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March 5, 2023 2:27 am

When is the average person in fact a far right, anti-vax, covid denying Tory? 

When they’re opposed to the expansion of Sadiq Khan’s ULEZ, of course. Khan held a ‘People’s Question Time’ at Ealing Town Hall and he was true to form.

“Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has described protesters rallying against the ultra-low emission zone expansion as far right, Covid deniers and Tories.”

Khan said: “What I find unacceptable is some of those who’ve got legitimate objections [about ULEZ] joining hands with some of those outside, who are part of a far-right group.” He added: “Let’s be frank, let’s call a spade a spade. Some of those outside are part of the far right. Some are Covid deniers, some are vaccine deniers and some are Tories.”

“He repeated the claim a second time, saying some opponents of ULEZ have legitimate reasons while others are in coalition with those denying Covid and the efficacy of vaccines as well as the far-right.

Mr Khan’s comments sparked a social media storm with the Labour mayor accused of labelling anyone who opposes ULEZ as far-right, Covid or vaccine deniers.

After Mr Khan’s comments, the volume of heckling inside the room grew to the point where the chair threatened to break up the meeting.

The Conservatives’ Deputy Leader at City Hall, Peter Fortune, took a shot at Mr Khan, saying: “If you disagree with the mayor he’s going to paint you as far-right.

“He is going to say you are a flat-Earther. He doesn’t want to address the fact you’ve got legitimate concerns.” Mr Hall went on to claim Mr Khan never talks about the financial impact of ULEZ on people, saying “the reality is he’s filling a financial hole in TfL” (Transport for London).”

I predict a summer of discontent

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Ben Vorlich
Reply to  strativarius
March 5, 2023 3:27 am

The motorist is always a soft target for governments, national and local, in need of funds. At some point the worm will turn. At the moment Khan is driving people away from London and Rees-Mogg is bemoaning bureaucrats working from home.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
March 5, 2023 4:44 am

It’s because car drivers are all = Toads.
Selfish, loathsome, ugly and toxic creatures as described in the mandatory schoolbook; Wind in the Willows
But their real defining feature is that they’re all insanely rich and live in mansions.
This of course being what everyone desperately wants to be but haven’t a hope in hell of actually being.

So the childish politics of the school playground apply,
If someone has something that I want but cannot have, trash theirs

And then lie lie lie about why you’re doing it
The very definition of Socialism

Khan should be grilled mercilessly on that: Exactly what is he implying with that Far Right verbiage?
Being aware that Far Right is totally indistinguishable from Far Left

Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 5, 2023 4:58 am

car drivers are all = Toads.”

Gosh, Peta. Love you too.

Reply to  strativarius
March 5, 2023 4:05 am

Mr Khan sounds like he could use a dose of his own medicine. I’d suggest Midazolam.

Reply to  strativarius
March 5, 2023 5:02 am

Khan tells us there were Nazis on the doorstep with no evidence despite photographers being present

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  strativarius
March 5, 2023 5:21 am

Khan is a despicable bigot and should be removed from office.

Reply to  strativarius
March 5, 2023 6:28 am

When opposing views get censored, ridiculed, and opponents are character attacked as deniers, fascists and Nazis, the government a is totalitarian rule by “experts” system. They will micromanage your life … and often ignore their own rules.

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Reply to  strativarius
March 5, 2023 9:16 am

Mr Khan would doubtless call me Tory scum but in point of fact I can find no common cause with the conservative party and regard all political parties as either completelyand woefully ignorant, or just plain evil pretending to be stupid, or some combination of both. On the day that ULEZ puts Greater London outside my reach (living just outside Richmond borough, and driving a 2012 diesel) I will start driving a bicycle with a bloody great trailer to do my business obstructing roads and doing 10 mph down dual carriageway roads. If other like minded people join me in this we will clog up the highways and put all the Teslas and other supposedly compliant vehicles off the roads.and bring the whole of greater London to a standstill.
In Central London we have a Congestion charge zone which is eminently sensible as to my way of thinking you would need to be brain dead to think about driving a car in central London. However the ULEZ extension to Greater London makes no sense as emissions have been falling since monitoring started in the sixties. Air quality in London is in fact pretty good and never showed any uptick with the a widespread adoption of Diesel engine cars.
I call on all like minded citizens to get on your bikes with or without trailers to make a quiet protest

Dave Andrews
Reply to  strativarius
March 6, 2023 6:15 am

“The reality is he’s filling in a financial hole in TfL”

Yep. The earlier expansion of the ULEZ brought in £93m for Transport for London (TfL) in the first 11 months of operation. Nothing to do with improving air quality.

James Snook
March 5, 2023 3:37 am

Mid morning in the U.K., solar and wind are contributing 10% of our demand (despite having the largest fleet of offshore turbines in the World) and we are importing 20% through interconnectors from the Continent and Norway.

You really couldn’t make it up!

Reply to  James Snook
March 5, 2023 4:12 am

Ignoring solar because you mention the size of the wind turbine estate particularly, the picture is even worse. Wind is currently meeting 3.7% of demand.

As for the interconnects, you are right about the fraction of demand they’re meeting, but also note they’re all maxed out. There’s nothing left. (Happily nuclear stepped back up to its usual 5% late last week).

This is a vivid illustration of why gas turbines must never go away unless we want to end our days shivering alone, in the dark.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  James Snook
March 5, 2023 4:33 am

It’s really lucky it’s Sunday and demand is only 36GW

Because I’ve never seen CCGT go beyond 23G (presently 18.2G) so that’s the only real spare capacity we have left = less than 5G

If this had been a cold (working) weekday evening of 5 or 6 weeks ago of perfectly no solar and where demand is/was/typically 45 or 46G – the UK would be in power deficit of 7 or 8GW

Made worse by domestic rooftop solar. Even though it’s grey/cloudy today, my 3.5kW panels are still making 500Watts and are taking that much off apparent demand

Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 5, 2023 5:28 am

They’ve forecast a cold week ahead. With that in mind I’ve stocked up on wood and coal.

I wonder how much that takes off the grid?

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Dave Andrews
Reply to  strativarius
March 6, 2023 6:21 am

Don’t worry they’re making increasingly hysterical noises about coming for the wood burners, especially in the larger conurbations 🙂

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 5, 2023 3:53 pm

I’ve been impressed how well low wind and low demand have worked in tandem this winter.

I think the wind is going to get a bit stronger tomorrow

David Dibbell
March 5, 2023 3:57 am

Models. What are they good for? I think the ERA5 reanalysis is good for illustrating the highly variable conditions we experience down here. It is important to look at the hourly values, not just long-term averages and trends, to understand what is happening. Here is a scatter plot of downwelling longwave radiation received at the surface in W/m^2, vs. total column water in kg/m^2, for all hours of 2019, for a single gridpoint near where I live.

Notice it is all about water, and its variation as vapor and clouds above us. The dynamic motion of the atmosphere, which drives the variation in water vapor and clouds, constantly erases whatever trace incremental influence of slow trends in non-condensing GHGs might be in there.

Here are links to the hourly total water and the downwelling longwave time series plots separately.

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Reply to  David Dibbell
March 5, 2023 4:34 am

“Models. What are they good for?”

Looking good while displaying expensive tat on a catwalk, BUT on close inspection full of flaws hidden by layers of camouflage (makeup) to appear as something they are not.

Much like the climate models.

Reply to  David Dibbell
March 5, 2023 4:35 am

Good analysis.

This is the key but alarmists obscure cause and effect. They tie changes in water vapor to temperature and of course that on CO2. The complexity of clouds allows them to continue to play this game.

David Dibbell
Reply to  Scissor
March 5, 2023 1:23 pm

Agree. The circular reasoning makes attribution of warming to GHGs the only possible outcome of the emissions scenarios, as the “forcing + feedback” framing of the GHG response is baked into the models.

I appreciate the reanalysis models because there is no pretense of prediction or “projection.”

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Reply to  David Dibbell
March 5, 2023 5:07 am

“Models. What are they good for?

To the cause (h/t Michael Mann) they are essential. They provide ‘authoritative’ evidence that what the alarmists claim is true – well, could be, might be, may be, possibly be etc; which is still 97% as far as they’re concerned.

Without the models they have nothing.

David Dibbell
Reply to  strativarius
March 5, 2023 1:07 pm

And even with the models, they have nothing. But many don’t realize the model-based claims have zero authority.

Reply to  David Dibbell
March 5, 2023 9:46 am

you need to colour the dots depending on cloud cover and see if anything shows up.

David Dibbell
Reply to  DMacKenzie
March 5, 2023 1:03 pm

Interesting idea. I suppose the clear sky would be bunched toward the lower left.

David Dibbell
Reply to  DMacKenzie
March 5, 2023 5:53 pm

Your idea made me curious enough to learn how to do conditional colors today. I did not have the tcc (total cloud cover) values for 42.5N, but I did for 45N. So this is a different gridpoint, otherwise similar. Color code is in the plot.

Paul Stevens
Reply to  David Dibbell
March 5, 2023 4:51 pm

That should have been:
“Models, Hunh! (pause)
What are they good for,
absolutely nothing.”

David Dibbell
Reply to  Paul Stevens
March 6, 2023 3:19 am

It seems you have missed the point. It’s true that the models offer “absolutely nothing” to reliably determine the climate response to increasing concentrations of non-condensing GHGs. But on the other hand, we can use the models themselves to visually illustrate the problem of attribution, when water vapor and clouds produce such highly variable energy flows so as to overwhelm the static “forcing” effect.

March 5, 2023 5:10 am

I’ve made this point 1,000x and this video should be featured on every Climate Change Website. Finally, someone applied the scientific method to scientific data.

Malcolm Roberts of Queensland

Jim Gorman
March 5, 2023 5:16 am

I just read a comment on Quora about the James Webb telescope having damage. A fellow posted a very good answer to it and his answer also included a statement about data handling. I thought it was appropriate to how temperature data is being mishandled in climate science.

Tim Cole
Astronomy educator, former engineer in the aerospace sector 

“A flawed reply here promotes an unfortunately common misconception that image processing is some kind of “cheating”. This is wildly incorrect. Every photographic image — including ones from your own cameras — have been processed. It’s the only way to render the data from the image sensor into something you can see. Some people will assume that compensating for aberrations is skullduggery, but in fact every optical system has aberrations. The JWST, fresh from the clean room, had them. You keep track of them, and note how they change over time. You compensate for the defects as best you can, work only with copies while keeping the original images pristine, and carefully document everything you did. This procedure is what keeps image processing from being skullduggery.”

This is how science is supposed to work! Work only with copies, and carefully document everything you did when making changes!

Every “official temperature data record” should only be shown in its pristine state as the official documentation. Any processed data should require direct requests from the researcher for that specific data so that the researcher knows what they are receiving. The changes made should be well documented and those using the processed data should be required to declare such in any conclusions.

To paraphrase Mr. Cole’s answer. You keep track of calibration and microclimate changes over time and document them. Researchers compensate for them as best they can, but publicize changed data, along with proper documentation. This procedure is what keeps temperature processing from being skullduggery!

Governments making undocumented changes to temperature data via homogenization and infilling behind the scenes in order to isolate researchers from needing to document the changes IS skullduggery! Adjusting past station data in order to CREATE long records IS skullduggery.

Allan MacRae
March 5, 2023 5:38 am

I already proved that the Covid-19 “vaccines” were not safe. Based on Alberta total death data, my estimate of worldwide deaths to 31Dec2022 from these toxic Covid-19 injections is 13 million to end2022, increasing to 19 million by end2023, unless we take steps ASAP to treat the vaxxed. That 13 million estimate was recently confirmed by Rancourt et al (Feb2023).
Twitterspeak – Post it everywhere:

The toxic Covid-19 “vaccines” have now killed ~650,000 Americans, ~50% more than all the U.S. Armed Forces killed or missing in World War II. If we continue as-is, and do not act to treat the vaxx-injured, total estimated U.S. vaxx-caused deaths will exceed 1 million by end2023.The toxic Covid-19 “vaccines” have now killed ~98,000 Canadians, more than two times all the Canadian Armed Forces killed in World War II. If we continue as-is, and do not act to treat the vaxx-injured, total estimated Canadian vaxx-caused deaths will exceed ~140,000 by end2023. The following graph, cited by Epidemiologist Dr Paul Alexander, proves that these vaccines are NOT EFFECTIVE either – the most jabs you get, the more likely you are to catch Covid-19!

Quelle surprise! Remember “Safe and Effective”? Our medical authorities, politicians and “elites” could not have been more wrong! Some of them knew all along. Nuremberg 2.0!

Regards, Allan MacRae, Calgary
Dr. Paul Alexander
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Forty-five-day-old Baby Alex died of a clot so long it extended from his left knee to his heart.
That was twenty-four days after staff at Providence Sacred Heart Children’s Hospital in Spokane, Washington, had administered a transfusion using blood from vaccinated donors—explicitly against parents’ wishes.
– Dr Paul Alexander, 24Dec2022
“If you think this is anything to do with health and a virus, you are delusional.”
Dr Mark Trozzi 3Mar2023
I correctly identified the Covid-19 scam three years ago in Feb2020 and published on 21Mar2020. It looked a lot like the Climate scam – same false hysteria, same corrupt proponents. I wrote my governments on 8Jan2021 to NOT release the toxic Covid-19 jabs. The death toll is now 1 death in every ~1000 jabs and it’s far from over. If you are vaxxed, get some treatment – now!
Next time I warn you good people, please listen. See

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Allan MacRae
Reply to  Charles Rotter
March 5, 2023 7:15 am

Covid-19-vaxx-caused deaths now total more than two WW2 Holocausts, and going for three by end2023. Boring for you Charles? Not me. I ‘m looking forward to Nuremberg 2.0! Big Pharma, politicians and woke media…

Hans, apologies for the shouting!!! Not really. 🙂

[ˈhäləˌkôst, ˈhōləˌkôst]

  1. destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, especially caused by fire or nuclear war:
  2. “a nuclear holocaust” · “the threat of imminent holocaust”
  4. cataclysm
  5. disaster
  6. catastrophe
  7. destruction
  8. devastation
  • the mass murder of Jewish people under the German Nazi regime during the period 1941–5. More than 6 million European Jews, as well as members of other persecuted groups such as Romani, gay people, and disabled people, were murdered at concentration camps such as Auschwitz.
Reply to  Charles Rotter
March 5, 2023 9:50 am

Fully delusional…

Allan MacRae
Reply to  DMacKenzie
March 5, 2023 10:54 am

“Fully delusional…”

If you’re talking about Charles, he’s just overworked and under-appreciated.

If you’re talking about me, Dr David Martin is talking to you:

“If you think this is anything to do with health and a virus, you are delusional.”
Dr Mark Trozzi 3Mar2023

Reply to  Charles Rotter
March 5, 2023 11:41 am

Put another so in there.

Hans Erren
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 5, 2023 7:02 am

No need to shout to make your point

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Hans Erren
March 7, 2023 11:51 am

Hi Hans,
13 million deaths caused to end 2022 by the toxic Covid-19 vaxxes, and another 6 million people alive today who will be dead from the Covid-19 vaxxes by end 2023.
Every one of these deaths was needless, and I called it correctly 2 and 3 years ago.
I tend to like people, and it is difficult to accept that the above carnage was true, was predicted, and could and should have been prevented.
So I may raise my voice from time to time to protest this great cull of humanity.
Regards, Allan

Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 5, 2023 10:18 am

This is a chilling analysis of deaths in Canadian children in 3 months, and it lacks data from Ontario and Quebec because they refused to release it.

Reply to  Fran
March 5, 2023 10:23 am

Or try Tucker Carlson’s interview with Ed Dowd. The death/disability figures for those in work are now worse than in the non-working population. In the past this group has always been healthier, but these are the people affected by the mandates.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Fran
March 5, 2023 4:17 pm

Thank you Fran for posting:

96 dead Canadian kids, killed by the toxic Covid-19 vaxxes.
I challenge all of you to look at these young, perfect faces. Not boring…
[[Charles – you appear to enjoy this carnage – who is the sociopath now?]]

Here is a highly skilled physician you can trust. His website is:
COVID Intel – by Dr.William Makis | Dr. William Makis MD | Substack

Canada is ~1/10 the size of the USA and the 96 dead kids figure will be low- you can count on at least 1000 dead vaxx-killed American kids and many more. Their cause of death is typically cardiac arrest – the so-called “clot shots” – a small percentage of total vaxx-deaths, which were caused by the destruction of natural immunity by the same toxic Covid-19 “vaccines”.

When the intellectually sluggish majority wakes up and finds they have been poisoned by the toxic Covid-19 vaxxes, those who have lost family and friends to the Covid-19 scam will start going full “Old Testament” on those responsible. While proper Rule of Law would be better, we lost that long ago in the USA and Canada.

Regards, Allan

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 6, 2023 2:20 am

Canada’s two most populous provinces did not report – so you can easily double that death estimate to 2000 American kids killed by the toxic Covid-19 vaxxes. That is a small part of the total USA deaths to date caused by the toxic Covid-19 “vaccines”, which I accurately estimated at 650,000 to 21Dec2022, increasing to 1 million by end 2023 at year-end 2022 rates. 

Globally, I estimate 13 million Covid-19-vaxx–caused deaths to 31DDec2022, increasing to 19 million at year-end 2022 rates. That 13 million estimate was recently confirmed by Rancourt et al (Feb2023). Rancourt’s estimate is one death for every 1000 Covid-19 vaxx doses – I checked their calculations and that’s about right – this ratio will grow worse with time.

The reason that total death data is used in my and Rancourt’s analyses is because it is most difficult to corrupt – the health authorities know what they have done and are eager to hide it, so much of the Covid-19 “adverse reactions” data is hidden or corrupted. These same health authorities in Feb2021 banned physicians from using Ivermectin for the treatment of Covid-19, because it was cheap and it worked much better than the “vaccines” that they were bribed to peddle to a gullible and frightened public. These health authorities will have murdered ~1 million Americans by end2023 and are understandably anxious to hide their crimes.

The above Covid-10-vax-caused death estimates are accurate, independently calculated by me from Alberta total death data and later by Rancourt et al (Feb2023) from Israel and Australia total death data. It’s a simple calculation that anyone can verify – the only time-consuming part is extracting the Alberta total death data and reformatting it. Here is the Canada data.
Provisional weekly death counts, by age group and sex (

It is safe to say that anyone who questions these analyses has not run the numbers and is just running his mouth. Motives are harder to ascribe – some want to deny that they put their families at great risk, others (media) were bribed to cover-up the truth, and others want to escape the death penalty. Fauci and Gates have already jumped off the sinking Covid-19-vaxx-ship – I don’t think that will work for them. USA total death from the toxic Covid-19 “vaccines” exceeded many months ago the 407,316 American total dead and missing from WW2. I look forward to the justice of Nuremberg 2.0.
Watch this video – David Martin is highly competent:
“If you think this is anything to do with health and a virus, you are delusional.”
Dr Mark Trozzi 3Mar2023

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Allan MacRae
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 6, 2023 4:11 pm

Small yay! Common sense from Health Canada? That’s new.
Watch the way they manage this climb-down – a controlled retreat – low key…
“Nothing to see here folks. Move on.”
Another rat leaves the sinking Covid-19 scamship.
That nobody is taking anyways…
Sheldon Yakiwchuk
Mar 6, 2023
On March 3, 2023…Public Health Canada it’s COVID-19 Vaccination Booster Dosing recommendations for the spring of 2023…you can find the link to this information →Here.
Crickets from the Legacy Media on this…no big press releases…
Because, for the most part, they’ve basically cancelled them for the bulk of the population…
Of course it was caused by the toxic Covid-19 vaccines (aka “clot shots”) , not the virus – we’ve known since Feb2020 that Covid-19 is mild to asymptomatic in young people and is only dangerous to the very elderly and infirm. This beautiful young girl lost her legs to the toxic vaxx, that she never should have taken. One of my friends also lost his leg to the vaxx. He also didn’t believe me. No Covid-19 vaxx!
I lean towards the COVID gene injection vaccine! You are being lied to, she is being lied to! This may well be vaccine-induced myocarditis with then 3 cardiac arrests & blood clots, cost her her legs
Dr. Paul Alexander 6Mar2023

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Allan MacRae
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 7, 2023 7:28 am

The Lockdown Files (
The UK story of the fear-based manipulation of the public to push the unjustified Covid-19 Lockdowns also played out in the USA, Canada, etc.
Read how most of you were conned by scoundrels. Now you’re vaxxed and many of you are screwed, your immune systems badly compromised.
13 million deaths caused worldwide by the toxic Covid-19 injections, and you still want to argue with me? I see no hope for you.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 12, 2023 4:24 am

13 million people killed worldwide by the Covid-19 “vaccines” to the end of 2022; Another 6 million people alive today will be killed by the toxic vaxxes by end2023.
650,000 Americans were killed by the toxic Covid-19 vaxxes to end2022, and a total of one million Americans will be vaxx-killed before end2023, unless successful treatments are started now.
I wrote our politicians and “bought” media to NOT deploy the toxic Covid-19 “vaccines” on 8Jan2021 – over two years ago.
I called the unjustified, destructive Lockdowns three years ago.
Since 20Nov2022 I have recommended to governments that curative anti-vaxx treatments be started ASAP.
My cruel Ouija Board is starting to work again. Unfortunately:
Humanity will divide into two species: the vaxxed and unvaxxed.
The vaxxed will have shorter lifespans and many more physical and mental health problems.
The vaxxed will seek reproductive assistance from the unvaxxed – sperm and egg donations.
Some will discriminate against the unvaxxed. I will not. I tried to save them.
Vaxxed people are dropping dead daily, including airline pilots.
The WEF already demanded that their attendees fly in planes with unvaxxed pilots.
The unvaxxed will be reluctant to marry or date the vaxxed.
The unvaxxed are already demanding their own blood banks.
Nuremberg 2.0, like its predecessor, will be harsh and just. The creators of this historic cull of humanity will be tried and imprisoned or executed, but it will all be too late. Damage done.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Fran
March 6, 2023 11:11 am

Dr. William Makis MD 6Mar2023
More for you Fran.
Dr. William Makis MD 5Mar2023
Planning a flight soon…
Will take lessons first – How to land a big plane.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 7, 2023 5:56 pm
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 5, 2023 12:49 pm

Alan MacRae;

“If you are vaxed, get some treatment”

What treatments are there?

Allan MacRae
Reply to  BurlHenry
March 5, 2023 5:15 pm

Burl – here is one:
I-PREVENT: Vaccine Injury – FLCCC | Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (

Potential Treatment Approach
(see full protocol for more details, cautions and dosing information)
The primary approach to preventing delayed complications from vaccination is to enhance the body’s ability to eliminate spike protein. This is best achieved by practicing intermittent fasting/time-restricted eating and with a supplement like resveratrol, which activates autophagy and encourages the removal of spike protein. In addition, nattokinase, a naturally derived enzyme, breaks down extracellular spike protein and is a potent fibrinolytic agent, which breaks down blood clots. Furthermore, treating hyperinsulinemia likely limits both endothelial inflammation and carcinogenesis. We have added other interventions to this core treatment approach that likely have additional benefits. These include anti-platelet and fibrinolytic agents, which are central to the prevention of cardiovascular events following vaccination.
A suggested theoretical approach to limit the long-term complications of spike protein:
Intermittent fasting/time-restricted eating combined with a low-carbohydrate, high-fat diet (ketogenic diet), low in Omega-6 vegetable oils.

  • Nattokinase: 100-200 mg twice daily
  • Resveratrol: 500 mg daily
  • Aspirin (ASA): 81 mg daily (in those with low risk of bleeding)
  • Magnesium: 100-400 mg daily
  • Omega-3 fatty acids: 2-4 g daily
  • Co-enzyme Q (CoQ): 200-400 mg/day
  • Melatonin: 3-10 mg at night (slow release/extended release)
  • Bromelain: 500 mg twice daily +/- N-acetyl cysteine (NAC); 600 mg twice daily
  • Berberine: 500-600 mg twice daily

This document is primarily intended to assist healthcare professionals in providing appropriate medical care for patients who have received a COVID-19 vaccine. Patients should always consult a trusted healthcare provider before embarking on any new treatment.
Never disregard professional medical advice because of something you have read on our website and releases. This is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment regarding any patient. Treatment for an individual patient is determined by many factors and thus should rely on the judgment of your pediatrician or qualified healthcare provider. Always seek their advice with any questions you may have regarding your medical condition or health.
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Dr Peter McCullough recommends Nattokinase.

I’ve had success vaxx-injured medical friends with Ivermectin (IVM) – 12mg/day for ~15 days to stop chronic bleeding caused by the toxic Covid-19 vaxxes. IVM was banned .in Feb2021 by health authorities for Covid-19 treatment because it is cheap and it works – we’ve cured people really sick with Covid-19 in 5 days with IVM.

No personal experience with IVM because I am Covid-19 unvaxxed – I identified the Covid-19 scam in Feb2020. Never caught Covid-19 and haven’t been sick, not even a cold, in 3+ years. Good luck.

IVM is hard to buy in North America – still banned by the Covid criminals. I take Quercetin to help build natural immunity – a lesser substitute for IVM in the treatment of Covid-19 etc.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  BurlHenry
March 5, 2023 6:02 pm

Burl: more…

NATTOKINASE used to detoxify from the deleterious pathogenic effect of the COVID mRNA-DNA synthetic SPIKE protein (as well as spike from the virus itself); research evidenceDr. Peter McCullough discusses Nattokinase, I share his potent substack on this important issue & present some research evidence of the potential utility at this time as the science matures & develops


French study using COVID mRNA technology gene injection vaccine (Pfizer) showed i) antibody dependent enhancement of infection (ADEI) & ii) more deaths in fully vaccinated over unvaccinated

More Covid-19 illnesses with the jabs – the Covid-19 clown show:
cleveland-clinic-covid-study.jpg (1170×651) (

Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 5, 2023 9:17 pm

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but you are one mixed up crazy man.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Simon
March 6, 2023 3:54 pm

Thank you Simon – Go vaxx yourself! 🙂

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Allan MacRae
March 8, 2023 8:42 pm

See the Baby Alex story above – killed by a Covid-19-vaxxed blood transfusion..

Pre-Covid-19, I was never an anti-vaxxer nor did I reject blood transfusions. I do now. The entire health system has been corrupted, ruined in three years by scoundrels and imbeciles.

13 million dead worldwide, killed by the Covid-19 vaxxes, 6 million more “to go” this year, and the scoundrels and imbeciles are still saying it’s not happening.

The toxic Covid-19 vaxxes have now killed TWICE as many Canadians as we lost in WW2, and 1.5 times as many Americans as were lost and missing in WW2 – the USA will exceed TWICE before end 2023, and scoundrels say it’s not happening and imbeciles believe them.

We discuss the challenges & Roger is prescient and Dr. McCullough has opined prior; this is a very vexing issue and demands urgent consideration at the least to unpack the key issues to move forward.
Dr Paul Alexander 8Mar2023

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March 5, 2023 6:20 am

I can only wonder how open this open thread really is.

All of my comments on Ukraine and Russia were deleted from the recent article on the subject.

I finally attempted to post just several links to further reading on the subject, mainly at Wikipedia. Also deleted.

I can only wonder what other comments are censored by a Moderator who has full power to delete anything he does not agree with.

I suggest the Moderator needs to be deleted next.

I imagine this complaint will get deleted too?

If you believed only leftists censor opposing views, then think again.

Reply to  Richard Greene
March 5, 2023 6:51 am

I don’t miss comments on war in Ukraine, vaccination, nutrition, music, sex fetishes, cooking, board games, knitting, classic car restoration, or most other non-climate topics here. I know where to look for those things when the mood takes me. The moderator keeping this place mostly on-topictheme is fine with me. I’ll have a problem if I find out he’s removing dissenting climate discussions though.

[Edited for clarification]

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Reply to  quelgeek
March 5, 2023 9:47 am

The topic WAS Russia’s use of energy exports to fund the Ukraine war. How can that war be off topic when it is heh subject of the article?

Fortunately. my short comment about the author’s ridiculous claim that Chinese energy exports were funding their military was allowed.

China is a major energy importer, so that claim (in the article title) was completely false.

The author also failed to mention that US is a major energy exporter, so does that mean the US military is funded by energy exports?

Or are private companies making the profits from energy exports, just like in Russia?

The moderator just permitted a two comments here about Covid vaccinations by Mr. MacRae in this thread, making what I think are ridiculous claims about vaccine deaths (and I am anti-vaccine).

Covid vaccinations should not be off limits on an open thread.

But Mr. Rotter decided to ridicule both comments.

Ridicule is a mild form of censorship.

He could have voted thumbs down on the comments. Or responded to them by attempting to refute something in the comments, but I suppose that was too much trouble?

So it seems it’s okay to delete comments you don’t like, and ridicule commentors you decide to print. That sounds like an autocratic dictator to me, not a fair moderator.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Charles Rotter
March 5, 2023 7:44 pm

I haven’t been on WUWT as long as some. But one of the things that has made it was it is is that moderation has been with a light touch without “censoring” per se.
I’ve had a some of my comments disappear. Some went into the auto-trash bin because of a word used. I remember an early one where I’d posted a years worth of daily highs and lows comparing two different records of the same year. (In other words, 730 records poorly formatted). REP removed it and sent me an email explaining why.
(He liked my point but suggested I try again but make it more “pithy”.)
The Mods here are human. Good humans. Would you prefer an AI?

Reply to  Charles Rotter
March 6, 2023 1:05 am

Sorry Charles, I often do not check mu three email accounts every day.

But the fact is that every comment I’ve ever made here criticizing the Ukraine military for a genocide of 11,000 Russian speaking Ukrainians, from 2014 to 2022, has been deleted as if that history is off limits here.

Why is the truth off limits?.

The recent article WAS about Russia funding their military with energy exports, and their military is being used in Ukraine.

Why is it that readers here can not hear another point of view of why Russia entered Ukraine and then ONLY occupies the Easterm Donbas region where there had been a genocide?

I suppose this comment will be deleted for daring to mention the killing inside Ukraine during the 2014 to 2022 period.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Charles Rotter
March 6, 2023 3:11 am

Charles wrote: “I make fun of them because he behaves like a sociopath.”

Charles, you should look up the definition of sociopath before you toss it around. I just lightly dismiss you from time to time when you act like an offensive jerk.

Having dealt with true sociopaths several times in my career, I tread carefully around them.

If you offend a real sociopath, he will destroy you and those you love and he will be indifferent to your suffering or will enjoy it.

In my Kazakstan project which I managed for two years, later called PetroKazakstan, I handled two armed hostage crises, and there was no bloodshed and no authorities were involved. 

American Paul Tatum, a friend of a friend (Sam Hammons), did not do as well – his business partner in the Moscow Radisson Slavyanskaya Hotel had him executed – blowing his head off at close range with an assault rifle.

You probably feel safe sitting in your basement moderating wattsup, and you certainly are safe from me, but you should be more careful tossing around terms you don’t understand – you may offend the wrong person.

Hello Anthony and Merry Christmas!
I recommend an excellent book that may help one to understand some of the extremists.
“The Sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout, 2005

Regards, Allan

Excerpt: “The Sociopath Next Door”
I trust that imagining yourself as any of these people feels insane to you, because such people are insane, dangerously so. Insane but real – they even have a label. Many mental health professionals refer to the condition of little or no conscience as “antisocial personality disorder,” a noncorrectable disfigurement of character that is now thought to be present in about 4 percent of the population – that is to say, one in twenty-five people. This condition of missing conscience is called by other names, too, most often “sociopathy,” or the somewhat more familiar term, psychopathy. Guiltlessness was in fact the first personality disorder to be recognized by psychiatry, and terms that have been used at times over the past century include manie sans delire, psychopathic inferiority, moral insanity, and moral imbecility.
According to the current bible of psychiatric labels, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders IV of the American Psychiatric Association, the clinical diagnosis of “antisocial personality disorder” should be considered when an individual possesses at least three of the following seven characteristics:
(1) failure to conform to social norms;
(2) deceitfulness, manipulativeness;
(3) impulsivity, failure to plan ahead;
(4) irritability, aggressiveness;
(5) reckless disregard for the safety of self or others;
(6) consistent irresponsibility;
(7) lack of remorse after having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another person.
The presence in an individual of any three of these “symptoms,” taken together, is enough to make many psychiatrists suspect the disorder.

March 5, 2023 6:24 am

Example of a link to further reading I posted at the Russian energy article that got deleted by the smarmy Moderator. You don’t need to know more than you have already been told by the US mainstream media about the history of Ukraine, he must assume? You already “know” what you are supposed to know.

War in Donbas (2014–2022) – Wikipedia

March 5, 2023 6:33 am

I predict, that within the next 20 years or so, the world, will divide into two camps. The energy rich countries, and the energy poor.

The rich countries, will be Russia, China, India etc. Who will be using oil, gas, coal and nuclear. The poor will be the nut-zero western countries.

It’s patently obvious, that W&S demand vast swathes of land, to accommodate, not a few thousand turbines, but 100s of 1000s. To which the obvious question is, where are they going to get all the materials from, to build these behemoths?

Most of the materials used are getting harder to mine, as resources dwindle, and hence the cost of production will escalate exponentially. The implication of that, of course, is that such technological solutions will become exorbitantly expensive and unaffordable.

But, also the matter of rare earth metals, desperately required to build the turbines i.e. neodymium and dysprosium etc. And where do most of these rare metals reside? Within China.

So as demand increases and hence competition for the materials, the price will either escalate, or those countries, that have the metals will ration them.

I strongly suspect, that China, will use those materials for political and economic control and advantage. Interestingly, China recently bought the rights to Bolivia’s lithium resources, is that telling?

Greta, might have claimed we’d “stolen her childhood”, but those nut-zero zealots might also be responsible for stealing her adulthood as well.

Reply to  bobpjones
March 5, 2023 2:09 pm

But no one has stolen the microphones and cameras, which are always available.

Reply to  bobpjones
March 5, 2023 2:54 pm

If we are lucky, we will live just like the Amish

However, the vast majority of us are not up to working 50 to 60 hour weeks.

Those folks will fall by the wayside, because the government, cradle to grave, Good Samaritan programs would no longer exist

Dave Andrews
Reply to  bobpjones
March 6, 2023 6:55 am

China produces 75% of all lithium-ion batteries for EVs, 70% of cathodes and 85% of anodes.Over half of all lithium, cobalt and graphite processing and refining capacity is in China. The world faces potential shortages of lithium and cobalt as early as 2025. The price of lithium increased by 700% between Jan 2021 and May 2022. (All data from IEA)

Makes sense to China to buy up the rights to Bolivia’s lithium.

March 5, 2023 6:40 am

“Tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers are among those vegetables in scarce supply, largely because of extreme weather affecting harvests in Spain and North Africa.”


Extreme? Or just inclement?

Is it really possible Michael Race thinks characterizing poor growing weather as “extreme” is normal usage? Is there any possiblity he is not responding to editorial direction when he uses such tendentious language?

And the present shortage is not “largely” because of poor growing weather. That is just one of about five factors that have come together in a perfect storm.

At least the article goes on to examine the proximal cause: supermarkets contracts to buy. But only after genuflecting at the alter of man-made climate change.

Possibly I am extra sensitive to this today having been prevented from buying three loose green peppers yesterday because of a “two item” limit. Irritating at any time, but extra irritating as I could have have bought a plastic pack of three no problem. (I just didn’t want to have to rummage through them to find one pack with three I liked the look of.)

I can’t wait till more people are in charge of directing more tiny details of my life—’cos that’s what “good jobs” in the “New Green Economy” probably will turn out to be.

March 5, 2023 6:40 am

I’ll post this on every Open Thread Until we get an acceptable answer. Antarctica is a great control for the urban heat island effect and water vapor. The location is ideal for isolating the impact of CO2 on temperatures. What do you get when you can actually tie the change is CO2 to the change in temperature? CO2 has no impact on temperature…none. Why? Because 15-micron LWIR is consistent with the energy of a -80 C BlackBody. Someone, please explain why temperatures aren’t increasing in Antarctica and the other hot dry, and cold deserts.

No Warming.jpg
Reply to  CO2isLife
March 5, 2023 6:42 am
Reply to  CO2isLife
March 5, 2023 6:50 am

The right answer is CO2 has a COOLING effect on most of Antarctica because of the permanent temperature inversion and high elevation. That cooling completely offsets the local warming of ice shelves and the peninsula from underseas volcanoes.

Some scientists claim the cause is unknown, but the effect has been measured since the 1970s. I believe the following explanation to be the best I have read so far:

“Rising atmospheric carbon dioxide actually cools much of Antarctica
Local weather conditions, altitude to blame for counterintuitive trend
comment imageNASA

In a world where most regions are warming because of increasing concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2), central Antarctica has been cooling slightly in recent years. Greenhouse gases such as CO2 typically trap heat radiated back toward space from the planet’s surface, but large swaths of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet (the broad pink mass on the right side of the image) are, on average, actually colder than the upper layers of the atmosphere for much of the year—the only place on Earth where that’s true. When the team looked at the overall balance between the radiation upward from the surface of the ice sheet and the radiation both upward and downward from the upper levels of the atmosphere across all infrared wavelengths over the course of a year, they found that in central Antarctica the surface and lower atmosphere, against expectation, actually lose more energy to space if the air contains greenhouse gases, the researchers report online and in a forthcoming Geophysical Research Letters. And adding more CO2 to the atmosphere in the short-term triggered even more energy loss from the surface and lower atmosphere there, the team’s climate simulations suggest. The topsy-turvy temperature trend stems, in part, from the region’s high elevation; much of the surface of the ice sheet smothering East Antarctica lies above an elevation of 3000 meters, so it is much colder than it would be at lower altitudes. Moreover, that region often experiences what meteorologists call a temperature inversion, where temperatures in the lowest levels of the atmosphere are cooler than those higher up. For the lower-altitude fringes of the icy continent, and for the rest of the world (even Siberia and Greenland), the greenhouse effect still works as expected”

.Rising atmospheric carbon dioxide actually cools part of Antarctica | Science | AAAS

Richard M
Reply to  Richard Greene
March 5, 2023 9:49 am

CO2 also has a cooling effect over the rest of the world.

“Only half of the blockage of 3.7 Wm-2 at the surface should be expected to go into temperature rise. The other half (~1.85 Wm-2) of the blocked IR energy to space will be compensated by surface energy loss to support enhanced evaporation.” – Dr. William Gray

This is about 10 years old and a little outdated. I believe the claim now is 3.0 W/m2 for the warming effect. In addition, since IR photons are such a weak source of energy, they do not penetrate the oceans like solar energy. Hence, the 50% number is probably more like 80%. It also means the water vapor greenhouse effect is reduced even more.

The net result is the evaporative cooling matches what’s left of the warming. The result is zero change in the global temperature.

Reply to  Richard M
March 7, 2023 12:06 am

CO2 also has a cooling effect over the rest of the world.


Reply to  Richard Greene
March 5, 2023 11:24 am

Not sure is the areas where the ice cores are drilled are at elevations, but there are plenty of sea level locations not showing warming. Do the laws of physics cease to exist at these locations?

Link to many sites that show no clear warming trend

Reply to  Richard Greene
March 5, 2023 12:40 pm

How does the US not show any warming since 1880?

Reply to  CO2isLife
March 5, 2023 12:54 pm

That graph shows 0.60 F/decade of warming in the US.

Reply to  bdgwx
March 5, 2023 2:44 pm

Everything in that graph is natural. In ‘09-‘10 the Arctic Oscillation Index went hugely negative resulting in a very cold winter in the East Coast. That’s why it’s the lowest anomaly in the graph. 2015 and 2016 had a giant El Niño which resulted in a very warm winter and spring especially in the northern states. Other than that, you pretty much just get an oscillating temperature record with very little, if any and unnoticeable, warming. We’re basically back where we started when we first set up the network.

Reply to  Walter
March 6, 2023 8:44 am

The graph does not tell us the cause. It just tells us the temperature. And the trend of that temperature is +0.60 F/decade.

Reply to  CO2isLife
March 6, 2023 1:09 am

EYEBALL ANALYSIS: NOAA’s USCRN has a warming trend from 2005 to 2015 and a flat trend after 2015. The network started operation in 2005, not 1880.

Reply to  Richard Greene
March 6, 2023 8:45 am

The USCRN trend since from 2015 to present is actually -0.96 F/decade.

Reply to  bdgwx
March 7, 2023 12:08 am

Thank you for the calculation
I do have a vision disability.
And my dog ate my papers

Reply to  CO2isLife
March 6, 2023 9:40 am

This is the link, Clearly, there is no established uptrend. There is volatility, but it clearly isn’t associated with CO2. Link

Reply to  CO2isLife
March 6, 2023 2:13 pm

That trend is +0.20 F/decade.

Reply to  bdgwx
March 6, 2023 3:01 pm

Simply look at that data set. A “trend” line is meaningless. Anytime a new low is set you have to restart the trend…remember the energy is “trapped.” The “trend” is totally dependent upon the time period and can be up or down depending on the period chosen.

Reply to  CO2isLife
March 6, 2023 4:38 pm

The trend from the new low in 1977 is +0.82 F/decade. I’m not sure how meaningful it is, but it’s the same method Monckton advocates for here monthly.

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March 5, 2023 7:00 am


The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition (DSM-5) defines delusions as fixed beliefs that are not amenable to change in light of conflicting evidence.

Four types of delusions outlined in the DSM-5 include:1

  • Bizarre delusions are implausible or impossible, such as being abducted by aliens.
  • Non-bizarre delusions could actually occur in reality, such as being cheated on, poisoned, or stalked by an ex.
  • Mood-congruent delusions are consistent with a depressive or manic state, such as delusions of abandonment or persecution when depressed, and delusions of superiority or fame when manic. 
  • Mood-incongruent delusions are not affected by the particular mood state. They may include delusions of nihilism (e.g., the world is ending) and delusions of control (e.g., an external force controls your thoughts or movements).

People with delusions may also exhibit confusion, agitation, irritability, aggressiveness, depression, and self-referential thinking.

Reply to  nailheadtom
March 5, 2023 10:02 am

But most people on this planet have beliefs that are not based on fact, data and logic.

So those beliefs can’t be changed by facts, data and logic.

Does that mean most people are deluded?

Beliefs include the coming climate change crisis, god, heaven, hell. reincarnation,, creationism and homeopathy, Trump Russian collusion, etc. I’m sure I missed a few good ones.

I try hard not to believe in any of those but I do have one belief that many people would call a delusion — although I believe the evidence is strong enough so this is not a delusion — there have been unidentified flying objects in the skies since a least World War 2, when they were called faux fighters (mispronounced as foo fighters).

Foo fighter – Wikipedia

They must come from other civilizations because they perform maneuvers that no manmade craft is capable of. and that no human pilot could survive.

They have also left behind “calling cards” — modern art created in farmers fields in about 5 minutes in the dark — with up to 70 independent eyewitnesses who watched the art as it was being made.

Here are 13 aerial views of my favorite crop designs.
I am 99.9% confident they were not created by humans.

Honest Climate Science and Energy Blog: OFF TOPIC: Monday fun — My 13 favorite non-manmade crop circle photographs

Matt Kiro
Reply to  Richard Greene
March 5, 2023 10:39 am

Somehow Ive seen all of those crop designs , except the one with the trilobites, as tattoos

Reply to  Matt Kiro
March 6, 2023 1:11 am


Reply to  Richard Greene
March 6, 2023 1:00 pm

Crop designs by aliens?

1) Do you believe that there are other civilizations out there (that would have to be within 120 light years to have learned of our existence) that have managed to develop faster-than-light travel?
2) Assuming (1), what is the point of coming to earth just to fly around and make pretty designs in fields?

I’m not ridiculing your belief here, but I’m trying to understand how you get past those questions. It is difficult for me to make sense of it.

Reply to  Tony_G
March 7, 2023 12:37 am

You have replied with a classic deflection to avoid a discussion of the strong evidence of UFOs.

That reminds me of some conservatives who deny AGW simply because they have not found a scientific study that proves EXACTLY how much of past global warming was caused by humans, to the nearest 0.1 degree C.. … In the absence of such a study, they declare no warming was caused by humans.

Similarly, you deflect from actual evidence, which includes tens of thousands of UFO reports form US military pilots since WW2. In your mind, these professional pilots must all have had delusions — 100% wrong. Really?

The important point, which you try to deflect away from, is that there is strong evidence aliens have visited our planet at least since the 1940s. Pilot sightings, radar sightings, photos and videos.

And in more recent decades those aliens left hundreds of calling cards that are called crop circles — complex, extremely precise designs created in five minutes at night, with unexplainable changes to plant stalk nodes by an unknown energy force, according to University of Michigan physicists, that allows the plants to survive and continue growing.

The plants are not destroyed, as they are with fake manmade, uneven, simple hoax circles, created in the daytime over many hours by a team of men. Where stalks are broken and plants are killed for that season

You are not interested in facts. You have a closed mind, so you ask questions hoping there is no answer that will satisfy you.

I can give you logical answers, but you could not care less about logical answers. You will respond with the typical “You can’t prove it” defense, implying that everything I say must be false.

Crop designs by aliens?

1) Do you believe that there are other civilizations out there (that would have to be within 120 light years to have learned of our existence) that have managed to develop faster-than-light travel?

It does not matter what I believe because they DID get here. The assumption that faster than light travel is impossible may no longer be the consensus assumption in the 2200’s and 2300s

2) Assuming (1), what is the point of coming to earth just to fly around and make pretty designs in fields?

The UFOs spend most of their time investigating nuclear weapons and nuclear facilities. They are obviously interested in our weapons and our ability to travel to other planets. The crop circles probably are their calling cards — telling us they were here, and trying to inform an inferior intelligence population that they are observing us and not here with hostile intentions.

I provided logical answers assuming you might be interested in those answers. But the most important point I can make is to not toss all UFO evidence in the garbage can simply because you can’t figure out why aliens visit this planet, and why they left behind complex crop designs.

Humans have visited the moon and sent probes to other planets. There is obviously a need to explore. Aliens would likely have the same need.

It has been estimated that billions of planets exist that could support life. Of the estimated 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe, only one in 10 (10 billion) can support complex life like that on Earth, a pair of astrophysicists argues***.

*** Complex life may be possible in only 10% of all galaxies | Science | AAAS

It would be ridiculous to claim the only life in the universe is on one planet named Earth.

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Reply to  Richard Greene
March 7, 2023 7:45 am

You have replied with a classic deflection to avoid a discussion of the strong evidence of UFOs.

I have done no such thing. I have asked questions that I think need to be answered in order to attribute this evidence to non-terrestrial beings.

Similarly, you deflect from actual evidence, which includes tens of thousands of UFO reports form US military pilots since WW2. In your mind, these professional pilots must all have had delusions — 100% wrong. Really?

What is it that Willis always says? Quote my exact words where I made any such claim. When you say In your mind you are claiming to know what I think. Are you a mind reader to know this? As you say, “Really?”

The important point, which you try to deflect away from, is that there is strong evidence aliens have visited our planet at least since the 1940s. Pilot sightings, radar sightings, photos and videos.

While I have not seen any photos and videos that I have found convincing, (especially given that I used to work in the film industry so have experience in making believable fakes of that nature) I have not dismissed “Pilot sightings, radar sightings“, nor have I dismissed that there may be convincing photos and videos as I have not seen all of them. However, even taking all of this evidence at face value, none of it proves that these are due to extraterrestrial aliens.

You have previously mentioned these objects maneuverability. I suggest you acquaint yourself with the declassified HIMAT technology of the 1980’s and consider what classified technology this would suggest. Also consider the SR-71 that was developed in the 1960’s and the technology required to produce something at that time capable of Mach 3+ (I happen to know it is MUCH faster than that)

And in more recent decades those aliens left hundreds of calling cards that are called crop circles

Again you go on about this. You claim “created in 5 minutes” – where is the evidence of this? You indicate the changes found by University of Michigan physicists – ok, point me to that information.

You are not interested in facts. You have a closed mind, so you ask questions hoping there is no answer that will satisfy you.
I can give you logical answers, but you could not care less about logical answers. You will respond with the typical “You can’t prove it” defense, implying that everything I say must be false.

So rather than addressing my questions, you choose to attack my motives. This makes you no different than the AGW believers when pressed on their beliefs, or the woke mob when pressed on theirs. Instead of engaging rationally, you choose to attack the questioner.

Also, can you please explain what is wrong about “You can’t prove it”? When has asking for proof become a bad thing? Especially on a science blog

It does not matter what I believe because they DID get here. The assumption that faster than light travel is impossible may no longer be the consensus assumption in the 2200’s and 2300s

Again, even fully accepting all of your evidence, nothing proves that any of it is due to extraterrestrial aliens. And appeal to “consensus” – Really? The “assumption” that FTL travel is possible is at best an unproven hypothesis.

The UFOs spend most of their time investigating nuclear weapons and nuclear facilities. They are obviously interested in our weapons and our ability to travel to other planets. The crop circles probably are their calling cards — telling us they were here, and trying to inform an inferior intelligence population that they are observing us and not here with hostile intentions.

There appear to be a lot of unfounded assumptions and some equivocation here. Investigating weapons? Who else might have an interest in that other that aliens?

I provided logical answers assuming you might be interested in those answers.

No, you attacked my questions and motives.

Aliens would likely have the same need.

Perhaps, but you certainly seem to dismiss the sheer vastness of the universe, or even just the galaxy.

It has been estimated that billions of planets exist that could support life.

Estimated using what means? Certainly not the Drake equation which was based on nothing more than an unfounded assumption.

It would be ridiculous to claim the only life in the universe is on one planet named Earth.

Please show me where I made such a claim.

But it is clear to me from your response that I am questioning a religious belief and will not get a calm and rational discussion, so thank you for your reply and I think we can be done here.

Reply to  nailheadtom
March 6, 2023 8:31 pm

I suggest that the most popular current “bizarre delusion” is the “Trans” delusion that a man is, or can become, a woman, or v/v.

March 5, 2023 7:15 am

Bjorn Stephens in his preprint rediscovers the nature of the greenhouse effect, but chooses to dance around the implications.

Λ is the change in upward emitted flux per 1 K of temperature change.

In the figure 5 (depicted below) we see the atmosphere is most stable at the peak of the curves in the bottom plot. Correspondingly, the atmosphere is least stable away from the peak. The atmosphere is always striving for stability i.e. the atmosphere is always striving to maximize emission.

The blue line being atmospheric emission, we see the atmosphere is a more effective emitter than the surface, black line.

Note that Stephens points this out for us “clouds with tops at 288 K will radiate twice as much energy per degree of warming than would the surface at 305 K”

And so we see the nature of the atmosphere in this plot, for which Stephens chooses to obfuscate.

The system must strive to maximize emission to space, by both surface transmitted flux and (mostly) atmospheric net upward emission.

He chooses the arbitrary Λ of 2.2. 

But it must be the weighted average of surface emission and the atmospheric emission. This gives a Λ closer to 2.5. As Stephens illustrates, the atmosphere is a more effective emitter to space than the surface.

For a 3.7 W m-2 per K change in surface upward flux must have a response of 2.5 W m-2 K-1 of upward emission. This is the combined emission from surface and atmosphere.

This suggests a hypothetical system response of factor 2.5 / 3.7 = 0.66. Or a greenhouse factor = 0.33.

This is confirmed in CERES observation. With clear sky OLR 265 / Surface Upward Flux ~398 = 0.66 or greenhouse factor = 0.33.

Surface LW radiative exchange equilibrium is 3 / 2 OLR. 

Or +3.7 Wm-2 per K surface flux must result in +2.5 Wm-2 per K OLR.

This is a fixed relation. There are no new mysterious positive feedbacks.

Stephens chooses the maximum model forcing of 4.3 Wm-2, with the minimum system response of 2.2 to conceal this result and to create an arbitrarily large positive feedback. I suspect he knows this.

In the discussion Stephens emphasises the power of the atmospheric upward emission, but then simply ignores this in his reported results.

The s is the transmittance.
The Λ is the change in net upward emission, or Simpsonian response.

The black line is surface contribution.
The blue line is the atmospheric contribution.

In spite of the atmosphere’s cooler temperature compared to surface, the flux is more easily transmitted to space.

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Reply to  JCM
March 5, 2023 8:15 am

And here I illustrate the magical optimized all-sky surface emission temperature from the system 279K using Stephens’ plot.

This represents the temperature of the effective radiating surface observed from space. i.e. terrestrial surface + atmospheric “surface” emission.

This value perfectly corresponds with the astronomical derived effective radiating temperature of the system.

i.e. this is the same temperature that the 340 W m-2 average incoming solar would produce with a non atmosphere barren system.

The existence of the atmosphere and clouds etc simply lifts the average radiating surface height about 1.4km. Or 288K – 279K / 6.5K/km = 1.4km.

The all sky effective radiating temperature observed from space is unchanged with or without atmosphere.

The system has optimized this via a combination of surface transmitted flux and atmospherical emission.

Reply to  JCM
March 5, 2023 9:06 am

The ratio of surface outgoing radiation to top of atmosphere outgoing radiation increases as greenhouse gases increase.

Also, the 2.5 W/m^2 per 2xCO2 figure for top of atmosphere outgoing longwave radiation depends on the effective top of atmosphere warming as much as the surface does. This is not true, because of increase of GHGs raising the altitude of the tropopause and increasing the troposphere’s lapse rate.

Reply to  donklipstein
March 5, 2023 9:56 am

The ratio of surface outgoing radiation to top of atmosphere outgoing radiation increases as greenhouse gases increase

The effective radiating surface observed from a sensor in space is at a temperature 279K irrespective of atmospheric constituents.

2.5 W/m^2…

is the OLR response to any additional 3.7 Wm-2 surface flux, for any reason. It is a consequence of the system settling at an emissivity about 0.7. 279K effective radiating surface is producing about 240 Wm-2.

lapse rate

Any internal IR perturbation that increases the environmental lapse rate must result in increased tropospheric instability (mass flux). The more superadiabatic, the more instable.

Reply to  JCM
March 8, 2023 7:43 am

The emissivity of .7 (as opposed to almost unity) is a result of greenhouse gases, and becomes farther from unity if greenhouse gases are increased.

The lapse rate effect is known and is a negative feedback that is considered by the IPCC and named as a negative feedback in IPCC reports. It would be more negative if adding greenhouse gases doesn’t raise the altitude of the tropopause (which it does).

Reply to  donklipstein
March 8, 2023 7:12 pm

raise the altitude of the tropopause

The existence of the tropopause is indeed a consequence of greenhouse gases, which produces the convecting layer known as the troposphere distinct from the stratosphere.

The gas effect and the convection effect results in bulk tropospheric radiative emission identical to a virtual non greenhouse surface.

The critical and misunderstood factor is that the entropy per unit mass of air increases with a virtual change of tropospheric depth, which must therefore minimize temperature.

Likewise it must maximize the bulk tropospheric emissivity.

Most power is emitted from well below the tropopause, particularly in the windows created above dense low altitude cloud for example.

The turbulent boundary layer and its association to the broader free convective atmosphere responds to a radiative perturbation in much more dynamic ways than the lapse rate kernel.

Indeed the proportions of the effective radiating surface and the OLR are constant, constrained by entropy per unit troposphere. The radiative pathways are free to vary in the dynamic condensing system.

Such stability is typical of equilibrated dynamic systems, where the Earth system appears to have a great deal of freedom to optimize emission.

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Reply to  JCM
March 6, 2023 10:59 am

So if I’ve followed that correctly the temperature increase for a doubling of CO2 is fixed at 1.5C (3.7/2.5).

Reply to  ChrisG
March 8, 2023 8:18 pm

Considering these are radiative flux parameters using blackbody assumption, 1.5 represents an upper bound on temperature.

The blackbody implication is most pronounced on the net upward emission (2.5).

Consider that to maintain TOA equilibrium, the f_OLR must match pretty closely the f_Solar.

In the hypothetical scenario with the addition of internal IR active gases, the shutters to maintain the f_OLR = f_Solar is mainly through humidity fields and condensation.

Paradoxically, a reduction of average cloud fraction increases system emissivity by increasing the proportion of surface transmitted flux compared to atmosphere. The surface resembles more closely a blackbody compared to atmosphere.

Additionally, increasing unit low cloud density and drying upper troposphere increases emissivity by increasing the power and transmissivity of available atmospherical upward emission.

The system behaves much like SB would suggest from a radiative perspective. It’s hard to escape. Positive feedbacks are hardly likely.

Does the greenhouse effect change much in the dynamical equilibrated system with a hypothetical addition of trace IR active gas? Hard to say. The gas causes a virtual decrease of emission, while the dynamical system induces a virtual increase of emission.

Spontaneously, the 3/2 or 1.5 flux relation holds pretty true. The implications for temperature are more muddy, but cannot exceed 1.5C per CO2 doubling using Stephens’ approach.

Reply to  ChrisG
March 10, 2023 7:39 am

Fixed at 1.5 C per 2cxCO2 assumes the temperature change does not change albedo or greenhouse gases other than CO2. Although, studies by Nic Lewis, sometimes with and sometimes without Judith Curry, mostly indicate 1.5-1.9 C per 2xCO2.

March 5, 2023 7:55 am

I just watched “The Blind Spots of the Green Energy Transition | Olivia Lazard | TED”. This highly educated lady employed by large liberal think tanks presents a touchy feely discussion, but informative discussion on the blind spots.

The problem is that she never admits that it just won’t happen. We (the world) should and must be looking at the problem, to much CO2, and an alternate solution – Nuclear Power!

Whether you agree or disagree about CO2 we can all agree that for the dollars that are discussed we could build many nuclear power plants.

March 5, 2023 8:11 am


Green hydrogen is hydrogen produced from renewable energy, presumably by converting electricity through the process of electrolysis. Electrolysis is a chemical reaction driven by an electric current which causes water (H2O) to be decomposed into it constituent elements, hydrogen and oxygen. This process is relatively efficient, with 80% being a reasonable value, but this is really an economic issue. Done correctly, I think a proper analysis would show that making hydrogen from renewable energy is not economically practical at this point in this, but I am just concerned with safety. We know that making hydrogen with electricity is technically possible, but I’m just going to address the questions of safety which are often brought up as a reason not to consider hydrogen as burner fuel for domestic consumption, or automobile fuel, presumably via fuel cells.

People have raised the following concerns with regard to hydrogen safety:
·        Hydrogen embrittlement- This is a type of metal failure which is caused by hydrogen’s unique physical and chemical properties. It is well understood, and proper metal fabrication methods and materials selection prevent this from occurring. This fact is born out by the widespread use of hydrogen over a very wide range of temperatures, pressures, and purity in many industrial applications.
·        Just because it works in industry does not mean it can work in, for instance, residential or automotive applications. Perhaps, but it does suggest that it is possible, especially since residential or automotive applications would be operating under less sever conditions than are many industrial processes.
·        Hydrogen cannot be odorized – Apparently untrue: Hydrogen odorant – Wikipedia
·        Existing natural gas pipelines are not suitable for hydrogen – This is true, but no one is suggesting this be done without a thorough engineering review. Pipeline distribution systems for hydrogen would most probably require new pipelines or replacement of existing ones.
·        Hydrogen is unsafe due to its flammability and explosivity properties – It’s true that it is more dangerous in some respects that methane, for instance. However, this, again, is well understood and can be controlled for as evidenced by its widespread use in industry and the space program. This does not mean there will not be accidents. Hydrogen safety – Wikipedia

Major corporations like Toyota and Siemens and others are investing in hydrogen technology. They have the expertise to know whether hydrogen can be used safely.
Green hydrogen production | Renewable Energy | Siemens Energy Global (
2023 Toyota Mirai |

If green hydrogen fails, it will be because of economics and not safety or other technical factors.

Reply to  Tom.1
March 5, 2023 10:04 am

Yes, and it fails on an economics basis as a “fuel” because it does not occur naturally, and you have to use natural gas and heat, or electricity and water, to manufacture hydrogen. When you do the numbers on using hydrogen as a means of energy storage, it fares poorly against LNG, biofuels and even lead-acid batteries.
Politicians have latched onto it as a vote-getter though, and the petro-chem industry is all for subsidized cheap hydrogen since they do use it for some things, especially in refineries where more heavy ends can be turned into gasoline.

Reply to  DMacKenzie
March 5, 2023 10:40 am

That’s the only consolation. There is no place to get the stuff in sufficient volume to move the country to it. Its a mad idea. We are going to move natural gas fired boilers and cookers to hydrogen. We don’t have the hydrogen, we don’t have the appliances, we don’t have the distribution network. But we are saving the planet!

Dave Andrews
Reply to  michel
March 6, 2023 7:22 am

Over 22m of the UK’s 28m households are on the gas network. The idea that these will all be switched to hydrogen in a few years is DELUSIONAL.

Similarly the idea that Hybrit (Sweden) which is currently ramping up its hydrogen based steel production to 1.3m tonnes pa, and others, will somehow replace the almost 2 bn tonnes pa of steel produced by using coking coal in the near future is even MORE DELUSIONAL. (Note, the Hybrit process is currently 30% more expensive than using coking coal and may never reach parity)

Reply to  Tom.1
March 5, 2023 10:37 am

Safety also.

Households that have hydrogen boilers installed could be forced to drill a 4×4-inch hole in their wall to mitigate risks of explosion, according to recommendations in a government-backed safety report. 
Residents in a neighbourhood being considered for a trial of hydrogen for home heating have been alarmed by a report’s recommendation that rooms with boilers hobs or substantial pipework “should have non-closable vents with [an] equivalent area of 10,000 mm2”.

And then think about the implications of replacing all the in-house pipework in a street or neighborhood, and the entire regional grid that feeds these houses. And the applicances…. Its going to involve ripping out and relaying almost the entire gas infrastructure in the country. 20 million or so homes.

We will find out the hard way. Nothing like this has ever been done. A normal failure rate on the craft work involved in the swap out will lead to disaster.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  michel
March 6, 2023 7:31 am

And when they have finished replacing the gas distribution network they will need to start replacing much of the electricity distribution network to accommodate EVs and heat pumps. Although I wouldn’t put it past them to try to do both at once and bring the country to a standstill.

March 5, 2023 8:56 am

Whenever I go to this site, I get a cookie notice with a button saying “Close and Accept”. However, even if I don’t click this button I still get at least one cookie.

March 5, 2023 9:03 am

Let me provide an example of how extreme the California climate activists have penetrated corporate culture. I received a brochure from Waste Management recently. In general, it just describes how they would like residents to separate the garbage. The problem starts in the first paragraph that reads:

“California is experiencing a climate crisis: record-breaking temperatures, longer fire seasons, extreme droughts, and rising sea levels. These extreme events are partly caused by too much greenhouse gas in the atmosphere, so named because they trap the sun’s heat and warm the planet.”

They go on to promote their composting, etc.
It’s the continual indoctrination of the public and I don’t know how to combat this insanity, Do I write to Waste Management? How can there ever be enough pressure placed on a business to at least do research before sending junk like this out in mass?


MIke McHenry
Reply to  LAR
March 5, 2023 12:49 pm

Composting can generate CO2 and methane

Ireneusz Palmowski
March 5, 2023 11:46 am

Arctic air will soon reach the UK and western Europe.
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Ben Vorlich
March 5, 2023 4:07 pm

Should I be worried about a Miyake Event if a Carrington Event is a cause for concern?

Tom Abbott
March 6, 2023 5:03 am

Look at how the arctic air is almost split in half:,72.08,264/loc=-7.530,60.780

I don’t know what significance it has but it looks interesting. Is it getting chilly in the UK?

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 6, 2023 7:34 am

Over the next few days yes.

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