The attached plot shows the July values since the beginning of the series in 1979, with a smoothed curve in bold black. Smoothed curves for all the other months are also shown. Lowess smoothing, f=0.3.
Ben Vorlich
August 8, 2023 3:27 am
According to BFMTV, a French rolling news channel, the sea temperature at La Ciotat in South of France on the Mediterranean on Sunday was 13.5°C about 64°F. gone down from 29°C earlier in the summer. Caused by an upwelling of cold water because of a strong Mistral. The air temperature today is mid to high 20s Nothing on the BBC though
Here in south-east Arizona – just had our first decent thunder storm. This mornings ‘high’ was 95°F outside, 82°F indoors. The storm hit at 1515, with some small hail. Current outside temperature: 65°F. Still have a shirt-sleeve 74°F inside.
Analysis: Yuan loses core support as firms leave China
By Samuel Shen and Tom Westbrook
August 7, 202311:29 PM UTC”
I don’t think the Yuan is going to replace the Dollar anytime soon.
I think China has a lot of economic problems right now.
Once Crooked Joe Biden is out of office, replaced by a non-Democrat president, based in reality, the U.S. economy will pick up and lead the world again, and leave China in the dust.
“Nigel Farage has warned banks are trying to “force a cashless society” on Britons. It comes as banking giant NatWest prepares to impose a policy that could see restrictions on the amount of cash customers can withdraw and deposit from next month. In a leaflet to current account holders, it said the new policy is “giving us the right to set limits on inbound and outbound payments”.
How did it come about in societies obsessed with “freedom” that it’s mandatory to deal with banks? There are now businesses that require even in-person payments to be made by credit card. Why should a person be obligated to accept a check for wages or the purchase of an item? Checks are not money.
In the US bills still say, “This note is legal tender for all debts public and private”.
It might make an interesting class action suit if a company refused to accept cash.
Costs – banks love the idea of going completely digital and a cashless society for the simple reason that they can eliminate cash machines and physical premises; it’ll cut their costs right down and maximise profits. What they are telling everyone is that it will be more ‘efficient’ and ‘secure’ and enable them to offer more services for their customers. It is a massive con job by the banks purely for their own benefit.
Solar Surprise: Scientists Discover Unprecedented High-Energy Light Coming From the Sun
By Matt Davenport, Michigan State University August 7, 2023
“The sun is more surprising than we knew,” said Mehr Un Nisa, a postdoctoral research associate at Michigan State University. “We thought we had this star figured out, but that’s not the case.”
How would increased gamma rays hitting the Earth affect the Earth’s weather?
“How would increased gamma rays hitting the Earth affect the Earth’s weather?”
I think it would depend on a lot of different factors, Tom, because Earth’s weather-system is so amazingly complex.
However, I think their effects on the biosphere could be more significant for us since they would probably cause faster genetic mutation-rates across the whole spectrum of terrestrial organisms, including our own species homo sapiens. Although the specific long-term consequences of that would be unpredictable from our present state of incomplete knowledge and understanding of the biosphere it seems likely to me that, given enough time, the current human species could give rise to a variety of novel offshoot-species. But whether or not these offshoots would be more advanced than our current human species (in evolutionary terms) remains an open question to my mind.
“it seems likely to me that, given enough time, the current human species could give rise to a variety of novel offshoot-species.”
I would have to agree. Now we have to figure out if that is good or bad, or inevitable.
MIke McHenry
August 8, 2023 5:40 am
CO2 emissions from fossil fuels have increased tremendously the last couple of decades. Yet the Mauna Loa graph is still pretty linear. Any thoughts on that?
Well obviously, human emissions are therefore only a minute part of rising CO2 levels as measured by MO. So AGW is very small in comparison with water vapour effects that moderate global climate. The newly discovered gamma rays show us that solar atmospheric effects are more important than previously admittee by the IPCC etc, and they need a rethink about the whole AGW business.
In 2020 the World just about ‘closed-down’ due to Covid, YET the curve did not deviate on its upward trajectory one little bit, even though ‘mankind’ had exited the CO2 bus and left only Mother Nature to do her thing. Uhmm!
Since finding the temperature.global site I have frequently visited it and the global temperature has been between 14.13 and 14.16C.
Why are climatologists saying the average global temperature is 16.95C in July; which was 0.33C warmer than the record set in 2019? Surely there just cannot be a variation of 2.8C?
The NOAA climate set of GHCN-daily, the most-used data for every product NOAA and others put out, has only 7336 stations that provide data for long enough to generate the 1980-2011 and 1990-2021 baselines. Forty-seven percent of those stations are in the US; another 14% are in Russia, China, and Australia. Yet somehow they put out average global anomalies with two decimal places, starting with data that only has tenths of a degree.
The answer to your question is astoundingly simple. They lied.
Neo
August 8, 2023 6:31 am
Yesterday, this appeared … Federal workers have been authorized to leave work early as severe weather is expected to hit the Washington, D.C., area and parts of the Northeast region of the country. In a news release Monday, the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) said federal employees located in the D.C. area were authorized to leave their workplaces two hours earlier than expected, and that all employees must evacuate their buildings “no later than 3:00 at which time Federal offices are closed.”
When I got home the weather people were breathless .. “Extreme Weather Watch”, like we never ever get thunderstorms in the summer.
This all smelled of “Climate Change” hysteria.
It would be “weather hysteria” not the climate change version. It might be wise to take into account a seriously unfavorable weather forecast, especially for travelers, but that has nothing to do with climate. In fact, people making unnecessary trips in really bad weather are putting themselves and others into danger. Driving across North Dakota in a blizzard is stupid.
That’s exactly what it was. They had severe thunderstorms near Washington DC, and the weather people went into a panic.
Cam_S
August 8, 2023 8:48 am
In the quest to reduce automotive CO2 emissions, cars are becoming much heavier. Thanks to electric car batteries.
– – – – – – – – –
American cars are developing a serious weight problem
Average new vehicle has gained 175 pounds in the past three years, bloating made worse by transition to electric models
The increased weight of EV’s is causing insurance companies and others to start looking at parking garages and how many of these EV’s the structure can handle. They will probably have to leave some empty spaces in their parking garages to accomodate the EV’s. Or just ban EV’s from parking in parking garages.
J Boles
August 8, 2023 10:10 am
Pat Smith
August 8, 2023 10:11 am
The Times today has an article about the ‘record-breaking reductions in sea ice’ in Antarctica. It states that is very serious because it reduces the amount of solar radiation reflected by the ice and warms the planet. Is this true? For half the year, the ice caps are in darkness; for the rest, solar radiation is very weak so the effect is very small – is this true? Also, they compare the light coloured ice with the dark water – water does not have an albedo like sand, it reflects sunlight and is very bright in one direction, dark in others. How do you measure the albedo of a reflective surface like this? Look forward to any help you can give me!
You know the water below is at -1.7C so if the ice surface is -35C then the energy loss from the sea ice is of the order of 140W/m^2 less than if it was open water.
It is true but has been ongoing since early this year. An unseasonably warm air mass moved into one of the Antarctic regions and inhibited sea ice formation across a wide area. Although other regions of Antarctica showed higher than normal sea ice extents this year, the reduction was big enough that the total sea ice extent this year was much lower than average. It was caused by a bit of weather, something out of the ordinary this year.
It does help that I was looking at this in May and early June after an early break-up (busy storm season) and refreeze (abnormally low temperatures in Russian Arctic) in the Arctic then started looking at what was happening in the Antarctic. Unusual weather but not extreme.
This will cause flooding on adjacent land in coming weeks and record snowfall on northern China and Japan in a few months.
The only locations that have turned the corner from loss of ice extent are Green;and and Iceland. Think how much hotter the oceans have to get in August before snow is accumulating on land right across the NH.
Green grandstanding is starting to grate, says Merryn Somerset Webb
By Merryn Somerset Webb
published 8 August 2023
“First Tony Blair. Then Philip Hammond. Then the floodgates. For the past decade there has been a consensus among politicians (and the general population) that the UK must reach net-zero – by 2050 and by any means possible. Not any more. In an interview with The New Statesman, Blair more or less called our efforts pointless. Hammond said his party had been “systematically dishonest” about the costs of said efforts. And Sunak promised to grant a hundred new licences for North Sea oil and gas while insisting that he is “on the side” of motorists.”
end excerpt
Fran
August 8, 2023 1:13 pm
Tom Nelson’s interview with Kenneth P Green on MODELS is the best general explanation of how models can be deterministic (all subroutines valid) or have a bits in them where “we think this works this way”. His book “The Plague of Models” sounds interesting.
ChatGPT gives wrong answers to programming questions more than 50% of the time
By Ross Kelly
published 8 August 2023
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You better fact-check anything you get from ChatGPT. It’s not very reliable, and has been known to create and distribute blatant lies. like the ones made up about Professor Jonathan Turley.
This asteriod would be easier than Mars, and Elon could live on it under Earth-equivalent “gravity” and be fully protected from any radiation coming from the outside. Something he couldn’t do on Mars.
Elon could invite his closest 100,000 friends to come share his orbiting paradise, once he got it finished.
Elon could be King of this Kingdom! But, I guess he is already King of his Kingdom, here on Earth.
But Elon could sponsor such a project as a means to preserve the human race and all the animals and plants on Earth. We’ll probably need to hollow out a few more asteriods for all that, but Elon can give us a good jumpstart if he put his mind to it.
We are going to have to start considering property rights in outer space soon.
Property rights are already covered (I believe) in orbit and, of course, outer space is not the earth orbit but much further out, beyond the orbits of the Moon and Cruithne.
Aside from that it’s all about costs – while it’s cheaper to have everything here on earth no billionaire will risk his life in space. If that changes, do let Elon know, won’t you?
Joe Gordon
August 8, 2023 3:01 pm
I’m guessing that at some point the NOAA starts replacing the Mauna Loa CO2 measuring equipment to show either progress toward “Net Zero” if China refuses to comply and we cycle a little cooler, or whatever they need to show in order to continue whatever narrative the UN is pushing at the time.
It’s sad that we’re reaching a point at which we can’t trust record-keeping. All we have is what humans have had almost their entire existence: the ability to walk around and observe for ourselves that the world is not actually boiling.
macha
August 8, 2023 3:31 pm
Here’s my conspiracy theory. In Western Australia, household rooftop solar generators now get about 3c/KW exported but pay about 26c to import. The AS47772.2016 standard for panels to be sold in Australia limits the upper preset voltage to 255V, with authorised only override to 258V.
Now the grid supply gets load “managed” by the power company, when citizens 5KW systems are pumping out at near max generation, by pushing up the voltage to 259V. This trips the solar inverter off via the overvoltage protection limit, thus shedding household generation and whstever consumption switches from solar to the network grid.
No wonder the bill has risen.
No doubt the large commercial wind and solar farms still get paid …generating or not, but us plebs get screwed.
This scam also encourages purchase of batteries to store instead of give away power thus creating impression of desire to transition to renewables.
Ugh!
observa
August 8, 2023 4:27 pm
Oz military has a new secret weapon with the development of a woke Corporal Klinger brigade- Retired soldier writes letter to PM protesting ADF’s new uniform rule (msn.com)
At the first sign of trouble we’ll throw them into the front line and hope the enemy will die laughing although you suspect the lefties are counting on a Commie walkover with their life imitating art push.
Mr.
August 8, 2023 4:46 pm
At the risk of producing frowns on the foreheads of the many savvy contributors to this site, after following the AGW stoush on many platforms for over 15 years now, I’m committing to calling bs on the whole premise of point and counter-point arguments about “the science”.
As far as I can determine, none of the metrics used to track climatic effects are fit for purpose, so there’s no point in arguing about poofteenths of degrees of claimed movements in the metrics over months, years, decades, centuries.
The thousands of climates around the world will do what they do, when they want to do it, and there’s s.f.a. we puny humans can do about it.
The only real “cause” worth engaging in now as far as I can see is about energy fuels sourcing, production, reliability, dispatchability, distribution and econometrics.
That’s the battlefront of facts, ideas and policies that I’m concerned that rationality wins decisively on.
“The only real “cause” worth engaging in now as far as I can see is about energy fuels sourcing, production, reliability, dispatchability, distribution and econometrics.
That’s the battlefront of facts, ideas and policies that I’m concerned that rationality wins decisively on.”
I think you are correct, and it is basically going to boil down to economic issues, and issues about the impossiblity of humanity ever being able to reduce our CO2 output to Zero.
Maui fires live updates: six dead, dozens injured in Hawaii as Hurricane Dora winds drive wildfires
People pulled from ocean after attempt to escape fires burning on Hawaiian island of Maui, driven by strong winds; Biden mobilises ‘all available federal assets’
There’s far more scientific fraud than anyone wants to admit
This is an article taken from the Guardian which many of us will be aware of but it certainly drives home the scientific fraud that is going on!
How to fix the energy crisis
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/08/08/how-to-fix-the-energy-crisis/
It can be done.
The July global surface air temperature anomaly has been getting a lot of attention.
But in other news, the July 2023 estimate of Arctic sea ice volume has been added to this table from the Polar Science Center.
http://psc.apl.uw.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/PIOMAS.2sst.monthly.Current.v2.1.txt
The attached plot shows the July values since the beginning of the series in 1979, with a smoothed curve in bold black. Smoothed curves for all the other months are also shown. Lowess smoothing, f=0.3.
According to BFMTV, a French rolling news channel, the sea temperature at La Ciotat in South of France on the Mediterranean on Sunday was 13.5°C about 64°F. gone down from 29°C earlier in the summer. Caused by an upwelling of cold water because of a strong Mistral. The air temperature today is mid to high 20s
Nothing on the BBC though
Lucky French
In London it is – as you would expect – raining and 16C
Barbecues at the ready!
It was cool at Europa Park in Ringsheim Germany yesterday, many people were wearing jackets.
You will be good in a couple of days….26C forecast.
Believe it when I see it. The forecasts this year have been worse than usual and that 26° high is for 3 days from now, not 2.
Here in south-east Arizona – just had our first decent thunder storm. This mornings ‘high’ was 95°F outside, 82°F indoors. The storm hit at 1515, with some small hail. Current outside temperature: 65°F. Still have a shirt-sleeve 74°F inside.
The hurricane is skirting Hawaii from the south.
And Japan is getting some activity:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/500hPa/orthographic=-182.25,12.94,464
BRICS anyone?
https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/yuan-loses-core-support-firms-leave-china-2023-08-07/
Analysis: Yuan loses core support as firms leave China
By Samuel Shen and Tom Westbrook
August 7, 202311:29 PM UTC”
I don’t think the Yuan is going to replace the Dollar anytime soon.
I think China has a lot of economic problems right now.
Once Crooked Joe Biden is out of office, replaced by a non-Democrat president, based in reality, the U.S. economy will pick up and lead the world again, and leave China in the dust.
BRICS can go fish.
The [near] future will be CBDC’s
The Chinese have done the pilot study.
“Nigel Farage has warned banks are trying to “force a cashless society” on Britons.
It comes as banking giant NatWest prepares to impose a policy that could see restrictions on the amount of cash customers can withdraw and deposit from next month. In a leaflet to current account holders, it said the new policy is “giving us the right to set limits on inbound and outbound payments”.
The bank also said it could impose “daily and annual” cash withdrawal and deposit limits, reports The Telegraph”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1799403/Nigel-Farage-warns-banks-trying-to-force-cashless-society
How did it come about in societies obsessed with “freedom” that it’s mandatory to deal with banks? There are now businesses that require even in-person payments to be made by credit card. Why should a person be obligated to accept a check for wages or the purchase of an item? Checks are not money.
I wish I had an answer
In the US bills still say, “This note is legal tender for all debts public and private”.
It might make an interesting class action suit if a company refused to accept cash.
Costs – banks love the idea of going completely digital and a cashless society for the simple reason that they can eliminate cash machines and physical premises; it’ll cut their costs right down and maximise profits. What they are telling everyone is that it will be more ‘efficient’ and ‘secure’ and enable them to offer more services for their customers. It is a massive con job by the banks purely for their own benefit.
Uh mm, governments don’t like cash…a credit card slip or other data entry for every transaction means they can easily collect taxes from the pool boy…
Oppresive govenments like to control everyone’s cash, along with every other aspect of people’s lives.
A cashless society is just one step closer to authoritarian government.
https://scitechdaily.com/solar-surprise-scientists-discover-unprecedented-high-energy-light-coming-from-the-sun/
Solar Surprise: Scientists Discover Unprecedented High-Energy Light Coming From the Sun
By Matt Davenport, Michigan State University August 7, 2023
“The sun is more surprising than we knew,” said Mehr Un Nisa, a postdoctoral research associate at Michigan State University. “We thought we had this star figured out, but that’s not the case.”
How would increased gamma rays hitting the Earth affect the Earth’s weather?
Interesting! Thanks.
<puzzled> How do anyone know they’ve increased – we only just discovered them.
Epic grunt they have tho.
It would have been nice to know how many are incoming.
Because: To get One Joule of Energy from what Sol radiates normally at its Peak Wavelength of 525nm, you’d need about 2.5 Million Trillion photons
To get One Joule from these beasts you’d only need (only) 6.25 Million of them
And from CO₂, assuming it did actually radiate, 75.7 Million Trillion photons at its 15um Peak in Earth’s atmosphere
I posted this link to the original paper in the comments on the
Record Global Temperatures Driven by Hunga-Tonga Volcanic Water Vapor – Visualized
Post. You may find what you want to know in the paper. I’d be interested in what you find
Science is settled ?? 😀
Until such time as someone comes along and stirs the pot.
“How would increased gamma rays hitting the Earth affect the Earth’s weather?”
I think it would depend on a lot of different factors, Tom, because Earth’s weather-system is so amazingly complex.
However, I think their effects on the biosphere could be more significant for us since they would probably cause faster genetic mutation-rates across the whole spectrum of terrestrial organisms, including our own species homo sapiens. Although the specific long-term consequences of that would be unpredictable from our present state of incomplete knowledge and understanding of the biosphere it seems likely to me that, given enough time, the current human species could give rise to a variety of novel offshoot-species. But whether or not these offshoots would be more advanced than our current human species (in evolutionary terms) remains an open question to my mind.
“it seems likely to me that, given enough time, the current human species could give rise to a variety of novel offshoot-species.”
I would have to agree. Now we have to figure out if that is good or bad, or inevitable.
CO2 emissions from fossil fuels have increased tremendously the last couple of decades. Yet the Mauna Loa graph is still pretty linear. Any thoughts on that?
Well obviously, human emissions are therefore only a minute part of rising CO2 levels as measured by MO. So AGW is very small in comparison with water vapour effects that moderate global climate. The newly discovered gamma rays show us that solar atmospheric effects are more important than previously admittee by the IPCC etc, and they need a rethink about the whole AGW business.
I know all that I wonder where the CO2 went. Plants, ocean, etc
In 2020 the World just about ‘closed-down’ due to Covid, YET the curve did not deviate on its upward trajectory one little bit, even though ‘mankind’ had exited the CO2 bus and left only Mother Nature to do her thing. Uhmm!
Yes my thoughts too
I checked the photosynthesis curve vs CO2 levels and its linear
Gas giants order solar activity driving the greatest mid latitude heat and cold waves in history:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQemMt_PNwwBKNOS7GSP7gbWDmcDBJ80UJzkqDIQ75_Sctjn89VoM5MIYHQWHkpn88cMQXkKjXznM-u/pub
Since finding the temperature.global site I have frequently visited it and the global temperature has been between 14.13 and 14.16C.
Why are climatologists saying the average global temperature is 16.95C in July; which was 0.33C warmer than the record set in 2019? Surely there just cannot be a variation of 2.8C?
“”Why are climatologists saying the average global temperature is…””
Because the narrative demands it
The NOAA climate set of GHCN-daily, the most-used data for every product NOAA and others put out, has only 7336 stations that provide data for long enough to generate the 1980-2011 and 1990-2021 baselines. Forty-seven percent of those stations are in the US; another 14% are in Russia, China, and Australia. Yet somehow they put out average global anomalies with two decimal places, starting with data that only has tenths of a degree.
Shameless.
The answer to your question is astoundingly simple. They lied.
Yesterday, this appeared …
Federal workers have been authorized to leave work early as severe weather is expected to hit the Washington, D.C., area and parts of the Northeast region of the country. In a news release Monday, the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) said federal employees located in the D.C. area were authorized to leave their workplaces two hours earlier than expected, and that all employees must evacuate their buildings “no later than 3:00 at which time Federal offices are closed.”
When I got home the weather people were breathless .. “Extreme Weather Watch”, like we never ever get thunderstorms in the summer.
This all smelled of “Climate Change” hysteria.
Doubtless your nostrils are not deceived.
It would be “weather hysteria” not the climate change version. It might be wise to take into account a seriously unfavorable weather forecast, especially for travelers, but that has nothing to do with climate. In fact, people making unnecessary trips in really bad weather are putting themselves and others into danger. Driving across North Dakota in a blizzard is stupid.
So they’re going to go home and crank up their AC?
“This all smelled of “Climate Change” hysteria.”
That’s exactly what it was. They had severe thunderstorms near Washington DC, and the weather people went into a panic.
In the quest to reduce automotive CO2 emissions, cars are becoming much heavier. Thanks to electric car batteries.
– – – – – – – – –
American cars are developing a serious weight problem
Average new vehicle has gained 175 pounds in the past three years, bloating made worse by transition to electric models
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-08/american-cars-are-developing-a-serious-weight-problem
The increased weight of EV’s is causing insurance companies and others to start looking at parking garages and how many of these EV’s the structure can handle. They will probably have to leave some empty spaces in their parking garages to accomodate the EV’s. Or just ban EV’s from parking in parking garages.
The Times today has an article about the ‘record-breaking reductions in sea ice’ in Antarctica. It states that is very serious because it reduces the amount of solar radiation reflected by the ice and warms the planet. Is this true? For half the year, the ice caps are in darkness; for the rest, solar radiation is very weak so the effect is very small – is this true? Also, they compare the light coloured ice with the dark water – water does not have an albedo like sand, it reflects sunlight and is very bright in one direction, dark in others. How do you measure the albedo of a reflective surface like this? Look forward to any help you can give me!
Sea ice insulates. More sea ice means more heat retention. Sea ice provides net warming.
The data proves this because the temperature difference across a metre or so of sea ice can reach more than 30C.
https://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
You know the water below is at -1.7C so if the ice surface is -35C then the energy loss from the sea ice is of the order of 140W/m^2 less than if it was open water.
The reflectivity of water is dependent on incident angle. The linked chart indicates that change:
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Albedo-of-water-for-the-incidence-of-direct-solar-radiation-as-a-function-of-the-angle_fig3_312990302
See this:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/12/why-albedo-is-the-wrong-measure-of-reflectivity-for-modeling-climate/
Thanks, Clyde, superb paper and comments!
It is true but has been ongoing since early this year. An unseasonably warm air mass moved into one of the Antarctic regions and inhibited sea ice formation across a wide area. Although other regions of Antarctica showed higher than normal sea ice extents this year, the reduction was big enough that the total sea ice extent this year was much lower than average. It was caused by a bit of weather, something out of the ordinary this year.
Best explanation of the situation I have heard so far.
It does help that I was looking at this in May and early June after an early break-up (busy storm season) and refreeze (abnormally low temperatures in Russian Arctic) in the Arctic then started looking at what was happening in the Antarctic. Unusual weather but not extreme.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/ocean-hits-highest-recorded-temperature
Ocean Hits Highest Recorded Temperature, Still Rising
“We are putting oceans under more stress than we have done at any point in history.”
Aug 6 by Maggie Harrison
More “Hottest Ocean Evah!” garbarge from the climate change alarmists
And the peak solar intensity over the northern hemisphere only started increasing 400 years ago. It has 10,000 years of warning to come.
Today we get a glimpse of what the oceans across th NH will look like in August in a few hundred years. Right now it is only the northwestern Pacific going into convective overdrive with impressive levels of atmospheric water:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=total_precipitable_water/orthographic=-215.64,13.70,372/loc=129.767,29.616
This will cause flooding on adjacent land in coming weeks and record snowfall on northern China and Japan in a few months.
The only locations that have turned the corner from loss of ice extent are Green;and and Iceland. Think how much hotter the oceans have to get in August before snow is accumulating on land right across the NH.
https://moneyweek.com/investments/energy/the-backlash-against-net-zero-begins
The backlash against net-zero begins
Green grandstanding is starting to grate, says Merryn Somerset Webb
By Merryn Somerset Webb
published 8 August 2023
“First Tony Blair. Then Philip Hammond. Then the floodgates. For the past decade there has been a consensus among politicians (and the general population) that the UK must reach net-zero – by 2050 and by any means possible. Not any more. In an interview with The New Statesman, Blair more or less called our efforts pointless. Hammond said his party had been “systematically dishonest” about the costs of said efforts. And Sunak promised to grant a hundred new licences for North Sea oil and gas while insisting that he is “on the side” of motorists.”
end excerpt
Tom Nelson’s interview with Kenneth P Green on MODELS is the best general explanation of how models can be deterministic (all subroutines valid) or have a bits in them where “we think this works this way”. His book “The Plague of Models” sounds interesting.
https://www.itpro.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chatgpt-gives-wrong-answers-to-programming-questions-more-than-50-of-the-time
ChatGPT gives wrong answers to programming questions more than 50% of the time
By Ross Kelly
published 8 August 2023
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You better fact-check anything you get from ChatGPT. It’s not very reliable, and has been known to create and distribute blatant lies. like the ones made up about Professor Jonathan Turley.
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-carbon-dioxide-triggers-explosive-basaltic.html
Carbon dioxide, not water, triggers explosive basaltic volcanoes
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Is there anything CO2 cannot do?
Apart from drive climate…
Falsely defined greenhouse effect and thankfully chemists know stuff.
Dr Markus Ott explains
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JXKHfL55G2A
And future CO2 emissions not to blame.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ahKajudPhzM
As convection and thermalisation dominates at near surface height.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbNNhLqhWPg
“As convection and thermalisation dominates at near surface height.”
From analysis of balloon data, it looks like the gas laws control ALL of the atmosphere.
https://youtu.be/XfRBr7PEawY?t=1431
A subject near and dear to my heart:
https://phys.org/news/2023-08-asteroid-space-habitat-years.html
How to change an asteroid into a space habitat, in just 12 years
by Andy Tomaswick, Universe Today August 8, 2023
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Humanity needs to move into space on a permanent basis as soon as possible, as a means of protecting the human race from extinction.
It’s going to happen eventually, barring some huge catastrophe happening to humanity before we are ready.
This plan looks like a good first step. Some billionaire may decide he wants his own personal giant space habitat. It’s not that far out of reach.
I thought Elon Musk was after Mars?
This asteriod would be easier than Mars, and Elon could live on it under Earth-equivalent “gravity” and be fully protected from any radiation coming from the outside. Something he couldn’t do on Mars.
Elon could invite his closest 100,000 friends to come share his orbiting paradise, once he got it finished.
Elon could be King of this Kingdom! But, I guess he is already King of his Kingdom, here on Earth.
But Elon could sponsor such a project as a means to preserve the human race and all the animals and plants on Earth. We’ll probably need to hollow out a few more asteriods for all that, but Elon can give us a good jumpstart if he put his mind to it.
We are going to have to start considering property rights in outer space soon.
Property rights are already covered (I believe) in orbit and, of course, outer space is not the earth orbit but much further out, beyond the orbits of the Moon and Cruithne.
Aside from that it’s all about costs – while it’s cheaper to have everything here on earth no billionaire will risk his life in space. If that changes, do let Elon know, won’t you?
I’m guessing that at some point the NOAA starts replacing the Mauna Loa CO2 measuring equipment to show either progress toward “Net Zero” if China refuses to comply and we cycle a little cooler, or whatever they need to show in order to continue whatever narrative the UN is pushing at the time.
It’s sad that we’re reaching a point at which we can’t trust record-keeping. All we have is what humans have had almost their entire existence: the ability to walk around and observe for ourselves that the world is not actually boiling.
Here’s my conspiracy theory. In Western Australia, household rooftop solar generators now get about 3c/KW exported but pay about 26c to import. The AS47772.2016 standard for panels to be sold in Australia limits the upper preset voltage to 255V, with authorised only override to 258V.
Now the grid supply gets load “managed” by the power company, when citizens 5KW systems are pumping out at near max generation, by pushing up the voltage to 259V. This trips the solar inverter off via the overvoltage protection limit, thus shedding household generation and whstever consumption switches from solar to the network grid.
No wonder the bill has risen.
No doubt the large commercial wind and solar farms still get paid …generating or not, but us plebs get screwed.
This scam also encourages purchase of batteries to store instead of give away power thus creating impression of desire to transition to renewables.
Ugh!
Oz military has a new secret weapon with the development of a woke Corporal Klinger brigade-
Retired soldier writes letter to PM protesting ADF’s new uniform rule (msn.com)
At the first sign of trouble we’ll throw them into the front line and hope the enemy will die laughing although you suspect the lefties are counting on a Commie walkover with their life imitating art push.
At the risk of producing frowns on the foreheads of the many savvy contributors to this site, after following the AGW stoush on many platforms for over 15 years now, I’m committing to calling bs on the whole premise of point and counter-point arguments about “the science”.
As far as I can determine, none of the metrics used to track climatic effects are fit for purpose, so there’s no point in arguing about poofteenths of degrees of claimed movements in the metrics over months, years, decades, centuries.
The thousands of climates around the world will do what they do, when they want to do it, and there’s s.f.a. we puny humans can do about it.
The only real “cause” worth engaging in now as far as I can see is about energy fuels sourcing, production, reliability, dispatchability, distribution and econometrics.
That’s the battlefront of facts, ideas and policies that I’m concerned that rationality wins decisively on.
“The only real “cause” worth engaging in now as far as I can see is about energy fuels sourcing, production, reliability, dispatchability, distribution and econometrics.
That’s the battlefront of facts, ideas and policies that I’m concerned that rationality wins decisively on.”
I think you are correct, and it is basically going to boil down to economic issues, and issues about the impossiblity of humanity ever being able to reduce our CO2 output to Zero.
Batteries or diesel trains it is then-
The world’s first hydrogen-powered train has made its final stop (msn.com)
Don’t you just up the fares to cover it and tell the commuters they’re saving the planet?
Story tip: CO2 capture and pipeline transport from ethanol plants is becoming more acrimonious: https://www.nwestiowa.com/news/it-is-a-war-on-co2-pipelines-king-says/article_619ac55e-3303-11ee-9a9f-f314a5223525.html
Typhoon attacks in southern Japan and South Korea.
Story tip…
Hawaii wildfires are the result of climate change.
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Wildfire ‘apocalypse’ kills 6 in Hawaii’s Maui island
Blazes fanned by winds of distant hurricane force residents, tourists to flee
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/hawaii-wildfires-1.6931213
Maui fires live updates: six dead, dozens injured in Hawaii as Hurricane Dora winds drive wildfires
People pulled from ocean after attempt to escape fires burning on Hawaiian island of Maui, driven by strong winds; Biden mobilises ‘all available federal assets’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/aug/10/hawaii-wildfires-dead-dozens-injured-as-hurricane-dora-winds-drive-fires-through-maui-town-of-lahaina
There’s far more scientific fraud than anyone wants to admit
This is an article taken from the Guardian which many of us will be aware of but it certainly drives home the scientific fraud that is going on!
There’s far more scientific fraud than anyone wants to admit (msn.com)