YouTube suppressed this pushback video on heat wave alarmism – let’s give it a second life

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From Jim Lakely at the Heartland Institute:

A viral heat wave video was just nuked by YouTube. It’s not just no longer being promoted by YouTube’s algorithm, it’s being actively suppressed. It went from 8,051 total views between 8 a.m. and 10 a.m. yesterday to 181 views in that same time period 24 hours later.

A video doesn’t drop in views by 98% in 24 hours “organically.” That is literally impossible — especially since it has the most comments and likes of any of our videos in months. Those are the things that YouTube says its smiles upon because viewers are choosing to engage with the video. People engaged with videos keep watching YouTube, which makes revenue for Alphabet/Google/YouTube. This was done on purpose by ideologues in power at YouTube.

We suspect that many of our climate skeptic videos are suppressed by YouTube, but it’s very hard to prove. How do you prove someone at YouTube is suppressing views to your content? Maybe your video just isn’t “hitting” with audiences. So make better videos next time! Well, this is about as clear as any evidence can be, because it was a HUGE hit with audiences — a timely short video addressing a big story (heat waves) that exploded in views almost instantly — until it suddenly wasn’t.

Please Tweet and Share this post so that the video is watched – pushback against corporate suppression.

URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnSyDr0F9_M

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July 18, 2023 10:17 am

http://www.youtube.com is blockedhttp://www.youtube.com refused to connect.ERR_BLOCKED_BY_RESPONSE

1saveenergy
Reply to  jimviola578
July 18, 2023 10:22 am

In the UK the link worked for me 17:20 GMT 18th July
91,408 views 15 Jul 2023

Bryan A
Reply to  1saveenergy
July 18, 2023 10:11 pm

Just played it 95,000+ views 10:09pm Tuesday 7/18 PDT

peteturbo
Reply to  Bryan A
July 19, 2023 11:04 am

99k views, uk 19.00hrs, 19/7 2023.
looks like wuwt needs more subscribers!!!

Bryan A
Reply to  peteturbo
July 19, 2023 1:23 pm

Currently 16 views away from 100,000. It might make a difference viewing it in the thread vs viewing it at youtube

Caleb Shaw
Reply to  Bryan A
July 20, 2023 8:52 pm

I re-posted it on my site. If it gets re-posted on ten-thousand little platforms, who needs Facebook?

Excellent push-back, by the way.

Also the shadow-banning she experienced provides an excellent spring-board for a rave concerning Freedom of Speech:

https://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2023/07/20/antibanning/

CampsieFellow
Reply to  1saveenergy
July 19, 2023 2:27 am

I live in the UK. When I clicked on the link it worked. But when I clicked on the word “YouTube” on the above video I got the blocked message.

Reply to  CampsieFellow
July 20, 2023 5:39 am

I just got the same thing. Watched it here, could not follow the you tube link on the screen.

wimbornesteve
Reply to  jimviola578
July 18, 2023 10:59 am

Link worked for me in the UK.

Michael 63
Reply to  jimviola578
July 18, 2023 11:17 am

Link worked in DK just now (see timestamp to avoid timezone issues). 91,507 views.

Reply to  jimviola578
July 18, 2023 1:01 pm

Works for me.

Reply to  jimviola578
July 18, 2023 3:59 pm

Worked for me just now.

johnlocke
Reply to  jimviola578
July 18, 2023 7:12 pm

No problem here in the USA, maybe it’s your browser?

Reply to  jimviola578
July 19, 2023 7:21 am

Notice the missing letter S.
https not http
https is more secure than an http website.

July 18, 2023 10:24 am

“If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed.  
If you read the newspaper, you’re misinformed.” Mark Twain
_________________________________________________

These days, there are a lot of people who don ‘t watch the evening news anymore because it can’t be believed.

Ian_e
Reply to  Steve Case
July 18, 2023 10:43 am

So true: nowadays the MSM news consists of 2 strands – misinformation and trivia. Oh and they spend a lot of time covering sports tediously.

Reply to  Steve Case
July 18, 2023 12:58 pm

That, and I find that a lot of the news is just a cut above gossip. We get local ‘news’ along the lines “And how did you feel after your dog was run over by the garbage truck?”

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
July 19, 2023 4:17 am

On that note, almost every night without fail they show some one emotionally overcome and sobbing in front of the camera. I can imagine that when it doesn’t happen, the director’s phone rings with the producer screaming at him, “Where’s my tears? I want to see tears every night. If you can produce it I’ll find somebody who can!”

Reply to  Steve Case
July 18, 2023 1:47 pm

Similar quote.

All I know is just what I read in the papers, and that’s an alibi for my ignorance.
— Will Rogers

JonasM
July 18, 2023 10:26 am

Link worked for me in Ohio, and Likes are over 8K, views at 91K.
A temporary glitch in the Matrix?

July 18, 2023 10:59 am

All of the recent headlines came from journalists referencing the Climate Reanalyzer’s “Daily 2-meter Air Temperature” page and ignoring the very important caveat lower down the page under “Special Notice (updated 13 July 2023” bolded and in red so it can’t be missed.

The purpose of the interactive chart and maps on this page is to provide daily snapshots of temperature as estimated from the Climate Forecast System. The mean global temperature increases in early July 2023, estimated from the Climate Forecast System, should NOT be taken as “official” observational records. It is important to note that much of the elevated global mean temperature signal was associated with weather patterns in the Southern Hemisphere that brought warmer-than-usual air over portions of the Antarctic.

The NOAA Climate Forecast System that the data comes from is a computer generate model designed to try to forecast future climate from measurements. It’s not showing the actual measurements. It’s showing the model estimates.

Reply to  stinkerp
July 18, 2023 12:15 pm

The tweet that started it all was on July 6, 2023 from Copernicus ECMWF showing a plot of hourly temperature predictions from the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts ERA5 hourly data. ERA5 is a “reanalysis” that “combines model data with observations from across the world into a globally complete and consistent dataset using the laws of physics“. The University of Maine had the decency to highlight the Special Notice on their Climate Reanalyzer page (on July 13) to clarify that the data was not simply from observations but from computer-generated forecasts. The Copernicus ECMWF website also has a similar explanation but they just went ahead and misleadingly posted the plot like it was from measurements, stating that the preliminary daily global average temperature was “…setting a new record”. As the University of Maine explained, much (or most) of the warmth was from a weather pattern over part of Antarctica which skewed the predicted global average.

Reply to  stinkerp
July 18, 2023 6:00 pm

Saying the important part quietly is just another form of narrative control, lying.

Reply to  stinkerp
July 18, 2023 1:00 pm

Yes, the operative word is is “estimated!”

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
July 20, 2023 5:45 am

Estimated by liars making stuff up.
Did a single actual location set a single record for hottest day on record?

markm
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 21, 2023 3:35 pm

Death Valley may have gone 1 degree over the previous record. At 283 feet below sea level, that’s one of the few places on Earth where “It’s hot and we might die” often comes true – but that was so even when the place was named in 1849 at the end of the Little Ice Age and before burning fossil fuels began to increase atmospheric CO2.

johnlocke
Reply to  MarkW
July 18, 2023 7:14 pm

Not all democrats. I’ve been a dem for 20 years, I don’t believe in this rubbish, don’t paint us all with the same brush.

Drake
Reply to  johnlocke
July 18, 2023 10:02 pm

But if you vote democrat, you are VOTING for the rubbish to happen. All the crony capitalist subsidies that will make democrat donors rich, on the backs of the poor.

Reply to  johnlocke
July 18, 2023 10:06 pm

Good point.

Now we just need the climate hysterics to stop treating people who are sceptical of CO2s ability to boil the oceans as child-eating, kitty drowning, conspiracy theorists in the pocket of BIG OIL.

Maybe then we could have a proper debate if it’s allowed by the Misleadia

Reply to  Redge
July 19, 2023 8:10 am

All this crazy talk is new for the Democrats- they used to just bitch about the rich- now it’s just crazy talk.

Reply to  johnlocke
July 19, 2023 8:08 am

I used to be- for most of my 73 years. The recent years with the woke religion turned me against that party. I am not anti LGBQ+ nor racist- I’m just tired of hearing about those issues all day every day- along with the climate lunacy. They’ve stopped worrying about the poor people the day they decided that “free trade” is a good thing- thanks to Bill Clinton. In states like Woke-achusetts, which has a state legislator that is 95% Democrat- we have terrible state policies. It really is a one part state. I’ve sent emails to the Republican and Libertarian parties and don’t even get a reply. Apparently, there’s nobody there to read the emails.

Reply to  johnlocke
July 20, 2023 5:48 am

A coalition of 65 Democrat members of congress are all co-sponsoring a resolution.
It is not just one or another person who happens to vote Democrat.

John Endicott
Reply to  johnlocke
July 20, 2023 9:12 am

By continuing to support the Dems, you are part of the problem since you are enabling their insane policies regarding the climate (and just about everything else).

Reply to  John Endicott
July 21, 2023 8:15 pm

“By continuing to support the Dems, you are part of the problem”

That’s exactly right, and that goes for Republican politicians whose votes enable the radical Democrats, too.

Reply to  MarkW
July 19, 2023 8:02 am

Of course the oceans are already boiling according to climate scientist Al Gore.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 19, 2023 8:07 am

oops- wrong place, meant to reply to johnlocke

MarkW
July 18, 2023 11:20 am

Representative Omar proclaims that the planet recently broke a temperature record that has stood for 120,000 years.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-roasted-saying-earth-broke-heat-record-last-set-117977-bc

Story Tip

Reply to  MarkW
July 18, 2023 6:01 pm

Yes, she truly is a gifted genius in the modern definition of the words.

Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
July 20, 2023 5:50 am

You misspelled “grifter”.

Reply to  MarkW
July 19, 2023 8:10 am

another oops- so I got her mixed up with another politician- at least I know enough to correct myself!

rovingbroker
July 18, 2023 11:35 am

Working now.

“I learned a big lesson from one little crack. A train is only as good as its track.”
― Thomas the Tank Engine. A Crack in the Track

Philip CM
July 18, 2023 11:46 am

A heat wave(s) is/are weather. NOT climate!

Just saying…

Alarmism away 🙂

Elliot W
Reply to  Philip CM
July 18, 2023 11:11 pm

No, no, no. COLD waves are mere weather. But so-called “heat” waves (ie, sun shining in summer, outdoor temperatures are above room temperature) are evidence of runaway global warming . Sheesh. Keep with the program.
/sar

July 18, 2023 12:02 pm

Thanks for the debunking. Love the box of blue coal over your right shoulder.

July 18, 2023 12:53 pm

Here’s your story – 20-something year old journalists, who never lived without air conditioning, think it’s hot out this summer.

Phillip Bratby
July 18, 2023 1:02 pm

Watch Neil Oliver: “Fear mongering” over high temperatures is an ‘incessant attempt to keep us frightened’

Scissor
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
July 18, 2023 4:37 pm

Burning up in London at 16C.

MarkW
Reply to  Scissor
July 18, 2023 5:01 pm

It hit 36C here today.
It was hotter last year.

Drake
Reply to  MarkW
July 18, 2023 10:05 pm

I had to leave my doors and windows open all day on Cedar Mountain if southern Utah. It got all the way up to 79f. It was horrible. I almost perspired!

July 18, 2023 1:06 pm

Be sure to watch to the end. YouTube may not count your view if you don’t watch until the end.

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
July 18, 2023 4:25 pm

Too many views and they pull it….

DStayer
July 18, 2023 1:15 pm

Good concise and on point video, you should consider putting it and your other videos onto Rumble.com – I know you won’t have the “quasi” censorship there.

jdunfee12
July 18, 2023 1:18 pm

A different, and I think better, approach would be to promote some other video hosting service, rather than promote Youtube.

johnlocke
Reply to  jdunfee12
July 18, 2023 7:16 pm

peertube and odyssey work good for stuff like this

July 18, 2023 1:47 pm

Regardless the breathless doomsday reporting, I’m going out on a limb and saying that July and August 1936 were just a tad warmer.

John Endicott
Reply to  Shoki
July 20, 2023 9:17 am

Well 1936 was until it retroactively cooled a few years back. The past just keeps getting colder somehow.

July 18, 2023 1:51 pm

Last night about 1:30am EST, I went YouTube to watch something on my TV and the got a message that the YouTube server was down.
May or may not be related to this.

Reply to  Gunga Din
July 18, 2023 2:03 pm

I just watched it on YouTube and it worked. (Great, short takedown!)
Whether the issue relates to their server being down or the attention brought to it here? I don’t know.

July 18, 2023 3:04 pm

Paul eviscerates the China “record heat”.

KNMI has no record of any weather station in Sanbao.

It is in a deep depression in a desert…

No previous data….. read more here.

Record Temperature In China Not All It Seems | NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT (wordpress.com)

Reply to  bnice2000
July 18, 2023 4:09 pm

When I mentioned the location a few stories ago I believe I may have hinted at it being in a depression, might even have intimated it’s climate contributed a little. Ah well, I’m simply not the table-thumping type!

aussiecol
July 18, 2023 3:10 pm

Where’s Nick Stokes and his side kick TFN to tell us they’re right and everyone else is wrong?

Reply to  aussiecol
July 18, 2023 4:10 pm

As per usual, conspicuous by their absence! They’ll show up in a day or two to drool over some other bit of fear porn.

MarkW
Reply to  aussiecol
July 18, 2023 5:13 pm

Earlier this year Nick was declaring that it was obvious that the reason why electricity prices were high was solely because gas prices had risen. He repeated this claim over and over again.
Well natural gas and coal prices have fallen by more than half, yet electricity prices have continued to climb.
For some reason, Nick hasn’t been talking about electricity prices recently.

Reply to  MarkW
July 18, 2023 6:03 pm

Because he’s full of shit?

Nick Stokes
Reply to  MarkW
July 18, 2023 7:53 pm

yet electricity prices have continued to climb.”

Really? Here are UK prices:
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Autralia
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Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 18, 2023 8:14 pm

UK consumers do not pay spot wholesale prices. They get to pay prices that include all the subsidies from FiT, ROCs, REGOs and CFDs, which now cost an average of just under £180/MWh. Plus all the rapidly rising network and balancing costs. Then there is the bill for government mandated hedging that means retailers were told to buy forward at very expensive prices, so the spot prices are irrelevant to their bills until those hedges are run off. The result is those bills look more like this:

CPI INDEX  Electricity, gas & misc. energy (G) 2015=100.png
Nick Stokes
Reply to  It doesnot add up
July 18, 2023 8:29 pm

The question was why have gas prices come down, and electricity prices not. You have provided an index that combines gas and electricity, which clearly won’t help. But it is the wholesale price that shows the effect of fuel prices. All the other imposts on buyers happen for other reasons.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 2:19 am

Nick says…

The bald statement was
“yet electricity prices have continued to climb.”

Yes Nick.. they HAVE continued to rise. !!

You tried to pretend you were clever..

… and got caught out yet again. !

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 2:22 am

But it is the wholesale price that shows the effect of fuel prices.”

NO, nit-pick.. it is the price that people have to pay that shows the effect of the fuel prices. !!

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 7:06 am

I have provided an explanation for the question. The prime reason relates to government mandated forward hedging. The next reason is rising index linked costs for renewables, which were boosted ~10% in April, and the rising costs of balancing and grid charges that are entirely the result of trying to incorporate more renewables on the grid.

Since you claim is that electricity prices respond to gas prices I have shown that you are wrong. What I have done is to explain that wholesale marginal electricity prices are not the determinant of consumer bills, and falling gas prices (which should have ecoed straight through on gas bills, but haven’t) are not the determinant of bills. OFGEM’s cap sets the price every three months at the moment as my chart clearly shows.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 18, 2023 8:24 pm

Nick, you know Australia had a mild summer, so not a lot of electricity being used for air-cons etc. in Q1 ’23

Let’s see what happens in the UK winter, and Oz summer, shall we. !

Nick Stokes
Reply to  bnice2000
July 18, 2023 9:14 pm

The bald statement was
“yet electricity prices have continued to climb.”

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 18, 2023 9:25 pm

We don’t know that yet.

Comparing different parts of the years is total nonsense.

I suspect you are well aware of that.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  bnice2000
July 18, 2023 9:42 pm

The bald statement was
“yet electricity prices have continued to climb.”

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 18, 2023 9:49 pm

When did your electricity provider last increase the price they charged you ?

When did they last decrease the price?

Come on Nick.. put up !

Here’s my last three prices.

May 22…. Off peak..21.22…. Peak..39.11

Nov 22…. Off Peak..24.95…. Peak..44.97

Now…….. Off Peak..29.05…. Peak..48.72

Reply to  bnice2000
July 19, 2023 1:02 am

EnergyAustralia said last month Variable Market Contract electricity prices for residences and small-medium businesses will be raised in NSW and Victoria as of August 1.

The residential increases will be 14.9 per cent and 25.9 per cent respectively, or around $368 and $482 per year on average.

Homes in SA and South East QLD will see increases from September 1 at and 17.2 per cent and 11.8 per cent respectively, or around $435 and $286 per year on average.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  bnice2000
July 19, 2023 1:56 am

The fuller statement was:

Well natural gas and coal prices have fallen by more than half, yet electricity prices have continued to climb.”

Have your gas prices halved?

Wholesale prices are the only interpretation.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 2:15 am

The part you picked out was
“yet electricity prices have continued to climb.””

Its hilarious to see you slithering and sliding like an eel in oil..

Poor Nick-Pick.

Caught out yet again so try the diversionary distraction route.. and FAILS completely. !

You almost have to pity him…but…nah.. he brings it on himself.

Nick Stokes
Reply to  bnice2000
July 19, 2023 2:15 pm

How is your coal bill lately?

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 3:39 pm

“How is your coal bill lately?”

Same as yours, unless you not attached to the grid.

But I bet you are… RELYING TOTALLY on that lovely dispatchable and very cheap brown coal that allows Victoria to exist..

Now, where’s those electricity prices of yours…

Too scared to post them ??

Reply to  bnice2000
July 19, 2023 5:57 pm

The peak electricity charge for me is going up on August 1st from $0.2326995 per kWh – to – $0.3173995 per kWh. 36% increase in peak electricity price.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 19, 2023 8:20 am

perhaps Nick lives off the grid, only rides a bike, grows his own food- so he has no clue

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 19, 2023 3:40 pm

He has no clue….. because of his brain-washing and his agenda, which doesn’t allow him to think rationally…

… and because he is Nick. !

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 7:51 am

And indeed they have. Here’s electricity price index figures separated out.

CPIH INDEX 04.5.1   ELECTRICITY 2015=100.png
Nick Stokes
Reply to  It doesnot add up
July 19, 2023 2:14 pm

MarkW’s claim was:
Well natural gas and coal prices have fallen by more than half, yet electricity prices have continued to climb.”
Do you have an index showing gas prices halving? Is there even a retail coal index?
The claim was clearly about wholesale prices, and that is the relevant indicator. All the stuff about hedging etc is about retailing, not generating.

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 3:36 pm

Still refusing to state your electricity price history hey Nick.

What COWARD you are !

Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 21, 2023 4:12 am

People pay retail prices. Those are not reflecting reductions in the costs of wholesale inputs such as NBP gas and API2 coal, both of which you can easily find charts for. There are separate retail indices available for gas and solid fuels. In the UK there is very little domestic use of coal so that is dominated by firewood.

At boilerjuice you can find a chart of domestic heating oil prices. Consumers do their own hedging by managing the stock in their tanks. The result is that prices are much more responsive to wholesale markets.

Gino
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 19, 2023 5:27 pm

by my Mk1 Mod 0 eyeball, Q1 23 (~80)might be double Q1 21(~40), and probaly 25-30% greater than Q1 20 (~60). Thanks for providing proof that prices of electricity have continued to rise.

sherro01
Reply to  Nick Stokes
July 20, 2023 7:18 pm

Nick,
How do you define “decline” when your bar graph shows the most recent value is HIGHER than 9 of the 12 earlier values shown?
Geoff S

Reply to  sherro01
July 21, 2023 5:17 am

What’s about hiding the decline ?
😀

morton
July 18, 2023 3:14 pm

I realize it is important to try to reach people that just use Y OU Tube,
but if we make, say for example Rumble, the next big thing, then the utubers will start coming over to the “other” platform for watching videos.
Too bad there is a central headquarters for ideas on how to pushback against the INSANE CLOWN crazy stuff we see everyday now.

but I betcha Xi and Putin love seeing the west self de struct..

July 18, 2023 4:01 pm

worked fine.

maybe the heat killed it before.

Mr.
Reply to  Steven Mosher
July 18, 2023 5:21 pm

Steve old mate your comedy material is much more chucklesome when you comment on climate stuff.

Give us more of that genre please.

Reply to  Mr.
July 19, 2023 12:13 am

“I’ll be here all week” – don’t go anywhere..

Robert Keon
July 18, 2023 4:34 pm

Some confusion may be coming from the method used to watch on youtube. If you click the link provided just above the small video viewing screen you see it OK on youtube, however if you click the “Watch on YouTube” or the “YouTube” text on the small screen you get this: QUOTE
http://www.youtube.com is blockedhttp://www.youtube.com refused to connect
ERR_BLOCKED_BY_RESPONSE

UNQUOTE

J Boles
July 18, 2023 4:46 pm

More ‘earth on fire’ porn tonight on the NBC nightly news (Lester Holt) the way they get all upset about 110 F in Arizona in July is crazy, it always gets that hot there. I think everyone has burned out on the WOLF! WOLF! climate narrative.

observa
July 18, 2023 5:17 pm

But!… but!…they’re longer and turbocharged-
Longer heatwaves driven by ‘turbo-charged’ climate change, say scientists (msn.com)
Turbocharged by slushfunding grants and clickbait support.

As an aside it would appear the climate changers are finally working out the wee problem for their Great Transition with the usual response pulling on the jackboots-
Small EVs are less road journeys needed to cut critical metal demand (msn.com)

Bob
July 18, 2023 5:26 pm

You tube is purely political. If a post props up the left wing/democrat/socialist/Marxist propaganda no problem. If you question that propaganda you are out, if you present any ideas other than the above you are out. Having said that I listen to music at YouTube and watch auto videos on YouTube. Other than that YouTube is not trustworthy.

Reply to  Bob
July 19, 2023 8:27 am

Everyone of Tony Heller’s videos on YouTube has a CLIMATE WARNING at the top. They periodically harass Tony- demonetize him- block some videos, etc.

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 22, 2023 3:43 am

I wonder how many censoring Biden FBI agents are assigned to YouTube?

John Frederick
July 18, 2023 5:28 pm

I have to admire the elegant sophistries with which the adherents to this web site dance around the brutal events that are happening now, in our country, in the world. But I am prompted to quote Kipling:

Ah, what avails the classic bent
And what the cultured word
Against the undoctored incident
That actually occurred?

The undoctored incidents are things such as temperatures above 110 day after day in parts of the country, and night time temperatures that don’t go below 90. Of course the same thing happened 800 years ago, or was it ten thousand, or 500,000? Agreed. But it’s happening now, for its own reasons, not those of 800 etc. years ago. And the reason is not far to seek. We are dumping millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year, year after year. CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

The position to which this web site is dedicated is one that can be defended only with more and more brazen intellectual dishonesty, and less and less regard for the welfare and safety of the human race.

Reply to  John Frederick
July 18, 2023 8:02 pm

Well written. Cultured, more elegant than the usual post. Cluelessly wrong, but well written.

Reply to  John Frederick
July 18, 2023 8:38 pm

Now all you have to do is present evidence that CO2 has caused this warming.

Actual scientific evidence, not models, not vague correlation.

We can wait.

And NO.. what you are experiencing, and falling for, is a massive ramping up of media HYSTERICS.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 19, 2023 8:32 am

not tree ring thermometers and the likes of Saint Greta preaching panic to the UN, then getting a doctorate in theology- and the likes of Al Gore saying the oceans are boiling- it’s pretty obvious which side has all the crackpots

Reply to  bnice2000
July 20, 2023 5:57 am

What warming?
All we have is a fact free assertion from a warmista.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 22, 2023 3:46 am

“Now all you have to do is present evidence that CO2 has caused this warming.”

That’s all we ask.

We’ve been asking climate change alarmists to provide evidence that CO2 is causing harm for many years and to date, no evidence has ever been produced.

If you have such evidence, please produce it, and then you will win the argument.

Until you, or someone, does produce evidence, people here will continue to be skeptical of the whole idea.

Reply to  John Frederick
July 18, 2023 8:42 pm

Cold records set all around the globe only last year..

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/07/17/john-kerry-devastated-at-house-hearing-on-climate-by-scott-perry/#comment-3750917

…. and two continued posts after that

Did you get them yelled at you ?

Did you even know about them ?

Reply to  John Frederick
July 19, 2023 12:18 am

The position to which this web site is dedicated is one that can be defended only with more and more brazen intellectual dishonesty, and less and less regard for the welfare and safety of the human race.

Guess you better stay in the basement, less you melt away..

 And the reason is not far to seek. We are dumping millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year, year after year. CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

And that dumping is increasing, year on year! I like coal, gas and oil, I like them a lot! – Drilling, Mining, Burning — The Holy Trinity. — May the great God of Fossil Fuels be with you, comfort you and give your strength.

Reply to  John Frederick
July 19, 2023 4:04 am

Absolute rubbish. If the ‘millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere’ was having the effect you describe, then it would have the same effect everywhere at once. Instead of which, Europe is warm and the UK is unseasonably cold, parts of the USA are warm some are unseasonably cold. This is weather, there is nothing too remarkable about it – we’ve had warmer weather in some areas and colder weather in some areas, this is what happens with weather.

John Frederick
Reply to  Richard Page
July 19, 2023 5:51 am

Increasing levels of CO2 cause an overall average increase in the earth’s surface temperature, But the extra heat is distributed unevenly by weather patterns of various sorts. .

Reply to  John Frederick
July 19, 2023 3:42 pm

Now you are talking mantra nonsense. You have been brain-washed.

There is no evidence that enhanced atmospheric CO2 causes warming.

You are welcome to present some scientific evidence.

We are waiting… and waiting… and waiting

Reply to  John Frederick
July 20, 2023 5:59 am

There is no extra heat.
Stop making stuff up.
Do you enjoy scaring children with harmful lies?
Why are you a willing member of a doomsday cult?

Reply to  Richard Page
July 19, 2023 8:34 am

and now we can instantly know of the weather all over the planet- every day there is going to be some “extreme weather event” somewhere on the planet and it’s always been that way when we only knew what the weather was on our farm

Simon Derricutt
Reply to  John Frederick
July 19, 2023 7:31 am

John – probably the majority of people would agree with you there, but note that science is not about consensus (that’s politics) but about what the data says. If you only look at the data on a relatively short-term, then you can see that the Global Average Temperatures correlate fairly well with the CO2 concentration (though a bit of a problem with the “pause” over the last decade or so). On the other hand, if you looked at the period from around 1940-1970, you’ll see an anti-correlation (and indeed in the ’70s we were hearing Climate Scientists telling us we could expect a new glaciation to have occurred by now). If you go back 1000 years, when the Vikings were farming in Greenland (archaeological evidence) then it was obviously a fair amount warmer than now. Back another 1000 years, in the Roman Warm Period, and there’s evidence of grapes being grown in the UK near Hadrian’s Wall, so again a fair amount warmer than now. No major CO2 changes are seen in the data for these events.

Though correlation doesn’t imply causation, a lack of correlation does show that there’s not a causal relationship – look up the CO2 concentration (from ice cores) over the last few thousand years. Going back further, and with a broader scale, you do see a correlation, but where the temperature changes some 900 years or so before the CO2 level changes.

Given that around 98% of the free CO2 on this planet is dissolved in the ocean, and that the solubility is very temperature-dependent, it’s easy to see why a temperature change of the ocean will result in a change of concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. If an increase in CO2 in the atmosphere caused a temperature rise in the ocean, we would have a positive-feedback loop that would result in any deviation from the (unstable) equilibrium causing an ever-greater temperature change in that direction, either to ice-ball or boiling-hot. Obviously, that didn’t happen, or we wouldn’t be here talking about the possibilities, given that in the distant past the CO2 level in the atmosphere was over an order of magnitude greater than now. In fact, from a system control point of view, the Earth’s average temperature is surprisingly stable (use absolute temperature here), which tells us that there is a lot of negative feedback.

Net result, for me, is that CO2 isn’t a problem. Rather lucky, since China and India are going to be increasing their outputs of it for the foreseeable future (you believe they’ll cease by 2060?). What will stop them is when they mine out the available resources, or if something better and cheaper comes along. Looking at the previous rate of technological advances, and seeing that it’s exponential, makes me think that such advances will happen well before we actually run out of fossil fuels.

You may find it worth looking at articles by Willis Eschenbach here, where he analyses the data available. For example https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/09/15/cooling-the-hothouse/
Also looking at the “failed predictions” in the header. As Feynman said, if the predictions are wrong then your theory is wrong. If the climate system worked the way the models suggest, then it would vary a lot more than it does. The Earth’s orbit is eccentric, and the Sun also orbits around the barycentre of the Solar system, so the actual radiation we receive varies by several percent. The TSI figure published by NASA is for some location that is and remains at 1AU from the Sun, and we actually receive a different intensity.

I’ve lived through a large number of “End of the World As We Know It” predictions, and all I’ve seen is that there’s less poverty and people on average have a longer healthy life.

Maybe, like me a dozen years ago, think that all those people in authority couldn’t be so badly mistaken about the effects of CO2. Still, if you go and dig in the data, you’ll find that they are thus mistaken. WUWT just points that out. Unlike a lot of climate-related sites pushing the ideas we’re heading for disaster, it allows dissent so you can comment here.

Reply to  Simon Derricutt
July 22, 2023 3:57 am

Excellent comment, Simon.

Reply to  John Frederick
July 19, 2023 8:30 am

OK, makes sense- so let’s spend umpteen quadrillion dollars to dismantle our civilization and cover the planet with wind and solar systems. That shows much more regard for the welfare and safety of the human race. You need a good dose of the likes of Stephan Koonin and Alex Epstein. Look’em up, my little grasshopper.

Reply to  John Frederick
July 19, 2023 9:44 am

“We are dumping millions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year, year after year. CO2 is a greenhouse gas.”

Well, humans are dumping billions of tons of H2O into the atmosphere every year, year after year, via evaporation of liquid water used for irrigation of outside fields to grow food crops and other plants, maintaining landscaping (e.g., watering lawns), cooling of power plants, and maintaining the huge surface areas of dam reservoirs.

Water vapor is by far the strongest of all greenhouse gases in Earth’s atmosphere due its orders-of-magnitude higher concentration levels and the fact that it has extraordinarily wide absorption bands in the IR spectrum, many of which overlap those of CO2.

But perhaps you consider these scientific facts to be just so much “elegant sophistry”?

Reply to  John Frederick
July 20, 2023 5:56 am

Show us some actual data from which you are making these ridiculous claims.
Until you do, we have your word for it.
Because I guarantee you, post your source, and I will prove you are wrong.

Reply to  John Frederick
July 20, 2023 4:15 pm

Millions of tons? It’s actually billions of tons, yet they still only give the figure as parts per million. Apart from the fact that this is the usual metric for toxins, so they are using it to ‘nudge’ you, what you are never given is context. There are thousands of trillions of tons of air surrounding this planet, so what you have is a very small drop in a very large bucket. So all the fuss is about the increase from 170 years ago of 280 ppm, to the current 420 ppm. Convert that into a percentage, and you discover that the nature of the atmosphere has changed by 14 thousandths of 1 percent. In 170 years!! If you truly think that this change is driving this planet into thermal runaway I have a bridge to sell you. We actually have more regard for the human race than Gates, Gore, Kerry, Mann, Biden and all their friends. They are the charlatans. They are the true evil.

Robert Keon
July 18, 2023 7:38 pm

The block is coming from the Google browser. No block occurs when using my iPhone via Safari or with my W11 PC using Edge. The block only occurs on my W7 PC using Brave which is a derivative of the Google browser.

Reply to  Robert Keon
July 18, 2023 8:11 pm

I’ve run into this block before. I think google/yootube looks at the referring web site – WUWT – and blocks based on our unvarnished record of blatant climate misinformation and radical screaming denialism. I have beaten the block by copying the link (right-click menu) and then pasting it into a new tab, thus no referring url involved.

We should do simultaneous posts on both youtube and Rumble.

Robert B
July 19, 2023 3:40 am

I lived in a town that had two 123 F + days in a row in 1906. In a semiarid region of Australia who’s highest temp at the current airport site is 116.5 F. There have been plenty of excuses to ignore the early temps, and they are most likely slightly higher than if recorded at the new site using modern equipment, but it does highlight how subjective choices have a huge bearing on what is presented as objective evidence.

July 19, 2023 4:30 am

Old issues of NASA’s GISTEMP Land Ocean Temperature Index (LOTI) found at the Way Back Machine compared to what GISTEMP publishes today shows an ever increasing trend produced by the monthly corrections. This month they made 384 corrections. Over time the trend tends to change:

GISTEMP June 2023.png
Reply to  Steve Case
July 19, 2023 4:37 am

Let’s see if that can be made less fuzzy:

GISTEMP June 2023.png
Reply to  Steve Case
July 20, 2023 6:03 am

That is adjusted data.
It is pure hogwash.
2001 was after the really big alterations.
And it mixes in purely made-up ocean temps with land-based measurements.
The fact that they keep changing it ever more is small potatoes, compared to the fact that it is 100% meaningless as a source of info on any actual measured temperature time series.

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 22, 2023 4:12 am

“And it mixes in purely made-up ocean temps with land-based measurements.”

Yes, the temperature data mannipulators have to inject bogus sea surface temperatures into the “global temperature” mix because if they only use the land surface temperature records, then the temperature profile shows it was just as warm in the Early Twentieth Century as it is today, so to create their bogus Hockey Stick temperature profile, they added in bogus sea surface temperatures which cooled the past all the way back to the end of the Little Ice Age, thus making it appear that today is the “hottest day evah!”.

If it was just as warm in the Early Twentieth Century as it is today, then that means we are not experiencing unprecedented warming today, as the climate alarmists claim, and must have, to make their case.

More CO2 today, yet it is no warmer than in the past when there was less CO2. Therefore, CO2 is, at best, a minor player in the Earth’s atmosphere.

July 19, 2023 6:59 am

97,513 now. Let’s get to 6 figures…

maureen1955
July 19, 2023 7:11 am

What is missing from most of the ‘data’ that is used, is the 1930s. Saskatchewan (Canadian prairies) still has records from that decade. My mother grew up in Saskatchewan during that time, and she often recalled the number of small children who died of heat stroke in her community.

One of the big mistakes that is used in recording ‘data’ is using the temperature readings from sites that should have been abandoned years ago. When the meter was installed 60 years ago it was in an OK location, but in those 60 years, the surrounding environment has changed – too many buildings, some are next to exhaust pipes etc. Their readings are biased. Anthony Watts did a huge review of this a couple of years ago, but I wonder how many of those meters were abandoned?

Plus the concept of an ‘average’ global temperature is silly and a huge misuse of stats. Averages are only useful when all the data point in the original data is very close, but if you have outliers an average is useless. I walk my dog at 6 a.m. (because in his mind that is pee o’clock) – there has only been ONE day that I have not worn my light winter jacket. And some of those days, even that jacket was not warm enough. Summer in Regina, Saskatchewan has not been overly warm – we have had a few hots days (gee it is July on the Canadian prairies – duh!) but nothing what would lead to summer being called a heat wave

Reply to  maureen1955
July 19, 2023 8:38 am

“some are next to exhaust pipes”
Including jet engines, as reported in previous articles on this site.

Reply to  maureen1955
July 19, 2023 3:48 pm

 I walk my dog at 6 a.m.”

My dog refuses to go for a walk while there is frost on the grass..

… looks like around 9am this morning !

NotChickenLittle
July 19, 2023 8:49 am

If you do a search for
are more extreme weather events happening
…it is disheartening to see how many hits there are answering in the affirmative, but without presenting any real evidence or data. But there are a few that attempt to set the record straight.
The lies from the left must be continually fought. Sadly most people see only the lies and not the truth. Thanks for sites like this and a few others that help to present the facts!

Reply to  NotChickenLittle
July 22, 2023 4:21 am

“it is disheartening to see how many hits there are answering in the affirmative, but without presenting any real evidence”

That’s because there is no such evidence that CO2 is overheating the planet. So the alarmist “journalists” just pretend there is evidence, or if they are really dumb, actually think there is evidence, but as you noted, they never produce any, and again, that’s because there is no evidence of this to produce, so if they think there is evidence, they are fooling themselves along with some of their readers.

There is not one shred of evidence showing CO2 is doing anything to the Earth’s atmosphere. CO2 may be doing something, but it is so minimal that we cannot spot it, and present it as evidence. If we cannot spot it, then we shouldn’t be worrying about it.

Neo
July 19, 2023 9:32 am

You mean to say that the YouTube ecosystem was threaten by that video.

rah
July 19, 2023 12:35 pm
Reply to  rah
July 22, 2023 4:32 am

It was reported yesterday that Aldean’s song has hit number one on the iTunes list.

All Aldean was saying is you won’t see the leftwing riots in small towns because the people in small towns won’t put up with it.

The radical Left doesn’t like it when their violent rioting is criticized, so they try to make Aldean out to be a racists.

Yeah, radical Leftists, come to my small hometown and try that violent stuff. You’ll be seeing the inside of jail cell real quick, if you are lucky. You want to destroy our town? No, sir! As George H.W. Bush used to say: “Nogadaw” (not going to do that).

Yeah, radical Leftists don’t like their violence and mayhem being criticized. When that happens, they attack, attack, attack. And their usual method of verbal attack is to call the target a racist.

Aldean should tell them to go to Hell. Where they belong.

ResourceGuy
July 19, 2023 1:02 pm

I’m going to mow the yard in the heat. Will I get climate reparations for that, or does it require special organizational representation with lobbying/fundraising?

Maybe the science cheaters can elaborate on getting to high places with altered data.

story tip

Stanford President Marc Tessier-Lavigne to resign following findings of manipulation in academic research | CNN

Reply to  ResourceGuy
July 19, 2023 3:44 pm

I was going to mow the lawn this morning..

… but will have to wait until the frost dissipates

ResourceGuy
July 19, 2023 2:30 pm

Maybe they can use the heat to blame for mass transit fails when private transport is banned.

story tip

Why is SEPTA canceling trains? Here’s the reason and it might get worse. (yahoo.com)

July 19, 2023 3:30 pm

Google (owners of YouTube) is a company stridently committed to evil. Read up about their collaborations with the Communist Party of China, the most evil organization on Earth, and you’ll find this sort of despicable censorship is a pretty minor evil deed for them.

Gino
July 19, 2023 5:31 pm

For the last 5 days or so Drudge has had “HOTTEST DAYS EVAHHHHH” as it’s headline….today…crickets. But that is how it goes…..screech for days then silence. The only thing peoiple remember is the screeching not the actual numbers. Just the headlines baby.

July 20, 2023 5:41 am

Seems very tepid as a response to a pack of dangerous lies intended to dupe the gullible and scare kids.

July 20, 2023 1:04 pm

What’s with this smackdown of the Heartland Institute? My nephew sent me the link. I need something to counter it. Must be a counter to it out there somewhere.

https://www.desmog.com/heartland-institute/

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 21, 2023 12:24 am

Popular Technology.net: The Truth about DeSmogBlog

DeSmogBlog is a smear site founded by a scientifically unqualified public relations man, James Hoggan and funded by a convicted money launderer, John Lefebvre. The irony here is their favorite tactic is to attempt to smear those they disagree with as funded by “dirty money”. Since its creation in 2006 the site has done nothing but post poorly researched propaganda with a clear intent to smear respected scientists, policy analysts or groups who dare oppose an alarmist position on global warming. Their articles frequently reference unreliable sources such as Wikipedia and Sourcewatch since they are unable to find any fact based criticisms of those they attack in respected news sources.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 21, 2023 4:48 am

Thanks!

observa
July 20, 2023 9:32 pm

Even though we’re really chilling out at present we’re gunna drop like flies next summer-
European heatwaves a warning for scorchers Down Under (msn.com)

Reply to  observa
July 22, 2023 4:39 am

The End is Nigh!

climategrog
July 21, 2023 2:27 am

So the bottom line here is that this so called “record” temperature is NOT the global temperature record at all it is NCEP reanalysis ( which is an opaque term in itself ).

I spent quite some time when I saw these claims in the Guardian, following their links to their own propaganda before I found a reference to what data they were actually basing the claims on. Then some more chasing before I got NCEP and found it was a “reanalysis” and not the usual temperature record.

If there really was a “crisis” they would not need to continually lie trick and mislead in order to convince people.