W. Hudson Bay sea ice not going away anytime soon as polar bears sit tight offshore

From Polar Bear Science

Susan Crockford

A broad band of sea ice is jammed up against the western shore of Hudson Bay, hanging on despite warm mid-July temperatures. Its unusual thickness suggests it won’t be gone anytime soon, which means most Western Hudson Bay polar bears will likely remain offshore for at least a few more weeks.

The dark blue in the “departure from normal” chart below shows just how unusual this phenomenon is for the northern reaches of Hudson Bay:

Sea ice thickness

For the week of 15 July 2024, sea ice on Hudson Bay is still at least 1m thick (medium green) but up to 2m thick in places (dark green). The thickest ice extends into Foxe Basin to the north:

Polar bears on ice

Bears tagged by University of Alberta researchers are almost all still on the ice — only two have come ashore so far:

As I remarked last week, it’s getting harder and harder for polar bear specialists to ignore the fact that their assumptions about sea ice concentration and polar bear behaviour during the ice-melt season was flat-out wrong. This year, some WH bears could again remain on the ice until August, despite what has been, on paper, the earliest breakup year on record for Hudson Bay sea ice.

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strativarius
July 20, 2024 6:31 am

W. Hudson Bay sea ice not going away anytime soon 

Bear with us…

Every year has its idiosyncrasies

Scissor
Reply to  strativarius
July 20, 2024 6:58 am

It’s almost as if bears have minds of their own and don’t read the literature.

strativarius
Reply to  Scissor
July 20, 2024 7:16 am

They used to sell sweets before they were told about the evils of capitalism

July 20, 2024 6:46 am

“it’s getting harder and harder for polar bear specialists to ignore the fact that their assumptions about sea ice concentration and polar bear behaviour during the ice-melt season was flat-out wrong”

Time to put some pressure on them about this? Ask them to explain why their prophecies were wrong? I know nothing about this topic- but for one thing- if humans don’t kill the bears, they’ll be thriving.

strativarius
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 20, 2024 7:19 am

“”“it’s getting harder and harder for polar bear specialists””

But not impossible.

Reply to  strativarius
July 20, 2024 9:54 am

From the perspective of their careers it is impossible to NOT ignore the fact that their assumptions about sea ice concentration and polar bear behaviour during the ice-melt season were flat-out wrong

strativarius
Reply to  MCourtney
July 20, 2024 10:07 am

That’s where a poker face comes in.

hdhoese
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 20, 2024 12:00 pm

“…flat-out wrong.” Nice to see real science and have to wonder how many research topics don’t get treated like this as they should and if they did would they survive. There are a few, but based on a random search of two, one was not too bad but one ended like this–“…. information and knowledge on environmental thresholds is a further critical component to management success.” Gee, I didn’t know that!! It took 12 authors from three continents with dozens of references to teach or is it preach this.

oeman50
July 20, 2024 6:50 am

It’s the Bears’ Choice….

Scissor
Reply to  oeman50
July 20, 2024 7:00 am

That’s why they shouldn’t have guns.

strativarius
Reply to  Scissor
July 20, 2024 7:44 am

Surely that’s the [future] simians?

Reply to  oeman50
July 20, 2024 10:59 am

I see what you did there. I used to have that album.

John Hultquist
July 20, 2024 8:48 am

polar bears will likely remain offshore for at least a few more weeks.

Sort of a summer vacation at the beach.

July 20, 2024 12:15 pm

Once again, is it bears or the seals that need the sea ice?

July 20, 2024 1:11 pm

MASIE Hudson Bay sea ice.

Yes, it started to clear early, but is now back near “normal”

Hudson-Bay-sea-ice
July 20, 2024 6:07 pm

I’m a chemist and had a career as an industrial research manager. It’s incredible that academic scientists cannot accept that their theory is wrong after the data comes in. I lived with this my whole career. You’re not a scientist when the data rebukes your theory and refuse to accept it

Ireneusz
July 21, 2024 3:44 am

The temperature above the 80th parallel in summer does not rise and will fall as the angle of the Earth’s axis decreases.
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Coeur de Lion
Reply to  Ireneusz
July 21, 2024 7:07 am

Dear Ireneusz – it’s so good to find someone else fond of this Danish(?) graph. Everyone note that it’s 80North plus, that since 1958 the Arctic had risen to a frightening degree and a half positive C for about a month every year without trend or change. Otherwise freezing. So where’s this warming Arctic? Couple spikes in winter months but still very sub zero.

Ireneusz
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
July 21, 2024 8:43 am

These spikes over the pole in winter are frost waves in mid-latitudes.