I have found, I can bring to a screeching halt almost anyone nattering about building more unreliables renewables. I just say, “If it was a good idea that made economic sense, they would use renewables to build renewables.” End of discussion.
A climate scientist on how to recognize the new climate change denial
Delay, deflect, downplay, and other ways fossil fuel companies block climate action.
By Avishay Artsy Sep 22, 2023, 5:25pm EDT
“After a summer of extreme weather, Vox’s daily news podcast Today, Explained is tackling Climate Week with some help from a scientist — one who’s been at the center of climate science since before it was cool, and has some ideas on how we can keep the planet from getting too hot.
Michael Mann is a professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of the new book Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth’s Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis. Mann is perhaps best known for the “hockey stick curve” in a 1998 paper he co-published about the planet’s rapidly rising temperature after a mostly steady millennium.
Mann spoke with Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram about his experience fighting climate denialism, and the new tactics that have emerged from the fossil fuel industry and the groups it supports.”
“author of the new book Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth’s Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis”
I love this title! It’s so ironic. If Mann actually looked at the past written temperature record he would know there is no unprecedented warming today and therefore CO2 is not a problem.
But Mann is not talking about that past. He is talking about the fake temperature profile past he made up out of tree rings, that distorts the current situation with the Earth’s atmosphere.
Mann wants all of us to think we are living in the hottest times ever, becaus of CO2, but if he studies the real past, he will see that this is not the case. Mann won’t look because it puts the lie to his “life’s work”, but others can look and know the truth, which is that it is no warmer today than in the recent past, even though there is more CO2 in the air than in the past.
Mann doesn’t want you to know that so he made up a bogus, bastardized “hotter and hotter” Hockey Stick chart to hide those facts and make it appear we are living in the hottest time in human history. It’s all a Big Lie, and the historical, written temperature records prove it.
There is no unprecedented warming today. There is no CO2 problem today. There is no climate crisis. Not going by history. Nothing unprecedented to see here.
ethical voter
September 24, 2023 1:48 pm
I am not a scientist so I may be barking up the wrong tree. It occurs to me that the sane few should be making more ado about carbon dioxide being the source of the oxygen we breathe. Via photosynthesis of course.
Opinion: Yes, there was global warming in prehistoric times. But nothing in millions of years compares with what we see today
““The climate is always changing!” So goes a popular refrain from climate deniers who continue to claim that there’s nothing special about this particular moment. There is no climate crisis, they say, because the Earth has survived dramatic warming before.”
Is the Earth experiencing dramatic warming today? No, the Earth is not experiencing unusual warming going by the historic, written temperature record.
So the question should not be if the Earth has survived past dramatic warmings, the question should be is the Earth experiencing dramatic warming today.
All the climate alarmists assume that the Earth is unprecedentedly hot, and this guides their every thought. They are all working on a false assumption.
Human-caused Climate Change has no solid foundation. It’s all speculation and assumptions.
And we can trace the “hotter and hotter” assumptions of all these people right back to Michael Mann and a few other Temperature Data Mannipulators who have bastardized the global temperature record to make it appear that humans are experiencing unprecedented warming today. Their lies have carried clear across the globe and are causing the wasting of TRILLIONS of dollars trying to fix a temperature problem that doesn’t exist anywhere other than in the bastardized global temperature record computers and the minds of the uninformed.
Human-caused Climate Change is the biggest science scam in human history.
‘Climate villain’: scientists say Rupert Murdoch wielded his media empire to sow confusion and doubt
“Scientists have described the media tycoon Rupert Murdoch as a “climate villain” who has used his television and newspaper empire to promote climate science denial and delay action.
Murdoch’s outlets, including Fox News, the Wall Street Journal and The Australian, have long been known to promote doubts about the cause and consequences of the climate crisis. Scientists said this had caused lasting damage.”
I’m not advocating anything in those posts, I’m just giving examples of the news articles I see every day on the internet about human-caused climate change. I assume that’s why I got the downvotes, since I didn’t make a comment.
Flowers have started to grow in Antarctica – that is not good news
“Newly budding flowers are usually a welcome hint of life – but in Antarctica, it is an alarming sign of global warming.
There are just two species of flowering plant native to the Antarctic peninsula, and they are now growing at unprecedented rates, according to a new study, as temperatures rise and ice begins to melt.
Antarctic hair grass grew as much in 2009-2019 as it had in the previous 50 years, while Antarctic pearlwort has seen the speed of growth increase fivefold over the same period.
A team led by Nicoletta Cannone, a researcher from the University of Insubria, Italy, measured the growth of Antarctica’s two native plants at sites on Signy Island in the South Orkney Islands.
The results were stark: the sites have not only seen faster growth, but they have become more densely populated by the plants each year as the climate has got warmer.
According to nonprofit Discovering Antarctica, the region’s temperatures have warmed by an average of 3°C as a result of human-induced climate change, meaning that once stable ice shelves are now retreating.
In some parts, that has given way to land which is now habitable to the two plant species.”
The Gulf Stream Is Weaker Now Than It Has Been For Over A Millennium
It spells bad news for many places.
“If the AMOC stops Europe will freeze, a process sped up 1000-fold, that formed the basis for the disaster film The Day After Tomorrow. Meanwhile, the pile-up of water that currently gets carried north will accelerate sea-level rise along the American east coast, hastening Florida’s drowning.
Rahmstorf’s findings come concurrently with the publication of modeling that shows the rate of change of freshwater entering the North Atlantic could do as much to turn AMOC off as the volume.”
25 Billion Times The Energy of a Nuclear Bomb Trapped by Global Warming Since 1971
03 May 2023 By The Conversation
“Since the 18th century, humans have been taking fossil fuels out of their safe storage deep underground and burning them to generate electricity or power machinery.
We’ve now converted coal, oil, and gas into more than two trillion metric tons of heat-trapping carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases and added them to the atmosphere.
The current result? The average temperature at the planet’s surface is about 1.2°C (2.16°F) hotter than in the pre-industrial era
That’s because adding new carbon to the world’s natural carbon cycle has caused an imbalance in the amount of energy entering and leaving the Earth system.
To warm the entire planet takes an extraordinary amount of extra energy. Recent research shows we’ve added the energy of 25 billion nuclear bombs to the Earth system in just the last 50 years.”
Those excerpts are all from the news feed I’m currently looking at. It’s just one climate change horror story after another. I could post this many and more every day, if I were so inclined.
The Human-caused Climate Change Propaganda Mill is working overtime to demonized CO2 and scare the people.
Biden-Harris Administration announces historic $82 million for endangered North Atlantic right whales as part of Investing in America agenda September 18, 2023 Today, the Department of Commerce and NOAA announced next steps to conserve and recover endangered North Atlantic right whales with $82 million in funding from the Inflation Reduction Act — the largest climate and conservation investment in history. This announcement comes during Climate Week and is part of the $2.6 billion framework to invest in coastal resilience that NOAA announced earlier this year. North Atlantic right whales are approaching extinction with fewer than 350 individuals remaining, including fewer than 70 reproductively active females. Today’s funding provides an unprecedented opportunity to address the primary threats to the species — entanglements in fishing gear and vessel strikes — with new technologies and approaches.
Lessons on How to Think Clearly (Stoicism by Marcus Aurelius)
“Since ancient times, philosophers and thinkers have recognized the immense power of our thoughts in shaping our lives. As the Greek philosopher Epictetus stated, “Men are disturbed not by things, but by the views which they take of them.” How we perceive and judge events, more than the events themselves, determines our happiness. With so much beyond our control, we must take responsibility for our minds if we hope to find serenity.
Marcus Aurelius, the philosopher-king who ruled the Roman Empire in the 2nd century AD, provided one of the most outstanding guides to mastering our thoughts. His collection of personal notes and meditations, known as Meditations, records the Stoic techniques he applied to strengthen his mind amidst the daily stresses of leading an empire at war. Marcus Aurelius’ profound reflections on how to gain mental clarity remain highly relevant today.”
end excerpt
Julian Flood
September 25, 2023 12:44 am
Well praise the Lord! After months of failure I have logged on!
On the blog TCW Defending Freedom I have a post seeking help to find out if oil, surfactant and sewage/farming run-off is causing smoothing of the surface of the world’s seas. My guess is that some sea surface warming is caused by pollution. Ruf and Evans looked at microplastic warming in the ocean gyres but failed to find any.
.
A little oil on water spreads enormously, see Benjamin Franklin and Lord Franklin’s experiments. It might be possible to quantify the magnitude of that warming by records from the North Atlantic during the 1940 – 1946 Battle of the Atlantic.
Is Anthropogenic Pollution Warming (APW) significant? I don’t know and no-one seems interested in finding out.
There’s an image of a fractured smooth covering tens of thousands of square miles on TCW Defending Freedom.
In a major U-turn, climate alarmist Gates backtracked and confessed that “global warming” does not have apocalyptic consequences.
Gates reportedly told a group of his fellow globalist green agenda advocates that the “climate doom” narrative has now become so exaggerated that the public now sees right through the charade.
The admission from Gates is a major shift for the billionaire who has been a leading proponent of the “climate emergency” narrative.
Climate extremes likely to drive land mammal extinction during next supercontinent assembly
Mammals have dominated Earth for approximately 55 Myr thanks to their adaptations and resilience to warming and cooling during the Cenozoic. All life will eventually perish in a runaway greenhouse once absorbed solar radiation exceeds the emission of thermal radiation in several billions of years. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-023-01259-3
https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/09/22/ev-battery-factory-will-require-so-much-energy-it-needs-a-coal-plant-to-power-it/
EV Battery Factory Will Require So Much Energy It Needs A Coal Plant To Power It
I have found, I can bring to a screeching halt almost anyone nattering about building more
unreliablesrenewables. I just say, “If it was a good idea that made economic sense, they would use renewables to build renewables.” End of discussion.https://fortune.com/2023/09/22/bill-gates-climate-change-planting-trees-complete-nonsense-oil-gas/
Bill Gates gets real about climate change: Planting trees is ‘complete nonsense’ but the end of the oil and gas era is finally in sight
https://www.vox.com/climate/23885799/climate-change-denial-fossil-fuel-companies-exxon-mobil
A climate scientist on how to recognize the new climate change denial
Delay, deflect, downplay, and other ways fossil fuel companies block climate action.
By Avishay Artsy Sep 22, 2023, 5:25pm EDT
“After a summer of extreme weather, Vox’s daily news podcast Today, Explained is tackling Climate Week with some help from a scientist — one who’s been at the center of climate science since before it was cool, and has some ideas on how we can keep the planet from getting too hot.
Michael Mann is a professor at the University of Pennsylvania and author of the new book Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth’s Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis. Mann is perhaps best known for the “hockey stick curve” in a 1998 paper he co-published about the planet’s rapidly rising temperature after a mostly steady millennium.
Mann spoke with Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram about his experience fighting climate denialism, and the new tactics that have emerged from the fossil fuel industry and the groups it supports.”
end excerpt
news tip
“author of the new book Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth’s Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis”
I love this title! It’s so ironic. If Mann actually looked at the past written temperature record he would know there is no unprecedented warming today and therefore CO2 is not a problem.
But Mann is not talking about that past. He is talking about the fake temperature profile past he made up out of tree rings, that distorts the current situation with the Earth’s atmosphere.
Mann wants all of us to think we are living in the hottest times ever, becaus of CO2, but if he studies the real past, he will see that this is not the case. Mann won’t look because it puts the lie to his “life’s work”, but others can look and know the truth, which is that it is no warmer today than in the recent past, even though there is more CO2 in the air than in the past.
Mann doesn’t want you to know that so he made up a bogus, bastardized “hotter and hotter” Hockey Stick chart to hide those facts and make it appear we are living in the hottest time in human history. It’s all a Big Lie, and the historical, written temperature records prove it.
There is no unprecedented warming today. There is no CO2 problem today. There is no climate crisis. Not going by history. Nothing unprecedented to see here.
I am not a scientist so I may be barking up the wrong tree. It occurs to me that the sane few should be making more ado about carbon dioxide being the source of the oxygen we breathe. Via photosynthesis of course.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-09-24/climate-change-fossil-fuels-global-warming-rate
Opinion: Yes, there was global warming in prehistoric times. But nothing in millions of years compares with what we see today
““The climate is always changing!” So goes a popular refrain from climate deniers who continue to claim that there’s nothing special about this particular moment. There is no climate crisis, they say, because the Earth has survived dramatic warming before.”
end excerpt
The Earth has survived dramatic warming before.
Is the Earth experiencing dramatic warming today? No, the Earth is not experiencing unusual warming going by the historic, written temperature record.
So the question should not be if the Earth has survived past dramatic warmings, the question should be is the Earth experiencing dramatic warming today.
All the climate alarmists assume that the Earth is unprecedentedly hot, and this guides their every thought. They are all working on a false assumption.
Human-caused Climate Change has no solid foundation. It’s all speculation and assumptions.
And we can trace the “hotter and hotter” assumptions of all these people right back to Michael Mann and a few other Temperature Data Mannipulators who have bastardized the global temperature record to make it appear that humans are experiencing unprecedented warming today. Their lies have carried clear across the globe and are causing the wasting of TRILLIONS of dollars trying to fix a temperature problem that doesn’t exist anywhere other than in the bastardized global temperature record computers and the minds of the uninformed.
Human-caused Climate Change is the biggest science scam in human history.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/sep/23/rupert-murdoch-climate-change-denial
‘Climate villain’: scientists say Rupert Murdoch wielded his media empire to sow confusion and doubt
“Scientists have described the media tycoon Rupert Murdoch as a “climate villain” who has used his television and newspaper empire to promote climate science denial and delay action.
Murdoch’s outlets, including Fox News, the Wall Street Journal and The Australian, have long been known to promote doubts about the cause and consequences of the climate crisis. Scientists said this had caused lasting damage.”
end excerpt
I’m not advocating anything in those posts, I’m just giving examples of the news articles I see every day on the internet about human-caused climate change. I assume that’s why I got the downvotes, since I didn’t make a comment.
Like water off a duck’s back.
https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/flowers-antarctic-climate-change
Flowers have started to grow in Antarctica – that is not good news
“Newly budding flowers are usually a welcome hint of life – but in Antarctica, it is an alarming sign of global warming.
There are just two species of flowering plant native to the Antarctic peninsula, and they are now growing at unprecedented rates, according to a new study, as temperatures rise and ice begins to melt.
Antarctic hair grass grew as much in 2009-2019 as it had in the previous 50 years, while Antarctic pearlwort has seen the speed of growth increase fivefold over the same period.
A team led by Nicoletta Cannone, a researcher from the University of Insubria, Italy, measured the growth of Antarctica’s two native plants at sites on Signy Island in the South Orkney Islands.
The results were stark: the sites have not only seen faster growth, but they have become more densely populated by the plants each year as the climate has got warmer.
According to nonprofit Discovering Antarctica, the region’s temperatures have warmed by an average of 3°C as a result of human-induced climate change, meaning that once stable ice shelves are now retreating.
In some parts, that has given way to land which is now habitable to the two plant species.”
end excerpt
A partial RECOVERY from freezing debilitating times that did not allow for growth.
The clue.. it is NATIVE to Antarctica. 🙂
https://www.iflscience.com/the-gulf-stream-is-weaker-now-than-it-has-been-for-over-a-millennium-70830
The Gulf Stream Is Weaker Now Than It Has Been For Over A Millennium
It spells bad news for many places.
“If the AMOC stops Europe will freeze, a process sped up 1000-fold, that formed the basis for the disaster film The Day After Tomorrow. Meanwhile, the pile-up of water that currently gets carried north will accelerate sea-level rise along the American east coast, hastening Florida’s drowning.
Rahmstorf’s findings come concurrently with the publication of modeling that shows the rate of change of freshwater entering the North Atlantic could do as much to turn AMOC off as the volume.”
end excerpt
Has anyone ever measured the AMOC? Didn’t NASA’s attempt to measure it with floats fail badly?
https://www.sciencealert.com/25-billion-times-the-energy-of-a-nuclear-bomb-trapped-by-global-warming-since-1971
25 Billion Times The Energy of a Nuclear Bomb Trapped by Global Warming Since 1971
03 May 2023 By The Conversation
“Since the 18th century, humans have been taking fossil fuels out of their safe storage deep underground and burning them to generate electricity or power machinery.
We’ve now converted coal, oil, and gas into more than two trillion metric tons of heat-trapping carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases and added them to the atmosphere.
The current result? The average temperature at the planet’s surface is about 1.2°C (2.16°F) hotter than in the pre-industrial era
That’s because adding new carbon to the world’s natural carbon cycle has caused an imbalance in the amount of energy entering and leaving the Earth system.
To warm the entire planet takes an extraordinary amount of extra energy. Recent research shows we’ve added the energy of 25 billion nuclear bombs to the Earth system in just the last 50 years.”
end excerpt
Those excerpts are all from the news feed I’m currently looking at. It’s just one climate change horror story after another. I could post this many and more every day, if I were so inclined.
The Human-caused Climate Change Propaganda Mill is working overtime to demonized CO2 and scare the people.
It reminds me of that movie: “The Man Who Knew Too Little.” The title describes the climate change propaganda community to a tee.
Story Tip
Biden-Harris Administration announces historic $82 million for endangered North Atlantic right whales as part of Investing in America agenda
September 18, 2023
Today, the Department of Commerce and NOAA announced next steps to conserve and recover endangered North Atlantic right whales with $82 million in funding from the Inflation Reduction Act — the largest climate and conservation investment in history. This announcement comes during Climate Week and is part of the $2.6 billion framework to invest in coastal resilience that NOAA announced earlier this year. North Atlantic right whales are approaching extinction with fewer than 350 individuals remaining, including fewer than 70 reproductively active females. Today’s funding provides an unprecedented opportunity to address the primary threats to the species — entanglements in fishing gear and vessel strikes — with new technologies and approaches.
https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/historic-82-million-for-critically-endangered-North-Atlantic-right-whales
Trump says Biden is killing the whales with his windmills.
https://www.newtraderu.com/2023/09/23/lessons-on-how-to-think-clearly-stoicism-by-marcus-aurelius/
Lessons on How to Think Clearly (Stoicism by Marcus Aurelius)
“Since ancient times, philosophers and thinkers have recognized the immense power of our thoughts in shaping our lives. As the Greek philosopher Epictetus stated, “Men are disturbed not by things, but by the views which they take of them.” How we perceive and judge events, more than the events themselves, determines our happiness. With so much beyond our control, we must take responsibility for our minds if we hope to find serenity.
Marcus Aurelius, the philosopher-king who ruled the Roman Empire in the 2nd century AD, provided one of the most outstanding guides to mastering our thoughts. His collection of personal notes and meditations, known as Meditations, records the Stoic techniques he applied to strengthen his mind amidst the daily stresses of leading an empire at war. Marcus Aurelius’ profound reflections on how to gain mental clarity remain highly relevant today.”
end excerpt
Well praise the Lord! After months of failure I have logged on!
On the blog TCW Defending Freedom I have a post seeking help to find out if oil, surfactant and sewage/farming run-off is causing smoothing of the surface of the world’s seas. My guess is that some sea surface warming is caused by pollution. Ruf and Evans looked at microplastic warming in the ocean gyres but failed to find any.
.
A little oil on water spreads enormously, see Benjamin Franklin and Lord Franklin’s experiments. It might be possible to quantify the magnitude of that warming by records from the North Atlantic during the 1940 – 1946 Battle of the Atlantic.
Is Anthropogenic Pollution Warming (APW) significant? I don’t know and no-one seems interested in finding out.
There’s an image of a fractured smooth covering tens of thousands of square miles on TCW Defending Freedom.
JF
In a major U-turn, climate alarmist Gates backtracked and confessed that “global warming” does not have apocalyptic consequences.
Gates reportedly told a group of his fellow globalist green agenda advocates that the “climate doom” narrative has now become so exaggerated that the public now sees right through the charade.
The admission from Gates is a major shift for the billionaire who has been a leading proponent of the “climate emergency” narrative.
https://slaynews.com/news/bill-gates-admits-climate-crisis-narrative-hoax/
Story tip!
Human extinction… GHG emissions, tipping points, and models.
– – – – – – – – –
Scientists reveal the date Earth will face a mass EXTINCTION that wipes out all humans
Study suggests we would go extinct even if we stopped burning fossil fuels now
‘Supercontinent’ Pangea Ultima is expected to form in the next 250 million years
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12558113/Scientists-reveal-date-Earth-face-mass-EXTINCTION-wipes-humans.html
Climate extremes likely to drive land mammal extinction during next supercontinent assembly
Mammals have dominated Earth for approximately 55 Myr thanks to their adaptations and resilience to warming and cooling during the Cenozoic. All life will eventually perish in a runaway greenhouse once absorbed solar radiation exceeds the emission of thermal radiation in several billions of years.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-023-01259-3
The creatures of Earth will just have to find themselves a new home away from the Earth sometime in the future.
We are working on that now.