From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Doug Brodie
As you know, I have been warning about this for years:
In a fit of self-loathing, the European Union has begun to destroy the economic engine that pays its bills. Some of this is well known, but some is not, and it will astonish you.
Only nine of the EU’s 27 member states are net budget contributors, and Germany pays the most – around €25bn (£22bn) in 2021. Without the generosity of the Bundesrepublik, the European Commission would struggle to keep the lights on at the Berlaymont.
In turn, that wealth comes from its manufacturing industry. Specifically, from strong global demand for the German vehicles which account for almost three-fifths of Europe’s car exports. As recently as a decade ago, the streets of Shanghai and Shenzhen teemed with German brand SUVs.
So you would think that the regulators in Brussels would show some care to the delicate vase they’re carrying across the room. But not a bit of it.
French, German and Italian automakers are now caught in a pincer. In order to meet climate targets, vehicles powered by conventionally-refined hydrocarbons will be phased out, while much cheaper battery-powered (BEV) competition from China floods in.
The industry won’t be permitted to sell the product that European customers do want, but can’t compete on price with a product it appears to have enough of. So far, so (depressingly) obvious.
But what is little known is how specific and vindictive the EU has become in its attack on the car.
For this is not actually a war on the combustion engine, so much as a war on personal mobility. The EU has relaxed its dogmatic insistence on alternative hydrocarbons for maritime and aviation – but not for road vehicles.
To understand this, recall that the phrase “fossil fuel” is actually very misleading. Hydrocarbons are not only dug up and refined – they can also be made from scratch, using biology or chemistry.
The most “organic” method is to use algae. But you need a lot of it, and attempts to engineer them to produce higher yields have failed to scale.
Then there’s chemistry. The Fischer-Tropsch process converts carbon monoxide and hydrogen into a complex hydrocarbon – an e-fuel that can replace petrol.
You do need energy both to unlock the hydrogen, and then to create sufficient temperatures for the process itself to work. However, if these inputs are “zero carbon” then so is the e-fuel that emerges.
In December, I reported how Porsche is using wind power in Patagonia to produce petrol and diesel. Or, if we had lots of nuclear capacity, we’d use the off-peak electricity. By day the plants would keep us warm and at night they could create the petrol, diesel and oil we need.
In fact, Japan’s HTTR reactor design even produces the required hydrogen as a by-product.
In short, in fields where hydrocarbons are superior or simply irreplaceable, we can swap the ones we dig up with ones we make and still hit climate targets. And the infrastructure of pipelines and filling stations is already in place, which cannot be said for hydrogen or electric charging.
Industry is responding. Infinium, which is backed by both Amazon and Bill Gates, recently broke ground on a new plant that uses both carbon capture and renewables to create hydrogen. There are many more. But the EU is stubbornly refusing to allow cars and trucks to use them.
It’s baffling, because the Eurocrats at ‘DG-MOVE’ (the Directorate-General for Mobility and Transport) have already conceded that synthetic hydrocarbons are green.
In July, the EU permitted the maritime sector to use “renewable fuels of non biological origin (RFNBO)”, as it calls e-fuels. In October, it allowed the aviation sector to use them too.
Perhaps it’s ignorance, or simply dogma. However opposition to the car has become one of the sustaining grievances of modern policy making.
Just look at how vehemently our councils, our planners and our architects detest four wheel freedom, too. A low-intensity civil war is breaking out over low traffic neighbourhoods, or zoning schemes as in Oxford.
Nicholas Boyes Smith, the design czar for whom the “Office of Place” was created, issues a stream of anti-car Tweets.
Fifteen minute cities are “a timeless Scrutonian ideal” he argues. There is no garden city or new town movement today. In the 1960s, bureaucrats bulldozed neighbourhoods to ensure that cars were convenient. Now they destroy neighbourhoods by inhibiting their use – or stop them being built at all.
“Planning is now about the rationing of materials and resources and space, rather than their deployment. It’s subtractive, not additive,” says architect critic Tim Abrahams.
“Constraint is the watchword, not opportunity.”
The Malthusians want fewer of us, and ideally we’d be going nowhere, except by bike or on foot. Car companies are facing prejudices from all corners, but it’s the EU’s ban on green fuel that is the most urgent.
No wonder Renault chief executive Luca de Meo, in an open letter to the EU published last month, bemoaned the lack of joined up thinking or strategy.
In contrast to the US and China, the Commission passes rule after rule, an incoherent mess. EU rules alone have made passenger cars 60pc heavier on average, he wrote.
Switzerland, which is in the European Economic Area but not the EU, has blessed e-fuels.
Like the Swiss, we also have an outstanding chemicals industry. The lunacy of aligning ourselves with Brussels, now we have left, has never been more apparent.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/22/eu-war-on-cars-destroying-economic-foundations
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I’m afraid it will take gun powder to end this insanity.
You’re way to optimistic.
Mao did say change must come from the barrel of a gun.
Cars and dictators always loved each other.
Which explains why so many leftists of the 60’s drove Volkswagens.
Another really funny comment. I drove dodge chargers and Volkswagens in the 1960’s… loved them both for different reasons. Unfortunately neither loved my back very well. LOL
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As evidenced by the COP attendees.
So, what is your source?
The voices in his head.
Very funny snide comment only because my car loves me to.
Who need dictators when we have a constitution and the rule of law to protect our liberty. It seems with lefties basic liberty and rule of law is all about dictators.
You want to subvert liberty and rule of law, fallaciously turn everything on it’s head. It’s what lefties are trained to do without a ounce of intellectual honesty. Who wants to be the dictator now?
You never said who was going to pay for your Utopia City.
Maybe that’s why there are no lead mines or lead processing facilities left in the USA?
An invisible hydrogen-oxygen explosion will probably end the hydrogen craze.
Cars destroy infrastructure, neighbourhoods and lives. It’s about time we we put a tight rein on them.
Wear and tear is a fact of life. Of course, you can hasten that with over heavy EVs that pay nothing towards the damage they do.
If only the green minded could join up two dots.
I’m not arguing for EVs here.
what are you arguing for?
Dingdong username doesn’t “argue” or vie for anything in the positive. It’s more like a 80’s wrestling heel. Basically a clown.
What an excellent analogy! As kids in the 60’s, we followed the local ‘wrestling’ scene on pre-cable tv. I forget his name, but the local heel sported a very fake German accent. I imagine today it would be a fake Russian accent.
Your servitude to his political fantasies.
No, you are arguing for a global Venezia.
You know, bicycles can kill; they should be regulated, preferably banned in cities….
“A cyclist who hit a pedestrian as she walked on a pavement, causing her death, has been jailed for 12 months.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-62153644
““We need the cycling equivalent of death by dangerous driving to close a gap in the law and impress on cyclists the real harm they can cause when speed is combined with lack of care,”
https://road.cc/content/news/causing-death-dangerous-cycling-law-coming-soon-295011
Ask any cyclist and they’ll exclaim: Traffic light? Wot’s that, then?
Oh come on, are you really trying to argue bikes have the same danger potential as oversized SUVs?
In the wrong hands they do and court cases kind of confirm it
For the record, I drive a hatchback
If we save only 1 life…
So you also argue against a car centric society?
Perhaps more, you can hear an SUV coming, and SUVs aren’t normally driven where pedestrians are walking.
So SUVs are only driven on special car racing grounds and highways? Or aren’t pedestrians allowed on roads anymore?
https://usa.streetsblog.org/2022/07/07/study-suvs-are-indeed-death-machines-for-children-blacks
Are you really as stupid as your posts make you sound?
BTW, why is every site you cite, nothing more than pure propaganda for the nonsense you preach?
Bikes are even worse, particularly EV bikes.
This guy is stupid enough that he actually wants all cars banned.
Id say it’s more likely it wants people gone, but is unwilling to lead by example. Coward.
Malthusians and Eugenics are strange people as they never ever consider themselves as part of the problem.
I presume you can’t afford one and therefore in your ego-centric universe, nobody else should be allowed to either.
Or are you one of the climate elites who have earned the self-righteous privilege of a car to use in pursuit of saving your Earth Mother from us ruinous plebs.
I have a car, drive it when I feel like the need. I don’t believe there is a climate crisis, and don’t believe reducing car ownership and use is justified by climate considerations.
But the number of 1.35 million deaths globally and 50 million plus serious injuries does make me think there is something very wrong. And I deliberately have chosen to live in a traffic free environment, because living on a busy road is a health hazard as well as being very unpleasant.
Its not as simple as you would like to think it is.
The 1.35 million figure comes from the World Health Organisation. How reliable do we regard the statistics of the WHO?
In the United States, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) projects there were an estimated 42,915 traffic fatalities in 2021.
So where were the other 900,000 deaths caused by cars?
If there were “only” 43,000 deaths in the USA, which must have one of the highest levels of car ownership per head of population in the world, it might appear doubtful that there are 900,000 in the rest of the world.
However, 43,000 deaths is a lot of deaths.
I wonder if there are figures for the number of deaths caused by incidents involving buses and lorries.
If we want to reduce deaths caused by vehicles we might need to take buses and lorries off the roads. And then where would we be?
OK so 1.35 – .045 = 1.1 +, not .9 million.
A search shows in general the most lawless countries have the most vehicle deaths. I wonder if some of those deaths are like covid related gunshot or motorcycle accident deaths in the US, lol.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/road-deaths-by-country
Thailand and Vietnam have very high “deaths per 100K population” numbers, and whenever I see video of those countries, they have a huge number of scooters on the road, correlation or causation?
Venezuela also very high. I wonder how many political opponents of Maduro massacred in their cars are counted as traffic fatalities?
Africa as a whole is really high. Again the benefit of the West’s continued obstruction of economical dispatchable electrical power. No way for there to be street lights or traffic signals without power. Heck, no way to have a refrigerator or electric lights to read by even.
Of course the “best” scoring countries, other than Canada (I have driven in Canada and the OPEN highways have ridiculously LOW speed limits.) and Aus, none of them have any distance between towns OR the number of illegal alien drivers killing people (driving drunk and/or hit and runs), comparable to the US, so not a real comparison to be made.
No mention if the “road” deaths include pedestrians but I must think, to get the high number, they are included.
“OK so 1.35 – .045 = 1.1 +, not .9 million.”
1.35 – 0.045 = 1.305, not 1.1 million
Yes, I think the numbers do include pedestrians. They also include large numbers of children and the young.
Your point about how many are occurring in China, India etc? Lots, but never mind that.
The question you have to answer, and its really a yes/no question, is whether you think 43,000 deaths a year is a price worth paying for the role of the car in US society. Or wherever you live.
Do you think 43,000 deaths a year in the US are worth the benefits of widespread car ownership and use?
And the serious injuries, too, which are a multiple of the number of deaths?
I don’t understand how anyone can consider this an acceptable situation, or how people can react with such hostility to even mentioning the numbers and raising the question.
If you want to know where the other deaths were, look up the WHO reports. I don’t think their numbers have ever been seriously questioned.
The highest number of deaths due to falls in the United States was 46,653 in 2022. It seems safer to drive than walk. Moreover, by your logic, we should all just stay in bed.
Driving and walking are not alternatives, its a silly comparison. Your own logic would force you to compare train travel and car travel, and the argument would go against you.
No, my logic would not require us all to stay in bed.
But it would call for us to confront the huge death and injury rates which use of cars on the present scale and manner causes, and, if we decide that it is wrong, to take effective action to limit or eliminate it.
If we were prepared to make serious reductions to car use in pursuit of lowering death and accident rates, the alternative to our present systems of transport probably would mean a great deal of train and trolley type of regional and local transport, more protected cycleways and walkways, and reduced car use with through traffic channeled out of residential or shopping areas.
Its perfectly possible to have a free and civilized society managing its transport in this way. Holland and the Scandinavian countries have gone a long way in that direction.
This is about managing the transport system, and treating the present death rate from cars as a manageable public health problem.
Have you ever ridden a bicycle in a large group?
Most definitely.
Do you honestly believe that if there was 100 million bicycles on the road every day, there wouldn’t be an equal if not greater number of deaths and injuries?
Imagining the deaths from millions of people bicycling 100km to and from work each day.
What a horrendous thought !
The few that do it in cities for a few km are bad enough !!
“Road-menace”, doesn’t even begin to describe them.
Have you ever visited Holland?
Yes, and in the space of a couple of hours in Amsterdam was twice nearly run down by cyclists.
I don’t know why you think reducing car deaths would require 100 million cyclists on the road every day. Of course it would not.
Wow, are you delusional.
In your fantasy world, just how do you expect the people who currently drive to work, to get to work?
How do you expect the people who drive to get groceries, to get groceries?
How do you expect people who drive to do all of their errands, to do their errands?
“Do you think 43,000 deaths a year in the US are worth the benefits of widespread car ownership and use?”
Yes. Everybody will eventually die anyway. What matters is the quality of life.
One needs to look at these numbers in dynamics. Is it getting better or worse, particularly per car and per capita?
Are the alternatives any safer?
Moreover, the number of deaths can be decreased by
better road infrastructure
better car maintenance
driver education
If everyone was riding bicycles, the total number of bicycle related deaths would exceed the total number of car related deaths.
Any evidence for that? Draw on the Dutch experience, for instance?
Mr. michel: You need to read more carefully before your reflexive hatred of cars blurs your vision. You ask Mr. W for “evidence” of his truism? If everyone rode bikes, nobody drives a car, how can you have car-related deaths? Bicyclists running into parked cars??!!
You let this idea that so many people die in car accidents cloud your view quite badly. BTW, the answer to your question is “yes” for all Americans who drove today, we answered “yes”. It’s manifestly true. You really need to think harder before you type.
I don’t have a ‘reflexive hatred of cars’ at all. I have one and drive regularly locally. I take the train for any distance, finding it both safer and less tiring. I would not live on a heavily trafficked street. Like most people, I find the noise and fumes disagreeable.
And its not ‘an idea’ that so many people die in car accidents. Its a fact.
Mr. michel: You mean you can’t see it. You say that 43,000 deaths a year is not acceptable, but your only notion to reduce that number is to get rid of cars. BTW, your approach begs the question- if we reduce to 42,000, is that good enough for you? 41,000?
I have seen your comments over time, you are no fool, you can think. You don’t see how your argument is a non-starter because the idea of fewer deaths has an appeal that blinds you on this subject.
Selfishness is the leading cause of traffic deaths. Not paying attention while driving is selfish. Excessive speed is selfish. Not keeping your vehicle properly maintained is selfish. Driving too fast for conditions is selfish. Not turning your headlights on in low visibility conditions is selfish…
No, its systemic. Its the inevitable result of the system. We have done our best to make cars and roads safer over the years, and have had great success by some standards. But you are not going to make a dent in the present numbers by making people less selfish.
Human beings operating cars for the purposes we currently use them for, even on the very regulated and optimized roads we currently use them on, are not very safe. Our current death and injury rates are occurring even with best efforts. In the UK, for example, annual compulsory Ministry of Transport checks on older cars. Driver licensing. Drink/Drive regulation. License penalties for speeding and misconduct. Traffic lights, road marking etc.
I would like people to be honest about this. If you want to reduce car ownership and use, say so, and say why. Don’t hide behind climate and a move to EVs. And propose all the collateral changes that reducing car use will require.
If you think the current toll is a fair price to pay, say so. I think that’s a monstrous judgment, but at least have the decency to say so, if that is what you think.
Mr. michel: The toll is the price we pay, whether you think it fair or not. Monstrous? Take a pill.
If driving a vehicle is so dangerous to life, how come on over 45 years of driving, (at one point for a living), did I never hit another car or be injured by a vehicle in any way.? I think of all the tens of thousands (or more) trips I have undertaken in my life… many, many times, I drove well over the speed limit..all without mishap. ( but not without speeding tickets..LOL)
I have hurt myself though by various means…playing sport, walking/ running, riding my pushbike, making a living and sometimes just plain carelessness.
Only other vehicle accident I ever had was when I was riding a pushbike and got “pushed” by a car, landing on the grass verge.
Did hit a sheep at 100kph on a motor bike once…
… that was not pleasant for the bike, me or the sheep.
If I’d been in a car, I would have come off unscathed.
The few times I’ve been a pedestrian around Sydney I noticed that those darn bicycle riders are a danger to everyone.
Car drivers care about pedestrians, and don’t want to damage anyone…
.. the few bicycle riders, on the other hand, are arrogant prats that couldn’t give a damn !
People just like Luser.
The statistics are what they are. The WHO compiles them, and I have never seen them seriously disputed. Your own experience (which is mine too, except that I do not speed) is perfectly consistent with that.
If you ever had colleagues, friends or family who have been involved in a serious accident with deaths and life changing injuries, you might take a different view.
Others have already pointed to a few of the problems with the WHO “statistics”. That you choose to ignore the criticisms says a lot about you and your motivations.
Cars provide the freedom for humans to travel when they want where they want.
Time to get rid of the tyrants wanting to imprison everybody.
Yes, but at what cost?
At the cost of self righteous jerks trying to impose their rules on the majority that don’t apply to themselves
No cost too high to rid ourselves of tyrants.
Funny how isolation and seperation cars cause helps tyrants. It destroys the revolutionary potential of cities and replaces it with a modern peasantry who never move much outside their social circle and have only vague ideas what happens outside their picket fences.
Not even remotely true, but you already knew that.
Cities were always the centers for social change and progression. Authoritarians fear them the same way they fear education.
Oh, that’s a hoot! It’s the authoritarians who keep children in bad schools. It’s the authoritarians who dumbed down educational standards. It’s the authoritarians who broke our schools because they don’t know how to create, only destroy.
That must be why authoritarians like you want to force everyone into the cities.
“Authoritarians fear them the same way they fear education..”
Ahh ! so that is why you don’t have any. !
I doubt he knows it, knowing stuff requires the kind of intelligence that LoserName lacks.
He just doesn’t care. Any argument that sounds good is what he is after.
When you decide to make shit up, you go whole hog.
WTF is this? Are you a Maoist?
I presume you are asking about the cost of keeping cars.
If you think there is no cost to forcing everyone to use bicycles is zero, you are willfully blind.
I don’t think that, and I don’t advocate forcing everyone to use bikes. I am just asking whether 42,000 deaths a year in the US is a reasonable price to pay for the advantages of cars.
Life is risky
Mr. michel: Everybody who drove today said “yes” to your question. Your concern is noted.
Of course it is. When you look at other activities cars are safe by comparison.
You don’t advocate forcing people to use bikes, you just advocate getting rid of cars.
Is the price worth it. Yes.
I just love the way you assume that if we got rid of cars, transportation deaths will go to zero.
100 million bikes on the road each day will easily result in at least as many deaths and injuries.
At the speeds your average bicyclist travels, an accident can easily be fatal. Bikes have no protection for their riders.
Given the billions of miles driven every year, 43,000 deaths is an incredibly small number.
Sorry, I do not advocate either forcing people to use bikes or getting rid of cars.
I do advocate taking the death and accident rate seriously as a public health problem, and I do think that doing something meaningful about it would mean very different transport systems from the car-centric one we have today and much lower car ownership and use.
Would this include more safe bike ways? Probably, at least in temperate climates. I cannot see people cycling to work year-round in Chicago or Minneapolis. It would also include more train and bus and trolley use, more safe walkways and traffic free zones in cities.
The issue to me is not personal freedom to travel by one particular mode of transport anywhere you want whenever you want.
Its freedom to travel anywhere you want whenever you want. But not necessarily by car.
The issue in managing this is a public health question. Its about lowering the death and injury rate, which I judge to be unacceptable, both morally and as a cost to society.
This will be my last comment in this thread.
“This will be my last comment in this thread.”
That’s improved the day !!
You’re so delusional, that you actually believe that you are the only person who knows that people die in automobile accidents. You whine and whine, over and over again declaring that nobody but you acknowledge this cost.
Unfortunately, like most self anointed saviors of humanity, you have absolutely know respect for the knowledge and opinions of the people you are trying to save.
You constantly bring up the number of people killed by cars, but completely ignore the much larger number of people who will die if all those vehicle trips are replaced by bicycle trips.
You have no respect for people who have, on their own, made the decision that driving is a better alternative for them, than riding or walking.
Yes… very reasonable especially when you consider the amount of vehicular movements every minute of every day. it’s likely a very, very low negligible cost.
“rid of the tyrants” ?
Benefits ÷ Costs = ~< ∞
Compared to the size of the benefit, a very small cost.
1) Please provide a list of precisely who is, and is not, included in your mental vision of the word “we” there.
2) In the case where “we” come up with a range of just how “tight” the reins “need to be” pulled, who gets to be the (singular) final arbiter ?
You need to stop taking those drugs. Your mind is gone.
That was gone long before 😛
It shows.
We noticed.
Born without !
He can’t lose what he never had.
Do you have one? In some nations it’s easier to not have one- but not in North America. Besides, people LIKE their cars.
It doesn’t matter what people like or want.
Authoritarians like LoserName know what is good for you and you will not be permitted to disagree.
From perplexity.ai
So the question for your critics is: do you think the benefits of the car are worth the cost in lives and money?
But the question for you is: do you just want to replace ICE cars with EVs? Or do you want to reduce the number of cars, and if so by how much?
Take the US and UK for instance. US 305 million ICE vehicles. UK 41 million. What would you like to see these numbers be?
Absolutely… after all aren’t there already far too many people in the world? Wouldn’t there be a net benefit to eliminating even more…say around 90%???
Reduction in car traffic and replacement of the rest with EVs. See the current trend of many european cities to shift their modal split away from cars. But it’s not an as easy as to just remove cars, there’s a lot of urban planning in the coming decades that needs to shift in the right direction of making coming and existing infrastructure less car dependend and work against urban sprawl.
Socialists know what is best for you, so just sit back and take it.
City planning happens wether you like it or not. But I guess giving up qualitiy of life for car industry profits is a good deal?
Car industry profits are secondary to transportation freedom and the ability to move about. Auto ownership actually improves quality of life. City planning can be a hindrance and detriment in some cases, like Paradise CA where city planning eliminated 2of 4 traffic lanes downtown in favor of parking and pedestrian access only to create a choke hold on emergency evacuation traffic
In anything other than an inner-city ghetto..
It is a car that helps give a person “quality of life”.
So you comment is totally meaningless and disingenuous and gormless… as always.
So the existence of socialism means that socialism is justified and more socialism must be better.
Bad planning happens every day…spurred on by idealistic fools.
Who is no longer worthy of a car and who makes that decision?
Another fool who actually believes there is no cost to forcing people to abandon cars.
How many people are going to die every year from accidents involving bicycles, once cars are eliminated.
Cars at least provide protection during an accident, bicycles provide none. And many people ride their bikes at speeds more than sufficient to kill, in an accident.
Beyond that, why do you ignore the many benefits provided by cars?
I don’t believe that.
I don’t. I just ask whether these benefits outweigh the costs in human life and suffering caused by accidents.
Its a reasonable question, to be answered by a rational examination of costs and benefits. I do not understand why its greeted with so much hostility.
My own personal answer is simple: live in a very low traffic area. Because I don’t like living on or near busy roads. I don’t think anyone does, actually. But most people cannot either afford to do what I do, or are even able to do it at all.
My own personal answer
…is your own personal answer, not anything imposed on you. Others are free to make different choices. As for living choices, I can’t speak to your experience but I have rarely seen cheap housing “on or near busy roads” to such a degree that they would be life endangering.
In Raleigh, most the houses “on or near busy roads” are not even vaguely inexpensive.
If you don’t believe it, why do you always cite the number of deaths related to automobiles without also mentioning the fact that deaths from bicycles will increase if lots of people start using them instead?
Examining only the data that benefits you argument is never reasonable, no matter how noble you believe your cause is.
and of course, Michel offers no alternate means to provide for moving goods, chattels throughout society, generally doing everyday commerce, getting your kids safely to schools and extra curricular events on time as required etc etc etc.
Nor does he consider what the alternate death rates might be or the inability to even operate successfully without vehicles…..No… he is just hear to pose the question. He doesn’t advocate anything…how convenient.
Replace ICE with EVs will cause the death rate to go up substantially.
Weight is a major consideration.
Also, EVs are harder to hear.
Force= mass X acceleration. Been known for a long time. Too bad you have to restate the obvious to these geniuses.
Mr. michel: Your socialism streak is showing. 305 million vehicles = 305 million customers who chose to buy and drive the vehicle. The real question you are asking is, “to whom are you going to deny the right to buy that item?” When you get that, you’re gonna have a lot of re-evaluating.
Cars are sure better than riding horses.
Your arguments/questions are moronic. look at your provided stats… 1.35 mill dead GLOBALLY and 20-50 mill injuries per year… yet there are 346 million ICE cars in the two countries you quoted ( you didn’t mention trucks, buses etc) and they are used on hundreds to thousands of trips per vehicle each year. Do the maths.
Well we cannot certainly cannot have the proles going wherever they bloody want, whenever they bloody want! Next thing you know they’ll want the bloody lights to come on every time they flip the switch.
Keep ’em poor and penned up, that’s the ticket.
You know how much a car centric societies costs? Especially for poor people, who have to invest a significant part of their earnings into their cars, and have almost no job prospects without one.
How much more does it cost, when those poor people can no longer get to their jobs because it takes too long on a bicycle?
How much more does it cost when nobody can get to their jobs because it’s cold and icy out?
How many trips to the grocery store do you have to take because your bicycle can only carry a couple of bags at a time?
All consequences of cars destroying infrastructure and making people dependent on them. Thanks for proving my point.
You truly are a moronic little prat, aren’t you.
Car do NOT destroy infrastructure.. they ENABLE it.
With cars, people are basically trapped in a tiny little ghetto, which is probably all your puny little mind could cope with.
You are mummy’s little basement child.
What a pathetic little life you must lead.. Trapped, and desolate.
typo 3rd line
“Without cars, people are basically trapped in a tiny little ghetto,”
I did nothing of the sort. All I did was point out the impossibility of this mythical world you are so eager to force others into.
Your walkable cities, require that everyone be able to find work within a few minutes of where they live, which is a physical impossibility.
People voluntarily abandoned the cities and public transport when cars became available, not because cars forced them to, but because they decided for themselves, that cars and the suburbs were better for them and their families.
Like most socialists, you can’t tolerate it that people make choices that you disagree with, so you are eager to use the deadly power of government to force everyone to live the way you want them to.
Your point wasn’t proved…..well perhaps in your head only.
Especially for poor people, who have to invest a significant part of their earnings into their cars
Not necessarily true, speaking as someone who lived in SoCal in the 90’s on $700/month and had a car.
Do you know how POOR and DEPRIVED car-less societies are.
You would never live in one, you are too arrogant to go without..
What poor people? America is wealthy and everyone can be successful if they want to.
Oh, you must be talking about stupid or lazy people who don’t get that.
What you want to believe and what is true rarely, if ever, coincide.
Socialism destroys infrastructure, neighborhoods and lives.
China is doing quite well with Socialism, maybe the best ever.
China is only doing well to the extent that it had abandoned socialism.
The only parts of China that have prospered, are those parts that adopted capitalism.
Socialism always destroys, it never creates.
So when are you emigrating?
I work 45 miles from home.
I am, for reasons I cannot disclose, not permitted to telework.
I should then quit my job and go on the government dole?
How long could we go on if everyone did?
Let’s talk about destroying lives.
What is your source?
Yes, its idiotic to propose simply abolishing cars without doing the rest that is required to make it possible to get to shops, work, school.
Almost as silly as proposing to turn off gas and coal generation and move to wind without providing enough storage to deal with intermittency.
The answer is that your ability to live 45 miles from work and get there by car has happened because of the widespread ownership and use of cars. But that, however beneficial it may be in your case, does come with costs for society, ie other people.
The question is whether for the whole system benefits exceed costs.
43,000 a year is a lot of deaths to buy that convenience (that’s in the US – the global total is over a million).
Any cost-benefit analysis would show the net benefit of cars exceeds their cost. Life is not risk-free under any circumstances.
In addition to getting rid of cars, we have to also force everyone to move to high density cities, just because that is the kind of life that you like.
BTW, imagine a US with 300 million bicycles, crashing into each other and various fixed objects. Combine that with lack of protection bicycles provide for their riders. Your belief that we will save 43,000 people per year by banning cars is simply nonsensical.
Imagine riding your bike to work and back in the middle of winter in the ice and snow…… or home during a summer thunderstorm with hail the size of golf balls. sometimes cricket balls… they are killers. What about night time travel?… What about the groceries??
What about night time travel?
What about security guards (who are generally part of the “poor”) on construction sites with no shelter on a winter night?
I have never caused an accident. I have been hit, including totaling of 2 vehicles, 4 times and avoided over 2 dozen collisions all of which were due to the other drivers being selfish.
The benefits of the whole system exceed costs, including the 43K per year.
There are a lot more people killed unrelated to vehicles than in traffic accidents.
Maybe the first step is to address that?
I remember one anti-car nut I debated many years back. This guy declared that he had no interest in being “relatively safe”, he wanted to be safe.
CarsFree people destroy infrastructure, neighbourhoods and lives. It’s about time we we put a tight rein on them.I think that’s closer to what you actually wanted to say.
CarsFree peopledestroycreate infrastructure, neighbourhoods and lives. It’s about time we we put a tight rein on them.I think that is closer to his truth.
I think “his” truth is a deranged fantasy, stevo. But your restatement is absolutely closer to THE truth!
I prefer a large 4 door pickup truck. Lots of room, good cargo capacity, great for towing a load.
Cars are good for one person trips with no cargo, such as going to work or the grocery.
Bicycles are not good for poor weather, but they’re fun on trails. Public transit is infested with homeless and druggies, and takes far too much time to get anywhere.
I once had a job 30 miles from home.
I drove to other subway. Took it with multiple train changes. Then took a bus to get to the office.
3-5 hours per day for 250 days. Those hours were essential non-productive and essentially my day was work and commute with no time for anything else.
I teamed up with a coworker and we shifted our hours to avoid the worst of the traffic. 30 minutes each way.
Tell me the fairy tail again, please?
Most neighborhoods wouldn’t exist without cars, and cities would be overcrowded cesspits. You need to get out of your mother’s basement and see reality.
My local grocery store is 1.5 miles from my house. I have walked it several times, but only when I needed a limited volume of groceries. The walk was dangerous. I had to walk along a highway with no sidewalk and the berm was not much protection.
After more than one near misses, I listen for the cars (EVs are hard to hear), I gave up that exercise.
Case in point. Metro was built in D.C. to reduce traffic, it was hip for a decade or two, now only unskilled immigrants ride it on many of the routes and D.C. is awash in massive roads and cars. Why, because that is the way the people who lived there wanted it. The built bike paths and all sorts of great stuff and then is it was overwhelmed.
Much about what I loved about the D.C area of the 1960-1980 is in fact gone because they people who lived there did what they thought was best. let’s not misplace our self righteous idealism on masses of people based on our little desires and think we some how know better…..even if we had a better idea. This is life.
We can say all day long that public transportation system is great an bike paths are great but if we are voted down….. then cope with it or move. I moved out of the D.C. morass before it became utterly ridiculous that is what people do.
I prefer liberty and the rule of law than idealistic dictates coming down from on high from people no one voted for telling me it’s now gonna cost me 5 times more to drive my car.
Why not go after the OUD epidemic or internet addiction public health crisis….
Where matters climate are concerned, Brexit never really happened. All we did was remove (to some extent) the middle man, the EU. The result was to drive a stiff virtue-signalling competition between the EU/UK elites; who can get to rock bottom first.
To my mind, lock down was always about far more than just a virus. It was a test. How much could they get away with, and it turned out to be fat too much and ruinous; see Sweden. We’ll be clearing up the mess for decades.
“Neil Ferguson has given an extraordinary interview to Tom Whipple at The Times, in which he confirms the degree to which he believes that imitating China’s lockdown policies at the start of 2020 changed the parameters of what Western societies consider acceptable.
It’s a communist one party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realised we could.
– Professor Neil Ferguson, The Times”
https://unherd.com/newsroom/neil-ferguson-interview-china-changed-what-was-possible/
Under the cover of lock down we got LTNs, the mad cap floating bus stops, and mad cycle lanes that prevent emergency vehicles being able to get through the traffic. All you blue light cases will just have to hang in there…
But in London gaslighting is the order of the day. We’ve know since ULEZ expansion that the cameras would eventually be used for pay per mile charging. It’s documented in city hall. And yet…
“Despite his claims, Sadiq Khan’s transport strategy appears to commit the Mayor to a review around road user charging schemes. This could involve the introduction of an integrated ‘per mile’ system charging motorists for every journey. The strategy report, Published in 2018 and revised in 2022, reads: “These could replace schemes such as the Congestion Charge, Low Emission Zone and Ultra Low Emission Zone.”
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1889318/car-tax-pay-per-mile-scheme-london-susan-hall-sadiq-khan
Khan, needless to say, is a master of taqiyya.
“Sadiq Khan has again denied he is planning to introduce a “pay-per-mile” system for London drivers, saying that will not happen as long as he is mayor.”
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/sadiq-khan-london-pay-per-mile-road-user-charging-ulez-emma-best-tfl-b1107072.html
When I passed my driving test driving was fun and enjoyable. Now, it’s way more effort than its worth, a real chore.
“London is world’s slowest city for drivers, study finds”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67916773
That is the result of Khan’s war on personal mobility.
EU is active proof that “elections have consequences”.
Nobody elects the Commission, Ron. And only the Commission has the right of initiative:
To enable it to play its role as guardian of the EU treaties and representative of the general interest, the European Commission has been given a right of initiative to propose new laws on the matters contained in the treaties, either because the treaties explicitly provide for it or because the Commission considers it necessary.
The Council and the European Parliament may also ask the Commission to put forward a proposal if they consider it necessary.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/glossary/right-of-initiative.html
The vote to join the EU was the tipping point. Everything else follows. BREXIT, anyone?
One man, one vote, one time.
The socialist way.
Story tip: The Climate–Migration–Health Nexus
“Climate change and health: displaced and migrant populations must be included
In November, 2023, the first Health Day was held at the 28th Conference of the Parties (COP28) in recognition of the connection between health and climate change.
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The scale of migration and displacement due to climate change is vast
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Creating new, safe, and legal migration options for climate-vulnerable communities is, consequently, a crucial adaptation strategy. Governments must begin to cooperate and reach agreements, especially across borders, to protect the rights of people on the move, including their right to health.
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to mobilise support for communities already using migration as an adaptation strategy”
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)00243-5/fulltext?dgcid=raven_jbs_etoc_email
“At Least Five Drown in English Channel Within Hours of Stop-The-Boats Rwanda Policy Passing”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/04/23/callous-people-smugglers-kill-again-at-least-five-drown-in-english-channel-within-hours-of-stop-the-boats-rwanda-policy-passing/
France must be a real hell hole.
“The scale of migration and displacement due to climate change is vast”
I’ll bet they can’t name one migration or displacement that is actually due to CC.
I posted this before but it has vanished. These are WHO statistics.
In summary, while the global death and injury rate from cars has declined in recent years, it remains a major public health issue worldwide, with an estimated 1.19 million deaths and 20-50 million non-fatal injuries per year.123
I said in the vanished post that the question for the critics of MyUserName is whether they think these death and injury and financial costs are worth the benefits they think cars bring.
The question for MyUserName is whether he simply wants to swap out ICE for EVs. Which would make no impact on the death and injury rate, even were it possible. Or whether he wants to reduce cars, and if so to what levels. I suggested as an example that the UK has about 41 million and the US about 300 million. How many cars would he like to see in those sample locations? How many in China?
Get real numbers around the proposal, and we can see what is involved.
If you talk about world population, you are going to get big numbers. the world population is about eight billion. According to UN figures an estimated 67.1 million people died in 2022 so 1.19 million deaths is about one in fifty-six, which seems rather a lot, what about malnutrition, disease, cancer, war etc? Bear in mind these figures are estimates by different UN agencies, each with their own agenda. For comparison, actual collected statistics for the UK for 2022: road accident fatalities: 1711, total registered deaths: 577160 or about one in 337, stilll quite a lot, but in a country still with an extensive health care system (despite heading in the wrong direction) where few die of malaria etc.
And I forgot to add, what about the mortality rate from not having motor vehicles? Almost impossible to guess, I would suggest.
Well according to Michel’s earlier post, over 1/2 of the “road” deaths are from bicycles, motorcycles (scooters) and pedestrians. Most of whom would not have died if they were in a CAR when hit by a car, bus or truck.
I guess SOME of those deaths were single vehicle accidents so those generally “Darwin” deaths would have happened anyway eventually.
Remember too that many, perhaps the majority, of those road traffic deaths may not actually involve cars – in large parts of Asia for example scooters and motor bikes are far more common and obviously not as safe.
His only solution would be to limit population to no more than 1,000,000 like minded Borg Drones per country. EE must be eliminated and no room for individuality. Be assimilated or terminated!
We would also have to eliminate electricity. How many people die from shock. Fires, workplace injuries, etc.,, add to the toll.
Post says:”Motor vehicle injuries are the leading cause of preventable death globally,…”
You say 1.3 million deaths my bet there are more preventable abortions than this.
Touchy topic, but I agree.
And there’s also how many lives do motor vehicles save?
How many deaths are prevented by first responders?
Or just putting someone in a car and getting them to a hospital?
Doctors and nurses getting to a hospital?
Emergency supplies driven to a disaster area?
A fetus at any stage is not self conscious. Its death also does not bring the same emotional and economic consequences to its immediate relatives, friends and to society as a whole as loss of a child or an adult.
Religions considerations aside, death of a fetus is not a problem, it is a medical procedure.
Because “a fetus” is a human being, it is murder. And we prosecute murderers, regardless of whether the victim has ANYone emotionally affected by her or his (yes, that tiny life already has a sex and in its cells is everything it needs to grow and live a full life) death.
Because murder is simply: wrong.
“a fetus” is a human being
This is a strictly religious point of view. You are entitled to it, but you also should accept it as your point of view, not the absolute truth.
To me a zygote, an embryo or a fetus do not have rights of a born human.
I am not advocating abortions. I am a simply saying that a planned abortion does not have the same consequences to society as death of an adult.
It does not require ANY religion — at all. It is a PHILOSOPHICAL view. All that is needed for that creature to become a fully viable adult is to be allowed to LIVE.
It is, by what is encoded in its DNA, a human being.
To kill it is to murder a human being.
You simply think that that’s okay.
Further, (to get back to your original point) the murder of ANY human being is actionable homicide regardless of whether anyone is affected by that person’s death or not.
Your point was that the death of a “child” or adult had “emotional and economic consequences” and, therefore, was meaningful.
The law (in the U.S, at least) says otherwise. Even if that child or adult had NO one to care whether he or she lived or died and whose absence has essentially NO impact on society (for instance, a mentally ill street person with no job, family, or friends), her or his murder is actionable.
Because human life is precious.
YOU are very precious, Someone.
Finally, to put religion into it 🙂 : You are loved. God loves you. God loved you so much that He-She sent His-Her Son to die for you.
@ur momisugly all those “worthless in the eyes of humanity” people out there, YOU MATTER. No matter what you have done or how damaged you are or how “of no consequence to society” you are, you are of infinite worth to God.
“Jesus’ blood says you’re loved.” (from “But the Cross” by Ben Fuller)
Say that to someone who has suffered a miscarriage.
Say exactly what? That fetuses do not have legal rights of born humans?
I would sympathize and certainly would not get into any arguments.
In any case, a miscarriage is an unfortunate event, a bodily misfunction that can be likened to a decease. It is not the same as an abortion, a voluntary planned medical procedure.
Say exactly what? That fetuses do not have legal rights of born humans?
No
“death of a fetus is not a problem”
Also:
“A fetus at any stage is not self conscious”
So are you claiming that it is not self conscious until it is born?
It is not self-conscious even long after it is born, for a few years.
Consciousness gradually develops over several years.
Compete consciousness comes with the first realization of individual’s mortality.
But I think it is correct to consider born babies as humans with the same rights as any other human.
It is not self-conscious even long after it is born
But based on your above statement, that is the core of your contention.
I think it is correct to consider born babies as humans
Based on what, then?
And what about babies not born, but, fully viable and capable of being born? Would you allow their murder or, like Roe v. Wade, use “viability” as your “bright line?”
At least you are, it appears, unlike MANY Democrats (and some Republicans, too) who voted as Obama did against the “Infant Born Alive Protection Act.”
“A fetus at any stage is not self conscious”
Do you have any evidence to support that belief?
Or is that what you want to believe?
Fetuses are only self-conscious in Hollywood movies.
If in your religious belief a zygote is self-conscious, I am not going to spend time searching for evidence to convince you otherwise.
I am not advocating abortions. I am a simply saying that a planned abortion does not have the same consequences to society as death of an adult.
Maybe check out the charges against the murderer of a pregnant woman.
Irrelevant.
The relevance is: in American criminal law, there would be 2 counts of murder. Also, see American estate planning law: a property value must vest within the lifetime of lives in being plus 21 years PLUS 9 months.
Yes, your moral relevance makes any ought statement you make completely irrelevant. Such is the self-refuting worldview you adhere to.
Once again, you assume that forcing everyone to ride bikes is cost free.
In many instances, bicycles can be more dangerous than cars. Cars provide protection in a crash, bikes provide none. At the speeds many people ride their bikes, a crash can cause serious injury or death.
No, I am not. I am also not advocating making everyone ride bikes. Where do you get that idea from?
Yes you are, even though you can’t bring yourself to admit it.
Since you don’t include the increase in deaths and injuries that will be caused by more people riding bikes, you are assuming that there won’t be an increase, which is wrong.
Looking at only the half of the equation that benefits you is not a reasonable position to take.
“The burden of road traffic deaths and injuries disproportionately affects low- and middle-income countries, which account for over 90% of global road traffic deaths despite having only 60% of the world’s registered vehicles.”
Bad roads
Bad driving habits, including lack of respect for human life
Poorly maintained cars
The solution is not to reduce the number of cars or cars per capita, but to improve infrastructure, driver education and make sure every car on the road has good breaks.
I said in the vanished post that the question for the critics of MyUserName is whether they think these death and injury and financial costs are worth the benefits they think cars bring.
100% of the world’s population is infected with a common disease that has a 100% mortality rate. It’s called life. We all die. Some sooner than others, but it is unavoidable.
If we had no cars or trucks, how many would die from starvation or lack of medical assistance?
How many would die from the marauding bands that would result from anarchy?
Every action has consequences. Every action has risks.
Trying to create an equation of death/injury/financial costs versus car benefits is sophistry.
Yes, the benefits of automated mechanical transportation greatly outweighs the costs and risks.
“Yes, the benefits of automated mechanical transportation greatly outweighs the costs and risks.”
Bares repeating. !!
The majority of vehicle accidents are individual vehicles crashing into fixed objects.
Now replace cars hitting fixed objects with bikes hitting fixed objects. Does anyone with a functioning brain actually believe that this change will result in fewer deaths and injuries?
I suffered a concussion riding a bicycle hitting a fire hydrant when I was young.
My personal experience makes me heartily agree.
Who is going to pay for Lusername’s Utopia City?
Biden will just add another $100T to the national debt. That should get us off to a good start. (/sarc)
Oh yeah, that’ll do it.
I’ve asked this question a number of times – yours is the first that anyone has composed for an answer.
“According to the latest WHO data published in 2020 Road Traffic Accidents Deaths in China reached 250,272 or 2.61% of total deaths. “
In North America less than 1%.
I think that the times we are living through are paganism writ large.
As I recall, even during the time of the pagan Roman Empire, those in charge did things that improved the lot of the common people.
Our pagans won’t even do that.
Don’t confuse the secular-progressive religion with Paganism. I know some Pagans and they’re libertarian-conservative. I’m not sure that’s a representative sample.
They did until they became enamored of Greed.
I won’t live in an American city. Battery vehicles do not work. So these people can jog right off with their ICE vehicle hatred.
The discussion about the regulation of cars is more a personal choice argument than a safety argument. People choose to drive for many reasons including the need to provide for their family by going to work and to have the mobility to purchase what they need including food and clothing. The alternatives such as public transportation do not and cannot work efficiency as they don’t go where people need and want to go in a reasonable amount of time.
Traffic accidents are often due to inattention or disregard for the rules of the road. This is an educational and enforcement issue, and not really a car issue. However, there is the golden rule of driving that must be understood, “You Cannot Fix Stupid!”. And that is probably more the cause of traffic accidents than any other cause.
In my experience, bicycle riders are even less likely to obey the rules of the road.
There are a small percentage that fall under “Act of God” meaning no one is at fault, it just happens sometimes.
I’ve hit black ice a time or two. Wonder what the result would have been had I been on two wheels instead of 4.
Broken leg or arm or worse.
I lost control of my bike (when I was young) more than once. I was fortunate only minor abrasions and contusions and no broken bones.
If kids bodies weren’t tough, few of us would make it to adulthood.
It’s all according to the “plan”. Anyone that didn’t see this coming is naive.
This is slightly OT, but this article gives yet another reason to not buy EVs:
Car dealers throw cold water on electric vehicles versus gas options: ‘I wouldn’t feel safe’
Data breaches? Wow. I thought you were going with my greatest fear.
Lithium Ion Polymer Organic battery fires.
I don’t believe it’s a good idea to throw too much water, cold or otherwise, on an electric vehicle.
I read an article this morning about a driver took his bullet proof EV through a car was to get beach sand off and the car would not start.
I have seen the images from Chicago where it was too cold to recharge an EV.
have already conceded that synthetic hydrocarbons are green.
Do they not produce CO2?
Or, is it actually not about CO2?
“So now it’s not about the CO2 at all. It’s about following orders, doing what you’re told” – James Cole (probably), 12 Monkeys
Yes (/sarc) biofuels are great. Eliminate crops to produce organic fuels that emit CO2 when burned. Growing the organics for the fuel produces CO2, methane, and uses nitrogen fertilizer.
But it’s all about public image and virtue signaling. Biofuels my be renewable in the truest sense, but they are not Net Zero.
One of my neighbors down the road has a 1941 Chevrolet farm truck with a modern diesel-powered air compressor mounted on its bed. This truck was bought new by the current owner’s grandfather and has been in use on the owner’s farm for eighty-three years.
Here in the year 2024, I will not be separated from my beloved made-in-America 2010 Mazda 6 until they unwrap my cold dead fingers from around the steering wheel.
The car refuses to wear out. I’ve taken it places no one should ever take a car and it hasn’t gotten stuck. Is it possible my great grandchildren could be driving this same Mazda 6 seventy years from now in the year 2094? (Or a car very much like it.)
Would gasoline of sufficient quantity and quality be available to those great grandchildren seventy years from now in the year 2094?
The answer here is that using supercritical high-temperature nuclear reactors for both electricity and for process heat, we can extract CO2 from the oceans at greater efficiency than we could by extracting it from the air; and further, we can manufacture hydrocarbon gasoline and diesel fuels from the CO2 and the H2 extracted/disassociated from seawater.
It will make no sense to attempt this approach until after peak oil has passed and after the long-term economics of nuclear-powered carbon fuel generation looks a good deal better than it looks today. That said, hydrocarbon fuels are indispensable and will remain indispensable centuries into the future.
Perhaps methane rather than hydrocarbon gasoline. MIT has developed a technology that through a process similar to photosynthesis in plants produces methane from CO2 in the air and sunlight.
That is not getting the attention it deserves.
It will be a fascinating read to see the technology needed to extract CO2 from the ocean and make a fuel. The planet does that naturally when it subducts ocean water and the heat of the mantle cooks the CO2 into methane.
There is no easy substitute for liquid hydrocarbon fuels, gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel. We can already produce these liquid fuels from natural gas if we are willing to pay the necessary price per gallon.
Using ocean water as the source material, a demonstration plant using supercritical nuclear to produce synthetic gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel from CO2 and H2 extracted from seawater could be up and running by the late 2030’s, if we put our minds to it.
The question to be answered is this … At this point in history, should we bother putting our minds to it? Is there any reason to design and build such a nuclear-powered demonstration plant in the next twenty years, other than just to spend lots of money?
The larger point to be made is that we will never run out of liquid carbon fuels assuming we are willing to pay a price per gallon we think is both necessary and economically affordable for our particular purposes, whatever those purposes might be.
Like running a farm tractor, or a harvest combine, or an eighteen-wheeler tractor-trailer combo for a few examples.
Poor Europeans. From he Post War 1940’s into the 1970’s many could barely afford cars and gasoline. Now after 30-40 years of having cars their politicians want to ruin it for them. Europe with its dependence on immigrant labor must be a growing classist two tier society. The have’s have cars and the have nots take the bus. Europe needs to be careful. All the labor could go to Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore and other parts of East Asia where there is a growing labor crisis due to depopulation.
Story Tip
Great report on the collapse of EV sales. !
The West’s electric car giants now risk destroying themselves | NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT (wordpress.com)
Go woke, virtue-seeking… Go broke !
I like the last line….
“and start campaigning not just for the ending of the ZEV Mandate and the ban on ICEs, but the abolition of the Net Zero Act itself?”
There is just no viable alternative to cars for almost everybody in the US.
Moreover, I don’t WANT an alternative 🙂. I love to DRIVE. FREEDOM!! Yeeeeehawww!
“Life is a Highway” (from movie “Cars”)
The destruction of Western economies is no accident. This is not some horrible unforeseen effect of a well meaning policy. I would posit that the entire reason for the “environmental” policies, which will do nothing to effect the environment in any positive way, is the planned destruction of the economies and infrastructure of the industrialised world. The people behind this plan on instituting an authoritarian technocratic world government from which there will be no escape. You will own nothing and you WILL be happy… or else. Many people would consider this to be a conspiracy theory. But, it is far from theory. They have been holding regular meetings and producing reports that detail exactly what they plan to do and how they plan to do it for decades. But, most people simply cannot fathom that anyone would be so evil as to want to enslave the whole world, eliminating a large portion of the global population in the process. The underlying motivations of these people is a little too in depth for a comment in an article thread though. For a very good glimpse into it, I would recommend checking out James Lindsay’s (New Discourses) latest podcast entitled: The Occult Theosophy of the United Nations. It’s two and a half hours, but well worth the listen.
It has a name. One World Order.
One government is troublesome enough, layering one government on another is insanity. Stop it!
One government to rule them all.
Apologies to J.R.R. Tolkein
Malthusians, I have observed, never seem to think they should start with themselves. Pity, because the world would be a better place without them.
Cars etc are most certainly not bad. The Private car rescued us all during Covid – yet some cannot grasp that. We need more roads, more parking and more incentives to increasing road transport and freight. NONE of which should of course be electricity based.