What Is Milankovitch Theory, What Is It Not, And What Can We Learn from It?

John A. Parmentola

The RAND Corporation

I have been working on Milankovitch Theory for about three years, trying to understand it. In doing so, I have gained some new insights into this theory. I have also discovered that there are some misconceptions about what it is. This brief note summarizes my work while clarifying several aspects of the theory.

Milankovitch Theory is not a complete theory. It’s more of a hypothesis concerning insolation changes over time and the associated recurrence of ice ages. It is also not a climate model, as some assume. The Milankovitch hypothesis represents a set of insolation conditions on the earth’s climate system; however, the earth’s specific climate response to these conditions is not understood. That is a critical unknown factor relevant to predicting the future state of the earth’s climate.

In his original papers [1], Milutin Milankovitch proposed that the obliquity was a dominant factor in ice age occurrences because it affects the insolation at northern latitudes where ice and snow can accumulate on the earth’s comparatively large landmass of the northern hemisphere. Snow and ice accumulation can affect the earth’s albedo and hence its heat engine. It is likely that the earth’s climate response to changes in insolation at northern latitudes involves the extreme cyclonic weather at the poles primarily caused by the Coriolis Force and the dynamic change in the insolation over periods of roughly 10,000 years. These polar regions are each the size of Asia, containing enormous amounts of cold, dense air that is held in check by the jet stream. However, the specific physical mechanism within these regions that responds to insolation changes over extended periods to cause ice ages remains a mystery.

There are three celestial parameters involved in the earth’s motion, namely, the precession, obliquity, and eccentricity. None of these is periodic, as indicated by the following graphs of the eccentricity, precession, and obliquity half-cycles,  

While they are cyclical, each of them has no fixed period. Instead, there are cyclical ranges. They are all quasiperiodic functions of time due to effects from other planets and the sun on the earth’s motion. Therefore, there are no fixed frequencies; however, power spectral density analyses of the paleoclimate data reveal certain characteristic frequencies. These are associated with the three celestial parameters and are used to explain certain recurring features in the paleoclimate data, as indicated by the following graphs associated with Vostok ice core data [2],

The shortest cycle of the three celestial parameters is that of the precession, which, over the last 800,000 years, on average, has been about 21,000 years. That of the obliquity has been about 41,000 years and the eccentricity about 94,000 years. However, the variation in these cycles and their half-cycles is quite large. For example, the half-cycles vary for the precession from 7,000 to 15,000 years, the obliquity from 18,000 to 23,000 years, and the eccentricity from 30,000 to 70,000 years. In terms of timescales, the precession sets the scale for the time-dependent behavior of the insolation. The significant quantity is the precession half-cycle, which is about 11,000 years on average.

The insolation is inherently a wave phenomenon; however, this characterization is not acknowledged in the literature. Think of it as analogous to an AM radio wave. Its wave-like nature occurs from the “beating” of the earth’s celestial motions on the solar irradiance (about 1,368 Watts/m2), which results in its complex time-dependent distribution over the earth’s surface, i.e., the insolation. Each of the three celestial motions contributes a wave component to the insolation. Like ordinary waves, they can constructively and destructively interfere. This description begs several questions. How large in magnitude is each of these wave components, and how do they interfere? Does the interference manifest itself in the paleoclimate data, and how? Does the description of the insolation as a wave and its components have any predictive power? My work sheds some light on these questions.

In terms of physical effects, the obliquity primarily affects the insolation distribution over the earth. Its oscillatory behavior shifts the sun’s rays north and south by about 2.4 degrees in latitude or roughly 140 miles. This shift changes the angle the sun’s rays make with the vertical at each illuminated point on the earth resulting in a comparatively small overall effect on the insolation amplitude.

The most significant effect on the insolation amplitude comes from the combination of the precession and eccentricity, the precession index. It’s defined as the precession modulated by the eccentricity. It accounts for insolation minima and maxima. For example, when the earth is at perihelion, the closest distance to the sun, and the earth’s axis points toward the sun, the insolation approaches a maximum for the northern hemisphere. Fast forward about 11,000 years, an average precession half-cycle, the earth’s axis points toward the sun at aphelion, the farthest distance from the sun, and the insolation approaches a minimum for the northern hemisphere. The change from maximum to minimum and vice versa can be quite significant (more than 100 Watts/m2) at northern latitudes during the summer solstice and is driven by changes in the eccentricity over a precession half-cycle.  

Over the last 800,000 years, the insolation has transitioned from maxima to minima and vice versa a total of 74 times; however, the number of prominent interglacial periods indicated in paleoclimate data is at best 13. These features are represented by the following graphs of insolation predictions at 65 degrees north latitude during June [3] and EPICA Dome C ice core data from Antarctica rendered through a temperature model over the last 800,000 years [4].

Steep rises and subsequent major temperature declines are comparatively infrequent; however, the timescale of these changes is about 10,000 years, which approximately coincides with the precession half-cycle. What, if any, relationship is there between insolation changes and prominent features in the paleoclimate data? Are there specific insolation changes that are special, or are there trends in the insolation over time that correlate with significant changes in the paleoclimate data? To gain some insight into correlations, one might consider the largest changes in insolation from minimum to maximum and maximum to minimum to see if these influenced the paleoclimate data more than other insolation changes.

Since the obliquity affects the distribution of the solar irradiance over the earth with a comparatively small effect on its amplitude over long periods and the precession index is the primary driver of amplitude variations over shorter periods, the product of the two contributions should well approximate the insolation. This approximation has the added benefit of enabling the partitioning or deconvolution of these two effects in time and allows a time series comparison of the model predictions and the paleoclimate data. In this way, the quasiperiodic nature of the celestial parameters is accounted for explicitly.

Suppose one now calculates the percentage change between maxima and minima and vice versa using this model and interpolates between these extrema. In that case, the result is a complex wave having a beat structure describing the changing trends in the insolation. From the deconvolution model, the obliquity-wave (O-Wave) contribution to the percentage change oscillates quasi-periodically over 800,000 years with a comparatively small amplitude. Over the same period, the precession index contribution to the percentage change takes the form of recurring wave packets (PI-Wave) composed of a precession carrier wave modulated by an eccentricity envelope. The PI wave packet amplitudes, on average, exceed those of the O-Wave by a factor of four, as can be seen by the following graph,

Where the blue curve corresponds to the PI-Wave, the red curve the O-Wave, and the grey curve their total. Therefore, the PI-Wave drives the behavior of the insolation while the O-Wave tends to enhance it through constructive and destructive interference over much longer times scales that are roughly a factor of two greater on average. The sum of the O-Wave and PI-Wave at the extrema points can be shown to have about 1% accuracy based on a comparison with the high-precision insolation computations of Laskar et al. All numerical calculations make use of data generated from this computational tool [2]. The interpolation accuracy between the sparse set of extrema points is unknown.

Because the O-Wave and PI-Wave are time series model predictions, they can be directly compared with paleoclimate time series data. For example, the PI wave packets approximately correlate with the occurrence of interglacial periods, and the temperature trends correlate with the increasing and decreasing PI-Wave amplitudes as indicated by the following graphs,

Note the similarity between the wave packet structure indicated by the vertical lines at the far left and the packet to the far right associated with the Holocene. This similarity enables an estimate of the termination of the current warm period (see below).

From this novel wave description of the insolation, the deconvolution model can account for the following prominent features in the paleoclimate data:

1) The aperiodic recurrence of interglacial-glacial periods over the last 800,000 years approximately coincides with the quasiperiodic PI-Wave;

2) The paleoclimate temperature trends, such as those in the EPICA Dome C data, closely follow rising and declining trends in the PI-Wave contribution to the insolation;

3) All interglacial terminations over the last 800,000 years occur in the same manner through steep declines in the PI-Wave contribution to the insolation enhanced by the O-Wave contribution;

4) The temporal extent of interglacial periods is of two types that are accounted for by the constructive and destructive interference of the O-Wave and PI-Wave contributions to the insolation;

5) and all interglacial inceptions over the last 800,000 years coincide with synchronized constructive interference between the PI-Wave and O-wave contributions to the insolation, except for the timing of two inceptions.

The two inceptions that fail are deep ice cores. However, a detailed temporal comparison of the benthic LR04 data [4] and EPICA Dome C ice core data [3] demonstrate that the most significant timing differences between these data sets coincide with the inception timing disparities from the deconvolution model predictions [6]. This discrepancy suggests that there may be something wrong with the EPICA Dome C ice core data, which is not surprising given its model dependence and the depth of the ice cores.

Finally, through the deconvolution model, interglacial termination periods can be estimated, which all appear to be in the same ballpark in terms of duration. They are all about 11,000 years except for one, Marine Isotope Stage 13c, which is about 15,000 years; however, its greater duration can be understood in terms of the quantitative and qualitative behaviors of the O-Wave and PI-Wave contributions to the insolation.

From the model, the Holocene interglacial will likely terminate within the next 500 years. It’s a low-resolution estimate because the insolation minimum the earth is currently in is very shallow. A very similar interglacial occurred about 787,000 years ago, which terminated in a similar way. The following graphs indicate the shallowness of the Holocene, Marine Isotope Stage 1, and Marine Isotope Stage 19c insolation minima,

            The consistency of the deconvolution model with the prominent features of the paleoclimate data suggests a physical description reminiscent of a resonance system; however, proving this is a whole other matter. The following description should be considered speculation or, at best, a hypothesis.

We know from a harmonic oscillator that it is the nature of a resonant system to respond strongly to influences that have frequencies close to its resonant frequency. If a complex, exciting force is applied, such as one having many frequencies, then the system will pick out the components close to its resonant frequency.  

For the sun-earth system, the solar irradiance undergoes small percentage changes over time and is evenly distributed along a plane perpendicular to the sun’s rays. The earth’s shape and celestial mechanical motions beat on the solar irradiance with multiple frequencies in a quasiperiodic manner to transform it into the insolation over the earth’s surface. The beating effect is a consequence of gravitational forces on the earth that deviate from a 1/R2 central force law due to the sun, other planets, and its unsymmetrical mass distribution. 

This “beating” causes quasiperiodic trends in the insolation primarily due to the precession index (the precession modulated by the eccentricity). The eccentricity through the precession index has amplified and reduced the insolation in a quasiperiodic manner over the last 800,000 years. The climate system’s response to this aperiodic “beating” is quasiperiodic interglacial periods, a resonance response. Simply put, the earth is a sensor that detects and responds to the fundamental rhythms of the solar system. 

The interglacial periods are initiated by amplification and terminated by reduction of the insolation due to the eccentricity through the precession index. This effect takes the form of quasiperiodic wave packets with a precession carrier wave modulated by the eccentricity, which accounts for the quasiperiodic recurrence of interglacial-glacial periods. The role of the quasiperiodic obliquity contribution to the insolation is to enhance and diminish the dominant effect of precession index wave packets in initiating and terminating interglacial periods. 

That’s it in a nutshell.

About the author

John Parmentola has a Ph.D. in theoretical physics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He has built a highly distinguished career over four decades as an entrepreneur, inventor, innovator, a pioneer in the founding of new fields of research, and leader of complex research and development organizations with broad experience in the private sector, academia, and high-level positions within the federal government and defense community.

Currently, he is a consultant to one of the world’s leading think tanks, The RAND Corporation, where he works on defense, energy, and science and technology assessment, strategy, and planning issues for domestic and foreign government agencies. He also does volunteer work for the National Academy of Sciences.

References

[1] Milankovitch, M.M., 1941. Kanon der Erdbestrahlung und seine Anwendung auf das Eiszeitenproblem. Royal Serbian Sciences, Spec. pub. 132, Section of Mathematical and Natural Sciences, 33, Belgrade, 633 pp., also available in English at  https://www.amazon.com/Insolation-Ice-Age-Problem-Milankovic-Milankovitch/dp/8617066199, 1998.

[2] (Petit, J., Jouzel, J., Raynaud, D. et al. Climate and atmospheric history of the past 420,000 years from the Vostok ice core, Antarctica. Nature 399, pp. 429–436,  https://doi.org/10.1038/20859, 1999.

[3] J. Laskar et al., IMCCE, Virtual Observatory Solar System Portal, CNRS Observatory, Paris, http://vo.imcce.fr/insola/earth/online/earth/online/index.php, 2018.

[4] NCEI, EPICA Dome C – 800KYr Deuterium Data and Temperature Estimates, https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/paleo-search/study/6080, 2007.

[5] Lisiecki, LE. and Raymo, M.E., A Pliocene-Pleistocene Stack of 57 Distributed Benthic d18O Records, AGU Paleoceanography and Paleoclimatology, Vol. 20 (PA1003), pp.1-17, https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/2004PA001071, 2005.

[6] See figure 3, Parrenin, F. et al., The EDC3 Chronology for the EPICA Dome C Ice Core, Clim. Past., Vol. 3, pp. 485-497, Figure 3, pp. 491, https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/3/485/2007/, 2007.

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Izaak Walton
October 1, 2022 7:49 pm

It is worth noting that there are a lot of explainations of the ice age cycles in the literature.
For example look at:
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2002JD003120
which uses coherent resonances arising in a simple set of delay equations
to approximate the ice age durations without the need for external quasi-periodic forcings.

The explaination here for the ice-ages does not make much physical sense. There appears
to be no physical basis for multiplying the percentage changes of two different time series
and then claiming that it is correlated with global temperature changes. What is needed is
some physical explaination of what this product means.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 1, 2022 8:12 pm

A side note to Issac, Javier and others. I appreciate that you may have a somewhat different theory/prognostication, but please consider the Bigger Picture.

The Warmunist Cult is using CAGW panic as a weapon to disrupt economies and enslave whole populations. Their stated goal is to End Capitalism and institute Global Authoritarian Communist Elitist Tyranny. Already the West (Europe, the US, Canada, Australia, and various minor countries) is reeling from impositions foisted on us by the Great Resetters. This approaching winter will be catastrophic for the poor and least self-sufficient. There be endless tragedy and suffering, completely unnecessary and avoidable.

If the Panic can be short-circuited by establishing that cooling, not warming, is the global hobgoblin, which is in fact the truth, then maybe their machinations will be quelled. Or maybe not. They might switch horses midstream, and promote a Global Hegemony to battle cooling. I wouldn’t put it past them. But in any case, their flip floppery might go a long ways to exposing their colossal calumny and corruption.

Warmer Is Better, especially better than the unavoidable Return of the Ice Age. Let’s get with that message, and not squabble about the particulars.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
October 1, 2022 8:55 pm

“global authoritarian communist elitist tryanny”. The number of ways such a statement is self-contradictory is impressive. And I am curious to know just who
exactly is part of the “warmunist cult” and what power they might have to do
anything?

Arthur Foster
Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 2, 2022 6:56 am

Why, in the name of global warming the “cult” has all of Western Civilization committing energy suicide in order to destroy Capitalism and irreversibly establish the true religion of Marxist socialism in Europe and America. Don’t you know anything?
–AGF

Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 2, 2022 7:00 am

The physics is described in the paper. The obliquity essentially affects the angular distribution of the sun’s rays, while the precession index (the precession modulated by the eccentricity) affects the amplitude. The product produces the correct dependencies. I have shown that the approximation is valid by comparing the model predictions for the percentage changes between extrema and the precise values for the points calculated from J. Laskar et al. cited in the paper. The accuracy is about 1%.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  John Parmentola
October 2, 2022 11:39 am

John,
Like you said you Javier:
“With all due respect, your book does not have one equation. Without mathematics incorporating physics, you have no predictive power or a testable theory.”

There is not a single equation in your post nor is there any physics. Then you state
that “the product produces the correct dependencies”. Which sounds a lot like you
have started with the assumption that the theory was correct then manipulated everything until you found something that looks like it was correlated with past temperatures.

So again what is the climate science that explains why the earth’s temperature responds in a nonlinear fashion to the obliquity and precession? And why is the
response proportional to the product of the precentage change of each?

Finally how does your model compare in terms of accuracy and predictive powers compared to others published in the literature? There are plenty of models out there that claim to do the same thing. I gave one example based on delay equations but there are a lot more.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
October 2, 2022 4:26 pm

There are no free parameters in my model! The model is based on physics translated into mathematics. It uses the following tool, http://vo.imcce.fr/insola/earth/online/earth/online/index.php,to determine the values of the obliquity and precession index at a specified time. These are the input to the model, which determines percentage changes in the insolation between maxima and minima and vice versa.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  John Parmentola
October 2, 2022 5:42 pm

John,
The issue is that you do not present any physics that relates the obliquity and precession indices to the temperature. All you do is torture the different time series until you find something that matches reasonably well the temperature time series. And then when you find that they don’t match you claim the temperature series is wrong.

In essence your model has an infinite number of free paramters since there are an infinite number of functions you could apply to the orbital data to get a time series that looks like the temperature data. So unless you can justify why you use the functions that you did this approach lacks any meaning.

michael hart
October 1, 2022 10:37 pm

What the author does not appear to discuss is the relative changes in insolation at specific latitudes, specifically high latitude (I recall something like 68 degrees being the magic number).
I am given to understand that this can be far more significant than average global insolation in the formation or loss of (primarily northern) ice sheets.

Reply to  michael hart
October 2, 2022 7:02 am

The conclusions of my paper do not change because of a 3-degree shift.

Ireneusz Palmowski
October 1, 2022 11:00 pm

Why are North American winters harsh? If you look at the distribution of ozone in the stratosphere during the formation of the polar vortex pattern, you can see more ozone farthest north at the Bering Strait. This is where the polar vortex flattens out. This is how air from eastern Siberia descends over North America in winter (you can already see this in the ozone distribution over Canada).
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Is there a dependence of ozone distribution on the magnetic field in the north?
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Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
October 1, 2022 11:09 pm

In my opinion, a stronger magnetic field repels ozone (see Siberia).

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
October 2, 2022 12:29 am

“Ozone is diamagnetic, meaning that its electrons are all paired. In contrast, O2 is paramagnetic, containing two unpaired electrons.”
As a diamagnetic, is ozone also repelled by the stronger magnetic field of the solar wind? So do geomagnetic storms affect the distribution of ozone in high latitudes?

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
October 2, 2022 12:46 am

It might seem that ozone can increase the temperature near the surface. Nothing could be further from the truth. 
“Stratospheric intrusions are situations in which stratospheric air dynamically descends into the troposphere and can reach the surface, bringing with it high concentrations of ozone that can be harmful to some people. Stratospheric intrusions are identified by very low tropopause heights, low surface heights of 2 potential vorticity units (PVUs), very low relative and specific humidity concentrations, and high ozone concentrations. Stratospheric intrusions often follow strong cold fronts and can extend across multiple states. On satellite imagery, stratospheric intrusions are identified by very low humidity levels in water vapor channels (6.2, 6.5 and 6.9 microns). Along with dry air, Stratospheric Intrusions bring large amounts of ozone into the tropospheric column and possibly near the surface.”
https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat_int/

Tom.1
October 2, 2022 5:40 am

Thanks, John for one of the most interesting posts ever on WUWT.

Reply to  Tom.1
October 2, 2022 7:03 am

You are welcome, Tom. John

October 2, 2022 7:06 am

Glacial maximum 20,000 years ago had near permanent El Nino conditions, the Holocene Thermal Optimum had near permanent La Nina conditions. Are changes in insolation at high latitudes solely responsible for such dramatic changes in atmospheric and oceanic teleconnections?

There are seven regular intervals between interglacials of the last 800kyrs, at 84,600 years, with additional shorter intervals at 31,000 years. There is a mirror image symmetry around 11c, as far as 17c to 5e, but since 5e the sequence has altered with the much longer most recent glacial period.

The red lines are at 369.4kyrs, or 9 obliquity cycles.

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Wim Röst
Reply to  Ulric Lyons
October 5, 2022 12:19 pm

Ulric Lyons: “Glacial maximum 20,000 years ago had near permanent El Nino conditions, the Holocene Thermal Optimum had near permanent La Nina conditions.”

WR: Do you have any source for this statement? And what would be the reasoning? All might be important because it would tell us something about the weather conditions at those times driving oceanic behavior and at the same time, about oceanic conditions that drove weather patterns.

Editor
October 2, 2022 8:08 am

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Chad W Jessup
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 2, 2022 11:03 am

I selected your link and was informed the site can’t be reached.

Ric Howard
October 2, 2022 9:58 am

Can anyone provide a clear technical description (or pointer to such) of how I would compute the “Eccentricity Half-Cycle Durations” shown in the first figure of the article for myself given the eccentricity values over the same time period (e.g. from the Laskar website of the articles reference [3]).

I tried googling for “half-cycle duration” (and variations) but didn’t find anything that seemed to be this concept.

Using a plot of the eccentricity values and restricting myself to areas of the plot that resembled one cycle of a sine wave, I could measure the period, divide by 2, and get a value close to the author’s figure (+/- 2%), but in areas of the plot that were less like a sine wave I have no idea how to even define a “half-cycle duration”.

Ric Howard
Reply to  Ric Howard
October 2, 2022 1:53 pm

Googling “half-cycle duration” with quotation marks gives several results that seem related to the concept here but I still haven’t found an actual definition.

Incidentally there are several uses of phrases like “the paper”, “John’s paper”, “my paper”, etc in the above but I don’t see any actual reference or link. Perhaps this is it?
Celestial Mechanics and Estimating the Termination of the Holocene”

Available at:
https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2022/egusphere-2022-569/egusphere-2022-569.pdf

(Found by googling “Eccentricity Half-Cycle Durations”.)

Reply to  Ric Howard
October 2, 2022 4:08 pm

You do it the way I did from the tool J. Laskar developed on his website that I cite in my paper. You can specify the time period of interest, the mesh size, and the parameters you want to output. Once you have them in an output table you identify the maxima and minima and the time. That’s where the graphs come from in my paper.

October 2, 2022 10:59 am

I argued 15 years ago that there has to be a solar variability component to the recent glacial sequence. To explain the irregular inter-glacial intervals, the minor inter-glacial events, and also the noise of D-O events and Heinrich events. And that the periods of planets ordering solar variability would have to coincide over very long periods with the planets dominating Earth’s orbital variations.

The compound intervals between 17c to 15a, 15e to 13a, 9e to 7b, and also with the minor peaks before and after 11c, are at the best long term harmony of the stable cycle of the four planets ordering sunspot cycles and centennial solar minima, at 1726.62 years, with the grand synodic cycle of the four gas giants at 4627.5 years. The latter would be modulating the former. They are at a ratio of 67:25, at 115684 years. Which minus the more regular 84600 year inter-glacial interval, gives around 31080 years for the shorter intervals between 15e to 15a, 7e to 7a, and 5e to 5a.

Then over 369,000 years the fit with obliquity cycles is good,

GlacialSequence.PNG
October 2, 2022 10:15 pm

Figure 2 shows the strongest signal at 100 ky, eccentricity, for almost every component in the record, including CO2. Obliquity signals are more prominent than precession. Only RickWill’s inferred sea level shows precession higher. John, your evaluation discusses precession as a key driver, yet earth’s past records retain this as the weakest signal or influence.

Lastly, eccentricity and obliquity dominance have changed over geologic time often seen in wavelet analysis of oxygen isotopes.

Wim Röst
Reply to  Renee
October 5, 2022 3:51 pm

Renee:
Figure 2 shows the strongest signal at 100 ky, eccentricity, for almost every component in the record, including CO2.”

“John, your evaluation discusses precession as a key driver, yet earth’s past records retain this as the weakest signal or influence.”

WR: Figure 2 is about Vostok ice core data: yearly data. Precession has a strong seasonal signal. Summer heat is supposed to melt the ice caps. Since 800,000 years the rhythm of glacials is about 100.000 years instead of 40,000 years. My guess: the cooling deep oceans play a role. See:
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Cold deep oceans result in 1-2 million km3 of very cold upwelling deep ocean water, during a glacial possibly even more because of a higher pole to equator temperature gradient. Because of the very low temperatures of the deep oceans, all possible summer warming is needed to cause sufficient melt of ice and snow to escape the glacial situation: with super-cold oceans obliquity isn’t anymore sufficient. Precession is an important factor in summer warming and precession became necessary to get an interglacial during the last 800.000 years. When NH summers are warm, the warm surface layer of the oceans extends further poleward, resulting in a smaller temperature gradient with the equator. The result of a smaller temperature gradient is a diminished wind strength over the oceans, resulting in less mixing of the surface layer with the cold layers below, further raising surface temperatures. Together with temporary high insolation because of precession, this results in much warmer ocean surfaces which cause NH warming and so enhance NH ice and snow melt.

My guess: precession surely plays a large role by changing weather patterns (winds) and oceans and in this way resulting in a higher temperature rise than possible by only obliquity and eccentricity. Some important extras have to be added.

The importance of precession on NH temperatures is clearly shown by the greening of the Sahara which is precession dependent. It is important to understand the greening of the Sahara from a meteorological point of view. What is needed to get the Sahara green is ‘just a little bit more heat’. Think about the situation of present pre-monsoon India (which is even on two sides surrounded by oceans) where nevertheless temperatures have to rise to 45+ degrees Celsius before the relatively dry air over Land causes enough convection to start the monsoon season. After the first rains surface temperatures drop by some 10 degrees: humidity enables high convection at much lower temperatures. Light water vapor molecules enormously diminish the density of the air. Let’s transplant this situation to the dry Sahara.

The actual dry Sahara misses enough moisture to cause strong monsoon rains over the Sahel and more to the north. Without a favorable precession, the Sahara also misses enough heat. Precession has a huge consequence on regional and world climate(s) and also on the average NH temperatures during its short but intense summer warming. The reason is….. the main greenhouse gas water vapor. Humid monsoon conditions over a green Sahara have two main effects:
1. Weather patterns shift worldwide. The higher moisture degree causes more low pressure over the Sahara where we find a higher pressure during drier and colder periods like during present winters. The present summer period (look at the above link for the month of July) shows a strong high-pressure area centered over the North Atlantic Ocean, more especially over the North Atlantic Gyre: well-collecting heat, well evaporating, and well raising the salinity of the upper layer, finally leading to high latitude deep downwelling. Deep downwelling of high saline water at the high NH latitudes causes what is called ‘heat piracy’: in the deep disappearing surface water must be replenished by warm surface water from the SH equatorial Atlantic ocean. SH heat is brought to the NH hemisphere, adding to NH temperatures.
2. A green Sahara results in a much higher moisture degree over the previously dry deserts. While water vapor is the main greenhouse gas, over a large now humid area spaceward surface emission immediately gets absorbed. The same for the whole warming NH: a higher moisture degree results. The high water vapor content considerably diminishes spaceward radiative heat loss over the NH, further enhancing the heating of the glacial NH and further enabling the melt of ice and snow. Etc. etc. A self-inforcing ‘chain of events’, only starting at the highest insolation during the Summer months.

Thanks to precession.

David Solan
October 3, 2022 9:30 am

It doesn’t matter too much whether Earth’s periods of orbital change vary
with time at any precise frequency, as far as Milankovitch cycles are
concerned. There are absolutely no changes to the insolation experienced
by the entire earth due to either change in the obliquity of its rotation
axis over time or change (caused by orbital eccentricity combined with
rotational obliquity and precession) in the synchronization of its
perihelion with its tilt axis in relation to the Sun, due to the
precession of that obliquity over time. And changes to the insolation
experienced by the entire earth due to the eccentricity of its elliptical
orbital path around the Sun are insignificant and couldn’t even begin to
account for the vast changes in the temperature of the earth that occur
during an ice age. None of these three things could cause any significant
changes to Earth’s temperature if it weren’t for three key factors (see
below). Also, any changes to Earth’s temperature due to the “extreme
cyclonic weather at the poles primarily caused by the Coriolis Force” have
pitifully nothing to do with Milankovitch’s theory or, for that matter,
with the temperature of the earth in general. And “earth’s particular
climate response to changes in insolation at northern latitudes” is
another red herring (there are no such changes to total Earth insolation
suggesting there should be no GLOBAL temperature change).

The author did come close when he referred to “the insolation at northern
latitudes where ice and snow can accumulate on the earth’s comparatively
large landmass of the northern hemisphere”. But then he kept on
conflating insolation at northern latitudes with general insolation of the
entire earth, and, in his replies, mostly ignored those three key factors.
And once or twice he, though not most commentators (except rah), did
mention those three key factors, but only in passing. And it is those
three key factors that tell, practically, the WHOLE Milankovitch story.
No need to make this complicated. See, for example, Tzedakis, P.C., et
al., A simple rule to determine which insolation cycles lead to
interglacials, Nature 542, 427-432 (2017).

What are those three key factors? They are sufficient amounts of: land,
water, and ice … on the surface of the earth … all the time. Number
one, there is a lot more land in the northern hemisphere where snow, from
precipitation, and ice, can potentially accumulate (and not float into the
oceans and melt). Number two, if summer temperatures on that northern
land, and only on that northern land, and only during its summer, are low
enough, the land ice from the previous winter won’t all melt away before
the next winter begins. Number three, if that land ice doesn’t all melt
away, but instead accumulates, winter after winter, then it eventually
builds so high that it starts to move, as glaciers, south. And the
consequence of those ever-spreading glaciers is very large decreases in
the temperature of the entire earth due to the increased reflectivity of
that ever-growing ice. Voila! We have an ice age. No need to get into a
dither about other “specific physical mechanisms”. And because this is an
example of meteorological positive feedback — more accumulated snow means
more reflectivity means lower temperatures means still more accumulated
snow (a “tipping point”) — we get a doozy of a temperature drop. And
that’s it. None of that other stuff, especially CO2 — just that. Is
anyone listening?

David Solan

gbaikie
Reply to  David Solan
October 3, 2022 11:50 am

Global warming is all about the ocean.
And global warming is all about causing a more uniform global average temperature.
And global cooling is drier global air.

“More than 90 percent of the warming that has happened on Earth over the past 50 years has occurred in the ocean.”
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-ocean-heat-content
I would say recent warming is like all global warming- all global warming involves more than 90% of global warming warming the entire ocean.
Our entire ocean average temperature has average temperature of about 3.5 C.
And our cold ocean is why we are in an ice house global climate.
If our ocean was 2 C warmer, we would still be in an ice house climate, or we still have
a cold ocean with average temperature of about 5.5 C.
But if our ocean had average temperature of about 5 C it would huge effect upon global warming.
No one thinks that ocean got as warm as 5 C in the last million years, but it is commonly said
that our ocean has been 4 C or warmer.
When our ocean is 4 C or warmer during in interglacial period, it is the warmest time of the interglacial period. And it is same time that Sahara desert is green and called African humid
period: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_humid_period

It’s taught in elementary school the human evolved when Africa had drier periods- trees gave
way to grasslands. Both humans and polar bears evolved during colder periods on Earth.
Anytime we have had global warming, the Sahara Desert becomes most grasslands, and rivers and lakes and some amount of forests, and that is called African humid period which lasts for many thousands of years. And thought such African humid periods are related to human migration to the rest of the world.
And would appear that in order to have a African humid period, one needs ocean of 4 C or warmer.