Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter, or X as it’s now called, has brought an abrupt shift in the dynamics of the platform. For years, X functioned as an echo chamber where progressive academics freely exchanged ideas, often without much opposition. It was an exclusive club, and Musk’s open-door policy shattered it. With censorship dialed back and banned accounts reinstated, Musk’s version of free speech drove many academics away, leading to a marked decrease in engagement among their ranks.
An article titled The Vibes Are Off: Did Elon Musk Push Academics Off Twitter ? documents this retreat. It shows a significant drop in activity, especially among verified users, following Musk’s acquisition. Emphasis below is mine.
This article addresses a narrower empirical question: What did Elon Musk’s takeover of the platform mean for this academic ecosystem? Using a snowball sample of more than 15,700 academic accounts from the fields of economics, political science, sociology, and psychology, we show that academics in these fields reduced their “engagement” with the platform, measured by either the number of active accounts (i.e., those registering any behavior on a given day) or the number of tweets written (including original tweets, replies, retweets, and quote tweets). We further tested whether this decrease in engagement differed by account type; we found that verified users were significantly more likely to reduce their production of content (i.e., writing new tweets and quoting others’ tweets) but not their engagement with the platform writ large (i.e., retweeting and replying to others’ content).
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/vibes-are-off-did-elon-musk-push-academics-off-twitter/28F45D508BE8F50C95F0F2BBEC48BB10
The data points to a familiar pattern: when left-leaning narratives lose control of the conversation, proponents either cry foul or flee. Now, if you combine this exodus with the insights from Mitchell Langbert’s 2018 study on the political affiliations of elite liberal arts college faculty, the story becomes even clearer.
Langbert’s study from 2018, Homogenous: The Political Affiliations of Elite Liberal Arts College Faculty, reveals a staggering imbalance: liberal arts faculties are overwhelmingly Democratic, with many departments having zero registered Republicans. Across 51 colleges, the average Democratic-to-Republican ratio was 10.4:1. Excluding the two military colleges in the sample (West Point and Annapolis), the ratio jumped to 12.7:1. In the most ideologically driven fields, like gender and peace studies, there were no Republicans to be found.
Why Political Homogeneity Is Troubling
Political homogeneity is problematic because it biases research and teaching and reduces academic credibility. In a recent book on social psychology, The Politics of Social Psychology edited by Jarret T. Crawford and Lee Jussim, Mark J. Brandt and Anna Katarina Spälti, show that because of left-wing bias, psychologists are far more likely to study the character and evolution of individuals on the Right than individuals on the Left.2 Inevitably affecting the quality of this research, though, George Yancey found that sociologists prefer not to work with fundamentalists, evangelicals, National Rifle Association members, and Republicans.3 Even though more Americans are conservative than liberal, academic psychologists’ biases cause them to believe that conservatism is deviant. In the study of gender, Charlotta Stern finds that the ideological presumptions in sociology prevent any but the no-differences-between-genders assumptions of left-leaning sociologists from making serious research inroads. So pervasive is the lack of balance in academia that more than 1,000 professors and graduate students have started Heterodox Academy, an organization committed to increasing “viewpoint diversity” in higher education.4 The end result is that objective science becomes problematic, and where research is problematic, teaching is more so.
https://www.nas.org/academic-questions/31/2/homogenous_the_political_affiliations_of_elite_liberal_arts_college_faculty

The combination of Musk’s takeover and Langbert’s findings paints a vivid picture of academia’s ideological homogeneity. For decades, liberal arts faculty have operated in environments with little to no ideological diversity, and that’s reflected in their research, teaching, and engagement on social media. Academics’ exodus from X after Musk’s acquisition wasn’t just a response to a change in management—it was a reaction to the loss of their curated, censorship-fueled dominance of online discourse.
Musk’s X dismantled what many academics had relied on: a largely one-sided conversation. Langbert’s study reveals that academia is dominated by progressive ideologies across most fields, with engineering being the only discipline approaching anything close to balance, with a 1.6:1 Democrat-to-Republican ratio. By contrast, communications and interdisciplinary studies—fields often steeped in progressive activism—had ratios so extreme that registered Republicans were entirely absent.
Langbert makes it clear why this matters: the lack of political diversity in academia results in biased research, limited intellectual exploration, and a diminished credibility. Without a diversity of viewpoints, echo chambers thrive. As Langbert points out, this homogeneity affects not just the research itself but also the quality of education students receive.
Musk’s acquisition of X directly confronted this echo chamber mentality by reopening the platform to competing viewpoints. It was a move that struck at the heart of academic X, which had become a playground for virtue-signaling rather than open debate. Suddenly, those accustomed to controlling the narrative found themselves in a more competitive space. In response, many chose to exit, unable or unwilling to engage in a freer marketplace of ideas.
But the academic retreat from X isn’t just about losing control. It also reflects the reputational risks perceived by scholars. As the Vibes Are Off study indicates, many prominent academics saw remaining on Musk’s X as tacitly endorsing his version of free speech, including the reinstatement of figures like Donald Trump. The paper notes that higher-profile accounts were more likely to disengage—these scholars were particularly wary of being seen on a platform that now tolerated broader political discourse.
Langbert’s study gives us more context for this aversion. When the very fields these academics represent are characterized by extreme ideological homogeneity, the prospect of open debate—especially in a setting where dissent is allowed and even encouraged—is not just uncomfortable; it’s antithetical to their norms. These are fields where intellectual diversity has been systematically excluded for decades, so it’s no wonder that scholars would find Musk’s X environment hostile.
The most telling aspect of this whole saga is that Musk’s X has, by default, become more neutral simply because those who previously monopolized the conversation have departed.
Ironically, the platform is now closer to the “diversity of thought” that academia claims to champion but rarely practices. The exodus of academics, while unfortunate for them, has leveled the playing field, allowing more voices—whether liked or not—to participate.
In sum, Musk’s X takeover and the subsequent academic retreat are case studies in how progressive institutions respond to the loss of control. When they can no longer dictate the terms of debate, they either rage impotently or exit altogether. The lesson here is not just about social media dynamics; it’s about the broader implications of free speech in an increasingly ideologically polarized society. Musk has forced a confrontation with the reality that if you open the gates to a wider variety of voices, some people will pack up and leave. And as the Langbert study shows, when it comes to ideological homogeneity, academia is already well-practiced in avoiding dissent.
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When I was at San Jose State University in the early 1970’s, a significant proportion of the faculty was still openly upset George McGovern lost.
McGopher lost simply because he wasn’t a good candidate. Much like Harris is a bad candidate for that particular chair. She is a good candidate though for that ever important query…”Would you like Fries with that?”
McGovern had also led a committee to “reform” the nominating process, and played with the new rules to get nominated. He alienated Unions, city bosses, and Southerners, just to mention a few interest groups he annoyed.
Dems just love to try and reshape the rules so only dems can win
“”Would you like Fries with that?””
No, she has never worked at MacDonald’s..
MacDonald’s don’t serve word-salad.
Just to show how things have changed, in 1968 we had a mock Presidential election, Nixon vs Humphrey. Majority of the faculty voted for Humphrey. The students voted for Nixon. The students were more conservative than the profs.
Great article. One that could surely never have appeared on the old Twitter. I know that, in the article, ‘Democratic’ was used with a capital ‘D’, but I prefer to see the party referred to as ‘Democrat’, because of their undemocratic attitude.
Think of DDR, PDRNK, etc.
I prefer to see the party referred to as ‘Democrat’
Am I the only one who remembers when they referred to themselves that way?
The main question is…
Can the Left tolerate having their viewpoints brought into question?
The main answer is NO!!!
But the real question is…
Why can’t the left tolerate having their viewpoints brought into question??
The real answer is???
The real answer is???
________________________________________________________
Their viewpoint isn’t the goal.
Wise answer!
Trump has answered your question succinctly: their viewpoints defy common sense.
You get more of what you subsidize. Governments subsidize colleges in the form of research grants, student loans, and tax favoritism. That draws in marginal students, researchers, and bureaucrats who would be better employed elsewhere, and creates fields, researchers, students, and administrators whose focus is getting more government subsidy.
They want only your obedience (or more accurately, subservience), not your understanding. Besides it’s racist and/or sexist, etc. to question their opinions. They are, in many Western countries, currently implementing laws that will effectively make it illegal to disagree with them. This tells you a great deal about who they are.
“Why can’t the left tolerate having their viewpoints brought into question??”
Because they are mainly not fact based and thus cannot be logically defended. The simplest of questions brings that out.
In climate, please explain WHY whatever caused the Minoan, Roman and Medieval warm periods, each about 1000 years apart QUIT causing warm periods, at the proper time, to make room for man’s CO2 to cause the current warm period.
Or please explain how CO2 could have caused warming that started BEFORE CO2 increased?
CO2 working via a time warp in not an acceptable answer.
Their entire belief system is an unstable house of cards. They know in their heart of hearts that any jostling will bring it down. So they can’t permit dissent or debate, or they might have to admit they were wrong and the entire house collapses.
And the “golden goose” of government grant funding dies.
That question has recently been answered without equivocation. Such luminaries as Hillary Clinton and John Kerry openly demand that free speech is a threat to the plans of the elite. That has always been the case where tyranny is desired.
Diversity of thought when it comes to hate speech and lies.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/x-twitter-elon-musk-nazi-extremist-white-nationalist-accounts-rcna145020
Because he has absolutly no problem censoring for dictatorships
https://futurism.com/elon-musk-twitter-censors-turkey
Define hate speech.
Any speech/ideas User thinks others shouldn’t be exposed to or disagrees with.
Unfortunately while true that is the current definition.
It is not the literal definition which some are incapable of grasping and so must be spoon fed.
It has no definition because it doesn’t exist.
It has no definition you or musk would accept.
https://www.ips.ac.rs/en/publications/the-unique-case-of-julius-streicher-the-first-international-trial-in-history-for-hate-speech/
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“They’re coming in as terrorists. Many, many terrorists are coming in, and people are coming in with very contagious disease,”
‘”We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,”
“So there were a lot of people that wanted to put her in jail. They didn’t Give a damn. I said, no, you can’t do that. The wife of a president. And then I get in there and they go after me, these animals, these dirty animals.”
Luser LOVES terrorists, Marxist, communists and fascists and radical leftist thugs.. and people with contagious diseases…
They are his/her people.. they are the people of HATE.
ALL the HATE is coming from the democrats (as usual)
Calling Trump supporters “Nazi” because they held a rally at Madison Square Garden…
Forgetting they held the “Klanbake” at MSG in 1924,
Forgetting they held the Democrat National Convention there in 1976,
Forgetting that Clinton held his rally there in 1992.
Almost certainly the democrats have held far more rallies at MSG than the Republicans have.. it is far-left socialist territory afterall…
Who are the real Nazis !!!
We all know it is NOT trump.
The one talking about a group people poisoning the blood of the country? Trying to overthrow the government? Who endorses dictators and wants generals like Hitler had? Wants to use the military against citizens?
Maybe you should listen instead of raging at everything not fitting inside your worldview.
All lies. That you help propagate.
To be expected from someone who gets his news from comedy shows, karlo.
Indeed, point made.
Wait what… are you saying Trump didn’t say those things?
Oh look… the simpleton also likes terrorists, marxists, communists and fascists and radical leftist thugs, trans and racists… and people with contagious diseases…
Not a surprise.
Are you saying that, in all those 5.7M southern border crossings ZERO terrorists were allowed in?
Are you saying that of those 5.7M southern border crossings no-one had a very contagious diseases like Covid? (Remember 2021 when everyone had to stay home, wear a mask, stand 6′ apart AND walk around the stores following arrows on the floor??)
When no-one except Gavin Newsome or Nancy Pelosi could go out to eat indoors at a restaurant or visit the salon?
Nope I’m saying Trump did say those things…
“The one talking about a group people poisoning the blood of the country? Trying to overthrow the government? Who endorses dictators and wants generals like Hitler had? Wants to use the military against citizens?”
I’ll add called politicians who oppose him “the enemy of the people.” That’s pretty fascist/Nazi
Except the democrats DO want to destroy the USA.
That is what ZERO policies and a rancid hatred by calling people Nazis etc. will do.
Importing millions of the lowest degenerates in the world.
You have just admitted that you support all the following
… terrorists, marxists, communists and fascists and radical leftist thugs, trans and racists… and people with contagious diseases…
This shows you are a far-left loser and degenerate
Petty tyrants.. Harris et al.. censorship, fake voters, invented memes etc etc….
A future of censorship, depravity and tyranny… The Kamal.
A future of possibilities…. TRUMP !!
It comes as no surprise to me that you see no problem with a world leader using such vile, racist, fascist, statements like the ones about, when you yourself show time and time again that your strategy of choice is to demean others. You, like Trump, are a coward who thinks it is clever to use childish putdowns. It’s not it’s just shows your level of intellect.
There you go again, believing the rhetoric of a deranged Veep/Presidential candidate who received ZERO popular votes and so had to usurp Biden’s campaign with the aide of the DNC
Vile fascist statements.. you mean like calling people Nazis etc…
You mean the ones coming constantly from the Kamal and her coven….. because they have nothing else !!
The fact that you don’t realise that the statements are totally apt and correct description of many illegal immigrants, and of the Kamal and the other deviant and deranged far-left you worship, says all we need to know about your diminutive intellect.
Your comments are what demeans you.. always.
You have just admitted that you support all the following…
… terrorists, marxists, communists and fascists and radical leftist thugs, trans and racists… and people with contagious diseases…
I just speak the truth about you.. you are so dumb you don’t realise it.
Try not to cry… .
“I just speak the truth about you.. you are so dumb you don’t realise it.
Try not to cry… .”
OK that was genuinely funny and sad at the same time……
Yes, you are a sad little far-left marxist degenerate muppet…
At least you have now admitted that I am correct.
Ask yourself why you support terrorists, marxists, communists and fascists and radical leftist thugs, trans and racists… and people with contagious diseases…
It is because you are one.!
I don’t support any of those but I particularly don’t supports fascists which is why I would never support Trump.
““They’re coming in as terrorists. Many, many terrorists are coming in, and people are coming in with very contagious disease,””
the simpleton would welcome these terrorists on his hands and knees. !
“‘”We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,””
No wonder the democrats are scared. Trump just tells the truth..
These people are VILE.. and the simpleton supports them and welcomes them, because he is one of them.
The fact that there is absolutely NOTHING that is racist, fascist or untoward about either comment.
They are just statements of fact that the far-left cannot handle in their pitiful little minds.
The italicized statement pretty well describes the Democrat Party and their view of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Wants to get rid of the First amendment right to Free Speech (to stop what THEY consider to be Hate Speech but is really the Conservative Viewpoint) AND The Second amendment Right to Bear Arms and form a Militia…to protect the first amendment.
Trump said what he said regarding the southern border invasion and Covid and other problems crossing therein.
Look no further than the Venezuelan Gang issue in Colorado.
It’s only the Dems who are trying to color his remarks as Nazi or white supremacist. Likely in an effort to paint him with a marker that applies more to Kamala. Psychological Projection
Research what he meant by those things and your confusion might go away.
Sounds a lot like the Biden/Harris administration

Its the Democrats you are speaking about…
They weaponized the justice department
Wants to overwrite the First amendment to remove conservative speaking points.
They want to rewrite the second amendment and gradually erode what it allows so that even a 22 rifle with an under barrel magazine that holds 18 rounds is considered an “Assault Rifle”
Like this one
He’s bankrupt—all he has is regurgitation of the lies put out over and over by the likes of Rachel Madcow.
/plonk/
Poor luser… all it can manage is a spew of FAKE far-left media prattle.
I love the part condemning Trump for wanting loyalty from his generals. Apparently you never learned that Lincoln relieved Gen. McClellan at the start of the Civil War for not following his instructions.
Then there was this: “”I fired him [MacArthur] because he wouldn’t respect the authority of the President … I didn’t fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was, but that’s not against the law for generals. If it was, half to three-quarters of them would be in jail.” – Truman
Presidents – all Presidents – want Generals they trust will obey orders.
Oh the logic of it….
Since Trump is not a Democrat and MSG is Democrat territory, his intrusion on their sacred ground can only mean he is a Nazi. Simple.
/sarc (as if it’s needed)
User is the definition.
Musk is also currently getting no support from the Biden administration, especially when dealing with Brazil and the EU.
Nazis? So you’re telling us the democrats haven’t departed?
Luser has absolutely no diversity of thought.
Zero is always zero.
Luser HATES anything that isn’t 10km left of centre.
150 premium accounts. An issue, but a crisis?
Censoring is dictatorship, and the censors get to decide what is hateful and what is a lie. In general, anything that conflicts with a given narrative is a lie, and hate is tolerated and even encouraged if the object of the hate is inconvenient to the censors. Hate of Trump, of “deplorables”, of “flyover” residents, etc. is applauded—the left revels in acceptable hate.
At least on an open platform hate can be ridiculed and exposed for what it is in all of its forms, and lies can be challenged, especially the official ones that are sponsored by the state and the activist institutions. Why do you think the academics spotlighted in this essay have fled? They cannot withstand the scrutiny that transparency permits.
There is nothing surprising about this. The CAGW crowd has no science to support its claims. The social sciences seem to yap the most and know the least. If we get in their face with facts/science they have to fold because our side isn’t just making stuff up. Elon has shown openly confronting these monsters will make them fade away. We need to push them hard.
One thing for sure. If academics have to call their stuff ‘social sciences’ then the one thing you can be sure about is that it isn’t ‘science’. NOBODY calls physics, chemistry, or geology a ‘science’. We just know it is. We know all that other ‘science’ stuff (including ‘climate science’) isn’t. Saying it is does not make it so.
The most extreme example is Political Science. There’s nothing scientific about it. For the past half century, in many universities, it’s nothing more than an introduction to Marxism and the supposed joys of Soviet hagiography.
Sanitation Engineer versus garbage collector.
Those who are truly confident desire challenge to their ideas and display good sportsmanship to their opposition.
How many AGW proponents display that behavior?
Cue the “Zero point zero” clip…
What these Socialist/Marxist purveyors don’t realize is if their government nirvana becomes real they will be the first to go on the chopping block.
Well, most of them. I’m sure Trotsky and Stalin both thought they’d be in charge.
But the dispute between them was never going to be the sort of polite, academic debate with agreed rules that academics pretend the world should be ruled by. It was determined by an ice pick to the brain.
It isn’t just academics on X. Reports are that by this afternoon, WaPo has lost 200,000 digital subscriptions since announcing it would not endorse Harris—or anyone else. Bezos, like Musk, can afford those losses easily.
I think there is something much bigger going on, triggered by excessive TDS.
Russia collusion was a Dem hoax initiated by Hillary and perpetrated by the FBI. Two sham impeachments where Schiff did NOT have the goods despite claiming otherwise. Weaponized AG James and special prosecutor Smith, not to mention Fanni Willis in Georgia. Fake news CBS recently caught doctoring a Harris word salad on 60 Minutes (stupidly released a promo undoctored, then the actual show doctored). New York’s Hasidic Jews formally endorsed Trump this morning after Harris, Dems, and NYT labeled last nights MSG rally fascist. TDS extremes have ripped the blinders off those who thought everything was mostly OK when it mostly wasn’t.
Things like CRT, DEI, and trans men in women’s sports go against foundational American principles. Trump has exposed it, and after 20Jan2025 will set about fixing it—especially if R’s also take the Senate and keep the House, as appears increasingly likely. Good thing he appears to be tireless.
No more PHS Admiral ‘Rachel’ Richard Levine. No more ‘Lia’ Thomas, who competed as a mediocre male swimmer for three years in college before transing and setting ‘women’s records’ ‘her’ senior year at Penn.
Don’t know. It sounds like too close to call, from the polling I have seen. Nate Silver has Trump with a slightly better chance. But most polls seem to show Harris slightly ahead, and even Silver has it pretty close. Its a real cliff hanger, this one.
Trump is reportedly ahead in the swing states, and seems set to win provided the cheating is kept out this time.
Polls over sample dems so as to make results from cheating more plausible.
Cmon we all know Biden had more votes than Obama did when he ran 😉
Yeah, Michigan, for example, has a half million more registered voters than are actually eligible.
So did LA county, who at 110% of all eligible voters registered, refused to purge the voter rolls. Fortunately they were sued by Judicial Watch and lost. They had to remove 1.5 million names.
It’s not close. Check the ‘betting markets’ Trump by 70%
You all may be right. I would take Silver over the betting markets, and would also take Silver over the polls, so I think Trump is narrowly favored. But even Silver is not calling it cut and dried, just calling a fairly modest greater likelihood of a Trump victory.
Whatever, this is going to be one to watch.
It does seem clear that if Trump loses there will be very widespread allegations of electoral fraud. Its understandable. If you believe, reasonably or not, that your side is ahead, and then it turns out to lose on the count, that will seem a plausible explanation.
But if one side in a democracy largely doesn’t accept the integrity of the electoral process the country is in real trouble. There have been cases in the past where the result was probably not very clean. Read, I think it was Sorenson’s, account of the Kennedy/Nixon election. He was worried as the early Illinois votes came in that it wasn’t going well. But the campaign people were very pleased. They explained to him that Mayor Daley was holding back till he knew how many votes were needed! Think it was Sorenson, not 100% sure.
That result was accepted. But it was a much less fraught and bitter cultural environment, before the culture wars. If fraud is widely blamed by his supporters for a Trump defeat this time it may be very different.
We are not a democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic.
Both, surely? Not a democracy in the sense of ‘direct democracy’, that’s true. A Constitutional Republic, and democratic with it.
Election fraud discovered and being prosecuted in 2 Pennsylvania districts.
I agree- I think Trump’s win will be substantial.
Silver thinks that either win might be “substantial”. Look at his 1000 coin toss PDF. Big tails…
What do you call substantial?
You could be right, a lot of commenters agree with you based on personal intuition or sensing a mood where they live.
But depending on how big a win you mean by substantial, that would involve a very large, maybe unprecedented, failure by just about all the polls.
Silver is now as of today calling it 50/50, with a personal slight gut feeling for Trump, but a caution that no-one’s gut feeling, including his, is to be trusted. We shall see!
surveys are trivially small, statistically- so not very useful
I’m surprised there hasn’t been any mention on WUWT of Trump’s recent discussion on the Joe Rogan show. It’s 3 hours and interesting.
There seems to be a general sense of desperation in the Harris camp. I suspect that internal polling does not reflect as much ambiguity as public polling. Why else the move from Joy-joy to bitter recrimination, and the seeking of potentially hostile interviews with FOX and Joe Rogan? A campaign does not change its tactics this late in the game unless the existing game plan is going awry. Note also down-ballot candidates adopting a more Trump-friendly message.
The UK Telegraph agrees with you:
Moreover, there is ample reason not to believe the polls. In each of Trump’s last two bids for the White House, he was wildly underestimated in the swing states where he is now leading or lagging only just behind Harris. That, plus the preemptive finger-pointing campaign, anonymous whispers to reporters, and palpable panic on the part of the Harris campaign suggest that, while it is possible she might win, she probably won’t. Reports this morning that her aides are quietly confident of victory ought to be taken with a bucket load of salt.
We shall see.
At times it seems like a very coordinated tong term attack on critical thinking.
Where does the money come from for this kind of destructive stunt?
One could point at Tinsel Town Hollywood for indulging in profitable fantasy and warping their world view in the process.
And Newsom just proposed increasing the massive subsidies to Hollywood, using our tax dollars.
Need a bigger majority in the House than current one.
the very fields these academics represent are characterized by extreme ideological homogeneity
Those characteristics indicate that those ‘fields’ are really churches, and don’t include inquisitive academics at all – rather, they banish them if at all possible.
“X functioned as an echo chamber where progressive academics freely exchanged ideas”
What’s wrong with freely exchanging ideas? But Twitter, and X, always allowed you to modify your feed as you wished. Twitter was by default people you follow only; X has a new default “for you”, with lashings of junk, but you can still shift to people you follow only if you want. And there is still full freedom to mute and block.
People may be leaving X because they don’t like Musk or some such, but more likely because X is pushing more junk into their feed. But you can get rid of most of it.
Censorship was massive. To ignore this is willful ignorance.
Not convinced. But there was plenty on Twitter I didn’t want to read. So I selected (censored?), which was the only practical way of using the platform. I limited the feed to people I followed, and blocked or muted other unwanted sources that got in. I can do that on X, so my environment hasn’t changed much, although a bit more unwanted stuff is being smuggled in. But it is manageable. None of these, in itself, is a reason to leave.
Incidentally I have always followed WUWT, without difficulty.
Avoided the Twitter Files, did we?
Always difficult to tell what level of awareness Nick has. The pre-X Twitter people may have been doing censorship at an unconstitutional level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWv12FMtPSs&t=14s
Isn’t there a pic of Comey, I think, with an office at Fb?
Stokes gaslighting reminds of Anthony Fauci, who would say just about anything to keep the virus pseudo-crisis alive; Stokes will say just about anything to keep the climate pseudo-crisis alive
We like reading your posts, Nick…
… they are always marked by a hilarious self-righteousness, with nothing to back it up.
You did not censor. You discriminated. You segregated that which you wished to read from that you wished to not see.
Hi Nick. I got into a massive debate in an investing forum about climate. I repeatedly mentioned your name specifically as someone from the other side who knew their stuff. I’ve learned a few things about the science from you over the years.
But when you are a blind to the censorship that prevailed on X pre Musk, you need to back up and look at the big picture again. I’ve been banned from multiple patforms. Back when CNN was still allowing comments on their articles, they quoted the IPCC and got two studies completely reversed. I tried to help out in comments by calling out the error and giving them the exact page in the report they were quoting for them to reference for themselves. They deleted the comment and banned me.
I wasn’t active on twitter back then, but from anecdotal stories from others it was the same. Even the truth from their own references could get you banned.
I will argue physics with you all day long and expect that the points you will make will be factual, even if you and I draw different conclusions from them. But pretending that the censorship wasn’t real, that should be a bridge too far, even for you.
Well, thanks, but I just said I’m not convinced about Twitter. But the main point is that removing whatever there was would not cause anyone to leave, if they manage their feed properly. X and Twitter (and all social media) give you ample scope to censor what you see.
Do I really need to find a dozen stories of the academics’ trantrums and running off to bluesky or mastodon for you? That previous sentence gives you all the search strings you need to find them on your own.
Never mind, I found a paper on it. “The Failed Migration of Academic Twitter”
Oh and Nick, that paper is about the first initial attempt at fleeing, which overwhelmingly failed. The paper I cited in the article is more current, a result of the withering of frail academics to other ideas.
Many may leave because they don’t like Musk or his policies. But they are unaffected personally by censorship. I don’t believe anyone in my X feed was even censored (including WUWT). So if there are posts now that wouldn’t have been allowed before, I simply won’t see them, unless I go looking. Nor will most of these academics. So that isn’t a reason to leave.
You say the fleeing failed. I think that backs up my case. There wasn’t any actual reason to flee.
No, they are cowardly leftists that know they can’t put up rational arguments.
They have lost their “safe space”… diddums. !!
Funny how people who want EV’s to replace ICE vehicles in order to “save the earth” don’t like Elon Musk.
I don’t believe that it’s censorship causing them to leave but rather the lack of it. They don’t want to be associated with a platform that allows those that disagree with them to have an unfettered voice presented to the world. Especially if those voiced present facts that are counter to their own POV.
From everything I’ve read, you have it exactly right, Bryan
Nobody cares if you are convinced by twitter or not, Nick !!
Totally irrelevant.
Removing the far-left echo chamber, means all your cowardly leftists mates lost their safe space.. and went off crying to mummy. !
And equally, even less care about what you think of Nick.
It is simply another aspect of your anger managemant issues related to the way your life has gone and the world not bending to it.
Either buy a straight jacket with gloves or else see a psychiatrist …. for several years.
Far-left echo-chambers my arse.
The ony ones remotely venemous and dangerous to society are such as this .. that actively encoursge emnity, based on lies, and mis-information egging on the faithfull with dog-whistle headlines equating scientists to far-leftists.
Such are the echo-chambers mobilising the rabid for TRUMP.
The single most dangerous man on the planet, that the US is unable to bring to account for his federal crimes to what the rest of the world see as an odius simpleton attention-defecite afflicted, orange-tnted lying narcissistic sociopthathic criminal with no regard for rules or equity.
Find me the equivalent leftist.
The differences in perception are because of the predisposition of right-wingers to hit out/lie first, double down on said lies and then deny the bleeding obvious.
It is obviously not important there – but to me whatever/whoever you vote for should be a decent human being – and not becasue you don’t want a woman to be president or becasue you lke his policies better. I would believe zero uttered from that smarmy mouth – much less what he’d said to Putin (as did nobody too the last time).
Because many US voters on the right are downright numpties – it works, aided of course by the so called “leftist” media.
Think Fox” LOL.
There aren’t enough mega-rich leftists who have corruptly obtained their billions to gain power and then mobilise it … or perhaps outside the US enough stupid uneducated citizens who recon that they can vote the dictator out of office if not to their liking down the line.
You only get to vote once for a dicatorship.
Oh, and it will be once – he’ll get his arse-licking, on the make, would be billionaires in there PDQ.
The next one will be selected by nepotism.
So the US is going down the lines of Hitler (stopped by WW2), Stalin, The chinese Guy, and the N Korean one + a host of smaller despots.
Now where are the Socalist dictators??
Banton is so desperate/stupid he still thinks the Alfa Bank Hoax was real.
Funny how this supposed “echo chamber” allows dissenting comments…
Sorry, but you are wrong on so many points.
Poor Banton. all he can manage is to make himself look like an abject and totally moronic far-left stooge with massive TDS
Looks like Banton has been taking “word-salad” lessons from a Kamal !
What a truly deranged rant from him.
The word “triggered” come to mind…. Hilarious. !!
Is this you? Because your posts always read like the embodiment of triggered 😛
Projection time.
Gees, Luser.. Great to see you.
I’m sorry Nick, but I did catch the tail end of this when I joined twitter. I saw an exchange between two “climate scientists”, one urging the other to get off twitter because by participating they were giving “the misinformation” legitimacy. They didn’t even know what responses they were going to get yet, but they already classified them as “misinformation”.
Well, people say all sorts of things, especially on twitter.
The point is that the self-deluded don’t want to hear the truth and risk undeluding themselves.
More bullshit, Stokes. Twitter was a massive censorship machine taking orders from the federal government.
Nick seems to equating the user choosing what he wants to see and the platforms (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc.) choosing/blocking what the platform doesn’t want you to see.
Yes, typical Stokesian sophistry, twist the discussion into something else entirely.
Stokes is incredibly slippery. Arguing with him is like trying to nail jelly to the wall – he changes his argument subtly as one tries to rebut it.
“What’s wrong with freely exchanging ideas?”
NOTHING… That is why most of your far-leftist cronies cannot abide the new X.
They HATE the idea of a free exchange of ideas.
People don’t leave because of all the JUNK you post Nick… We laugh instead. 🙂
But leftists are renowned to being cowardly censorial twits.
Oh dear. Poor nit-pick Nick. Doing what you criticise others of doing. That’s called hypocrisy.
Shall we see the entire quote, not just the bit you cherry-picked?
(my bold)
It’s the lack of opposition that is the problem, not the free exchange of ideas.
People who are convinced that they are always right also prefer one party states. In fact, politically, that’s their stated goal. No room for opposite opinions, they are all racists and white supremicist.
The threat to democracy is based on the Democrat’s definition of democracy, which is one party autocracy with the D in charge, permanently.
Trump did a video, it was published. In it he called everyone to vote. He declared each could vote by any of the means available, early, DoE, mail in, drop box, but encouraged everyone to vote. He declared everyone should vote as they wish, but again encouraged everyone to vote.
Would a tyrant wannabe tell people to vote, but not how to vote?
Anyone who claims Trump is a fascist dictator must explain why he failed to manifest such traits between 2016 and 2020. (I like the Babylon Bee’s explanation, that he simply forgot).
But you can get rid of most of it.
As I have done here…! And what a relief it continues to be!
Its nice to live in your personally created padded cell, hey michel. !
I wonder if Charles the Moderator has found his way into michel’s vaunted killfile list yet.
Thank goodness for Elon Musk and X. I note that Wikipedia has ramped up its efforts to promote climate alarmism. We all know that Wikipedia deleted its list of sceptical climate scientists in 2020 because it was gaining too many highly qualified and respected scientists. Guess what! Those same scientists now appear in a list which to a casual observer would all be supporters of the climate alarmism.
Wikipedia claims almost total support for the climate nonsense: Scientific consensus on climate change
and now produces just one list of climate scientists, including the sceptical ones without comment as if they all support the alarm: List of climate scientists
Has Wikipedia no shame. (Question mark omitted because it’s a rhetorical question).
The number of signatures for Clintel’s World Climate Declaration has also been steadily increasing over the past two years that I’ve been monitoring it.
https://clintel.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/WCD-241023.pdf
You probably will not find that on Wiki.
ask yourself how many agw proponents comment here
or have you successfully hounded thm all off.
How is the bitcoin mining going with your solar panels?
LOL, you still manage to be here………
ZOOM!!!!!!!!
The fact that trolls like TheFinalNail are allowed to comment here without ever being moderated shows that WUWT is one of the most tolerant weather forums on the internet.
fungal’s posts are hilarious slop-stick comedy.
Only purpose seems to give us all a good laugh.
Feeling unloved, buddy? Try huddling in the cold and dark in your mud hut while you starve to death. Or was that your prescription for everybody else but you?
Always interesting to see what triggers Mosher into action.
Whatever happened to you?
Are you saying they were totally unable to make a rational case… so left ??
I guess they would need to learn to write in proper English first, hey !!
There are a limited number of regulars, of any viewpoint. Quite a few of them write interesting comments, and some are just “special”.
Mosher STILL hasn’t mastered English punctuation.
And never will.
This caught my eye because when large groups of people work in a vacuum, they tend to become stale in their thinking process especially when there is no alternative thoughts and opinion being allowed in their bubble which is why they become stupid over time when their delusions grow and grow over time.
My own family are a classic example on why they are so clueless on their being manipulated and lied to over the Climate scam via the media and their own ideology ridden leftist democrat party.
Without a diversity of viewpoints, echo chambers thrive.
Like this one?:
https://www.realclimate.org/
And this one
https://skepticalscience.com/
Both of these are echo chambers….
They are also basically just vacuous, scientifically-empty abysses.
Don’t forget Desmog Blog
https://www.desmog.com
Mosher is correct. Everyone needs to have and consider differing viewpoints. It is essential to changing ones mind.
That’s why no thinking person should ever join a political party.
I can’t tolerate intolerance.
I don’t give a fig either way.
People can be as tolerant or intolerant as they like.
But I do find appeasement rather sickening, though.
I get a laugh out of the rabid hypocrisy of leftist intolerance,
… and those that feel they have to hide from other people’s comments, because they are too fragile to cope.
PATHETIC little humans..
Humor – a difficult concept.
— Lt. Saavik
Boring but when I was director of public relations for the Royal Navy I knew a TV producer who said he was the only Conservative voter in the BBC. I can believe that.
Have we got any definitive split between these intellectuals for Joe and those for Kamala?
Progressive ideology cannot survive critical examination. That is why criticism is forbidden and contrarian views no platformed.
There is a reason why the right welcome debate and the left wish to eradicate freedom of speech.
Bravo. A nice summation of how the climate activists run from debate because they know their arguments are weak and won’t stand up to scrutiny.
Sorry, but as an engineering major who attended a large university, I laugh at the idea of liberal arts majors being “the college educated”. I knew too many of them. Almost zero critical-thinking skills. I’m always reminded of the Scarecrow character in the Wizard of Oz who wasn’t really all that smart, but at least he had a degree.