From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
You would be excused for not noticing, but we have apparently just had six months of global boiling!
So what effect has this had in England in the Summer Half Year?
Temperatures were lower than in 2006, 2018 and 2022:
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-and-regional-series
And rainfall was close to the long term average:
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/climate/maps-and-data/uk-and-regional-series
Somehow we all managed to live through this boiling!
I have this neat device for helping me to determine how seasons progress and unfold. It’s called Tooting Graveney Common (TGC).
“Tooting Bec Common and the smaller Tooting Graveney Common, which were once part of much larger medieval manors. The name Tooting Graveney originates from the De Gravenell family who were awarded the land in the wake of the Norman conquest of 1066. The manor of Tooting Bec was under the ownership of Tooting Bec Priory, associated with the Benedictine abbey of Bec in Normandy, in modern day France. “
https://www.tootingcommon.co.uk/history
TGC has been rewilded for something like 30 to 40 years, largely left to its own devices save for the 1 metre mowing by pavements etc.
For example, the BBC cries drought beyond belief and a quick look at the ‘device’ tells me it’s hyped up excrement of the bovine variety. And so it goes.
Boiling.
It’s clear to me that they really have prematurely ejaculated on the hyperbole front. This year could not have been much more different to last year. A cold, grey, wet summer with one or two hot days and a thunderstorm. What they needed was a repeat of 2022 and mother nature said: “on your bike“.
They say boiling…. so, if we agree that the max temp in 2023 was 32.6C then for water to boil the atmospheric pressure must be 0.055 atmospheres.
So what are the chances of that? The funny thing is they expect to be taken seriously.
Crappy spring and summer here on this side of The Pond, southern Ontario. The only place having some extra heat seems to be Antarctica – still well below freezing but enough to screw up the world ‘average’.
A door to door Jehovah Witnesses told me that ‘boiling oceans’ and NWS warning people of extreme heat days.
I laughed and said NWS warnings were jumping the shark fantasy as we hardly had any real heat waves in Virginia this past summer. Nor are any bodies of water even hot unless their in direct contact with magma.
Then I asked why they would believe what a government says when it’s obvious they lie about everything. That it’s government mission to frighten people into accepting more government.
Seriously, I stopped checking NWS for the week’s weather ever since I saw their ‘Extreme heat’ warning. That day reached 85°F, oh, so sweltering hot… 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Jehovah Witnesses? They stormed off looking for more compliant frightened people.
The BBC’s global warming hysteria is beyond belief. July was cold and wet – the heating came on in early August, granted there was late sunshine in September/October but on whole we had our usual crap hit and miss summer
It was another highly ranked warm summer joint 327/338 of 365 years in the mean CET, recent summers are odds on to be highly ranked.
Autumn so far is on another level of crazy warmest ‘ever’.
Last year was the warmest year in the entire 365 year mean CET, this year is beating it so far.
It’s ridiculous to try to claim that our weather isn’t unusually and consistently warm for recent history.
It’s even more ridiculous to suggest this means we are being boiled or in any danger.
Yet today, temperatures have dropped below freezing. It’s ridiculous to try to claim that our weather is unusually and consistently warm for recent history.
There. Fixed that for you.
From a pure scientific point of view, 365 years are only a insignificant fraction of the complete time span of concern. Due to that, it’s negligible, not to forget deliberately misleading.
Correct – in terms of earth history, 365 years is a grain of sand, on the worlds largest beach
Agreed
200 to 400 years ago was the depth of the Little Ice, from which we have mercifully recovered. We are in a warming period. good.
Notice average temp of 14 degrees C. This is well below the temp at which most of us carbon-abusing Yanks set our house thermostats.
Not quite boiling, is it?
I thought it was supposed to be global warming. In my neck of the woods it’s been very cool and rainy. I guess we’re aren’t part of the globe.
Only temperatures taken downtown or near runways are acceptable. Folks like us who live in the boonies don’t count.
I live on a mountain in the high desert near Reno, NV. We had two warm weeks in early July. Coolest and wettest summer we’ve seen in the seven years we’re lived here. Can’t call it climate change: Locals tell me every year holds new surprises!
having just come off a mini-ice age (ended about 1850) wouldn’t you expect a little warming
I’ve been told that since we don’t have reliable instrument records for anything prior to 70 years ago, the Little Ice Age and everything prior to it doesn’t count. They must be ignored.
Page 1 of Kerry’s climate alarmism for dummies
Of course warming is horrible. I mean, an earlier spring, a little longer Autumn, perhaps not as cold in the coldest parts of the world in Winter? How awful! /sarc
Exactly, we are interglacial, but when that ends, together with another grand solar minimum, the green idiots will be screaming for fossil fuels to warm their tofu
Shhh, reality isn’t allowed to be discussed by the Climate Scientists™ – please stick to the narrative or your solent green ration may get cut back.
Better mask up then! Ya never know. Also use ZERO energy please or S T F U!
No, reanalyse the historical data (the real data, not that fiddled with to try to make it appear alarmingly warm)
Warm in a 2.56 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation isn’t saying much. A recent study estimated that worldwide each year about 4.6 million people die from cold-related causes compared to around 500,000 dying from heat-related causes. Cold and cool weather causes the blood vessels to constrict to save heat and that causes blood pressure to rise causing more strokes and heart attacks in the cooler months compared to the warmer months.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(21)00081-4/fulltext
The warmies give up the game every time they employ ridiculous hyperbolic terminology such as “global boiling”, or when they change the name (“global warming” became “climate change”) such that the term can be applied no matter what happens, or doesn’t happen, with climate. The self-destroying logic known as “unfalsifiable”.
“The warmies give up the game…”
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Uhuh, except for the fact that they are winning big time.
Not “winning”——-succeeding in destroying our prosperity.
I don’t believe that they are winning. Virtually every opinion poll in the US puts “climate change” at the very bottom of every list of “top ten issues of concern” for voters.
Heck, I even read this week that Bill Gates, one of the biggest financial supporters of climate alarmism made numerous statements this month that the warmies are exaggerating and using dumb alarmist propaganda that only turns people off. He has not turned into a climate skeptic, but he agrees that the warmies just go way too far. He said the planet is not going to need saving, climate is an issue mostly for humans, and that technology and innovation are the way to deal with a warming climate.
When you lose Bill Gates – who puts his billions where his mouth is – you’re not doing well.
When are the warmies giving up oil, gas, coal and any derivatives of them? Only then will their hysterics seem slightly plausible
They also redefined “climate” so now it is only around 30 years instead of the thousands to millions of years people were taught in school. Now it is just medium-term weather which is always changing.
I’m not sure who’s been claiming England had a boiling summer. All I’ve heard on this site are people claiming it was the coldest in living memory.
In reality we had a very warm June followed by a pretty average July and August. Followed by a record breaking September. September was the warmest month if the year, which is very unusual.
“All I’ve heard on this site are people claiming it was the coldest in living memory.”
No, but you have heard people – myself included – saying what a real disappointment the summer was.
Why do you people always resort to ridiculous hyperbole? I’m sure a psychologist would find your case fascinating.
I’d say sarcastic exaggeration, rather than ridiculous hyperbole.
See this thread from when Paul was talking about this being a cold wet summer.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/08/05/is-our-cold-wet-uk-summer-due-to-global-warming/#comment-3761795
and
If you wish to quote me quote me. We had a warm June, but really cold July an August as a wrote. Three weeks ago my wife was walking on a Welsh beach in shorts and teeshirt. We walked on the same beac on Saturday an had all the woolies on. Weather.
You are funny
I wonder do you really believe that nonsense?
That second quote is mine and it is a factual statement of the conditions I experienced at that time and place. At no time did I exaggerate, imply it was a global or UK standard (I intentionally limited it to where I live and the month in question) or indulge in hyperbole. I stand by my statement of fact that it was the coldest July I’ve experienced in the time I’ve lived in this house.
Now, with that in mind, just what kind of stupid point are you trying to make?
So… you are accepting that 2/3 of summer was cold and wet.. Ok !
Not sure what makes you think that – apart from your childish argumentative style.
Of the 3 actual months of summer, 1/3 was well above average, and 2/3 were pretty much average. Of the 6 months of summer Homewood is using, 2 where well above average, one was somewhat above average, and the rest close ot average. (That’s my interpretation at any rate.)
Here’s the mean temperature for England compared to the 1981 – 2010 average.
As for rainfall, I’d say only July was very wet, almost twice the average amount of rain, 2 months were on the dry side, only 2/3 the average rainfall, and the rest close to average.
So, overall summer was far wetter than normal.
Ok thanks for the info. !
You really helping yourself to see reality !
Which 3 months are summer.. doesn’t matter
Sorry but 2/3s of summer was normal… ie cold and wet. !
End of story !!
So you are accepting that 2/3 of summer was not wet and cold. OK !
Idiot.
You can’t even read what I wrote.
You are a mental midget !
Just trying to use your own style back at you. If you keep making up stuff and claiming victory, don’t whine when someone does it to you.
Judging from your graph, thank you for confirming that July was below ‘normal’ – the range from 1981-2010, so not including all the recent “global boiling”.
The summer was rubbish. we had a brief warm spell in late September/early October and now its well below average for the time of year.
To be quite frank I’m more than happy that is marginally warmer than when I was growing up in the 1950s. But it’s still cold and miserable for half the year.
GFS model brings a rather sig snow/mix event to northern and central Germany-Poland and points east, next weekend.
Weather. As a meteorologist, this excites me to no end! (rolls eyes)
England had a cool, wet summer – confirmed & verified
But the climate alarmists think “less cool” and “boiling” are synonyms.
Record breaking huh? Why did CO2 decide to take its hoodie off for a month? Maybe natural variability, i.e., weather?
What’s COL2 got to do with it? Why not just accept it was hot in June and September and cooler in July and August.
If you want to know if it’s actually been getting warmer in recent years look at the trends, not individual records.
“What’s CO
L2 got to do with it?As you are well aware by now.. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
I didn’t have a particularly warm June in central England. It was noticeably dry, not warm. July then seemed to make up for it in rainfall.
I’m not sure about the statistics but on the whole this year in New England seems to me to have been wetter than average and we’ve had pleasant temperatures for the most part.
Only a few weeks with oppressively hot days, less than many years I recall. Early warmth in spring and lingering warmth in autumn has been nothing but beneficial. Consistent with a mild warming trend that might be all natural or might include the dividends paid on fossil fuel burning.
In short, past the tipping point, hair on fire, existential threat to all existence!!! (Shriek!)
I’m not sure where the idea of a six month summer started. The really warm global temperatures didn’t start until July. However, looking globally UAH still shows this April – September as warmest. Even beating the strong El Niño year of 1998.
CO2 was hibernating until July apparently and has since fallen by about 4 ppm. Its anti-correlation with temperature proves that correlation does not equal causation.
Who mentioned CO2?
“Its anti-correlation with temperature proves that correlation does not equal causation.“
Who mentioned 1979 to the present?
UAH did.
Here’s 1850 to present.
So you admit urban expansion is the cause of most the slight warming in the surface data.
Well done.
So you admit to molesting sheep.
Well done.
You just lost the argument.
Sorry about the comment. But it’s impossible to win an argument with someone who just asserts you’ve admitted something and then claims victory.
There was an argument?????
Poor bellboy has never seen a graph of urban expansion.
What a pointless little child. !
MODS!
I agree. I’d be happy if someone deleted that comment. It was out of order. I was just annoyed at constantly being accused of having admitted things I’d never said, but my sarcasm went way over the top.
Exactly – looks like temperatures weren’t paying attention to CO2 levels from 1900-1975-ish. Only once urban development exploded in the 1980s and on, throughout the whole world instead of just the west, did temps start rising.
1850 was just coming out of the Little Ice Age, so it was still cold. The Earth is still in a cold interglacial period that alternates with very cold glacial periods in a 2.56 million-year ice age.
Bellman, this spurs another curious question…
Why does your 1979 – Present chart have the CO2 420ppm terminated at the 0.25°C anomaly yet in your “Here’s 1850 to present” the 420+ppm CO2 it terminated at almost 0.9°C? Your charts appear to have scaling factors of CO2 simply to fulfill your need without any actual scaled correlation.
It is a childish attempt at propaganda.
Hadcrut is, of course, a mal-adjusted fabrication from URBAN/AIRPORT surface data.
Meaningless in a “global” sense over any time period.
Different base periods for a start. Also, most data sets show a faster rate of warming than UAH. The scale of the the CO2 to temperature is just the best fit for the data. I make no claims that it represents the actual climate sensitivity or proves causation.
It just demonstrates it’s wrong to say there is no correlation, let alone anticorrelation.
“ most data sets show a faster rate of warming than UAH.”
Of course it does.. it is contaminate by urban, airport and data manipulation.
Particularly, it is manipulated to try to match CO2 increases.
There is actually ZERO EVIDENCE of any warming by CO2 anywhere in any real data set.
It has never been measured or observed anywhere on the planet.
So, what should be done in order to control the weather and climate? Mask up?
Reduce human outputs if greenhouse gases and increase CO2 sinks.
Still continuing with the utter stupidity of thinking that will make the slightest difference.
You really are a nutter living in a anti-science fantasy land. !
Oh look who has arrived. It is the juvenile putdown prince.
Hi loser. !
Perhaps you would like to try producing evidence that destroying western civilisation by ceasing the use of CO2 providing energy sources, will make the climate “nice” again…
… you know, like it used to be during the LIA. !
About 4.6 million people die each year from cold-related causes compared to 500,000 dying from heat-related causes each year.
‘Global, regional and national burden of mortality associated with nonoptimal ambient temperatures from 2000 to 2019: a three-stage modelling study’
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-
5196(21)00081-4/fulltext
Is there any particular reason why you want more people to die from the weather/
“more people to die from the weather”
With electricity and heating costs increasing rapidly in the UK, even a normal English winter is going to cause problems for a lot of people.
If they get a cold, low-wind winter, it is likely those deaths from cold will be significant.
This, it seems, is exactly what people like Bellboy, FN, Slimon want to see.
Increase CO2 sinks (aka plants, greenery) and don’t worry about additional input. The Biosphere evolved to LOVE CO2 over 3.5bn years AND give us oxygen in return so we can give it even MORE CO2
Good point – the biosphere sucks up more than its share of CO2 every year from about May to October, driving down CO2 levels about 3/4 of the winter increase in levels. And it’s been almost keeping up with emissions even though they have dramatically increased throughout the world. If CO2, temperatures and other plant/plankton growth friendly factors continue to increase – meaning that the growth season is getting longer – and population growth tapers off with increasing prosperity – then eventually the biosphere will catch up with our CO2 emissions and probably find an equilibrium level.
Bellman…A curious question…if you know the answer.
What happens when you take your purposefully scaled 1979-Now chart with temp anomalies overlaid with CO2 concentration and append it to the historic CO2 vs Temp chart going back 800,000 years through the glaciation cycles at THEIR scaling factor?
Hint…
Your charts scaling factor would make the historic CO2 levels look like a barely distinguishable sine wave vs the large fluctuations in temperatures
This chart is always a good indication of the correlation between temperature and CO2. 😉
Scary how low atmospheric CO2 got !
You are looking at a change in CO2 of about 10% at most. That might be expected to have an effect on global temperatures of around 0.2 – 0.5°C depending on the actual climate sensitivity. Other factors have a much bigger effect over these time periods, e.g. Milankovitch cycles.
Yawn !
Now you are admitting there is NO CORRELATION.
Poor muppet !!
And that CO2 is a tiny bit play at the very most.
You have just destroyed the whole AGW farcical meme. Well done! 🙂
What’s missing from bnice’s graphic (GISP data truncates at around 1950) is the rise of CO2 from 300ppm in 1950 to today’s 424ppm. That 124ppm is a 41% increase from 1950 levels
Along with the rise in temperature since 1850.
You mean since the COLDEST period in 10,000 years ?
All cheer and say THANK GOODNESS !!
May there be more of it, take us a little bit closer to the Holocene norm.
But not at the same scale. Extending the right vertical axis to 424ppm at the scale (roughly 6 times from 20ppm to 120ppm) of the graph would extend the left side temperature anomaly 6 times from (2.5°C – 5.5°C roughly 3°C) to 18°C. Scaled and unrealistic
Firstly the temperature estimates in that graph are dubious at best. It’s only showing temperatures for Greenland and is based on proxy data. Secondly, as I said, there are other reasons why temperature was warmer 6000 years ago that have nothing to do with CO2.
A whole lot of accepted Climate Science is based on Proxy Dust.
If Greenland was 3°C warmer than today then, every place else was also warmer, otherwise Greenland wouldn’t be cooler now in a warmer world.
The only missing temperature rise is from 1940 on…about 0.5°C. Which at that scale would top off at the 270ppm CO2 level of the charts right hand side.
Thanks for the weather report.
Is that you Dale? We are not buying your silly wind farms, sorry, we need secure, reliable, affordable power
And isn’t it funny how far that peak in 1998 fell afterwards.
Almost as if it was a temporally hot period caused by a massive El Niño. Just the sort of place to start a pause from.
El Nino, just the place to get warming from.
Glad you have finally figured out that it is ONLY EL NINO causing the slight steps in highly beneficial warming.
That means you KNOW that there is absolutely NO HUMAN CO2 CAUSATION.
You missed Jim’s point, which is that temperatures fell a long way immediately after the El Niño spike.
But keep on putting words into my mouth. It’s obviously the only way you can win an argument.
“which is that temperatures fell a long way immediately after the El Niño spike.”
You noticed.
Your words..
So you agree the El Nino causes the warming…
and NOT CO2.
Thanks again.
“Almost as if it was a temporally hot period caused by a massive El Niño”
That should have been “temporary” not “temporally”.
So you agree that El Ninos cause the warming.
Well done !
So you admit to making stuff up in order to claim some sort of victory.
Well done!
You are the one that said El Ninos give a warming spike.
Victory is finally getting you to admit what is real, and what is in your tiny fevered imagination.
When have I ever said El Niños do not give a warming spike?
Your pathetic attempts at cheap point scoring blind you to any actual argument. El Niños cause a temporary spike, thet do not cause long term warming.
“The really warm global temperatures “
How about you stop the idiotic panic-stricken comments.
It has been far warmer for most of the last 10,000 years.
Rural weather stations are better than UAH which just measures the top millimeter or so.
?? UAH is a satellite measurement taken from several kilometres up in the atmosphere.
“I’m not sure where the idea of a six month summer started.”
I’m not sure either but it is quite common, especially in the context of the very long term, when what is meant is the warm half of the year.
The Northern hemisphere summer is also often said to last from ~March 21st to ~September 21st, i.e. the equinoxes.
Omigod the ice age is upon us!
Surprise snow falls on NSW towns while fire threat escalates in state’s north (msn.com)
You read it here first on WUWT.
Certainly a step back towards winter temperature overnight, but the forecast shows it gradually warming back up over the next week to more normal temperatures for this time of year.
The Earth is still in a 2.56 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation, in an interglacial period named the Holocene. The ice age won’t end until all the natural ice on Earth melts.
The northern hemisphere is where the snowfall action will be in the next few months. High atmospheric water in September guarantees new snow records this year.
Kashmir is already getting a fair dump:
http://tehelka.com/fresh-snowfall-hits-kashmirs-higher-reaches-temperature-drops/
Coldest July an August I can remember. A few warm days in June and October although we had frost in the garden this morning. Typical Miserable English summer
The thing I don’t understand is, how does fossil fuel CO2 emissions – which are ever increasing – make some years warmer, some years cooler, some years wetter, some years drier?
Odd that, since global warming is ‘ever upward’ and climate changes linearly in a predictable way.
Anyone know ‘the science’ behind CO2’s rather eccentric behaviour?
At most the effect of CO2 on temperature is minor compared to natural contributors. Bellman above showed a positive correlation of CO2 concentration to temperature rise from ~1979 to present to apparently counter the fact of a negative correlation that I drew attention to.
Like your question, one might ask next about its negative correlation from about 1940 to 1978, or on longer timescales the numerous negative, positive and zero correlations that are observed. There are inconvenient facts that go against the CO2 warming narrative. In real science, these would be addressed. In Michael Mann’s world view, they are hidden, discredited or ignored.
We are in Atmospheric CO2 deficit – plants need 800-1300ppm for optimum growth – our current 418ppm is too low – at 200ppm, plants die, so does life dependent upon them – get burning as much gas & coal as you can and save the planet from global starvation & asphyxia
Even 1300ppm is on the low side truth be told.
Interesting post at NTZ
Biology Professor: 4000 ppm CO2 “Drastically Promotes Growth Of Representative Land Plants” (notrickszone.com)
(note, Pierre seems to have made a mistake.. 4% CO2 is 40,000 ppm , not 4000ppm.)
I thought it was a cool, if not cold, summer, Took a long time to warm up so that the heating could be turned off and now in early Autum we are switching the heating on again.
Our summer was warmer than average, but far short of the warmest ever.
That’s why millions of Brits fly south for holidays, to get some nice warm, healthy vit D
Looks a lot like natural variance from year to year, decade to decade and century to century. Wake me when we bomb China and India and any third world country trying to get ahead. Because right now, it also looks a lot like self-flagellation and nothing I say or do can stop it.
Apparently, there was not enough boiling here either….
story tip
UK’s nuclear fusion site ends experiments after 40 years – BBC News
it’s the winter that people need to worry about
Especially as we enter another glacial, grand solar minimum era
Now is the winter of our discontent Made glorious summer by this sun of September; And all the clouds that lour’d upon our climate In the hallowed models of the Mann buried…
Boy those charts look devasting. We better tear down all industry. SIGNED…most LEFTIST Dimocrats in the USA.
I can verify and confirm there was no global boiling in England, nor anywhere else in the world actually – Englands summer was a rather cool, wet affair
I can also confirm the UN is run by bed wetting plums who are successfully keeping Monty Python style comedy alive and well
Yep – a decent June & a few warm days in early September but pretty non-descript July & August.
Where did they measure the boiling oceans ? 😀
At the hight of 20,000m water is boiling at 32,92°C
Some “scientists” and “journalist” may believe to live in that hight above all others.
In a pan on the stove, they then claim it is a ‘representative experiment’ and build expensive models around the ‘data’. Y’know – same thing they did with CO2.
Those aren’t simple models, those are.Climate Super Models…but don’t take my word for it, their photos pepper the Daily Mail
The UN boss saw the reading of 100 degrees in a shallow lake in Florida near a power plant outlet.
That was enough to persuade him. 😉
Talk about a dim bulb !! 🙂
I just had to have a hash-hash-rehash of what my flock of 7 Wundergrounds had to say.
These are the rankings, out of the last 20 years, for each of the months of Apr thro Sep for 2023. The stations cover almost exactly what is referred to as Central England.
4 of my stations would count as being = Western England and 3 of them Eastern England and I expected the west ones to be running cooler (their trend is down, eastern ones are up) as they always do but including or not including them made little difference.
Taking an average of all averages there, I get that the (supposed ##) summer here ranked, out of the previous 20 summers =
Number Nine out of Twenty
## Isn’t summer always taken to be June, July and August but no real matter as long as we all compare the same thing
Not that dissimilar to CET.
Apr = 15th out of 20
May = 7th out of 20
Jun = 1st out of 20
Jul = 14th out of 20
Aug = 10th out of 20
Sep = 1st out of 20
though I’m surprised your stations only put June as 2nd, given the CET was 0.9°C warmer than 2018. September would be less surprising as it was only beat the record by 0.1°C.
But taking the average I still get the CET as 4th out of 20.
For the official MO figures for England, I get
Apr = 14th out of 20
May = 6th out of 20
Jun = 1st out of 20
Jul = 13th out of 20
Aug = 10th out of 20
Sep = 1st out of 20
You shouldn’t be surprised. Any temperature difference of 0.5° or smaller will be within instrument error range anyway.
Do we all get to pick our own sub-set of stations?
This seems to be a clumsy attempt by Homewood to deflect from the fact that CET just had its warmest September since the record started in 1659.
So instead of simply acknowledging that, let’s combine it with the previous 5 months in a blatent attempt to bury it.
It gets more and more pathetic with every passing post, guys.
“It gets more and more pathetic “
Yes you do.. .. going in hyperventilated PANIC over one warm month.
Hilariously PATHETIC.
Just try and imagine how much warmer it must have been when trees grew where now there are glaciers…
How would your little mind have survived !
And it is still not certain where Hannibal crossed the Alps. Romain remains are still being revealed by retreating ice.
I was in London for a while whilst they were bleating about “boiling”, my wife was wearing a light cardigan all through our stay. I think it was 24C during the day.
The month of June was warm, but the rest of the summer here was wet and cool.