Massive #tornado with multiple vortices rips down windmills and damages homes in Iowa including Greenfield, Iowa. Dominator FPV drone orbited the tornado racing northeast at 55 mph. Dominator 3 could have directly intercepted this tornado. Major tornado outbreak underway
On May 21, 2024, multiple powerful tornadoes tore through southwest Iowa, resulting in fatalities and significant damage. The town of Greenfield, home to about 2,000 people, was hit especially hard. The Adair County Memorial Hospital sustained tornado damage, forcing some storm victims to seek assistance elsewhere. The destruction in Greenfield left a large section of the town leveled, with multiple fatalities and more than a dozen injuries
H/T Dr. Roy Spencer
The last article was about bbc using a tragedy for propaganda…
A tragedy unrelated to the global warming propaganda in the BBC article. Windmills that only exist because of your propaganda are directly related to global warming.
Gotta love the futility of using weather dependent generation to reduce their vaunted weather control knob … CO2 … and have the.weather tell them NOT!!!
Water from the oceans, especially from the tropics, evaporating and condensing, as needed, is the control knob
All else is IPCC cabal bull mature, based on their proprietary, faux, we-own-the science
Where is the propaganda? This is straight news.
Just wait…Nick and BrainUser are bound to show up soon enough to give the straight news proper-ganda
According to the left, propaganda is anything that makes them look bad.
Yes, the Marxism-based psychology warps words to suit its agenda.
Perhaps not in this story but other reports are blaming “Climate Change”, which in propaganda language means only one thing: human produced CO2.
https://grist.org/extreme-weather/home-insurance-midwest-climate-disasters/
I don’t know how to go about finding it but the claim about increasing real property insurance costs, if true, regardless of the CC related claim, should be somewhere. Not many years ago various large insurance companies and insurance organizations were openly stating that insurance is not being effected by CC. In regard to the report referenced above, the question to be answered is
1. Are insurance costs going up faster than the inflation rate?
2. If so, can a reason be found in available data?
3. If no non-climate reason can be found, is there any weather data that supports more destructive tornadoes? In general, the data has supported a major decrease in destructive tornadoes although if one looks at a very short period of time wherein several tornadoes occurred, a different, if invalid, picture might be drawn.
Of course companies might be increasing premiums beyond any actual costs increases just because the general propaganda gives them some cover.
“I don’t know how to go about finding it but the claim about increasing real property insurance costs, if true, regardless of the CC related claim, should be somewhere.”
Big article today in the NYT about how cc is causing property insurance rates to go up.
It sounds like cc is just an excuse to raise rates. I doubt if temperature increasing a degree or two in 50 years damages property.
Rates are rising due to inflation. That’s the real reason why insurance rates are rising.
Yes.
A known problem is people building closer into forest.
Another is fiefdoms blocking clearing of brush near buildings.
There are measures for fire resistance, such as keeping property clean including roof gutters free of conifer needles. And perhaps certain types of siding, and metal roof covering (insulation needed between metal and wood). Smart insurance companies will be checking properties – a mess next to me caught fire a few days ago, thankyou fire department for quick response and suppression. Close call as overgrown ugly oak tree next to fire has branches touching roof of apartment building.
Good questions. Costs are increasing, and property in particular… so I would expect insurance cost to go up too 🙂
I judge that some insurance companies are taking advantage of alarmism to raise rates.
Notably one which employed a PR person ‘Aaron’ from Insurance Bureau of Canada statement: Government of Canada’s National Adaptation Strategy – Insurance-Canada.ca – Where Insurance & Technology Meet
There are various factors in insurance, one I’ve observed is that companies lower rates to gain business then suddenly realize they are losing money so jump rates up.
Smart insurers work hard to judge actual risk. Simple examples are type of construction of building and distance from fire hydrant(s).
You don’t know the meaning of words do you? Probably your biggest problem.
No, his biggest problem is that he is a leftist Whack job who swallows leftist propaganda deeply and uncritically.
Actually MyUsername confessed his intentions are purely entertainment, meaning he stirs things up for his own amusement.
Best to talk about him but refrain from talking to him.
A wind-up merchant
What else should it be, do you think I get paid to post here? So of course I want to get entertainment value out of it. All my links / posts reflect my opinion and forecasts I agree with. I never post things I don’t agree with to “stir things up”.
But you are always free to ignore it.
Fun fact: At noon today in Los Angeles the temperature was 65 °F. At noon today in Novosibirsk, Siberia it was also 65 °F. Moscow was 68 °F and Helsinki was 66 °F.
seems impossible- must be due to climate change! /s
Jacket weather.
Here in Vermont, it was 87 F, 3 pm yesterday
Nobody with an ounce of sanity would pay you to post anywhere.
You are a moronic gullible brain-dead muppet with absolutely nothing worthwhile to say.
There have been those who claim that somebody is paying these trolls to post here, because they do such a good job of discrediting the global warming scam.
Hey! that’s not “bnice”…
Facts are what they are… they don’t have to be nice
Don’t you understand that you are delivering exactly the reaction they want? The aim is to wind you up into coming out with a string of insults, and you fall for it every time.
The clue is that when you give MyUserName a reasoned, well argued quantified reply he (or she) simply vanishes.
Its a drive-by mentality, its aim is to wind everyone up, not engage in debate, but degrade the site by the reactions provoked.
Stop falling for it!
MyUserName is an attention-seeking troll.
Although I’m sometimes unsure if he’s a semi-intelligent chatbot or a semi-intelligent person. He often does not seem to understand what he’s posting.
He’s about as genuine as a three-dollar bill.
I think you used the wrong word. He never understands what he’s posting and his links are always to gibberish.
This is why I say he is like a wrestling heel. Playing a bit part. You’re supposed to oppose him because it is so easy. It’s kind of entertaining in that light. Plus it gives ample opportunity to counter with real info.
It’s WUWT’s Iron Sheik. Jabronies.
That’s called a troll.
Green prayer wheels are expensive and fragile, apart from being intermittent.
A few years back, a tornado hit a coal plant. It was up and running again in a few hours.
This one was a monster, I’m not sure any above ground construction would have survived it
In Puerto Rico, where people are impoverished, the wind/solar merchants of evil, $convinced the local Mafia to have wind turbines and solar panels, so they could show themselves to the gullible people as “progressive”, be “energy independent”
Then, the first hurricane arrived and wiped out all the wind turbines and solar panels, in addition to the usual damage.
However, the loans incurred to pay for all of it were still held by European banks, who demanded payment.
The people of Puerto Rico were super-screwed up and down and sideways,
Many came to the US to be bailed out by government programs run by idiot-led Democrats, who are in favor of expensive, highly subsidized dysfunctional wind and solar, paid for by printing $billions of dollars
Trump needs to win by a landslide to wipe out all the bull manure of the Obama/Biden years
The last article was about an illogical connection with a tragedy, as justification to change the world social structure through the demonization of oil.
This article points out that windmills are, in most cases, not going to pencil out (as advertized and promoted).
(the fact that windmills were destroyed is not tragedy).
How much coal and petroleum will be needed to replace the destroyed wind turbines?
Do you really care about the environment?
How much fossil fuels went into the creation of the now destroyed windmills?
Absolutely ZERO propaganda… so what the **** are you yabbering about ??
How is pointing out how vulnerable wind and solar are to the vagaries of weather, propaganda?
Do you ever think for yourself?
People getting hurt and killed. That’s a tragedy.
A couple of whirly-gigs getting blown over is a farce.
And of course, you believe there never were any tornadoes before 1950. Don’t worry, click your heels together and say “there’s no place like home” 3 times and you’ll be fine. Not sure that will stop the farmhouse falling on your mother though.
This isn’t propaganda. It’s revenge.🤣
That’s a spectacular video Reed caught. WOW.
It is an ill wind that blows no good.
This was not an ill wind.
It’s nature. Completely natural. Nothing to do with climate change.
A question I have posed before in another context:
Q. If you had a button which would permanently switch off all tornadoes for ever, would you press it?
NO!!! A tornado is a massive heat engine, and it exists only under specific circumstances, which means it does something, even if it causes some damage(s) when it does it, I think it might even be a relief valve. Imagine if you eliminate a PRV from a steam boiler, just because the last time it relieved it burned your pretty little cheek. So then the boiler has no means to relieve an overpressure, what happens the next time the boiler reaches overpressure conditions? I picture much the same proportion of problems if we eliminate tornadoes.
This is a great analogy. Good going.
Perhaps less directly relevant, but another analogy are drugs that “relieve inflammation” instead of stopping what is causing the inflammation. Of course we know that inflammation is a necessary part of healing, which if blocked, reduces ability to heal.
I’m not offering an opinion but I know that reducing inflammation is widely considered an important, and more or less necessary, step to promote healing.
“Reducing inflammation” is not a well used phrase. If you have “inflammation” something caused the need for it. And it is not pleasant when it gets out of control.
The antioxidants and inflammation reducing nutrients/chemicals/steroids and NSAIDs work differently. But some antioxidants, good nutrition and avoidance of things that cause insult to the cells can lead to a reduction in inflammation caused by the body’s repair processes.
In summary, Inflammation is the body’s response to injury. This includes growing muscle after a heavy workout.
Sometimes, inflammation is so out of control that steroids or NSAIDs can really help. I used to need a steroids and go on one or two cycles of a nebulizer every couple of years to deal with my previously lifelong Asthma and Bronchitis.
It’s been 5 years or so since I have had any Asthma or Bronchitis.
I’m still in awe every day I can inhale without restriction.
One of the Dik Francis books features the villains’ attempt to cause a boiler to blow up (Francis’ protagonist hides behind the boiler), and I won’t be a plot spoiler…
. . . to which an answer of either “yes” or “no” would be completely meaningless.
A philosophical question, given the science and technology are well beyond any reach to accomplish this.
Answer: No. Not all, not forever.
Context: If being able to switch off a tornado before it inflicted tragedy was available, then case by case a valid decision could be made.
Yes but slippery slope.
I am not sure how causing a tornado to avoid levelling a town and killing/wounding many people is a slippery slope.
Can you expand your thought?
Anytime we humans attempt to modify weather, there are consequences. If this was your meaning, then I can agree.
Hi Sparta Nova 4: re: .”..Anytime we humans attempt to modify weather, there are consequences. If this was your meaning, then I can agree.”
That’s what I meant. And there could be a whole library of books on the subject. Certainly pros and cons would be argued to the end of time.
If you were able to guide it, that would be handy.
Make it miss all the towns and farms, and take out all the wind turbines.
If I had a button that would permanently make all wind turbines disappear I would tell the world about it, give them three years to make adjustments, then smash the hell out of the button. : )
I hope not before it had acomplished its mission.
You’d be long dead at the end of three years.
The same could be asked of hurricanes and typhoons. I like Red94ViperRT10’s response, although I think he should shorten his username. RedDodgeViper would have worked just fine. :^)
Wind turbines in tornado alley. Big solar farms in massive hail country. Mother Nature providing the inevitable results.
Greenies apparently lack common sense—which isn’t so common.
Yes! Hilarious! (except for the tragedies of it all.) This green energy makes less and less sense every year.
Could you imagine what the greenies would say if traditional power power plants were destroyed due to “normal weather”?
Tornado says: “wind power? Hold my beer”
Have to confess, smiled watching windmills go down…
While there is quite a lot of irony in the situation, I abhor destruction.
First the investment made is gone. That money could have and should have been put to better use.
That’s known as a sunk cost.
Second, and more important is the resources needed to clean up a mess that never should have been made. That is a tragedy.
This is education!
Apollo 1 was also, in your context, education.
Challenger and Columbia were also, in your context, education.
Every mistake or tragedy is an educational opportunity. If you don’t learn from them…
blown cost?
( except those constructed in water)
I like that expression.
Gaia is using tornadoes to show how she feels about windmills scaring her face!
I had the same thought. You beat me to it. Well met, David.
Scaring, or scarring?
Well . . . it’s not like the windmill owners and operators hadn’t heard of tornadoes before, is it?
To put what the video shows into a financial perspective:
“The Breakdown of Initial Wind Turbine Costs
“$2.6 – $4 million per average-sized commercial wind turbine
“— Typical cost is $1.3 million per megawatt (MW) of electricity-producing capacity
“— Most commercial wind turbines have a capacity of 2-3 MW, but offshore turbines can be as large as 16-18 MW
“Cost increases as turbine size increases, though there are benefits to using fewer, larger turbines – complexity and construction of the overall farm site is greatly reduced with fewer and larger turbines.”
source: https://weatherguardwind.com/how-much-does-wind-turbine-cost-worth-it
First “bottom line”: tens of millions $USD of intermittent renewable energy production gone in a matter of seconds.
Second “bottom line”: tornadoes are renewable destructors.
Renewable, certainly, but please add the word reliable….
Renewables get zapped by nature – frequently.
Was it a man made climate change driven twister?
Of course it was. How dare you voice contra-ideology questions!
(/sarc)
If only if they had installed 50 times as many windmills; no climate change & no damage to the windmills.
(or 50 times as much damage & continue wearing the blinders)
A result of the recent Indy 500?
Are windmills going to replace trailer homes as tornado magnets?
They already have.
Illinois State planners have begun the draft process to require windfarm placement within 5 miles of any mobile harm park, so as to protect the residents of the MHP. The wind farms will be paid for in part with a new surcharge on new Manufactured Home placement … reasonable taxation nexus in the eyes of the Dems in charge. 🙂
Tornadoes-1024×748.jpg (1024×748) (vividmaps.com)
Tracks from 1950 to 2017
Beautiful map. The U.S. has far more tornadoes than other countries. Dry air comes down off the east side of the Rocky Mountains and meets moist air flow up from the Gulf of Mexico. The dry air is less dense so it flows under and lifts the moist air. The lifted moisture condenses to form clouds and thunderstorms, which spawn tornadoes.
And, as Willis would point out, that process keeps the central U.S., and planet Earth, cooler than it would otherwise be. Clouds reflect sunlight back to deep space.
. . . and winds increase evaporative cooling, especially at 100–300 mph!
Gee I also though it was the cold air masses from the north meeting the warm most from the gulf. My experience is the winds off the mountains are warm, a Chinooks wind to the temperature where I live in the 1980s from -50 F to 40F in a little over 24 hours. Where I grew up those wind end 200 miles west, the arctic cold fronts are in both places summer and winter.
Two different phenomena! Of course air coming down the mountainside is compressed (heated) by gravity. It is also dryer, having lost rain on the windward side of the mountains, Thomas is describing the dry air (which is, of course, “more” not “less” dense than humid air) “lifting” the moist air to form clouds.
I find it curious that so very many tracks are in NE and ENE directions . . . is this the predominate direction for the movement of cold fronts in the mid-West? Driven by the upper altitude jet stream?
Is driven by the underlying cold/warm front colliding mechanism that creates tornadic supercell Tstorms in the first place. Is a pure function of geography. Lots of scholarly articles on the root causes of the unique to US ‘tornado alley’.
Hmmm . . . then that is a incredibly massive area of similar “geography”.
Cold fronts typically move in a SE direction. The winds on the south side of a cold front in this area move in a more NE direction, while the winds on the north side of the front tend to move in a more SW direction. It is these opposing winds that give the tornado it’s energy.
OK . . . but what gives almost all tornado tracks similar directionality?
As I stated, because all cold fronts come from pretty much the same direction. The northwest.
My education from the 60s (I admit to not updating on this topic) was the coriolis effect due to the rotation of the planet.
It is a beautiful map.
Would love to see an overlay of the “best” sites for onshore wind power.
Similarly, I would love to see an overlay of the areas of greatest insurance claims for windstorm damage.
That is, how does the annual damage (in $ terms) from tornadoes compare to the annual damage from hurricanes?
Grew up in the area, took swimming lessons in Greenfield as a kid. Thankfully family members in the central Iowa were not hurt as the storms went through.
O/T
Sunak or Starmer. – July 4rth
O/T
Sunak v Starmer – July 4rth
O/T
“July 4rth”? News to me.
I couln’t vote for a party led by a man who:-
I am pretty sure Starmer has a plan. I just don’t think he plans to reveal it to the UK public until after the election.
That is what happened in the US last time.
So the choices are:
A/ A party of the extreme left, admirers of the Chinese model of government and wanting absolute control of every aspect of your life, or
B/ The Labour party.
Depressing eh
I just want to say that tornado was exceptionally beautiful. A vortex within vortices within vortices. Magnificent to behold.
I can’t imagine what my wife would say if she caught me posting that.
There are places where wind turbines shouldn’t even be considered. I always thought that T. Boone Pickens’ plan to build enormous wind farms in tornado alley was the height of insanity. But then, I also knew a guy who was running the offshore wind turbine program at Department of Energy, and he swore that they had been able to storm-proof them. I was stuck in Baltimore once, when all aircraft were grounded by a passing hurricane. It didn’t make landfall, but sideswiped the BWI area where I was stuck in a motel. The motel had no restaurant, but was attached to a Denny’s. I fought a short distance through the wind and rain from the motel to the Denny’s, leaning into the wind at a 45 degree angle. When I arrived, I found that the outer door – one of those very heavy aluminum-framed glass jobs – had been ripped completely off of its hinges. By the wind outside the boundary of a hurricane. I somehow doubt that offshore wind would last very long.
Were you able to get a meal?
I’d be curious to know what backup power from a reliable source was needed to cover for this loss.
I mean, power lines going down is one thing but the loss of the power source is quite another.
Proof before our eyes … Wind turbines cause tornadoes and attract naturally formed tornadoes.
It must be from the turbulence that takes down aircraft.
(Do I need a /sarc tag?)
You must be right, it’s been ‘modelled’ a billion times with the same outcome..
A severe weather event, destroying wind farms that are to replace burning hydrocarbons to produce energy, because apparently human emissions of c02 create more severe weather events.
The CAGW luvvies will use this as proof that the world isn’t building renewables fast enough. Look at that twister! – Quick build more wind farms, it’s our only hope.
Well, at least Solar farms will be safe from major storm and tornado damage…. wait a minute.
What’s funny is that that windmills are barely moving right before they are destroyed.
God thumbs his nose at renewables.
Blade Runner
It’s interesting to see the wind turbine blades almost stationary before the tornado.
There’s nothing extraordinary here since this part of the US is particularly tornado-prone at this time of year. One of the country’s worst weather-related disasters was the Tri-States tornado that struck Missouri, Iowa and Illinois in March, 1925 killing around 700 and destroying nearly 10,000 houses and buildings. Somehow this managed to occur long before it was fashionable for climate alarmists (if any existed at the time) to claim such weather extremes were the result of excessive greenhouse gas emissions.
I’m shaking my head, trying not to laugh.
Eastern IA has old windmills all over – used to pump water from wells long ago.
I don’t know about SW IA.
Some areas of IA are tornado territory, SW of Cedar Rapids for example.
Didn’t builders of modern windmills look around, read history, ….?
Greenfield looks like a typical IA town – large brick edifice that is either county courthouse or church.
(And I has BIG churches, the spire in Holy Cross IA can be seen for a long way. (If you are out that way, that church has much fine woodwork inside. It was damaged by a tornado in 2004 – at the eastern edge of IA.))
Agriculture is a primary industry, many modest towns have a local manufacturing industry. Cedar Rapids has a substantial tech industry, notable Collins Radio and successor (now part of RTX).