Schadenfreude at Its Finest: Climate Grifters Cry Over Trump’s Grant Freeze

Oh, the humanity! The wine and cheese set over at Bloomberg has been thrown into full-blown hysteria because—brace yourselves—President Trump turned off the spigot of taxpayer cash that funds their sacred climate cult. Their headline reads like a lost script from The Handmaid’s Tale: “It’s Surreal: Trump’s Freeze on Climate Money Sows Fear and Confusion”​.

“Surreal”? What’s surreal is that these people think they have some divine right to an endless fountain of taxpayer money to fund their political activism disguised as “science.” Imagine a world where these people actually had to produce something of value rather than leech off the federal government. Terrifying, right?

A “Crisis” for the Climate Industrial Complex

Let’s set the scene: Trump waltzes back into office and, in a move that should have shocked exactly no one, hits the brakes on the Biden-era climate boondoggles like the Inflation Reduction Act (which, ironically, reduced inflation about as effectively as a gasoline shower puts out a fire). Millions of dollars in grants—aka your hard-earned money—suddenly vanish from the pockets of climate non-profits, academics, and other assorted grifters who had built their entire existence around government handouts​.

Bloomberg describes this as “confusion and panic.” Oh no! You mean these self-proclaimed geniuses who claim they can control the global temperature to within a fraction of a degree 100 years from now couldn’t foresee a Trump policy move that was as predictable as the sunrise? Not so bright after all, are they?

The World’s Saddest Sob Stories

The article parades out a cast of characters who are struggling to cope with the horrors of not being able to suckle at the federal teat. Let’s meet a few:

  • Alex Bomstein of the Clean Air Council, a nonprofit that apparently exists to ensure perpetual panic over air quality. He whines that his organization has been given “mixed messaging” about whether their taxpayer-funded cash flow is actually getting turned off​. Imagine the horror of having to operate like a normal business, unsure if revenue will be guaranteed forever.
  • Dominika Parry, CEO of 2C Mississippi, is devastated that her $gazillion climate grant might not materialize as expected​. Because when you think “Mississippi,” your first concern is clearly whether its climate nonprofit sector is fully funded.
  • David Funk, the president of an “energy consulting firm” in Washington state, had to furlough employees because the Department of Agriculture wouldn’t give him free money​. Perhaps he could explore this new concept called “selling a service people want to pay for.”
  • Laurence Smith, a professor at Brown University, says a postdoc under him couldn’t access her salary​. Let’s see if we’ve got this right: A researcher who relies entirely on government grants now finds herself in financial limbo because… the government stopped the grants? Almost like relying on endless taxpayer money is a bad career plan.

The Real Tragedy: Elites Losing Control

The real source of Bloomberg’s outrage isn’t about “science” or “the planet.” It’s that Trump is threatening the power structure these people have built. This isn’t about climate change—it’s about ensuring a permanent class of bureaucrats, nonprofits, and academics who depend on government cash to enforce their political will.

The article even admits that part of the panic is over how to “navigate grant-proposal language around climate change and DEI” since references to “environmental justice” might no longer win them easy government money​. They’re terrified that the political winds have shifted, and they’ll have to find new ways to trick bureaucrats into handing over cash.

Trump’s Masterstroke: Freezing the Cash Flow

The reason this move is so effective is that the left built their entire movement on financial dependency. They need government money. By contrast, Trump and his supporters don’t need a federal grant to believe in their ideas. When Trump shuts off the money hose, the left panics because they realize their institutions can’t survive without it.

Bloomberg’s solution? More lawsuits! Because if democracy doesn’t give them what they want, there’s always the judiciary​.

Conclusion: Glorious, Delicious Tears

This article is a masterpiece of unintended comedy. It’s a beautiful thing to watch people who have spent years lecturing the rest of us about “sustainability” suddenly find themselves unsustainable. The whole climate industry, it turns out, is just another bloated government-dependent bureaucracy. Without government cash, they’re toast.

Environmental researchers are still trying to figure out how to navigate grant-proposal language around climate change and DEI in light of the executive orders. Applications that previously would have benefitted from a focus on helping disadvantaged communities, environmental justice or inclusivity — seen as demonstrating broad impact — suddenly could be undermined by the same references.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-04/-it-s-surreal-trump-s-freeze-on-climate-money-sows-fear-and-confusion

So grab some popcorn, folks. The schadenfreude is strong with this one.

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Derg
February 5, 2025 10:09 am

I wonder how much USAID the climate grifters received over the years?

Reply to  Derg
February 5, 2025 10:35 am

I heard one report this morning that suggested that the Bidens benefited from USAID cash with their involvement in Haiti rebuilding(Joe’s brother).

The Clintons were also involved in Haiti but I have seen no evidence USAID gave them any money. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 5:10 am

After 35 years of increases, based on a scare-mongering CO2 hoax, money for climate “study” and elite W/S scammers has suddenly become as scarce as water to put out fires in California.

HOW COULD TRUMP DO THIS TO US? WE ARE THE ANOINTED CLASS! WE OWN OUR OWN SCIENCE!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 8:34 am

I have seen no evidence USAID gave them any money

Not directly. Clinton Foundation got USAID money.

Reply to  Tony_G
February 7, 2025 2:57 am

Did they? Well, then I would consider that to mean the Clintons got money from USAID.

Yep, we need a thorough investigation of every dollar spent. Lots of corruption going on.

Reply to  Derg
February 5, 2025 12:44 pm

Latest USAID scandal is that marx-stream media organs Politico and NY Times have been getting millions of federal dollars from the Bidenistas. Politico was suddenly unable to make payroll after the spending freeze went into effect.

Reply to  karlomonte
February 5, 2025 5:54 pm

Politico also received funds from The Department of the Interior, the Department of Energy and Department of Health and Human Services

DOGE cancels $8.2 million government payments to Politico

Reply to  bnice2000
February 6, 2025 3:11 am

Politico got a lot of news scoops (leaks from the government) and hammered Trump with them day after day after day.

I guess that’s what they got paid so well for. They did a good job of smearing President Trump.

Those Propaganda Organs of the Left need to get paid!

And in this case, it’s not some leftwing billionaire doing the paying, it’s the American taxpayer!

I want my money back!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 5:30 am

That taxpayer money has been safely hidden by recipients in numbered accounts in tax havens

Reply to  bnice2000
February 6, 2025 5:28 am

DOGE did not cancel. It BLOCKED
Then it alerted the cops
The cops cancelled

Reply to  karlomonte
February 6, 2025 5:23 am

USAID was used by the CIA/Deep State to foment Color Revolutions/Regime Changes throughout the world for at least 6 decades.

This was well known by all insiders, all Congress people.

They voted to increase budgets, so they could use the money to advance their policies, such as DEI, and feather the nests of NGO friends.

The entries on the USAID books often were false fronts for deception

The Musk team had no idea, until it looked into it
It was astounded by what it found

AN APPLE INFESTED WITH WORMS TOTALLY ROTTEN AND UNSALVAGEABLE.

Reply to  wilpost
February 6, 2025 7:02 am

Do you think Soros Inc. used his own money to fund his marxist political candidates?

Not a chance, it all came straight out of the federal government via triangle trade.

Reply to  karlomonte
February 7, 2025 3:06 am

Yeah, Little Soros made dozens of visits to the Biden White House.

They are thick as thieves.

Reply to  karlomonte
February 6, 2025 8:35 am

Politico and NY Times have been getting millions of federal dollars

And they scream “fascist” about Trump

Reply to  Tony_G
February 6, 2025 10:26 am

Indeed, along with shrieks of “the end of democracy”.

Reply to  Tony_G
February 7, 2025 3:08 am

“And they scream “fascist” about Trump”

They are paid very well to do so.

The Democrats are totally corrupt. And are a HUGE threat to the personal freedoms of all Americans because they are a threat to our form of government.

Reply to  Derg
February 5, 2025 1:49 pm

[Here] is one, DAI Global. They received 48 million from USAID since 2020, but I’m sure that’s just a drop in the ocean.

The Climate Scam (TM) is a subsidiary of Globalist Domination, Inc. heavily funded by the CIA’s banking arm, USAID.

Thankfully, the rug is being jerked out from beneath their cloven hooves as we speak. Attaboy Elon and the Donald.

Reply to  OR For
February 7, 2025 3:11 am

Speaking of the Climate Scam, I bet the EPA’s books look even worse than USAID’s books. Lots of money being spent on the Climate Scam.

Bill Parsons
Reply to  Derg
February 5, 2025 4:22 pm

I think USAID is just the tip of a very large iceberg of federal agencies giving money to climate causes. Woodchipper’s Ball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxyj432cpwI Woody Herman, 1939

Maybe that should be “bawl”.

Reply to  Bill Parsons
February 6, 2025 3:20 am

Definitely just the tip of the iceberg.

We are going to find this kind of waste, fraud and abuse in every government program.

Its about time we had an audit.

Trump is dismantling the Deep State right in front of their eyes and the Deep State is screaming Bloody Murder! The Democrats are coming unhinged. And all they can think about is fomenting violence as a response.

A majority of Americans support Trump. The Democrats are not just resisting Trump, they are resisting the majority of Americans. The Democrats will pay at the next election, as Trump succeeds, and the Democrats scream and flail.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 5:38 am

Damnocrats have no message that resonates with the
over-regulated, over-taxed, screwed-over American people

Trump’s Gaza gambit is a huge mistake.
A second “Riviera” on the Mediterranean requiring massive ethnic cleansing?
What in hell is he thinking?

Reply to  wilpost
February 6, 2025 8:38 am

That’s not the goal, that’s the grand overstatement to GET the goal. It’s a tactical use of the Overton Window in negotiation.

Reply to  Tony_G
February 7, 2025 3:17 am

“It’s a tactical use of the Overton Window in negotiation.”

That is the correct explanation.

Trump likes to shock people, and get them thinking and talking.

It’s the “Art of the Deal”.

Trump has no expectation that someone will sell him the Gaza Strip, and he has no intention of putting American troops in there, unless, of course, the hostages are not released, and then all bets are off.

The Arab nations will come up with a plan. Which is just what Trump wants them to do.

February 5, 2025 10:16 am

This grift has been going on for 50 years. It may be time to find a useful line of work.

ScienceABC123
Reply to  ringworldrefugee
February 5, 2025 2:46 pm

Perfect!

KevinM
Reply to  ringworldrefugee
February 5, 2025 4:38 pm

Imagine yourself or your kid graduating from a private college with an ecology degree this year.

Reply to  KevinM
February 6, 2025 5:40 am

Or “social studies”?

OweninGA
Reply to  ringworldrefugee
February 5, 2025 5:44 pm

They would, but they have no useful skills. Drawing straight lines through nonlinear data is not valued in any other field.

Having seen some of the code produced, I would say it is appropriate to tell them to “learn to code”.

February 5, 2025 10:21 am

I’ve been praying for this for years. Millions will have to get a real job😏

Reply to  schmoozer
February 5, 2025 12:10 pm

And now all the illegal immigrants are being deported, there will be plenty of jobs available. 🙂

And at the right level of aptitude.

Reply to  bnice2000
February 6, 2025 5:42 am

These countries get their workers back for free!
They should welcome them!

Greg61
Reply to  schmoozer
February 5, 2025 5:31 pm

They can pick the crops the illegals can’t do after their deported, win – win

Reply to  Greg61
February 6, 2025 5:44 am

Less than 5% of illegal pick crops

Reply to  wilpost
February 6, 2025 8:42 am

Yeah, but that’s the common complaint from the left – “Who will pick the crops?”

Where have we heard that before?

Tom Halla
February 5, 2025 10:24 am

I would defund the Climastrologists as being an establishment of religion. As they claim to have Revealed Truth that must not be examined, they are a religious movement, not science.
The environmentalists do have a definite Millenarian element, that unless one follows their dictates for ritual purity, like Net Zero, Armageddon is nigh. Who cares that one loses track of how many zeros to the right of the decimal point in degrees that would lower temperature worldwide, even assuming their models are valid?

Reply to  Tom Halla
February 5, 2025 10:48 am

The Republicans, thanks to Trump, are finally coming out publicly with ideas and policies that they can run on in future elections. This is important because the vast amount of money printing and reckless spending that has taken place since the 2008 financial crisis mean that another serious downturn is potentially looming. While such an event would normally play right into the hands of the Democrats and their media shills, the Republicans, if they can successfully demonstrate that they are the primary political agents of cultural, scientific and fiscal sanity, should be able to overcome the Left’s demagoguery.

Derg
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
February 5, 2025 12:42 pm

They will run on Medicare for all. They have no other choice. Despite Obamacare was their idea they will run on a giant freebie.

Reply to  Derg
February 5, 2025 2:14 pm

‘…they will run on a giant freebie.’

That’s always been the D’s MO. It’s worked very well over the years because the R’s only counters to giant domestic freebies were slightly smaller domestic freebies, a large dollup of foreign interventionism and a slew of empty promises to restore Constitutional government at some undefined future time.

Mac
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 5, 2025 1:55 pm

More Trump winning! On another note the Temperature in Albuquerque NM is supposed to break the record for the day set in 1963 of 69 degrees. Depending on where they record (the Rio Grande is at 5000ft MSL but the high foothills reach beyond 6000ft) it will be broken.
Wasn’t this just before the coming ice age of the 70’s? and of course before Global Warming, Climate Change or the other ridiculous names that have popped up over the years?

February 5, 2025 10:31 am

From the article: “The real source of Bloomberg’s outrage isn’t about “science” or “the planet.” It’s that Trump is threatening the power structure these people have built.”

Exactly.

They are squealing because Trump is taking their political power away from them.

Radical Democrats *are* the “Enemy Within”. Their greed and lust for political power is a danger to the rest of us. They lie, cheat and steal to get what they want, but Trump is putting an end to it, and the radical Democrats can’t handle it mentally. They want to lash out violently. They are unhinged.

When you don’t get what you want, you get angry. The radical Democrats are not getting what they want. That’s bad for them and good for the rest of us who no longer have to suffer from their radical Democrat insanity.

February 5, 2025 10:35 am

Charles you are a rotter!

Making fun of all those sensitive well meaning…
…grifters?
LOL!

Rud Istvan
February 5, 2025 10:36 am

It is a good start, but only a start. Much more to do on the ‘climate science’ front.

But at the pace 47 is moving, I expect a lot will happen. In a mere 16 days, 47

  1. DOGEd USAID.
  2. Offered a buyout to the bloated fed bureaucracy.
  3. Got 14A birthright citizenship on its way to SCOTUS.
  4. Got Panama to forego China’s BRI.
  5. Got Colombia and Venezuela to agree to take back illegal aliens.
  6. Opened Gitmo to hold 30k illegal alien criminals pending repatriation.
  7. Got Mexico and Canada to blink on securing the southern and northern borders.
  8. Suspended the ‘deminimus’ customs exception that mainly benefits China.
  9. Ripped DEI out of the federal government.
guidvce4
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 5, 2025 10:55 am

And, wait, there’s more. Can’t wait to see the rest of the adjustments to the feds. I wish someone would take vids of the employees exiting the buildings with their stuff. Fun times.

OweninGA
Reply to  guidvce4
February 5, 2025 5:48 pm

They can’t, the employees took all their stuff home in 2020 and haven’t been back to the office since.

Reply to  OweninGA
February 6, 2025 5:49 am

They will get 6 month buy outs while they stay at home, or move away to look for a real job

MarkW
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 5, 2025 11:20 am

His proposal vis-a-vis Gaza certainly has the usual suspects all riled up.
I suspect it’s just a ploy to get the other Muslim countries to step up and take some responsibilities.
The problem is that no matter how much rebuilding anyone does, as long as the Gazans are still in charge when we leave, the situation will return to what it is now, rapidly.

Reply to  MarkW
February 5, 2025 11:41 am

MarkW, I also suspected that it was just a ploy in Trump’s usual rhetorical fashion, but couldn’t really put it into words. I just saw on another site what I thought was a brilliant tweet and explanation from Scott Adams (he’s quite good when not pushing COVID):

   I hate that sleeping on this changed my opinion.

   First reaction:

   Hell no. I hate everything about this.

   Current opinion:

   Trump just ended a permawar between Hamas and Israel by informing them they will no longer have a common border. . . one way or another.

   It’s not a bluff. But it will have the effect of “sharpening” the thinking of everyone in the region. I’d expect some frantic counteroffers.

   In his inimitable way, Trump is generating new options in a land that had none. And he’s doing it by presenting himself as the “common enemy” to both sides. (Here I am assuming Israel’s government is choking on this idea too.)

   The last thing I want is the USA owning Gaza. But if it’s also the last thing all the countries in that region want, something productive could come out of it.

Basically, the other countries will do something about it because they don’t want Trump to do something about it. He’s just nudging along a little…

Tony Cole
Reply to  Phil R
February 5, 2025 12:14 pm

Its called “throwing a sardine”…someone is going to take the bait. Brilliant!

Dave Yaussy
Reply to  Phil R
February 5, 2025 1:51 pm

For 70+ years, Arab states have kept Palestinians perpetual refugees, nurturing their grievances against Israel. They could have used a fraction of the billions they have spent maintaining the status quo by paying to settle them elsewhere, or creating a stable society in Gaza, but they liked the discord they were sowing. If Trump is making them face up to their responsibilities in this mess, more power to him.

MarkW
Reply to  Dave Yaussy
February 5, 2025 3:46 pm

For every other refugee group, the UN is dedicated to repatriating them in a new country.
For the so called Palestinians, they are not only the only refugee group that has its own dedicated agency, but the mission of this agency is to return them to Israel, no other option is to be considered.

Reply to  MarkW
February 5, 2025 10:29 pm

UN created Israel in Palestine without their consent . Other partitions like India and Pakistan had local elections first where the election winners decided on the partition plan. No UN involved.

Reply to  Duker
February 5, 2025 11:59 pm

Palestine as a country has never existed except as Jewish homeland.

Reply to  Streetcred
February 6, 2025 12:04 pm

There was no jewish nation until 1948. The concept of nation didnt exist 2000 years ago. Jews lived all over the roman empire and the later Ottoman empire . very very few lived in the Ottoman provinces later known as Palestine – the name used by the romans
A jewish homeland idea was invented in 1890s, the suggestion was Argentina or Madagascar by the inventor of the idea Herzog

Derg
Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 5:25 am

We agree the US must pull out of the UN.

Reply to  MarkW
February 6, 2025 5:58 am

The Roman exiled the Jews, and named the country Palestine, after the people who lived there.
Then, in 1948 several hundred thousand Jews were settled there, mostly from East Europe.
Then Palestinians were “displaced” to the margins.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Phil R
February 5, 2025 4:01 pm

My immediate reaction to hearing this proposal was to laugh my butt off. In true Trumpian fashion he proposed a seemingly outrageous idea that actually causes people to stop and think. Something that no one else in a million years would have thought of.

Sure there’s the usual crowd that will scream loudly about anything from ‘genocide’ to forcefully imposing the ‘will of the US’. But it’s been almost 80 years, 61 of which I’ve lived through and NOONE has proposed any reasonable idea of how to resolve the death & mayhem in the region.

The Arabs (all neighboring countries) TOTALLY ran away from it, or really first caused the problem and THAN ran away from it when they got their butts handed to them. Egypt, Jordan etc. should LONG ago have resettled all the Arabs in the ‘disputed’ lands that THEY caused to be there, they refused and still refuse to this day.

It reminds me of a Robin Williams’ joke from his Live on Broadway show. It goes something like “A Buddhist monk is committing self-immolation when he’s asked ‘What are you DOING?’. His response is ‘Making you deal with your sh*t'” (Of course its WAY funnier actually watching+hearing RW give it).

And that’s what Trump does “Make you deal with your sh*t”. He says stuff that people go “That’s batsh*t crazy, nobody would every do that”…”O sh*t its Trump he may actually do it”.

Fundamentally all such statements from Trump can be translated to “Enough is enough. FIX IT! NOW! And ANY way possible!”

KevinM
Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 5, 2025 4:46 pm

Good analysis but:
and THAN ran away from it
than/then

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  KevinM
February 5, 2025 4:51 pm

Yeah, my apologies. Its now a ‘life long failing’. I try to catch these, its not like I don’t know the difference and I don’t mind people pointing out the mistake…its my mistake…I just wish my brain would fundamentally fix the problem rather than (see) me needing to actually cognitively pay attention to find the misuses…

Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 6, 2025 3:37 am

“My immediate reaction to hearing this proposal was to laugh my butt off. In true Trumpian fashion he proposed a seemingly outrageous idea that actually causes people to stop and think. Something that no one else in a million years would have thought of.”

That’s what he did. He changed the whole dialogue.

Trump has no intention of owning Gaza or sending in American troops, although he would send in construction crews.

Trump is the best friend the Palestinians ever had. Who else is saying we should build beautiful houses for the Palestinians where they can live in safety?

Trump is correct in that the destruction in Gaza is too much to expect two million people to be able to live there. So what’s the alternative? I imagine Trump’s speech will be bringing out a lot of alternatives from people concerned.

The Democrats, as usual, are lying about what Trump said about Gaza. They are saying Trump wants to forcibly remove the Palestinians, but Trump never said such a thing. So now, the Democrats are not only undermining their own country, they are undermining the Palestinian people by making Trump’s offer seem evil rather than magnanimous and helpful. One Palestinian woman interviewed on tv yesterday had already absorbed the Democrat lie, saying she wouldn’t accept being forced out of Gaza by Trump. But Trump never said he would force anyone to do anything. It’s just another Democrat, harmful lie.

The Democrat Party as currently composed presents a great danger to the United States. The Truth is not in them, and that’s why they are so dangerous.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 10:52 am

“…no intention of owning Gaza…”, but that’s just it, NEVER discount Trump’s ‘intentions’. If there’s one thing I’ve observed Trump uses language entirely different than the rest of us. He uses it in its most specific & direct meaning, in this case ‘owning’ (actually buying the land) and its broadest e.g. “Ok, we got the Saudi’s to pony up the money…but…”

So push comes to shove, yes he’d expect at least US investors, perhaps even himself to ‘own’ the land (maybe even the US government…which in my opinion would be wrong).

This gambit won’t play out nearly as quickly as the tariffs on Canada & Mexico did. His ‘maximum pressure campaign’, not just on Iran but against Jordan and Egypt (though what ‘maximum pressure’ is here may be different) will need to ramp up first such that Jordan and Egypt will be agreeing and leading the charge to take in the Arab’s of Gaza. He’ll need to keep promising the ‘big beautiful houses with good jobs for all’ etc. His ‘narrative’ of “this is a shithole, we will not invest in continuing a shithole, we’re building a beautful place to live” may take hold.

BTW, it would not surprise me in the least if he even starts including Iran as to where to send some of the Arabs of Gaza. But maybe only the terrorists. Think about it, you can’t really ‘just kill them’ (e.g. there’s a ceasefire), not going to be able to round them up & stick them in a prison (too many of them), so send them to Iran. Then at least you know where they are (notice how he’s praising Iran, how its a ‘beautiful country’, and wants to try to get a ‘Nuclear deal’ done)…

Trump is sometimes too much of a buffoon for my liking but I’ve never thought he was dumb and he certainly doesn’t think like anyone else and like no other President the world has ever seen.

Reply to  Phil R
February 7, 2025 3:31 am

“Here I am assuming Israel’s government is choking on this {Trump’s] idea too.”

The word is that the conservative wing in Israel likes Trump’s proposal for rebuilding Gaza..

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MarkW
February 5, 2025 1:29 pm

Not Gazans. Hamas.

Mr.
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 5, 2025 2:25 pm

Exactly.
Hamas is utterly intractable about its religion-inspired dedication to obliteration of Israel, Jewish peoples everywhere, and also “death to America”.

There is no reaching any sort of rational accommodation with these Hamas nasties.

Palestine / Gaza is a “start from scratch again” situation.

Reply to  Mr.
February 5, 2025 10:32 pm

Trump wants to expel the Palestinian Gazan’s . With the boot on the other foot, someone could expel Israelis.
Ask the armeninas and Greeks how their centuries of life in Anatolia turned out

Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 3:46 am

“Trump wants to expel the Palestinian Gazan’s”

Wrong! Trump never said anything about expelling anyone.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 12:05 pm

Relocating ? Thats what the Nazis said too , but it didnt mean that did it.

Reply to  Mr.
February 6, 2025 3:44 am

“There is no reaching any sort of rational accommodation with these Hamas nasties.”

I agree. They are religious fanatics.

What i worry about is the Palestinian people. They have been subjected to serious brainwahing for generations, so a lot of them are pretty radical themselves.

There’s a reason Jordan and Egypt are reluctant to take in the Palestinians. They fear their radicalism will undermine their country.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 6:02 am

The Damnocrats would love to have them here

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 10:36 am

The Gazan population are not Palestinians.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Mr.
February 6, 2025 8:26 am

Hamas is utterly intractable about its religion-inspired dedication to obliteration of Israel, Jewish peoples everywhere, and also “death to America”.”

That’s pretty much all Muslims. Some are just much more vocal and active about it.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
February 6, 2025 10:29 am

Pretty much all Muslims I have to take exception to.
It exists, certainly, but it is not all. It is only a small slice of the population.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
February 6, 2025 10:35 am

Agreed. Start from scratch once again.

Hamas rejected Palestine when they revolted in the 2004 timeframe and took power away from the Palestinian Authority.

Palestine is a political organization. There is no Palestinian ethnic or genetic group. Palestine came into the conversation around the time of the 1967 war (I may have the wrong war).

Reply to  MarkW
February 5, 2025 10:03 pm

What could be proposed for Palestinians would work for those immigrant Israelis too.
No right to exist

Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 3:47 am

The Jews were there first. It’s the Jews’ land. Has been for thousands of years.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 6:03 am

The Jews were exiled by the Romans around 50 AC

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  wilpost
February 6, 2025 8:30 am

AC hadn’t been invented yet.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  wilpost
February 6, 2025 10:42 am

Nope. It was the Arabs in roughly 600 AD that accomplished that. Arabs being loosely used as a catch all for the various political entities at the time. I’d have to go back and look it up to see if it was Persians, Ottomans, or whatever.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 6, 2025 12:06 pm

Own research is it ?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 10:40 am

Approximately 3500 years.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 10:39 am

The citizenry of Israel is about 30% Moslem.

When country of Israel was reestablished in the 1940s (after WWII), the Hebrews embraced the Moslems and worked to achieve more than mere co-existence. It was not until the Arab world saw how much the Israelis transformed the desolation and decided to take it away that the problems started.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 6, 2025 12:08 pm

Didnt Happen like that . There was a golden rule when the first immigrants from europe arived from around 1900.
No arab will work jewish land, no jew will shop in a arab market.
That upended how the previous jewish minority existed un der Ottoman rule

Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 5, 2025 2:15 pm

Ripped DEI out of the federal government.

Yes, but don’t get too excited yet.

DEI is more than the hiring of the howling incompetent based on their bizarre personal perversity. It runs deep in the bowels of the Bureaucracy in Marxist language and programs such as “environmental justice”, “environmental racism”, “environmental inequality”, “distributive justice”, and “environmental intersectionality”.

There is much to root out. It might take years. We all need to keep our eyes on the Deep State forever.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  OR For
February 6, 2025 10:45 am

DEI in its initial concept was about bringing all of us together in harmony and upping the level we happily lived together. Sadly, DEI was perverted into the exact opposite of its original purpose.

I am all in on the DEI purge. It is regrettable that we all can’t just get along, but as long as the activists keep screaming, that will never happen.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 5, 2025 4:38 pm

But now he says we’re gonna own Gaza. What do people think about that? Make Gaza Great Again?

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 5, 2025 5:15 pm

Lol. When was it ever great? So wouldn’t that just be “Make Gaza Great.”…

Personally I love it, not that I believe it will actually happen, though I’m open to the possibility it might. Trump is using this to make the Arab nations in the region ‘deal with their sh*t’. Its their problem of their own making.

Starting from ‘first principles’. To paraphrase Trump, Gaza is a smoking pile of rubble, its going to need to be substantially rebuilt. Where’s the money coming from? Iran? (NOPE! Trump won’t let that happen). Where will it go? To Hamas? Again NOPE! Trump won’t let that happen either. So Trump is going “We’ll supply the money but we want a significant rate of return on the investment” (e.g. ‘own’ it)…Arab’s in the region aren’t going to like that much, though I’m assuming I know anything about how Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan et.al. actually think of a major ‘US presence’ in the region. So ultimately its just putting any rebuilding in to perspective as to “if you intend money to be invested to rebuild this carcass you aren’t going to want it bombed out of existence again” so its not about just sending in money & let the chips fall where they may…

Now, that’s just a ‘money’ thing, I haven’t quite figured out how he’s intending to move the 1.7 million people around the planet, though I suspect we’ll see a fairly major pressure campaign on Egypt and Jordan to set up a ‘Palestinian DEI program’ (e.g. jobs & money for resettlement)…and you read it here first, Trump supports DEI! But only the kind he likes.

OweninGA
Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 5, 2025 6:05 pm

When it was legally occupied as spoils of war by Israel, Gaza had a booming greenhouse economy going, a beginning of a general tourist economy and was generally looking like it would turn into something fairly nice. Then land-for-peace came and the Israelis abandoned it to the Arab immigrants that call themselves Palestinians. The first thing they did was to destroy all the productive buildings as being Zionist incursions that were an affront to the purity of the Palestinians. The area went from producing food as an export to needing large outside support to live.

It really should be a coastal garden site.

(At the time of Ottoman rule over the area, the census was about 30,000 Muslims/50,000 Jews/ 15,000 Christians living in the governate. After the British mandate started after WWI, Muslims began pouring in because the conditions began to improve – mostly through the efforts of the early Zionist colonists. The Muslims in the area were mostly Bedouins, who are mostly Israeli citizens and doing fairly well.)

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  OweninGA
February 5, 2025 8:08 pm

My apologies, you are correct. I did have ‘knowledge’ of that but it wasn’t at top of mind so to speak that Gaza had been thriving at one point…so I buy “MGGA”…Trump should TM that & keep pushing it…

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  OweninGA
February 6, 2025 8:40 am

Arab immigrants that call themselves Palestinians”

Yes. Historically, anyone living in the region (not country or state) were referred to as Palestinians. So they are not exclusively Arabs. As you mentioned, most were Jews.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
February 6, 2025 10:48 am

When Rome conquered Judea and Israel, it was named Palestine, which as I read, translates from Hebrew the word “invader.”

Palestinian was not used until the mid 1960s.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 6, 2025 12:04 am

Put a naval base there 🙂

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 6, 2025 3:49 am

“But now he says we’re gonna own Gaza. What do people think about that?”

I think it is hyperbole, meant to shake people out of their usual way of thinking about things.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 10:48 am

You are not alone in that conjecture.
Add to it, inspire the regional powers to start thinking about it and come up with better ideas.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 5, 2025 10:02 pm

Mexico has been ‘sending more troops’ to it’s border multiple times over the last 8 yrs
Canada upgraded it’s spending on it’s border from 2019

Trump got played like a cheap harmonica

Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 12:07 am

Must be a bitch to have your funding funnel squeezed shut.

Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 12:16 am

From the outside view, Trump is a laughing stock. The other senile guy was being controlled, at least.

  • He went toe-to-toe with Canada, pooped himself and backed down.
  • He went toe-to-toe with Mexico, they said “We’re already doing that, Thicko” so he pooped himself and backed down.
  • He faced up to China threatening 50% tariffs. He pooped himself and backed down to 10%. They release a sample of their advanced AI technology and trash Silicon Valley share prices.
  • He stood firm against Putin and ended the war in Ukraine in Week 1 (in his own mind).
  • He promised no more foreign wars and then threatened to put troops in Canada, Panama, Greenland and Gaza – but fortunately pooped himself and backed down.
  • He destroyed the CIA and their covert funding (USAid) while strengthening China’s reputation globally by making then seem relatively reliable as allies.

It’s not going great, guys. Except for China.

Reply to  MCourtney
February 6, 2025 3:53 am

You have a very distorted view of reality.

You should come to the United States and become a Democrat. You would fit right in.

Derg
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 5:29 am

He was a believer of Covid originated from a pangolin…lol

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 7, 2025 3:09 am

Meanwhile, on planet Earth, none of the facts have been disputed. Because they are obviously true.

I sort of expected pushback on how Trump’s up-and-down weakness and wiggling round-and-round chaos and dithering on-and-off tariffs… were benefiting China. You could argue that it’s benefitting nobody.

But instead you just claim that Trump hasn’t switched direction more times than he’s served days and you claim reality isn’t like that.

But it is. Facts matter.

February 5, 2025 10:56 am

The irony is too funny… As Thatcher once said, “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”
And the Trump turned off the spigot!

ethical voter
Reply to  BOB54
February 5, 2025 12:21 pm

The heart of left philosophy is spending other peoples money. For this reason the left will always self implode when the money or the peoples tolerance runs out. The left are plain wrong.

Reply to  ethical voter
February 5, 2025 10:37 pm

Red states are the biggest nett takers of federal funding.
Think all the GOP in Congress who voted against Bidens inflation Act but back in their district said they were the ones who made it happen. No one didn’t take all the credit

Derg
Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 5:30 am

Duker has been trolling today. Face it dude…you lost.

C_Miner
Reply to  BOB54
February 5, 2025 8:23 pm

At one time the left thought communism could compete economically. They 1989 happened and that mirror was shattered. But you can still find socialists that insist the wall fell the other way. Which should be all the educated man/woman/houseplant needs to know about that.

Reply to  C_Miner
February 5, 2025 10:45 pm

Tell the people in the Rust Belt how it’s all worked out for them since 89.

You do know that China economic rise to 2nd behind US in 40 years because of their Leninist party state system.

C_Miner
Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 11:19 am

The Soviet Union was seen as an economic powerhouse until the wall fell. 1917 to 1989 was 72 years. 1949 through today is 76 years, so they’re due any time now. Crony capitalism can look good, but how many international auditors do they allow in? Is it another Potemkin village writ large?

ethical voter
Reply to  Duker
February 6, 2025 11:27 am

In spite of not because of. One can only wonder where China might be with a capitalist and no party system.

Reply to  ethical voter
February 6, 2025 12:09 pm

They were capitalist before 1947

ethical voter
Reply to  Duker
February 7, 2025 12:26 pm

and imperialist. Not democratic.

February 5, 2025 11:17 am

How long before they start to argue that “The Green Blob” needs a “living wage”? 😎

February 5, 2025 11:19 am

Re “SchadenfreudeFinest: … Grifters Cry Over … Freeze” should win some kind of prize for funniest title.

0perator
February 5, 2025 11:35 am

“Learn to code.” I am not tiring from the winning.

C_Miner
Reply to  0perator
February 5, 2025 8:24 pm

Good lord no. We need code that works.

Reply to  C_Miner
February 6, 2025 9:00 am

But they FEEL like it works, and they’re happy about what they wrote, so it’s all good.

(and yes I have actually encountered that, a colleague showing me code she was really proud of that was one of the biggest messes I had ever seen)

Mr.
February 5, 2025 11:38 am

Hang on.

Wasn’t the science about AGW “settled” back in 2009?

So what’s the return to the populace on all the taxpayer funded research grants in continuing to study “settled” science?

Next, if we’re not careful, we taxpayers will find ourselves being slugged for research grants to try to settle what a “woman” is.

Oh wait . . . 🙁

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
February 5, 2025 1:30 pm

As I recall, it was settled in 1992.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 5, 2025 2:13 pm

Yep, sunk by A.D.1992 into quicksand by adopting:
1979 ‘Charney Report‘ published by NAS
1981 Hansen et al. Science, neatly compiled all the original sins er errors*
[ 1982+ brief detour for ‘Nuclear Winter’ neo-glaciation tipping point mania ]
—————
ffwd to 2020 A.D. Sherwood et al.**
We remain unable to rule out that the sensitivity could be above 4.5°C per doubling of carbon dioxide levels”
!That’s Four-Plus (4+) Decades of Net-Zero-Progress!
——————
*1. adopt constant-RH (water vapor) hypothesis;
2. adopt peak-minerals fantasy;
3. neglect saturation (of infrared absorption);
4. mal-treatment of clouds, missed adaptive iris etc.; and ESPECIALLY …
5. failed to anticipate ‘Tropical-Monsoon-Engine Supremacy’ (TS-TS-HT)+; W. Eschenbach (2010)

**Reviews of Geophysics, An assessment of Earth’s climate sensitivity using multiple lines of evidence

Mr.
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 5, 2025 2:27 pm

Well, Sparta, it was double-plus settled by 2009 then?

Reply to  Mr.
February 6, 2025 6:17 am

Dear Mr Mr.,
in place of ‘double-plus’, how about quadrupled, well on the way to quintuply-settled?
cheers, — RLW

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Whetten Robert L
February 6, 2025 8:46 am

Because that’s not the Orwellian Way.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
February 6, 2025 10:52 am

Is that like the double secret probation in Animal House?

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 5, 2025 7:58 pm

Since it was settled in 1992, all funding should have been terminated at that time.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Graemethecat
February 6, 2025 10:53 am

Proof it was settled is all the trillions of dollars spent since then.
/s

February 5, 2025 11:52 am

The amazing transition we are watching is because Trump and a large group of very smart people of his selection now have control of the American agenda. Every one of hem has truth welded into their hearts and minds and the intellect to act effectively on that truth. Just as always happens, the truth has finally floated to the surface while the lies and deceit have drowned under the weight of their own bloated irrelevance. The unfortunate aspect of this transition is that it is still lacking in so many parts of the wealthy Western democratic world where globalist, socialist, far left mythical thinking and out and out graft remain the order of the day.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 5, 2025 4:15 pm

Woah there. That Trump & his minions are working towards correcting the insanity of the last 50 years does not make them saints or ‘committed to the truth’. That they are performing actions right now most of us here like (if not entirely agree with) doesn’t mean we should believe they have ‘truth welded into their hearts and minds’. I’m not going to claim none of them do but they aren’t saints.

I’ve always started from the belief that all politicians are corrupt, the goal is to elect the least corrupt. Cynical maybe but I haven’t been terribly disappointed or shocked by revelations of corruption that arise on both sides. Ultimately if some politician walks away rich BUT has not significantly impacted my freedoms and liberties I’m ok with that “Its the cost of doing business”. Which is why I’m scared to death when the Democrats get in because by definition they want to remove your freedoms, always have and always will.

KevinM
Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 5, 2025 4:51 pm

Thanks, yes.

Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 6, 2025 4:06 am

“I’ve always started from the belief that all politicians are corrupt,”

Trump is an exception. He doesn’t need money, so he doesn’t need to be corrupt.

Yesterday, Trump said he was going to spend $100 million of his own money to build an extension to the White House. He said he intended to do it after his reelection in 2020, but fate intervened, and Biden was elected. He said he made the offer to the Biden administration on several occasions and they never responded back. He said that now that he is president again, he will approve his proposal. 🙂

I don’t think all politicians are corrupt. But there are a lot that are corrupt, unfortunately. From my experience, most of the corrupt ones are on the Democrat side.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 9:47 am

I agree many politicians are corrupt, many voters are too. I agree as well that Trump does not appear to be corrupted by either a desire to use the presidency for his own self interest (other than in the generic sense of making a healthy economy that is friendly to business and growth), or by a need for money. Further he is truly an outsider from the intricate web of corruption and abuse of power that appears to be the daily routine of the modern bureaucratic administrative state.

My focus in my comment above was on the observation of bringing common sense, critical thinking or simply truth to the endeavour of governing. Trump has a remarkable ability to get to the kernel of truth in many critical topics of understanding and to surround himself with others with similar skills. The areas of concern include the climate debate, CoVID and the responses to it, energy, resources, economic drivers and deterrents, national security, resolution and prevention of conflict, and the huge price for allowing unfettered regulation to stifle innovation and growth in a nation.

Trump is not a saint and he is not perfect, nor should anyone have those expectations of their leaders. What we want is for things to improve and Trump and his team appear to be the best option for the foreseeable future, even though mistakes will be made and personal flaws exposed as time passes. On the side of progress is the fact we already have four years of track record with Trump as president which, for the most part, give reason for optimism.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 6, 2025 11:15 am

While it is not as clear how to attribute the aphorism ‘follow the money’ to Trump I do not assume he doesn’t have motives or at least pressures that will have him do things not necessarily aligned with ‘my best interests’ (or beliefs). Not that mine are most important, they are to me of course, as everyone’s interests are to them.

Consider his relationship with Musk, on balance I think it will end up ‘good’ (e.g. we’ll end up more free not less). So I will not begrudge some ‘cost of doing business’ as I put it. In general I find Musk ‘decent’ (I don’t know him personally so that’s as far as I can go). He’s certainly smart and a man of incredible vision and drive. He’s also a HUGE ‘government rent seeker’.

Tesla was successful purely due to the Tax rebates for EV’s. Its successful because he’s able to leverage ‘climate catastrophe’ to his advantage. Yes now he claims he doesn’t need the rebate but that’s only because Tesla is so big now that its better for him if his competitors don’t have this advantage.

SpaceX made huge amounts of money from the US government before it was able to make profit from Starlink (I ASSUME it is or will be soon).

I do not begrudge Musk for the latter as that was mostly ‘selling stuff to the US government they’d have spent the space budget money anyway’. I despise his motives with the former. If he’d just been pushing EV’s as “Look at this REALLY cool technology we’ve built, you WANT it because its COOL”, than fine but he didn’t. He helped spread the climate catastrophe mantra, leveraged it for his own gain. Perhaps he actually believed it and maybe he’s woken up so his motives may not be entirely evil here. BUT if he is as smart as we all think he is, than why did he buy the climate doomerism mantra to begin with. It’s not like a cursory review doesn’t blow the whole thing up, and even the concept of a warming planet with more CO2 is clearly a good thing not bad…maybe my use of ‘despise’ is too harsh here but he has some serious explaining to do…

And don’t get me started on him clearly quietly convincing Trump to ‘tone it down’ on the H1B program…(full disclose, I’m in the US as Permanent Resident who started with an H1B. That doesn’t mean I don’t see problems with its implementation, and to further clarify I think all western countries need to have a LEGAL immigration level that at least gets them to ‘replacement level’).

Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 7, 2025 3:54 am

Good comments.

I don’t see any ulterior motives for what Musk is doing examining the U.S. budget.

Trump came out and said he supported the H1B program. He said he even used the program himself. He did say that the program needed to be reformed so as not to put American workers at a disadvantage.

I think the budget detective work by Musk is going to turn out to be very important. The American people are going to see for themselves just how much of their money is being wasted yearly, and they are not going to be happy about it.

You can tell Musk is over the target by the loudness of the screaming from the radical Democrats. Look at the faces of these radical Democrats when they scream and call for violence in the streets: Angry, hateful, fanatic.

We don’t want to be governed by crazy people like this.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 7, 2025 7:51 am

loudness of the screaming from the radical Democrats

I haven’t heard anything from the big names yet, but there seem to be a lot of randos going on about insurrection (yep), revolution, stuff like that. “cute winter boots” was a thing for a while, seems to have morphed – they finally realized they weren’t being that clever at hiding behind “code words”.

Of course, these are the same people who called of a “anti-hitler” protest because it was too cold.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Tony_G
February 7, 2025 11:01 am

Not sure where your getting your information or who you consider ‘big names’, but Schumer, AOC, Omar and even good old Hillary have been weighing in and getting their butt handed to them.

Its so bad even the leftist media is mocking them, see Schumer & his ‘beer & avocado’ stupidity.

The depth of the Democrat corruption and attempted control of society is playing out in real time on X and general social media. They can scream and yell all they want and it just makes them look worse. The people are now fully waking up to play book, that all this protesting is simply to try to stop Trump & DOGE from finding out about the extreme levels of grift and potentially illegal behavior that has been going on.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 7, 2025 10:52 am

Yes, and ‘so far so good’. I haven’t read or observed anything that triggers any real concern about their motives, and the show so far has been more than worth the price of admission.

It’s CRAZY what DOGE is finding. I’d say I ‘love’ it but some of it is so outrageous that I may wish to have remained ignorant (not really just an expression of my anger).

They’ve only just started and they’ve already unearthed a web of money flow in to the hands of groups that never should have received government money, not just waste, but criminally. If they can uncover more direct evidence I suspect there will be some serious DOJ action in bringing charges, potentially as high as the Clintons, Gore & others (PURE supposition on my part and not a ‘wish’ just an observation).

Its beyond waste (paying for a Transgender play in Peru or wherever it was) and in to ‘payola’.

I’ve seen a comment to the effect that what is being uncovered will put Iran-Contra to shame.

My comments on this subject so far have been directed to promote just being ‘cautious’. As I noted elsewhere, its not good enough to win the game, its how you play it that matters.

Its going to be a wild 4 years. I suspect by the end there’ll be a lot of bald Democrats with chafed hands from all the hair pulling and hand wringing.

Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 6, 2025 9:35 am

I appreciate your comment. I agree that corruption and acting in one’s own self interest are common in politics but elsewhere in society as well. I am not sure of the relevance of this to my comment above. I can’t find anywhere in my words where I talked about “saints” or about politicians in general. While many Trump appointees have been politicians, not all were. His appointments are not strictly political ones as they are not being voted into position but rather appointment by the executive having been selected as the best candidates in the eyes of the President.

My main point was about whether they are acting based on an awareness (the “mind” part) of what is true and a motivation (the “heart” part) to have their motivations/actions guided by that awareness. I believe Trump has selected a very admirable group of talented people who do understand some fundamental truths that have been neglected in government and society for a long time, and that their motivation is to improve the lives of citizens and the health in general of the nation by acting on those truths, Just one such truth is that the climate changes all the time due to natural forces, but there is no objective evidence that human activity is playing any more than a small role in influencing that, and the strategies promoted and financed by politicians to control the weather/climate who lack insight to this truth are a net negative economically, environmentally and in terms of the certainty that they will not work.

I believe the emergence of truth from a sea of confusion and uncritical beliefs is a real phenomenon that we have seen repeatedly through the passage of history. I believe we are seeing that now in the policy changes that follow the recent US election and I would only want to see more of the same common sense spread widely for the benefit of all.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 6, 2025 10:31 am

Admittedly the ‘saint’ remark was maybe an overreaching paraphrase as how I read your phrase “truth welded into their hearts and minds and the intellect to act effectively on that truth” (my bolding added).

To clarify, I do believe that Trump and his appointees are in general working towards more freedom not less and working towards reducing or removing the excesses of stupidity that has occurred over not just 4 years but close to 50. I would note that all his appointees are “political appointees”, that is literally what they are called. At least the ‘Secretary’ ones have to be voted in by the Senate (which by proxy is voting by the people).

Ultimately my comment was intended to be ‘cautionary guidance’ against attributing too much ‘faith’ in the leaders of “our team” just because they are currently doing things we agree with. Ultimately ‘truth’ and ‘facts’ are slippery, and not just recently because of the internet.

I can give you one example of how the current administration is ignoring a truth. Specifically the US (indeed all Western countries as far as I’m aware) are below ‘replacement rate birth levels’, some worse than others (Japan). As such for any of these countries to survive they must allow for significant immigration at least to replacement levels. Trump almost got there later in his campaign in so much as he discussed opening up immigration to ‘the best and brightest’ and was demonstrably against the H1B visa program (full disclosure I’m in the US as a Permanent Resident but started under H1B), or at least its implementation. After Musk got a hold of him Trump doesn’t talk about the positive side of immigration or modifying the H1B program. His team has him ignoring the ‘truth’.

Stopping illegal immigration and controlling a countries borders is only half the equation for this ‘truth’. That must occur or a country is not a country. The other half though, is to maintain a level of legal immigration to at least maintain replacement level. That does not mean just bringing in just the ‘weak and the tired’ though that is a core principal in the US (its right there on the Statue of Liberty). And it should be done to ensure the immigrants are ‘welded’ (to use your term) to a fundamental belief in the US constitution and the general belief system and culture of the country (law and order, private property, help can be given but not demanded…).

Trump is missing a HUGE opportunity to entirely decimate the Democrats on this topic. If, along with cracking down on illegal immigration, he talked about the need to stream line and especially increase legal immigration (in his world ‘to the best and the brightest’) the Democrats would have absolutely 0 control over the immigration narrative. It would be ‘off the table’ as a talking point.

In any case, I don’t think we are all that far apart in our observations of the current administration, I’m just cautioning against taking our eye of the ball as it matters how you win the game, not just that you do.

Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 6, 2025 12:13 pm

I think we are in full agreement on the basics here. I also agree that immigration is an important part of building our economies (I am a Canadian). Our countries share the issue of domestic fertility decline. I am not as certain of how much of our adaptation to this issue will or should be resolved through immigration and how much through other adjustments. Canada has been served very well in the past by merit-based, orderly immigration and now suffers some of the same ills as the US from unregulated, opportunistic illegal migration without adequate controls.

Japan has actually managed well economically and socially through a lot of adaptations and without doing much on immigration. Other countries will go a different direction and then there are places that have no real solution such as Russia where there is more out than in-migration, an aging population with low fertility, an excess of male early mortality affecting productivity and an autocratic inefficient and corrupt government that is destroying the economy through an unnecessary war.

I guess the real truth I glean from this point is that the big fear I grew up with of the population explosion and the whole “end of resources” scare is moot. We have only seen improvements in most measures of the quality of life and future potential of human society as the population boomed in the industrial age, and demographers can predict now that human population will peak about mid century and then begin to decline. I am not sure Trump is ignoring this demographic truth, nor Musk. Musk has actually spoken about the issue in the past. I think they are simply prioritizing the most urgent issue of illegal, unregulated migration and a lot of social ills and expenses attached to that.

I confess to being an optimist and therefore my focus on the positives I see in the current political sea change. Regards.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 6, 2025 3:50 pm

I agree we are likely mostly aligned. And for the most part I still have enough of the ‘optimist’ in me to believe in focusing on positive outcomes.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 6, 2025 10:55 am

It sure would be nice to go back to a Constitutional Federal Republic where we elect Representatives, not politicians.

ethical voter
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 6, 2025 11:52 am

I think that you can only be represented by representatives who can represent themselves. This disqualifies all party representatives. To put it another way. Choose representatives who have the freedom of their conscience and the integrity and courage to be obedient to it.

ethical voter
Reply to  youcantfixstupid
February 6, 2025 11:40 am

The corruption of politicians begins when the voters elect people who cannot represent their own conscience. Such people cannot then represent the voter. They represent the party that controls them. This lack of freedom of conscience allows for many bad decisions that rotate around party furtherance rather than public good. The stupid voter thinks he can pick up a turd by the clean end.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 6, 2025 10:54 am

You are waxing poetic.

Makes for a nice, comforting read.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
February 6, 2025 11:02 am

There were two very valid reasons to vote for D.J.Trump.

  1. He could not be bought. Recall he took no salary his first term.
  2. You know who is in charge.

The policies? Some people agree with some. Others agree with others. And that is the way it should be. An open and honest debate is all that is needed.

We need to clear the decks of the debris left by the previous administration before we can line up deck chairs and have an open and honest debate. The clearing of the decks is D.J.Trump’s first project and he is going at it full tilt.

The only way to effect real changes is to disrupt the status quo. That is why Trump was elected in 2016 and again in 2024. This time he is not hampered by nefarious acts designed to tie him up;

It will go on for at least 6 months.

Bob
February 5, 2025 12:20 pm

More good news. I think we have to have an audit of all government agencies with grant making authority. The money spigot should stay turned off until each department has been audited. There is most likely a place for government grants but I’m not sure where it is. There is no reason to interfere with necessary research because a bunch of do gooders are abusing the system. I do know that not one penny should go to CAGW causes until the CAGW crowd can prove anthropogenic CO2 controls earth’s climate, in other words it is earth’s control knob. That isn’t going to happen because CO2 is not earth’s climate control knob.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Bob
February 5, 2025 1:32 pm

How many audit reviews have been conducted on the dollars sent to other countries?
How many dollars actually reached the people needing help versus pocketed by some politician or intermediary?

Americans should demand answers. Obviously Trump is.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 5, 2025 2:48 pm

I read somewhere that a very large % of the funds sent to Zelensky in Ukraine…

… remain totally unaccounted for…. apparently just “disappeared”.

Reply to  bnice2000
February 6, 2025 4:23 am

Now would be the time to look into all that.

Keep in mind, there is a lot of disinformation being put out about the Ukraine/Russia war.

An audit ought to give us a good idea of where the money went.

A lot of money to help Ukraine is being spent in the United States to jump-start U.S. ammunition supplies, and a lot of the money is going to humanitarian uses in Ukraine.

Reply to  bnice2000
February 6, 2025 9:01 am

a very large % of the funds

I heard yesterday it’s something like $100b

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  bnice2000
February 6, 2025 11:03 am

I believe there were reports about that during the Biden disaster.
I believe Congress demanded accountability.
I have seen nothing to indicate it was ever accomplished.

hdhoese
Reply to  Bob
February 5, 2025 2:59 pm

There’s an old adage about the pendulum swinging too far which always sounds worrisome. Such comparisons are not adequate but governments at all levels do have needs done better not in-house. Part of what’s needed is getting rid of pork-barrel type projects with examples such as the repetition/redundancy from works that one finds so common now represented in certain scientific papers. Lots of necessary cleaning of the ‘trash heaps’ will be difficult with many examples involved that require care suggesting that innocents might get hurt along with society. Too many aspects have been centralized and over-regulated which is a prime example of lack of due process. Peer-review? How can you get rid of new to science evaluations which are based on citation based quantitative “impact factors” that now permeate journals?

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  hdhoese
February 5, 2025 4:37 pm

I seem to be particularly contrarian today, so not picking on you in particular but what is the real justification for this thought “…but governments at all levels do have needs done better not in-house”?

That is to say “If there is a function of government that everybody agrees needs to be done than why should it be outsourced?”…it’s a function of government NOT outsourced groups. I’m thinking of things like foreign aid, not asking for bids to build a government building or a new fighter jet etc. used by the government.

If there’s aid needed so drastically in the world some where to solve a humanitarian crises I’m sure Bloomberg, Soros, Gates etc. can raise the cash from themselves & buddies quickly enough to send to UNRWA (as an example). There is no need to have the government decide how to spend our money on a charity. I’m not saying people don’t want to help or don’t want to show compassion but everyone does that every day of their lives (practically). If it’s not dire, something like helping to educate children or provide clean drinking water there are plenty of charities people can donate to as they see fit, again the government doesn’t need to ‘outsource’ our compassion for us.

I don’t recall which African country its from or the name of the person but some African ‘thought leader’ basically said “STOP sending us aid, its killing us”…he was basically pointing out that its impossible for local people who might be making food and clothing to compete with ‘free aid’ so no way to raise their standard of living. Which is the only way to truly get out of severe poverty.

Of course I have no way to know if this is at all what you might have been thinking of with your statement, so forgive me for the rant if I’m off base to what you were referring to.

KevinM
Reply to  Bob
February 5, 2025 4:53 pm

I don’t want to hire any auditors of past spending.
Sunk cost.
If we need auditors for future spending, I’d ask “who’s supposed to be doing that today?”

Dave Fair
February 5, 2025 12:42 pm

The Bloomberg link demands you agree with them sharing your information with their ideological brothers.

John Hultquist
February 5, 2025 12:44 pm

Indiana is currently the leading state in popcorn production; others: Nebraska, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, and Ohio. Even WA State grows some. No need to worry about tariffs, but I already have a supply- it’s a food that stores for a long time.  

February 5, 2025 1:16 pm

So amazing 😀

Sparta Nova 4
February 5, 2025 1:26 pm

It’s not the end, nor is it the beginning of the end.
It is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

Mr.
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
February 5, 2025 2:34 pm

Or in Joe-speak:

“It’s not the end, nor is it beginning the, the, the thing.
You know, the thing
But it is, perhaps the beginning ending or or or ending beginning of the thing.
Period.
PAUSE”

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
February 6, 2025 11:08 am

You left out the cue “smile.”

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
February 6, 2025 11:12 am

Now, can you do it as a Kamala word salad?

Len Werner
February 5, 2025 1:26 pm

I’m trying to cry for them, but more and more I look like Tuco claiming ‘It’s all my fault, Blondie; mine-mine-mine.’ (…as he then spreads his fingers enough to peer through to see if the-mann-with-no-name is buying it.)

February 5, 2025 1:34 pm

This brings a smile to my face! 🙂 😀

gezza1298
February 5, 2025 1:40 pm

As climate science is settled as they keep telling us, why do we need any ‘scientists’ researching it? There must be nothing new to find.

Richard M
February 5, 2025 1:41 pm

There’s almost nothing bureaucrats do which cannot be done by a well programmed AI. I suspect this is where DOGE is heading. Remove partisan political cronies of the Democrat party and replace them with an unbiased system based on logic. It’s win-win for the country.

Reply to  Richard M
February 5, 2025 2:20 pm

Great! Just don’t leave HAL in charge of the airlock.

Reply to  Richard M
February 5, 2025 3:09 pm

All AI can give you is a consensus subject phrase pattern search with word changes to avoid copyright issues. Or 2 or 3 searches so it sounds intelligent if you ask questions.

youcantfixstupid
Reply to  DMacKenzie
February 5, 2025 4:43 pm

In writing a comment above I couldn’t remember the word/term for a monk setting themselves on fire in protest, so I quickly asked ChatGPT. It popped up the term ‘self-immolation’ with an explanation…QUICKLY followed by that getting replaced with ‘This content may violate our usage policies’…WHATTT? I needed a word that I knew the definition of but not the word…so now ChatGPT/AI can’t be relied on to be a ‘reverse dictionary’???

Or maybe the powers that be thought I might convince ChatGPT to ‘self-immolate’…that would be quite the feat.

Reply to  Richard M
February 6, 2025 4:37 am

“I suspect this is where DOGE is heading.”

I heard something yesterday about DOGE possibly using Artificial Intelligence on the budget audit.

in the meantime, Democrats are claiming dishonestly that Musk is in the Treasury Department computers and is reprogramming them for nefarious purposes.

Musk says they only have “read-only” access at the Treasury Department.

Musk said at the beginning of this process that he thought he could save the taxpayers two TRILLION dollars with an audit. Musk’s mother said she thought her son was underestimating the savings. It’s looking more and more like his mother is going to be correct. Musk has barely touched the budget and has already identified hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars being wasted. And he has a *long* way to go.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
February 5, 2025 2:08 pm

I’m waiting for all the corruption to be exposed. This is just the beginning. When more people find out/realize the USA has been run like a wealthy 3rd world country at their expense the turning tide should become a tsunami.

Leon de Boer
February 5, 2025 3:47 pm

I suspect trump administration is hoping for more lawsuits because once you cut the funding off the lawsuits simply drain whatever money the blob has left.

KevinM
Reply to  Leon de Boer
February 5, 2025 4:57 pm

Lawsuit-to-island-retreat-ratio?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Leon de Boer
February 6, 2025 11:10 am

That and it ties down the opponents so the next wave is a tsunami.

February 5, 2025 4:31 pm

“You mean these self-proclaimed geniuses who claim they can control the global temperature to within a fraction of a degree 100 years from now couldn’t foresee a Trump policy move that was as predictable as the sunrise? Not so bright after all, are they?”

In Wokeachusetts, the climatistas are so isolated from reality- I doubt they even know Trump is in the White House. They certainly have no clue that their Net Zero lunacy is near its end. The state’s Energy and Environment Agency still puts on webinars discussing Net Zero like it’s a done deal.

KevinM
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 5, 2025 4:58 pm

2028 will be interesting

Reply to  KevinM
February 5, 2025 5:06 pm

The governor of MA will have to run again in ’26. I’m hoping to see at least somewhat improvement in the balance of power in this state. Currently, something like 95% of the state’s house of representatives is Democrat. The state sometimes elects Republican governors but they’re mostly RINOs.