Climate Summit’s U-Turn – From Heroic Vows to Muffled Whispers
In a performance worthy of the finest comedians, the COP28 climate summit has managed to turn its bold proclamation of ending fossil fuels into a farcical retreat. Politico’s recent article, dated December 11, 2023, paints a vivid picture of this tragicomic scene.
Dramatic U-Turn in the Land of Oil
The article begins with a dramatic setting: the oil-rich United Arab Emirates, where the once-loud calls for a fossil fuel phaseout have been reduced to mere whispers of ‘reducing’ them. This grandiose plan, initially supported by environmental groups and certain nations, has fizzled out, much to the chagrin of activists and self-proclaimed environmental saviors. As Politico puts it,
“The prospect of a deal to end fossil fuels faded…when organizers…released a draft proposal that merely suggested reducing them instead.”
A Chorus of Discontent
Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, in a statement that reeks of hyperbole, declares, “COP28 is now on the verge of complete failure.” Meanwhile, U.S. climate envoy John Kerry, during a fractious meeting, laments that the draft
“really doesn’t meet the expectations…in terms of the urgently needed transition to clean sources of energy.”
The irony here is thick – the very champions of these policies seem shocked that their unrealistic expectations are unmet.
The Realists Strike Back
In a twist of practicality, representatives of countries including China and India firmly oppose any language suggesting a phaseout or phase-down of specific energy sources. These nations, perhaps more anchored in reality, recognize the impracticality and economic harakiri such policies would entail. The article notes,
“Negotiations…were expected to continue through the wee hours…the scheduled final day of the summit.”
The Green Disillusionment
Environmental advocates and some EU members view this change as a betrayal, their utopian dreams clashing with the unyielding wall of reality. The Marshall Islands’ John Silk melodramatically states,
“The Republic of the Marshall Islands did not come here to sign our death warrant,”
highlighting the emotional, rather than rational, underpinning of such arguments.
A Middle Ground or A Mirage?
While some, like Mohamed Adow of Power Shift Africa, see the deal as laying “the ground for transformational change,” others express skepticism. French Minister for Energy Transition Agnès Pannier-Runacher melodically laments,
“I don’t know what will happen to my kids tomorrow if we stick to this text.”
Conclusion: The Theater of Absurdity
The COP28 summit, as outlined in Politico’s report, emerges not as a forum of rational discourse and pragmatic solutions but as a theater of the absurd. The retreat from a fossil fuel phaseout to a vague suggestion of ‘reducing’ them is not just a policy failure; it is a testament to the unrealistic and often theatrical nature of the climate debate. It lays bare the chasm between the lofty ideals of environmental activism and the pragmatic realities of global energy needs. One can’t help but appreciate the humor in watching these climate crusaders grapple with the inconvenient truth that their lofty alarmist aspirations often crumble under the weight of practicality. Welcome to the real world, where good intentions meet the hard road of reality.
Addendum: Michael Mann has the sads.
As the 28th United Nations climate summit (COP28) draws to a close in Dubai, after another year of devastating heat waves, droughts, wildfires, storms and record high global temperatures, the entire process is threatening to break down. Not only has COP28 failed to meet this moment demanding dramatic and immediate climate action — it has made a caricature of it.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-12-11/climate-summit-dubai-cop28
It probably takes a caricature to recognise one. Here’s another….
“”However we do it, we need to break the power of the Earth-devouring industries before they break us. Otherwise, we will keep watching as yet another year is wasted, yet another of our last chances scorches and shrivels. Soon, there will be no years left.”” George Monbiot
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/09/cop28-rigged-fail-save-planet-climate-summit-fossil-fuel
A plea for going back to the caves
They are truly demented.
But just how does anyone get the message across that CO₂ is the symptom and not the cause of what’s been so far observed.
i.e That the heating is katabatic in origin and not from the wildly contrived ‘trapped heat’
And we have GOT to put the brakes on that as it is self-reinforcing, as Europe found out all through this year..
So simple to do.
Munch up some basalt/shale/granite, spread it around wherever ‘resistant ridges’ occur and plant plant plant plant trees trees trees and more trees.
NOT conifers, invasive incendiary rubbish that they are
They will suck water out of the ocean, create anticyclonic weather and rain – instead of the ridges constantly pumping water out of the land and taking it offshore. Holy cow, the ocean has plenty water in it already, WE do not need to fill it even more.
When the trees do that, temps and weather will stabilize, hot & cold waves will evaporate and biggest bonus of all, we can emit everything anything we want in way of CO₂
Until ‘the cows come home’ and then, we can eat (some of) them.
We really do have to be doing that.
There’s no getting through to the devout like Moonbat or Mann.
They ‘believe’ and that is all that matters – to them.
To be fair to Moonbat, he’s being saying something similar about trees for decades.
Deranged then, and deranged now….
“Guardian columnist George Monbiot came to live in Mid Wales a while ago. We can’t have made him feel very welcome, as he has been campaigning non-stop against our sheep-farming way of life ever since. He is fond of referring to sheep as ‘woolly maggots‘. He has described Britain’s countryside as being ‘sheep-wrecked‘. He has complained that the landscape of Dartmoor has been ‘comprehensively shagged’ by the ‘white plague’. I am tempted to ask: ‘Are you okay, George?’”
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/10/the-green-war-on-sheep/
Moonbat makes good points about hill grazing sheep. They eat everything including early shoots of tree growth and their hooves compact the soil. The lack of tree growth and a compacted soil causes flash floods as rainwater simply runs off the surface of the hillsides into the valleys below, swelling streams and rivers beyond their capacity.
There are no tree root systems to break up the underlying soil to create soakaways for the rain water, no tree trunks to physically resist water washed down the hillsides and no leaf debris to help soak up the water.
The article you cite goes on to make a song and dance about “Mighty Oaks” but a deciduous forest is made up of many species, some of which are happy rooting in thinner soils. The “thorns” Myfanwy dismisses out of hand is still a root bound barrier to unrestricted run off. Scotland is covered in the stuff.
I’m not saying Moonbat isn’t a nutter, he is, but it’s worth reading what he says before citing his critics, uncritically.
HotScot,
if you are a farmer with land that is hilly then sheep are about all that you can do with it. Not the most profitable farming scenario but if that is all you have?
Rivers or more accurately streams cut their own channels so rainwater run off is not a problem with such terrain, it is low flat lands that have a problem with flooding. Not much of that in North Wales.
Do you suppose George is ‘into’ sheep in a big way?
What’s he say about trees? Now, that’s the one thing I can talk about with some knowledge.
Your observations are very welcome as you have considerable experience of forestry.
From Arch Deacon Monbiot
A Manifesto for Rewilding the World
https://www.monbiot.com/2013/05/27/a-manifesto-for-rewilding-the-world/
Amen,brother.
oh, the rewilding thing- sounds nice except for all the consequences
“Through rewilding – the mass restoration of ecosystems – I see an opportunity to reverse the destruction of the natural world.”
No ecosystems have been destroyed- modified yes, not destroyed. It’s the old paganism- worship Mother Nature. I worked out in Mother Nature for 50 years- I like her but I don’t worship her. I’ve gotten a lot of trees harvested for the benefit of humans. I’ve got 3 videos on my YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@JoeZorzin/videos) of logging work, and one of the construction of a solar farm behind my ‘hood, a few wild ones taken with my 360 camera, and now I’ve started a series addressing crazy forestry and climate policies here in Wokeachusetts. I don’t claim to be any good at video work since I can’t afford professional equipment.
Monbiot could hardly be described as a rational human being, Joseph.
How long does it take a deciduous forest to mature?
Depends on how long it takes them to chop it down and send it off to Yorkshire to be burned at Drax.
bullshit- try talking to foresters to get your facts straight
Yep, and talk to a climate “scientist” about CAGW.
lol
I can’t grasp why people who are skeptical of climate idiocy don’t appreciate forestry and its ability to produce a small amount of energy and a lot of wood products- and why they don’t understand that before ranting against Drax, they ought to get their facts straight.
there are 3 kinds of forest maturity- economic, ecologic and pathologic
everything is complicated
The battle to refute CAGW climate alarmism will not be helped by your bizarre climate “science” theories.
Manmade CO2 emissions are a climate forcing
Humans increased atmospheric CO2 +50% in the past 173 years
That extra CO2 reduced Earth’s ability to cool itself by some amount, that has been harmless
In fact, more CO2 benefits plant growth and more / bigger plants will support more life on our planet.
That’s real climate science.
Stop spreading alt science claptrap.
It’s about time someone told you that.
Yaaaawwwwwnnnnnn.
Human activity is said to add X billion tons (X because estimates vary, fill in whatever number you prefer) of “carbon” annually. At this time of year in the northern hemisphere there are trillions of tons of dead plant matter decomposing into CO2 and methane, so what we add is background noise to nature itself. CO2 is currently around 420 parts per million, (https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2) increased, they tell us, from 280 ppm in 1850. That’s a difference of 140 ppm, or in terms more readily understood by the layman, the composition of the atmosphere has changed by 0.014% (14 thousandths of 1%) in the last 170 years. Less than 1 thousandth of 1% per decade. Human activity is responsible for 4% of that increase, Henry’s law accounts for the rest. Satellites have observed that the planet has greened in the last couple of decades by a far greater amount than our “emissions”. (https://www.nasa.gov/technology/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth-study-finds/) The so-called “greenhouse effect” of CO2 has NEVER been detected or demonstrated in open atmosphere, it is based on a laboratory experiment with the gas confined in a tube. There is no “climate crisis”, nature is doing this all by itself.
It’s about time someone told you that.
WELL SAID..
…. but you can’t explain the reality of CO2 increases to lukewarmer semi-AGW believers.
Phasing out or phasing down fossil fuels, purposely leaves in place high energy consumption per capita in the Western world, while preventing such high energy consumption per capita in Africa, without which their economies cannot develop.
That leaves plenty of fossil fuels available for the Western world, because Africans will not be allowed to use them.
They will be reminded by the West, with a big stick:
“You are in phase-out/phase-down mode”
“You are allowed to use high-cost wind, solar and batteries which we, the West, will provide,
“We, the West, will loan you the money, at high interest rates,
to hang yourself forever.
Africans would stay soooo screwed, and stay soooo colonized
Pot meet kettle.
“Humans increased atmospheric CO2 +50% in the past 173 years”
Just plain wrong.. natural increases due to warming have added a considerable amount.. way more than humans.. and still do.
“Manmade CO2 emissions are a climate forcing”
No evidence of that.
“Manmade CO2 emissions are a climate forcing”
No evidence of that.
third quote was meant to be
“That extra CO2 reduced Earth’s ability to cool itself by some amount”
and there is no evidence of that.
What “heating”??? 1.5°C over my half-century is nothing to worry about – it’s barely an adequate start!
I was a kid during the mid-70s when S. Ontario got Buffalo NY levels of snow, and I was going through engineering physics when it rained every Christmas, now it’s sort of inbetween. Where’s the emergency? Where’s the anomaly?
Bring on the CO2 and learn to love the heat!
While it lasts…
Somebody who owns a cave should give it to him saying, “please live here for a year- then tell us about it”.
Moonbat has pretty well done that. As a young man he travelled to some extreme environments to live and work. He’s also a Zoologist so has a broad range of knowledge, not as well qualified as my daughter though, and not nearly as pragmatic as Lord Matt Ridley who is also a Zoologist.
Moonbat’s glass is always half empty.
My prescription for him is to take some LSD in a nice park. He’ll then conclude it’s a pretty good world the way it is- and more than half full. 🙂
Moonbat really lost the plot some time ago and he’s been wandering further and further away from reality as the years have gone by. I find myself in almost complete disagreement with the Socialist idjit, only after he did a complete U-turn on his views of nuclear energy. He is the absolute epitome of the privileged middle class that doesn’t understand the world around them and long to inhabit a fantasy world of their own creation.
Can’t disagree with that. When I first came across him, he was a bit ‘out there’ but not yet completely off his trolly.
A cave is a great place to live…if you’re unable to build a hut.
A hut is a great place to live…if you’re unable to build a house.
A house is a great place to live…if you’re unable to provide insulation.
An insulated house is a great place to live…if you’re unable provide controlled heating.
Etc., etc.
There simply aren’t enough caves for 9 billion people to live in. Short of mass annihilations, other plans are necessary if controlling CO2 emissions were to be actually important to maintaining life on earth. Reality would be a great place to start. Unfortunately, the political classes don’t need to face reality. They only need to keep themselves in power.
“”The COP28 summit, as outlined in Politico’s report, emerges not as a forum of rational discourse and pragmatic solutions but as a theater of the absurd. “”
And blatant disregard for protocol
[Scottish First Minister] Humza Yousaf met with five different foreign leaders during Cop28 without an official from the UK Government present, Scottish Secretary Alister Jack has claimed.
A row erupted over the Scottish First Minister’s meeting with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan after Lord David Cameron on Sunday wrote a letter reprimanding him.””
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1844517/humza-yousaf-cop-ursula-von-der-leyen
Pass the popcorn
The SNP is dying a death of a thousand cuts. Not before time.
Hello Mr Starmer…
Not even the labour party are as mental as the SNP.
Having labour elected in Scotland would at least be a step in the right direction as there will be some control imposed on them by Westminster. As it is, Westminster imposes no control over the SNP.
Not that Wales is a good advertisement for the labour party exercising sensible control over it’s devolved politicians.
“Not even the labour party are as mental as the SNP.”
No, the point is the collapse of the SNP in Scotland will usher in Labour in Scotland and most probably as the new UK Government
That’s the point I made.
Scotland will make no difference as to whether Kneeler gets in or not in England. The Tories have screwed the pooch and it’s far too late for them to recover.
What exactly is the difference between the parties?
Absolutely nothing bar the rhetoric.
You’re having a laugh. Named person – remember that one?
The ongoing ferry scandal? A penny in the pound extra taxation to pay for public services like the NHS which is in a worse state than it is anywhere else in the UK.
Highest drug deaths in Europe?
Withdrawing from an international education database as results were so bad for a ‘developed’ nation it was embarrassing?
Allowing juvenile gender reassignment?
The list just goes on and on.
Even Corbyn and McDonnell at their worst weren’t as bad as Sturgeon and Yousless.
The SNP cut their own throats with their insane alliance with the Scottish Greens whose policies can only be described as utterly detached from reality.
The SNP were always barmy. In the 70’s and 80’s they were considered a complete political joke, then Maggie made a monumental blunder with the poll tax.
That was the fatal mistake, not the greens.
I see the police investigation is still rolling slowly onwards, this time adding a luxury Jaguar EV to the motorhome the SNP are suspected to have purchased with public money. It could take a while, but it isn’t looking good.
Stonybridge town council should have gone out to COP and met with leaders behind the Scottish Government’s back.
Encouraged international tourism and the next available Olympics to come to Stonybridge, with its stony bridge.
French Minister for Energy Transition Agnès Pannier-Runacher melodically laments,
“I don’t know what will happen to my kids tomorrow if we stick to this text.”
I think they’ll be just fine Agnes my dear-
French energy transition minister accused of conflict of interest – EURACTIV.com
They really are a bunch of sanctimonious tossers aren’t they?
They’ll do what they usually do. He will be sectioned
Did they really think Sultan al-Jaber and MBS were going to say “The UAE is so terrified of an extra 1.5ºC above the 50ºC we frequently have, we’ll stop all oil production and impoverish the entire middle east for the sake of some lentil munching, blue haired, pseudo scientific crumblies sitting in the middle of the road at 25ºC claiming 26.5ºC will boil the planet.”
Are they arranging a COP in China any time soon so that 1.4 billion people can laugh and jeer at them for suggesting the country abandons coal and every man woman and child willingly repeats the catastrophe of Mao’s Great Leap Forward and blame the sparrows for tens of millions of deaths from starvation?
Are they arranging a COP in China any time soon…
Don’t have to as Gaia is wreaking her displeasure and vengeance on Sodom and Gomorrah now-
Storm hitting Chinese ports is a wakeup call for climate risk to markets (msn.com)
There’s no escaping the dooming lest they repent and go back to opium instead of CO2 or something like that. The jet in kneesup 100,000 know best.
Suddenly the MSM becomes a reliable source just as soon as it conforms to someone’s argument.
Did you know that this is the first storm to EVAH hit a Chinese port !!
It is truly unprecedented.. 😉
So, HotScot, take your 50 deg C in UAE, and the minus 50 deg C reported yesterday in Siberia, and somewhere in between (Northern Kazakhastan?) is CAGW NIRVANA. COP 29, let.s go!
Seems fair.
Wonderful description of the blue haired, lentil munching. Now I have an idea of what crumblies are, but I’m curious about its colloquial definition.
Crumblies – Middle class, old aged pensioners, desperate to be relevant and trendy (for once in their miserable lives) with far too much time on their hands to read/watch the MSM and not enough computer literacy or education to conduct their own research.
Oh, out here in Kalifornia that would be Sierra Clubers trotting about in their Outbacks, proud useful idiots closing down more public lands.
Not as old as a wrinkly but getting there.
Here we go again. How can a 12 year old child “storm” a stage?
Didn’t she just ‘walk up the steps’? Or even ‘interrupt’ the conference?
Nope, its gotta be ‘STORM the Stage’.
One of their “storm surges…”
Here we go again. How can a 12 year old child “storm” a stage?
Seniority?
Perhaps they chose the smartest crumbly in the group.
Not a crumbly. Add another 40 years and she might be though.
By George, I think I’ve got it. Thank you.
🤣
Anything a 12 year old has to say is just an echo of what the kid has been told.
It looks to have been a staged ‘storm the stage’ stunt – doesn’t take anybody by surprise and a few of the delegates look like they were expecting it. They may be grooming Greta’s replacement.
This was the first COP with a realistic plan to reduce carbon emissions.
The UK reduced our emissions by switching from coal to gas. Replacing CO2 with some water emissions. Qatar had the idea of selling its gas to replace coal and practically reduce emissions while making lots of profit.
Only Hydro, Nuclear and Gas can replace Coal. They are reliable. But there are only so many places where hydro can be built and nuclear takes years to come online. Even China won’t take shortcuts over building a nuclear power station. So only Gas can immediately reduce emissions. As it has been proven to do in the UK.
But this would be a disaster for the Greens.
We saw over Covid that reducing emissions does not measurably affect atmospheric CO2 concentration or, therefore, Global Warming.
If the plan to reduce emissions had been adopted, then the whole jolly COP-fest falls apart. There are literally thousands of NGOs and hundreds of thousands of employees who were desperate for the plan to fail. They cannot afford to do anything that might fix Global Warming. Because if it’s fixed, they are unnecessary or worse (and they know this is probable) if the fix does nothing they are exposed as charlatans.
This was the first COP with a realistic plan to reduce carbon emissions. So, it had to fail.
There’s always Azerbaijan….
I think by now Al Jaber will have warned the Azeri’s.
Yes. The Guardian reported:
“Azerbaijan chosen to host Cop29 after fraught negotiations.”
So they made some progress then.
I guess the next thing on the agenda will be to agree the menu choices. 🙂
Meanwhile, the BBC reported:
“COP28: Climate mums make themselves heard in halls of power”.
Some random mothers seem to have travelled all the way to “…the sweltering heat of Dubai” from the Solomon Islands to tell the world how frightened their children are.
The “sweltering heat of Dubai” was 27°C, partly cloudy/sunny today.
Gizo, Solomon Islands is forecast to be 31°C tomorrow.
nuclear takes years to come online. Even China won’t take shortcuts over building a nuclear power station
There’s a difference between taking a “short cut” and enduring decades of bureaucratic obstruction.
The design and construction of a nuclear generating station isn’t due to physical difficulties, it’s byzantine regulations by the same governments that are approving solar arrays and wind turbines. The paperwork involved in building one ends up being of greater volume than the power house itself. While, like any mechanical process, the design and operation of nuclear facilities changes over time as knowledge increases, the essentials have remained the same through the years.
The same academics that have created the climate change paranoia are also, with the help of the media, are also the fiercest critics of nuclear power. Remember, more people were killed at the Who concert at Riverfront Stadium in Cincinnati in 1979 than at Three Mile Island.
Thank you Lord, for saving us from hysterical climate demagogues.
They know their gig is up.
No more wasteful, CO2 emitting COPs
They have hit the wall and splattered
NET ZERO BY 2050 IS A “SUICIDE PACT”
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/net-zero-by-2050-is-a-suicide-pact
Al Jaber is Right: There Is no Science Showing a Fossil Fuel Phase-Out Will Achieve 1.5C
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/al-jaber-is-right-there-is-no-science-showing-a-fossil-fuel-phase
The climate zealots are like the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland. They insist on believing in 6 impossible things before breakfast. Giving up belief in decarbonization (or net-zero) would be a good start. Then the can move on to wind and solar power, battery storage, EVs, a hydrogen economy and fusion power. There’s a lot more that the COPers “know for sure that isn’t true.” (M. Twain)
Conference of The Chicken Littles
Malcolm was there rubbing shoulders with the elite doomsters and no doubt he’ll blame Rupert Murdoch for another ignominious COPOUT-
Australians want credible climate policies: Turnbull (msn.com)
Ex inventor of Oz internet and PM Malcolm is another Point Piper millionaire dilettante making the community more aware of the impending dooming and associated drastic sea level rise naturally-
Inside Malcolm Turnbull’s Point Piper mansion (domain.com.au)
#38 was the most important Climate Outrage Party so far. Not because a record 100,000 -e0-le attended. Not because the price for hookers set a new record. Not for the usual save the planet claptrap.
This time nuclear power got some attention
This time some of the nations among those that hold over 7/8th of the world’s total population, who never cared about Nut Zero, let it be known that they didn’t care about Nut Zero.
These nations usually keep quiet and lobby for loans or gifts form a Green Slush Fund,
Their charade seems to be fading away.
One good observer had this to say about COP #38:
COP 28 is a really big fossil fuel trade show – CFACT
My daily recommended climat and energy article reading list, including many good articles from this website:
Honest Climate Science and Energy Blog
How did you acquire such a thorough knowledge of the prices hookers charge?
He asked climate delegates
Either that, or what we climate scientists call independent research.
I entered the COP38 scary climate change slogan contest this year with three slogans, but they did not win.
(1) Climate Change Will Kill Your Dog
(2) Big Oil Despoils and Makes Oceans Boil
(3) We Are Zipping Toward a Tipping Point
Number 3 is a winner.
Chickens are plucked, and we are …too.
When you’ve removed an ULEZ camera, what do you do with it?
Labour HQ in Chipping Barnet has been adorned with a torn down ULEZ camera, with a rebellious video of the scene circulating on social media. Labour candidate Dan Tomlinson hasn’t commented on the defacement. Not quite the Christmas wreath Labour may have had in mind…
https://order-order.com/2023/12/11/ulez-camera-adorns-chipping-barnet-labour-hq/
COP 28 didn’t seem to massage the collective egos of the concerned but at the same time it couldn’t put the brakes on efforts to implement their ideology at other levels. First of all, the concept of a “global climate” is nonsense no matter how many thermometers are scattered across the planet. The climate of Whitehorse, Y.T., Canada can never be correlated with that of Palembang, Sumatra. The 1.5 C threshold is an arbitrary figure which may or may not be attained at any given location at any given time.
Regardless of their lack of scientific meaning, cherry-picked temperatures are being used to justify immense transfers of wealth and unnecessary restrictions on human behavior already put in place by national governments with more to come. COP 28 didn’t have the power to expand, neutralize or eliminate the international effort to bring all human activity under the control of academic Cassandras. It was a type of public relations campaign designed to advance a particular viewpoint. The fact that its assumptions weren’t immediately advanced to or applauded by large segments of the public is evidence of the shaky ground on which they are based. Celebrating the next Green convention in Azerbaijan is likely to produce a smaller and less enthusiastic attendance. We may be seeing the sputtering out of the COP phenomenon. But the procedures already in place in the developed West, the solar panel arrays, wind turbine farms, CO2 sequestration efforts, green hydrogen development etc, won’t be stopped by a failed COP. Sane people still have much to do.
I am surprised by the number of useful idiots willing to attend climate protests. These dills are often involved in illegal and dangerous activities.
Their source of funding has to be cut off. The broader public who are being harmed by these activities need to go after the funding sources. There is no point having the dill charged and fined. Their backer will pay the fine. The penalty must be much harsher and at the source of the funds. Fining ten dills $100 cost the backer $1000. Now if the backer faced serious jail time for funding extremist activity then things might change.
Otherwise real change will await a series of major catastrophe like power outage resulting in thousands of deaths.
You deplorables need a Minister for Misinformation-
One of the world’s ‘greatest democracies’ peddles ‘horror’ misinformation bill (msn.com)
I just wish Alimonti was as famous as Mann..
>> after another year of devastating heat waves, droughts, wildfires, storms and record high global temperatures
vs.
“””
A similar pattern over time is exhibited by contemporaneous number of geophysical disasters – volcanoes, earthquakes, dry landslides – which, by their nature, are not significantly influenced by climate or anthropogenic factors. We conclude that the patterns observed are largely attributable to progressively better reporting of natural disaster events,
“””
https://doi.org/10.1080/17477891.2023.2239807
We conclude that the patterns observed are largely attributable to progressively better reporting of natural disaster events, and massive global dissemination of same to everyone’s hand-held touch-screens thereby producing much anxiety and paranoia that’s easily exploited by nefarious actors.
Give it a day or so and MSM will be loudly broadcasting it as a success.
“good intentions meet the hard road of reality”
I think it’s safe to say by now that their intentions are far from good.
Failure is a COP tradition with a long history.
The truth starkly revealed: COP-OUT28
Just read the COP28 Joint Statement on Climate, Nature and People.
I will sum it up: A tasteless smorgasbord of gobbledygook
I think COP28 clarified a lot.
The majority of earths population (about 6 billion) has no ambition to phase out fossil fuel. On the contrary – they have the ambition to increase utilization of fossil fuel.
A minority, US/EU (about 1 billion), think it is necessary to do this in order to avoid a catastrophe.
My guess is that he majority (China, Inia, Indonesia, Japan,…) has the opinion that increased utilization will not lead to a catastrophe.
Bottom line – the majority does not believe in a climate catastrophe. A minority does.
Considering this, why arrange COP29? It is all clear – the majority does not trust western “science” any longer. Nor do I.
“ A minority does.”
From the way they act, and the things they do (private jets, huge estates etc etc)..
… I would say that the majority of that minority were only play-acting and in it for the cash, power and virtue-seeking. !!
Two-thirds of the Republicans under thirty support the climate change agenda, 42 percent of Republicans overall support it, as well as 61 percent of Americans, and 90 percent of Democrats.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/09/what-the-data-says-about-americans-views-of-climate-change/
Woke educators have been very successful in dumbing down students.
Only if you fail to tell them the cost of the Leftist agenda for climate serfdom.
In 2020 when COVID spread worldwide, human emissions of CO2 dropped by 6% according to the International Energy Agency, yet the rate of increase of CO2 didn’t change a bit.
That is a natural experiment that shows human emissions of CO2 aren’t causing the continuing rise in CO2.
https://www.iea.org/reports/global-energy-review-2020/global-energy-and-co2-emissions-in-2020
https://www.co2.earth/monthly-co2
Then what is causing the continuing rise in CO2, using numbers. From ~280ppm to 400+ppm is a rise.
Natural CO2 is increasing. It was at a very low level during the LIA and plants were on a starvation diet. Warmth, humidity and more CO2 have increased the greening of the planet which has, in turn, produced more and more CO2. This idea that plants are carbon sinks only works in some areas where they transpire more, in other areas where they respire more than they transpire, they are a source of CO2, not a sink at all.
Numbers, Richard, numbers. You know, that sciency stuff?
No, it’s not a “natural experiment”. It’s an observation that may or may not be indicative of a fact. There are other factors involved in the changing composition of the atmosphere. How does the IEA determine the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere at any given time to a single percentage point and how do they know the amount the enters the atmosphere over any particular period? You’re very gullible. Can I sell you a barely used 1990 Yugo?
Which Pacific islands are threatened by sea level rise? Pethaps it’s the Maldives that were predicted 30 years ago to be underwater by now – hence that absurd video of the underwater committee meeting that was so pushed by the unspeakable BBC. They’re building four new airports for the tourist trade
There was no retreat. I pointed out in Nov that several countries were dead set against the phase out language and it would take a miracle for it to be in the final statement since every country has a veto. The extremists calling for phase out were out of phase from the beginning. Nothing has changed since Nov.
The only question is will there be a compromise, which is still unlikely given the polarization, or no final statement? That much is much fun.
Here is my stuff from Nov:
https://www.cfact.org/2023/11/29/un-cop-28-is-not-a-democracy/