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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-issues-20-year-oil-drilling-ban-ignoring-pleas-native-americans
Biden wants to protect Native Americans. Native Americans are vocal that they don’t want nor need protection.
It would be annoying to have my peer group constantly used as an excuse for anything – whether or not I thought whatever thing was good or bad. Certain people seem to have coopted Native American culture as a way to stop activities they don’t want. If I were Native American I’d tell them to stuff it.
Similar coopt’ings seemed to happen in the aughts to both the Tea Party and the anti-one-percenters. One minute someone’s mad about investment banks, the next minute a retired Grateful dead fan is unrolling a blanket full of leather bags and bootleg B-movie CDs to sell on the sidewalk beside them, then they end up on MSNBC answering questions about tattoo preferences and global warming. Huh? They were just mad about having to work 5 more years to refill the 401k.
Here’s a question: The Global Warming Potential numbers are based on the current concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. So what if the Global Warming Potential were computed based on the concentration of water vapor in the atmosphere?
It is said that water vapor is about ~2.5% and causes about 33% of the greenhouse effect. There are some web pages that address the climate sensitivity of methane Here and Here So it can be figured out that methane’s GWP using water vapor as a standard would be maybe ~4,000 times more powerful at trapping heat than Water Vapor My post from a few days ago.
It’s a sure bet that the GWP numbers are entirely based on the concentration of the reference gas making the GWP numbers meaningless.
Something illogical might have happened in editing – I can’t tell what I’m supposed to have learned. Water vapor is important too? Water vapor is the most important? Methane? I don’t know.
Thanks for the reply(-: The point is that when CO2 is the standard, methane is 86 times more powerful than CO2. But if water vapor were to be used as the standard, then methane becomes 4000 times more powerful than water vapor. BUT! Isn’t water vapor is the strongest greenhouse gas?
It doesn’t make any sense. The GWP numbers just like Michel Mann’s hockey stick use an algorism designed to produce large numbers.
And for this the Climate wants to regulate cattle ranches, dairy farms and rice cultivation.
Where is Jane Fonda to comfort the families during the policy distracted climate crisis?
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More than 18,000 people died in Scotland last year while on NHS waiting lists | The Scottish Sun
At least it’s free.
The population of Scotland is estimated to be 5.53 million.
The population of the United States is estimated to be 333.3 million.
An equivalent death toll for the US would be 1.085 million deaths.
Wow. Select “Yes” for organ donor.
But it is not free. They pay dearly for their healthcare system: 18K deaths
while waiting in a queue, PLUS very high taxes.
Google “medical tourism” [a response to the queue, for those that can afford it]
Maybe Hanoi Jane was handing off the notes for help to the Scottish over-seers?