’s what he is.
Miliband has a prodigious ego, sufficient to completely overwhelm any understanding he may have deep within himself about the correctness of his climate actions. He seems to be the perfect picture of an egomaniac.
Miliband’s ego tells him *he* should be the one leading the world out of the CO2 Darkness.
Meanwhile, here in REALITY, idiots like him are leading people INTO (or keeping them IN) darkness.
He’s going to save the world and then go to heaven in glory! He is as bad as those Muslim terrorist dudes with their reward of paradise Houries.
I apologise for my country. I didn’t vote for this lunacy by Britain.
We will soon be completely bankrupt and so please laugh at us and teach your children the folly of Net Zero.
I didn’t vote for it and I’m not going to apologise for it.
what did the mission actually achieve?
Virtue signaling.
“Britain is back as a climate leader”
China “will continue to play a really important role in solar production”
Translation: He wants China to view Britain favorably when it comes to delivering solar panels.
Ed Miliband… is a complete, total and utter numpty
I swap between thinking he’s calculating and evil, or completely insane, or an innumerate idiot personifying the saying a little learning is a dangerous thing ( he as a Physics A level from 35 years ago)
Given the amount of magical thinking that Flywheel Ed displays, I’m guessing that he scored very well on his OWLs.
Physics? You have got to be kidding.
Well, ramps, levers, and friction might have been covered. Did he get to heat and radiation?
I have a physics A level from… Let’s just agree it’s more than 35 years ago. That learning didn’t give me a proper understanding of the falicies in the CAGW hypotheses.
No, it was critical thinking, and an ability to research information and reason things out for myself that managed it. That’s what him and his ilk are missing.
The majority of us Brits are as thick as the proverbial two short planks.
I read earlier today that the sales of BYD EVs have overtaken Tesla because many people don’t like Musk’s politics and “fascism”. Don’t seem to care about China’s human rights, use of coal, exploiting developing countries for natural resources leaving all kinds of problems behind and the population no better off financially.
But not all….
Musk’s fascism?….rolls eyes, laughs, laughs harder, coughs, throws up…laughs some more. Wipes mouth.
Translation Musk doesn’t spend enough money on PR and run entire armies of disinformation units in countries to promote a positive image.
Some years ago, on another climate blog, I intimated that a certain person (a “world-famous climate scientist” was as thick as two short planks. The gentleman in question castigated me roundly, so I apologised, and said he was actually as thick as three short planks, which appeared to mollify him, and I wasn’t sent to the “Bore Hole” of the day.
True story, IMRIC.
To be a leader you need followers, any in sight?
He appears to be a solitary lemming.
““Britain is back as a climate leader” on the world stage. The UK is hoping to shape a new global axis in favour of climate action along with China and developing countries, to counter Donald Trump’s abandonment of green policies in the US.”
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Well, guess what? Germany is not abandoning spending on climate alarmism either….
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/germanys-likely-next-leader-wins-parliaments-backing-for-huge-defense-and-infrastructure-spending/ar-AA1BaKyf
“[Germany] foresees a 500-billion-euro ($544-billion) fund, financed by borrowing, to pour funding into Germany’s infrastructure over the next 12 years and help restore the stagnant economy — Europe’s biggest — to growth.
At the Greens’ insistence, 100 billion euros from the investment fund will go into climate-related spending.”
100 billion euros is 20% of the fund. Just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper Europe.
If they want to restore Germany’s economy, they should be building coal, natural gas and nuclear power plants as fast as possible, and scrap the windmills and solar.
The geniuses running Germany are doing just the opposite.
The windmills and solar are what caused the economic stagnation. Git rid of them! Wake up and smell the coffee!
Summary: Xi continues to chase western idiots towards the cliff while laughing at their gullibility behind their backs.
Communist China has no honor. Sadly that is no longer an insult in Communist China. Honor was an aspect of a culture the CCP has obliterated. Now the ruling principle is winning justifies anything.
Lots achieved, but only if he doesn’t come back……….
Just to show how p*** poor and misleading the temperature data is from which they base their claims about climate warming really is, then today’s been a great example here in North Lincolnshire.
The local AWS have been claiming that today’s max temperature has been between 11C to 11.4C. Yet my LIG thermometer only recorded the max temp as been 8.5C.
Is it little wonder that they can claim there is warming, when the current electronic thermometers are giving such a large increase in readings.
Even a brief perusal shows stations registering a max. in N.Linc. as low as 7 and as high as 11. After a cold night, with a cold sea and a strengthening sun; elevation, aspect, local breeze, and mist/cloud conditions will make a substantial difference in a small area.
I’ve had the same mercury thermometer in the same unchanged environs since the early 80s. Anyone that claims the UK climate hasn’t warmed considerably since then is in la la land.
As for Dead Minibrain, I heard he got off the plane and couldn’t find his wrist watch or wallet.
All the AWS l check are inland and are a mix of both rural and urban locations. While with the weather across the region having been sunny and bright. It’s been a ideal day to compare the temperature readings between the AWS and my thermometer.
In these conditions no way should there be such a large difference and it clearly shows the real issues with the current temperature data we are getting the from the AWS. When the sunshine falls on them and has such a large impact on their readings.
This has been thoroughly documented by various people. The anomalies pile up. It looks highly likely the northern hemisphere had some modest warming in the last 40 years. That’s a good thing.
It’s only since l started taking my own temperature readings. That l have become truely aware of the scale of the issues with AWS and the false impression they give of climate warming.
British leadership sucks.
The exchange of UK territories for political and financial coverage, of course. Operation Airstrip One almost complete. This is how belt-and-road works, you know. Labour welcomes their new CCP overlords.