Note from Jane Menton: The OG MC (Francis Menton) is currently recovering from Covid and will return later this week.
One of my roles here at Manhattan Contrarian is acting as the cultural correspondent and translator, giving some insight into the views and beliefs of the millennial generation and younger. Unfortunately, it gets harder every day to present those views as rational when they’re so often based on magical thinking. For example, the same people who have been haranguing us for years for not doing enough to end our dependence on fossil fuels – the same ones who cheered the shutdown of the Keystone Pipeline – now can’t believe the prices they must pay for gas. The same people who thought stimulus checks were the bare minimum the government could do for people struggling during COVID, are now shocked by surging inflation. “Buying less alcohol so that when I sell my kidneys they get a better price,” reads one quote in the article about inflation.
All the articles linked above are from Buzzfeed. For members of the older generation who may not be *in the know,* (aka, my dad the Manhattan Contrarian) Buzzfeed is the primary cultural hub for the millennial generation. It’s a one-stop shop, covering everything from pop culture to news. I sometimes doubt my generation reads anything else (forget the Wall Street Journal). I follow it too, occasionally because it’s entertaining, and mostly because I have to follow it in order to know what my peers are thinking and feeling.
One of the most useful things Buzzfeed does is collect the soundbites on current events from young “influencers”. Multiple times a week, Buzzfeed puts together twitter roundups on different subjects – e.g. gas prices, climate change, dating as a queer 20-something – that can be neatly summarized as “What the Cool Young People are Saying.”
I read these roundups at the end of every week, and every week it gets harder and harder to ignore the glaring contradictions in millennial thinking on policy. Just last week I read one such roundup of complaints about our current economy and inflation that was stunning in its complete lack of awareness. A few excerpts:
We’re all supposed to cheer along with these tweeters’ outrage, as if there’s any surprise gasoline prices are rising when, in his first few months in office in 2021, Biden pledged he would prevent oil companies from drilling on federal land, pledged to ban fracking, blocked construction of oil and gas pipelines, and so on. Or as if inflation isn’t the natural consequence of dumping $4.6 trillion of newly-printed money into a stalled economy.
Meanwhile, here are excerpts from another roundup of tweets on Buzzfeed, this one from 2017, complaining that we aren’t doing enough about climate change. Of course, this was back when gas was affordable:
It is remarkable that Buzzfeed can promote these twitter roundups without ever seeming to realize that suppressing fossil fuel production in an effort to address climate change would ultimately cause the price of gasoline to go up. How could the editors of these lists not see that raising gasoline prices, such that people are forced to use less of it, is not a policy accident. It is part of the plan. It is in fact the most important feature of the plan. A plan they have spent years advocating for.
And how could they not realize that the ramifications from rising oil and gas prices would trickle down throughout the entire economy, affecting all of our everyday expenses: the cost to grow food (using modern, fossil fuel-enabled technology), to heat a home, to drive a car, to buy a plane ticket? How could they not see that they are the source of their own problems?
We can only hope that prolonged inflation and record high fuel prices are the wakeup calls this generation needs.
Price signals work when the difference in price makes one energy choice preferable over an alternative energy choice. Whilst the activist might be cheering on the current gas prices, as the trigger to get people into ev,s, it wont change anything longterm. By the time inflation has washed through the whole economy, comparable energy prices will simply be back to where we started except everything will be at a higher price point. You can only hope real wages increase so your standard of living is the same.
An increase in real wages would improve your standard of living. Perhaps you meant nominal wages?
Correct
Who suffers the most? People on a fixed income. Don’t think for a minute that most seniors get all their expenses paid by Social Security – they don’t. And the Dimocrats claim that they are the compassionate party – they aren’t.
The Democratic Party’s highest skills are in gaslighting the people they claim to be their constituents.
That right there is a keeper.
You go to Buzzfeed to be told what to think, contradictions and hypocrisy are part of the ideology.
I laughed back in the day when a coworker came up to a bunch of us and told us Buzzfeed is taking down a President.
To Buzzfeeds credit they broke the scandal of the World Wildlife Fund’s involvement in the criminal abuses of indigenous tribes and exposed the strange death of scientist Matthew Puncher linked to the Litvinenko poisoning ..
Baby it’s cold outside has nothing to do with climate
“The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where #MeToo has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place”
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/05/673770902/baby-it-s-cold-outside-seen-as-sexist-frozen-out-by-radio-stations?t=1655806277333
These young people have been indoctrinated – badly
That someone could get the lyrical content of a song so egregiously wrong made me wonder what is Emily Nussbaum? What’s the expertise, so to speak
Apparently it (see, gender neutral) is a television critic. Really!!!
“I really can’t stay (But, baby, it’s cold outside)
I’ve got to go away (But, baby, it’s cold outside)
This evening has been (Been hoping that you’d drop in)
So very nice (I’ll hold your hands, they’re just like ice)
My mother will start to worry (Beautiful, what’s your hurry?)
My father will be pacing the floor (Listen to the fireplace roar)
So, really, I’d better scurry (Beautiful, please don’t hurry)
But maybe just a half a drink more (Put some records on while I pour)
The neighbors might think (Baby, it’s bad out there)
Say, what’s in this drink? (No cab’s to be had out there)
I wish I knew how (Your eyes are like starlight now)
To break this spell (I’ll take your hat, your hair looks swell)
I ought to say, “No, no, no, sir” (Mind if I move in closer?)
At least I’m gonna say that I tried (What’s the sense of hurtin’ my pride?)
There’s atmosphere, but no climate.
Mark Steyn featured this title on his “song of the week” section back in 2014. Interesting history. A clever and sly song for the time and originally written just for private performances.
When I read that tweet, I could have sworn it was satire, like something from the Babylon Bee. I remember recently (last year or year before) when that song was criticized for being sexist or promoting masculine sexual advances or whatever…
One complaint was that as a duet, it was sung by a male singer and his daughter, at one point. Can’t remember who now. But the connotation was not good.
Then the complainant was ignorant. The song was originally written by Frank Loesser in 1944, and was sung by him and his wife, Lynn Garland, both vocalist entertainers, to indicate a party was over. An ending theme song, if you will.
Long before climate change fears, nothing to do with a daughter (but was featured in a film called Neptune’s Daughter – and Neptune didn’t sing it!), nothing to do with sexual harassment, and played loudly and frequently by me during the winter holidays.
Thank you! That is the true story of it.
Speaking of the movie, the best performance there was by Red Skelton. Absolutely hilarious as he tries to escape Betty Garrett’s character, singing the same song. (Montalban and Williams were also good, but the comedic counterpoint made the movie.)
Wups! Edit – there is also a very good version by Rod Stewart and Dolly Parton.
Apparently Lynn Garland (Mrs. Loesser) was a very prickly character, leading someone to quip that she was “the evil of two Loessers.”
What is Emily Nussbaum? “Nussbaum” = German for nut tree
The indoctrination is part of the problem. The schools have brainwashed them into believing in a socialist utopia. The mental gymnastics you see is because their mind is trying to reconcile the real world with the pseudo-world their propaganda masters told them about.
But, they are never wrong. For example, when biology and their ideas disagree, then biology is wrong. Biology says there are only two genders and that you are born into; therefore, biology is wrong because we say they are over 100 genders and you can choose which one you want at time in your entire life. Measured observation says the 1930’s was the hottest decade in American history; therefore, the measurements are wrong because ‘climate change’.
It’s almost like the Simpsons (one day Burns dances, all the other days he can barely move…), they adjust their alleged (non existent) worldview to the need of the day, like a lawyer for a client: elastic reality.
Fine for an officially non-serious TV show. Not fine for a “worldview”.
It must be mentally devastating.
You expect intelligence from todays youth? They have been so pampered, had their own ‘truths’ their own onions so glorified, they are totally incapable of self criticism.
Remember when they were at kiddy school, everyone got a gold medal! The kids are now all Einsteins today! Dont you know it!
I realise that it’s a harmless typo and doesn’t detract from your comment (I gave it an upvote), but I love the idea of someone having their “onions glorified”
Euphemism?
I hope so!
Made my eyes water when I read it.
It was the style at the time.
They should be glorified! Try to come up with any cuisine in the world that doesn’t use onions.
I have puzzled over the common use of the term “influencer.” It finally occurred to me that they are evangelists without a cause or substance. The”blind leading the blind” (Matthew 15:14).
A flight that would have been $200 round trip, 650
Back to the future and save one way with hydrogen babe-
Hindenburg Disaster: Real Zeppelin Explosion Footage (1937) | British Pathé – YouTube
The tragedy of the Hindenburg was that some of those people paid for a round trip.
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(OK, ok. It truly was tragic, but I couldn’t resist a little mockery of the millennials who expect to “Change the World” by destroying the energy sources that underpin modern society while also expecting all of the goodies to remain the same.)
Pythonesque humour would be lost on the petals.
Ya think that quip was a trigger, observa? Dark humor? Am I now a racist for that one?
You’re right, though. Here on WUWT, it is just some dark humor. Over on Buzzfeed it would go over like a Lead Zeppelin.
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(edit: the typo that I found. The rest of ’em I missed.)
They were so prescient on so many current issues! Roughly summarized from Life of Brian. I want you all to call me Loretta. Why do you want to be a woman Stan? I want to have babies.You can’t have babies, you haven’t got a womb – where is the fetus going to gestate? Are you going to keep it in a box? Don’t you oppress me! We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies brother — sister, sorry – even if you haven’t got a womb which is nobody’s fault, not even the Romans. Who could have believed that an absurd comedy sketch provided a more accurate prediction of what was going to happen than dozens of universities, sociology PhDs and various social policy ‘think tanks’?
Eric, Python didn’t clutch that purely out of thin air, it was group think in the Universities.
And when Supertramp wrote the ‘Logical Song’ it was another work of art mired in University think.
Perhaps the Strawbs ‘I’m a Union Man’ was another reflection of the pseudo Communism in education at that time.
The Life of Brian had a dig at just about every section of society, and managed to offend just about every thin-skinned humourless group around at the time.
Oh, and released some of the frustrations of having thad to learn Latin at school.
The latin lesson was wonderfully funny and absolutely encapsulated my experience of (sort of) learning the language
Load all the whiny crybullies onto hydrogen zeppelins.
The idea has serious merit. I had not thought of it.
The Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B has more room for them all.
Maybe it’s just me, but I thought air travel was supposed to be bad. CO2 emissions and all that.
CO2 polluters and Covid spreaders all in one. How dare they?
As I mentioned elsewhere, when Steven Koonin looked at IPCC’s reports he found they predicted that even at the end of this century the economic consequences of climate change would be small.
I see a net benefit of CO2, but the IPCC is a political organization…fossil fuels are bad 😉
The economic consequences of climate POLICY, on the other hand, are catastrophic.
I’d say that’s ironic, but I knew it all along.
Orwell wrote about an endless present in which the party is always right. The woke mob has no idea about historical fault because it is so last week.
We will see in the November mid-term elections whether or not the millennials realize they are on the wrong track. If they ignore the clear signs all around them that the US has lurched badly off schedule, then there is no hope for them. Which way this election goes appears to be a predictor of the future. Wait for it.
They seem to be so stupid they will still vote greentard and then moan and complain when it all goes crazy … #whereismyfreebies
Digital “checks” on the way. It helped during Covid 😉
What Democrats did in the few so-called battleground states in 2020 they are going to do in all Republican states this coming November except that their mules won’t be schlepping their cell phones around with them this time.
There’s nothing keeping the MAGA Militia from using cell phones to monitor known
“Pikup Andropov**” sites- Smile, you’re on Candid Camera! Or at least start a rumor that’s
what you’ll be doing!
**obvious Russian Collusion
And what will happen with all those recordings? Will they ever see the inside of a courtroom?
The threat of recordings may deter it. As for real recordings- worry about that
later!
No.
“We will see in the November mid-term elections whether or not the millennials realize they are on the wrong track.”
The latest poll I saw had 75 percent saying the U.S. was on the “wrong track” and 25 percent saying the U.S. was on the “right track”.
I assume that includes all age groups, so it appears millennials are also saying “wrong track”.
What I wonder about is who are these people who think the U.S. is on the right track? They have to be hard-core delusional, radical leftists/socialists/communists.
That’s Joe Biden’s and the Democrat’s base, about 25 percent of the population. Joe Biden and the Democrats do not speak for everyone, although they want us to think they do.
“What I wonder about is who are these people who think the U.S. is on the right track?”
They’re the ones who only identify as human.
They’re the ones who will volunteer to fight for the Democrats in the Second Democrat War, coming in 2025.
Well, the Australians got in first. They have just elected a Left/Green federal government. And they are already having power outages as a result of previous ‘conservative’ government policy which resulted in demolishing coal stations, or letting them run down. Essentially, they propose to spend trillions of dollars to provide expensive, unreliable and intermittent energy for a nation which already has cheap, reliable and consistent energy. To put this madness into context, Australia produces around 1% of global co2 emissions so nothing they do, one way or the other, will make any conceivable difference.
People get and deserve the government they elect. I can only hope the idiots they wanted so bad gives it to them so bad.
The problem is, they give it to US so bad, too!
I have discussed this for a couple of weeks .. the grentards got exactly what they wanted
1.) Fossil fuel prices are up just not because of a carbon tax.
2.) There is very tight fossil fuel market just like greentards demanded
So what the hell are they complaining about cost of living …. what did these geniuses think was going to happen?
If you want to extend that the greentards also demand all refugees should automatically be able to enter any country. Seriously what do they think is going to happen?
The funny part is a lot of inner city greentards claim they are highly educated 🙂
It looks like to me that the Buzzfeed crowd are all spitters (SPITR) and are all above average, just like the children of Lake Woebegone.
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It seems far too many of the millennials on the intelligence bell curve have a diploma that they mistakenly believe places them somewhere in the 5 to 6 sigma range. Education does not equal intelligence. Indoctrination is even worse.
Good marks in educational institutions actually means you indoctrinate easily.
For a select few, it means comprehension of the principles….
I keep seeing the phrase “highly educated” in reference to various folks. Yes, might be true, but there is a difference between that phrase and actual intelligence. I’d venture to say that most of the offensive, to me, millennials are actually book smart, but deficient in the skills of logical thinking and common sense. Which this article points out nicely.
Needless to say, I would think, is that the university system has totally failed to sufficiently prepared the graduates for the real world for decades. Thus, the “highly educated” ignoramuses, and highly delusional, at most levels of the education systems in this nation. And the world, in general. For that we all get to pay. For a while.
The problem is what they are educated about. A degree in Elbonian gender studies doesn’t prepare one for much. Still don’t know what end of the screwdriver is the working end.
I started university as a mature student (age 30) on a discharged army conscript program, so my bullshit detector was by then fairly well formed.
But even back then, the faculties were infested with communism sympathizers, too eager to promote their ideologies in lectures & tutorials.
Universities must be lunatic asylums these days, injecting leftist luncacy into naive youths at every turn.
Over-educated and under-medicated?
Welcome to The New Dark Age.
Quote^2:”Buying less alcohol so that when I sell my kidneys they get a better price,” reads one quote”
That says it all dunnit
Drinking less alcohol might help your liver, you can still buy as much as you like..
And the thing that wrecks kidneys is excess, unwanted or the wrong sort of protein
You have to be very Kareful with Cidneys
They are quite robust things: As a kidney owner and user, it’s only when you’ve destroyed 95% of their function that you first actually realise anything might be going wrong in there.
Anna dont think anyone is gonna want them in that sort of state are they?
Ha! I spotted that “wrong organ” bit too, Peta, but I left that sleeping dog lie.
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Nice takedown.
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I hope, hope, hope that person isn’t a med student.
Up until a couple of hours ago I had never heard of Buzzfeed, so I had a look.
I am now going for a lie down in a darkened room.
Me too, but then I thought that maybe WUWT should get down with the kids and produce something similar, what is Naomi Seibt doing at the moment?
The antidote would be a visit to The Babylon Bee.
This is why I’m praying for a very cold and long winter in the UK. Millennials need to know what it’s like to live without heating and light like we did at points in the 1970s. Perhaps then they might make the connection between living standards and energy use/fossil fuels.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the govt and media would not allow that narrative to fly, it would all be blamed on a lack of renewables/batteries/Brexit … etc.
Yes. Sometimes what you think should provide the needed lesson does exactly the opposite.
Their narcissistic view of what the world should be is insane & irrational as they have no clue about
how the real world works, no understanding of cause/effect. Boy will they be shocked when life
enrolls them in the “School of Hard Knocks”. They’re not going to like the high tuition they’ll pay!
Could that be why there are large homeless encampments in most large cities? Cuz the educated folks with useless degrees have suddenly discovered they can’t make a living with the bull they were fed by the universities. Could be. Thus, they seek drugs which allow them to continue to live in fantasy of a sorts. Hmmmm.
I thought Jane Menton did a good job filling in for her dad. Buzzfeed is not a site I’d visit – never have visited come to think of it – so I appreciate someone filling me in on what it is and illustrating the thought processes, or lack thereof, of the millennials populating Buzzfeed.
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My kid is 44 and just barely escaped the public education system’s indoctrination. I wasn’t going to get clued in about Buzzfeed from him. So, thanks again to Jane Menton for a good article.
You reap what you sow. Still, this lesson doesn’t seem to be sinking in yet.
There are a number of very funny things on BuzzFeed, but you have to ignore anything that is supposed to be news – that stuff is either unintentionally funny or infuriating (or both at the same time.) Though I don’t go there often, I get sent the funny stuff from my kids and will look around after it is done. I am almost 60.
Let us recap:
This generation got “Participation Trophies”, everybody is a winner.
They could do no wrong, every one of them was above criticism.
The schools used massive grade inflation so everybody got high grades.
The schools abandoned knowledge based curriculum altogether, learning was hard.
Students were taught what to think, not how to think.
So where are we now?
They are young adults now.
They believe they have a right to go all the way through life without anybody offending them.
They are offended by everything they do not agree with.
They are “triggered” by any and all new ideas. Triggering causes offense
And of course:
Since the start of the Biden (LGB).presidency, everything they do not like is racist.
As a result:
They are wholly unprepared for life as adults, incapable of learning from experience.
1) Massive Govt. spending is the #1 cause of inflation.
2) Restrict housing construction in any way and rents go up.
3) restrict oil supplies and energy costs go up.
The list goes on and on.
They do not, can not/will not learn from this.
Why?
They can not see cause and effect here. It is that simple.
We need to connect the dots for them. Then they can see it and understand.
In every instance we need to connect the dots and show cause and effect.
We have always assumed that people could connect the dots and see cause and effect on their own.
This generation can not. It was a bad assumption. If we do it for them, then maybe they can start learning.
“ If we do it for them, then maybe they can start learning.” No, they have to do it for themselves or they won’t learn. Having it done for them is how we got into this mess.
A calculated risk on my part
as you say:
“No, they have to do it for themselves or they won’t learn.“.
My point was, this has been done, they did not learn.
Ordinarily, I would tell them, go ahead and suffer, idiot.
In this case, it is a whole generation of idiots who are not learning. So what, let them all suffer. Fine.
Except:
They Have The Right To Vote.
They can vote, and they do vote.
As a direct consequence, we all must suffer the results of their stupidity.
A calculated risk on my part. Do one last thing for them, absolutely not out of altruism or any sense of duty.
I consider it an act of self preservation, acting in my own interest.
As I said, a calculated risk.
I hope this explanation clarifies my position for you.
Not only do they vote, but the socialists are pushing to drop the voting age to 16, so that more of them can vote.
Sort of explains why the founding fathers set it up so that only property owners could vote. Guess they figured that in order hang onto property most would have at least a few smarts :<)
“My point was, this has been done, they did not learn.”
Because there were no consequences.
His point is that the consequences now will be felt by all, not just the pampered idiots.
Not so much “do it for them”, as point out the relationship between the action and its effect on them. I suspect that many will not get it, but some will. Probably, due to some part of their brain realizing that the only other course is abject failure, and, in some instances, death due to not learning what is bad for them.
Remedial education may be required, much like dogs which have to be trained when in a household. Then, again, some will just choose to be cats. Some can be trained, others not so much.
Wow Tony. I live the reality of your post every day. I run a business. My company has 1 entry level position offering the opportunity to learn highly marketable skills and achieve rapid career advancement. It is by all measures, a golden opportunity for a young person to quickly gain financial independence in a low stress work environment; a working persons dream. For the past 8 years I’ve tried to lure people in the 19-22 years age range hoping they’ve not been fully indoctrinated by college experience. Get them early enough and I might have some chance of de-programing them and helping them to “connect the dots” as you put it. That was my thinking.
I’ve learned that sadly, it’s already too late. The psych profile you describe so perfectly is already so deeply ingrained by social media and high school teachers that getting them on the right path is essentially impossible. They cannot learn because they never do anything wrong and if they do, it’s always someone else’s fault. As you say, I try to “connect the dots” between cause and effect but I find that once you’ve offended them by pointing out a mistake, they shut you down as a mentor. They assume that since they cannot be wrong, you must be wrong and therefore you probably are always wrong. And so I turn them loose through the revolving door and hope for better luck with the next one, and the next one, and the next one….
This errant job listing would get a flood of overqualified applicants!
One of the main obstacles for gainful employment these days is that sub-35s believe a work environment must be “fun, entertaining, inclusive”, and these are the outcomes they focus on, not productivity.
“This generation got “Participation Trophies”, everybody is a winner.”
Where ? Because I know my sons never got any. They either won or lost in their respective interests.
Depends on where you lived. Not all municipalities bought into that nonsense.
Depends on location. Like todays current woke nonsense, some school boards go all in, others don’t.
I think you left out this part: Parents let all this idiocy happen.
“This generation got “Participation Trophies”, everybody is a winner.”
Correction. Nobody is a winner.
I think this is a place to but in. Virtually all the mess we are falling into has been intentionally pushed. Call it power hungry, communist, fascist, deluded, or just plain bad. The result of faulty thinking and faulty character gives the results we are seeing. Part of the education problem is that children “cannot be educated”. Education is not something that can be tossed to them or “put into” them. Each person builds their own education from the ground up, after some minor tutoring by parents for 4-6 years.
It’s probably time to put these ill-educated people into a “refresher” course- starting about where a 5-6 year old child is at mentally. The Army basic training would be a good place to start. The rigourous training can even reform the mind into a useful tool to accomplish things that an individual couldn’t do. The mindset is something like- “we do it THIS way because it works and it gets usable results”!
The people the current education system is turning out realize that “things are not turning out like I thought”. (I don’t think theings are turning out like the perpetrators thought either). There are still plenty of schools and teachers who understand how basic education should be handled. The government money could be easily re-directed.
Just thinking further, it is not just current graduates. There are at least 30 years worth of graduates who were partially indoctrinated and are turning up in education, politics, and some businesses.
“The Army basic training would be a good place to start.”
I’m not even sure that would work now. They’re now teaching Critical Race Theory (CRT) at West Point, and, at least according to a couple of news outlets, they’re starting to purge the services of anyone with a conservative bent. The U.S. Declaration of Independence and 1st Amendment be damned.
Pink Floyd came pretty close all the way back in 1975, with “Welcome to the Machine”:
Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
Where have you been?
It’s alright we know where you’ve been
You’ve been in the pipeline
Filling in time
Provided with toys and scouting for boys
You brought a guitar to punish your ma
And you didn’t like school
And you know you’re nobody’s fool
So welcome to the machine
Welcome my son
Welcome to the machine
What did you dream?
It’s alright we told you what to dream
You dreamed of a big star
He played a mean guitar
He always ate in the Steak Bar
He loved to drive in his Jaguar
So welcome to the machine
I think Pink Floyd actually got closer to the mark on “The Wall” –
“We don’t need no education”
“We don’t need no thought control”
There is little that is rational when one’s brain functions on magical thinking.
My only knowledge of Buzzfeed prior to today was quizzes from them on the UK Daily Mail. Usually described as very tricky/difficult. In reality very simple even for a non-American.
Now I understand why there is a disconnectiin.
Only a true genius can answer half of these questions
10 easily answered multiple-choice questions
“Wow, I’m a genius! Anyone who disagrees with me on anything must be wrong!”
A century ago, it was the birthright of the idle rich to be as reckless as possible without going too far
& ending one’s life. P G Wodehouse heartily lampooned them in his “Jeeves” stories, from which the
1990s “Jeeves & Wooster” series was based upon. I really enjoyed them the first time I saw them on
Puberty BS- the “ne’er-do-wells” were hilarious. Twenty yrs later when I saw them again, I found them
revolting as wokesters- the pentultimate “ne’er-do-wells”- began ruining- I mean ruling- the roost!
Taking into account productivity for the same power output the installation and running of:
Hi Walter. Do you have any source that can support your estimations? I’m very interested to get this information because it’s not always easy to get good sources to support what seems to be obvious, mainly considering the cycle of the products and the support and control structure to produce energy from intermittent sources. It’s obvious that these so called renewables cost a lot more space, money and are rather inefficient and are a menace for the environment in many ways.
Once I read Walter’s list I found a 48V 96Ahr deep cycle lithium battery for $2,699. That works out to $225 per 5 cents at our utility rate here. The actual number will cover a very broad range depending on local $ per kWhr rate, economy of scale etc. But the essential point is the same.
The numbers really impress and I have no doubts that all this idea (mainly battery backups) will be a ruin to us all. However it would be great to have a credible source with all the possible math. I am a geologist and I know how and from where these things come from. The production cycle of a battery, from A (mining) to Z (disposal) should be teach to all climate alarmists at least twice a day :-). The same should be implemented for wind generators and solar panels.
That last item on your list should be an eye-opening statistic. So much money spent to provide a utility with so little present value. One consequence of it which I have stated before at the Manhattan Contrarian site is that we can’t afford the capitalized cost of battery storage. It would require everything we can save and produce to just maintain the system in perpetuity.
amazingly? that disconnect has always been their defining feature.
It isn’t generational. Americans want what they want and they want someone else to pay for it. From auto company & bank bailouts, to all the COVID money, to renewable subsidies, to student debt “forgiveness” it is all the same.
The US national anthem should be changed to the Jane’s Addiction song “Been Caught Stealing”—“when I want something I don’t want to pay for it—it’s mine”
Great comment, but it isn’t even American. It’s human. I have a cynical view that government was invented to regulate theft.
To be fair, none of the Buzzfeed Millennials are old enough to have experienced significant inflation first-hand. Inflation was something old people had in the last century. A world of inflation may impose a hard lesson on these youngsters.
Kind of sad that you care what your “peers” think. Most of them are idiots.
“People pretend to work and the government pretends to pay.” – Old Soviet Saying
“How could the editors of these lists not see… etc., etc.”
Maybe the editors do see. Maybe they approve of the idiocy in society causing all the trouble.
Buzzfeed provide a place for people to blow off steam. They’re temporizing until the idiocies are concreted in place and the problems become accepted as normal.
The new utopia. Not like the old utopia. The old utopia was a cornucopia of plenty, happiness, sunlight, and serenity. In the new one, degraded lives are lived. To save the planet.
The arrogance, the hubris, the idiocy of these people is beyond the fringe of sane.
…and of course the more people coming into the country increases demand for places to live and, what do you know, house prices and rents rise. Shocker!
There are a lot of twits tweeting on Twitter. Share your entire wisdom in less than 280 characters. Bring back the 140 limit.
That viewpoint is most certainly is not confined to that generation.
I now understand that the movie Idiocracy was in fact a documentary.
The saddest thing is that the people of Idiocracy were actually smarter than we. President Camacho realized the problem and found the smartest man on earth (“Not Sure”) to solve it.
And promised him an evening of “rehabilitation” vs a flame-throwing monster truck driven by Beef Supreme if he failed.
He didn’t fail.
(I’m still surprised that “Ow My Balls” is not on cable somewhere by now.)
How can they not see it?
They’re idiotic morons, that’s how.
So completely lacking in self awareness
“How could they not see that they are the source of their own problems?”
HAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAhaaahaaahaaaaahahahaha.
Um
Because they’re leftists. Duh.
chuckle
“how can those fish not understand that they’re wet?”
[wipes tears from eyes]
Thanks for that. I needed some humor in my life.
I still suspect the widespread use of recreational mind-altering drugs are altering minds in ways we do not fully understand.
The lack of critical thinking skills by young and old, the rapid surge in random acts of violence, gender dysphoria, etc. all point to fundamental failures in understanding and accepting reality.
Nah, the good old recreational drugs of the 1970s and 1980s — weed and coke — helped to create the excellent music and blazing economies of the 1980.
It was when we started diagnosing normal rowdy young boys with Aspberger’s and such, and poisoning them with Ritalin and other “behavior-adjusting” drugs that the real damage was done.
“Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other.” Ben Franklin
Buzzfeed is NOT a cultural hub of the younger generation. I know not one GenZ ever mention.
Discord, Instagram, and Reddit.