Reposted from Dr. Judith Curry’s Climate Etc.
15 minutes
Posted on September 3, 2021 by curryja |
by Judith Curry
In a recent invited talk at the American Chemical Society annual meeting, I attempted to explain the climate debate in 15 minutes.
This talk was given in a session on sustainability. Other invited speakers included James Green (NASA Chief Scientist), Marilyn Brown (Georgia Tech) . Our talks were followed by a panel discussion. This was an extremely interesting session, but was not recorded owing to an ACS glitch (you can read the abstracts at the link above).
Ok, with the new word press editor, no idea how the ppt file will show up. Below is the text of my remarks.
Slide 2 IPCC
The climate crisis can be summarized as:
- Its warming
- The warming is caused by us
- Warming is dangerous
- We need to urgently transition to renewable energy to stop the warming
- Once we stop burning fossil fuels, sea level rise will stop and the weather won’t be so extreme
A few weeks ago, the Intergovernmetal Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC, issued its 6th Assessment report. In response, the secretary general of the UN stated that
“This is code red for humanity.”
Slide 3 what’s wrong with this narrative
In my talk today, I’m going to present you with a different perspective on the climate change problem and how we can approach solutions.
So what’s wrong with the crisis narrative? It is my assessment that
- We’ve vastly oversimplified both the problem and its solutions
- The complexity and uncertainty surrounding climate change is being kept away from the public and policy debates.
- Rapid reductions in emissions are technologically and politically infeasible on a global scale
- And it overemphasizes the role of climate change in societal problems, distracting from real solutions to them.
Slide 4 97% consensus
Even people that don’t know much about climate science have heard that 97% of climate scientists agree. But exactly what do they agree on? Not nearly as much as is portrayed in the media. Everyone agrees that:
- Surface temperatures have increased since 1880
- Humans are adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, and
- Carbon Dioxide and other greenhouse gases have a warming effect on the planet
However, there is disagreement on the most consequential issues:
- How much of the recent warming has been caused by humans
- How much the planet will warm in the 21st century
- Whether warming is ‘dangerous’
- And how we should respond to the warming, to improve human well being
Slide 5 21st century warming
For policy making, the most consequential issue is how much warming we can expect in the 21st century. This figure from the latest IPCC report shows climate model simulations of global surface temperature anomalies over the 21st century. There’s a large range of warming shown in this diagram, from 1.5 to more than 4 degrees centigrade above pre-industrial temperatures. We’ve already warmed by about 1 degree centigrade, so whether the future warming is on the low or high end has huge implications for climate policy. The largest amount of warming is associated with an extreme emissions scenario, SSP-8.5.
These simulations should not be regarded as predictions for the following reasons:
- First, and most importantly, the IPCC does not include future scenarios of natural climate variability. These include solar variability, volcanic eruptions and multi-decadal ocean circulation patterns.
- Second, the IPCC does not assess the plausibility of the different emissions scenarios
Slide 6 Emissions scenarios
There are two primary factors that contribute to this large range of temperatures for the 21st century. The first is the emissions scenarios, which determine how much CO2 is added to the atmosphere, these are indicated by the SSPs. The second factor is the sensitivity of warming to a given amount of added CO2.
On the previous slide, recall that the largest amount of warming was associated with the emissions scenario SSP-8.5. The IPCC 5th Assessment Report regarded the 8.5 scenario to be our most likely future, and it was referred to as the business-as-usual scenario.
However, its becoming increasingly apparent that the 8.5 scenarios are implausibly high. The two lines at the bottom of this figure show projections of emissions made by the International Energy Agency out to 2040. The higher projection shows the expected emissions based on current policies, and the lower projection is based on current commitments under the Paris Agreement. Both of these show fairly steady emissions through 2040, that are much lower than the 8.5 scenarios.
Nevertheless, the most recent IPCC report emphasizes the 8.5 scenario. Not surprisingly, this extreme emissions scenario is the source of alarming impacts.
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The second major source of uncertainty is the sensitivity of the global temperatures to a doubling of CO2. For decades, the likely range for climate sensitivity has been between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees centigrade, which is reflected by the assessment from the IPCC AR5 published in 2013.
The red bars in this figure shows the range of climate sensitivity from the most recent climate model simulations. The sensitivity values range from 1.8 to 5.7 degrees, and overall are much higher than those from the AR5, whose highest value was 4.6 degrees
The IPCC AR6 substantially narrowed the likely range of climate sensitivity to between 2.5 and 4 degrees, rejecting the highest values from the climate models. However this narrowing of the range is disputed, particularly on the low end. The whole issue of climate sensitivity to CO2 remains unsettled, with a high level of uncertainty.
The bottom line here is some good news. The extreme tail risks from global warming, associated with very high emissions and high climate sensitivity, have shrunk and are now regarded as unlikely if not implausible.
Slide 7 Is warming dangerous
The next area of disagreement takes us away from science and into the realm of values. How dangerous is global warming? The IPCC 5th Assessment Report used a burning embers diagram to portray reasons for concern. The level of concern increases with the amount of global warming. Note that the IPCC does not use the words ‘dangerous’, ‘crisis’ or ‘catastrophe’ in its report; rather it uses ‘reasons for concern.’
Any evaluation of dangerous climate change must confront the Goldilocks principle. Exactly which climate state is too hot versus too cold? Some answer this question by stating that the climate we’re adapted to is ‘just right’. However, the IPCC uses a preindustrial baseline, in the late 1700’s. Why anyone thinks that this is an ideal climate is beyond me. This was during the Little Ice Age, the coldest period of the millennia. Think George Washington and the horrible winters at Valley forge.
While the categories of concern in the burning embers diagram seem a bit nebulous, the 6th assessment report focused on extreme weather and climate events. Lets take a look.
Slide 8 Extreme events
The recent IPCC report did not detect any global trends in flooding, meteorological or hydrological drought, winter storms or tornadoes. Trends were identified in heat waves, heavy rainfall events and fire weather.
The report concluded that it is likely that the global proportion of major hurricanes has increased over the last four decades. Global hurricane data supports this conclusion. However, there’s a large amount of natural variability in hurricane activity.
The diagram on the left shows the number of major hurricanes that have struck the U.S. since 1900. The year 2005 stands out as the highest, which was followed by a period of 11 years with no major hurricane landfalls. Also, there were a large number of major hurricane landfalls during the first half of the 20th century, when surface temperatures were significantly cooler
The large amount of natural variability makes it difficult to identify meaningful trends, and even more difficult to attribute any trend to manmade global warming.
The right hand side shows US heat waves, which have been the big climate story this past summer. As the global average temperature increases, it makes sense that heat extremes would increase and cold extremes would decrease. However, reality isn’t so simple. This figure from the EPA shows that heat waves in the 1930’s were horrendous and much worse than in recent decades, even though the average global temperature was significantly lower in the 1930’s.
An important issue is the mortality associated with heat events. Numerous studies have found that there are more deaths from cold events than from heat events, by as much as an order of magnitude. The inescapable conclusion is that more warming leads to fewer deaths from temperature extremes. So which would Goldilocks prefer?
Slide 9 Adapting
So far, the world has done a decent job at adapting to weather extremes climate change. The upper left figure shows the change in yield for major crops, with yields for many crops doubling or even quadrupling since 1960.
The figure in the lower left shows losses from global weather disasters as a percent of GDP. The spikes are associated with years that showed large losses from tropical cyclones. Overall for the past 30 years, there has actually been a slight decline in losses.
The diagram in the lower right shows the number of deaths per million people from weather and climate catastrophes. The large numbers early in the 20th century were mostly associated with tropical cyclone landfalls in south Asia. Over the past century, climate related deaths have dropped 97%.
Slide 10 urgently reduce emissions
Under the auspices of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, the world is attempting to reach netzero in carbon emissions by 2050. I refer to this as Plan A.
Using the precautionary principle, Plan A is based on the premise that rapidly reducing CO2 emissions is critical for preventing future dangerous warming of the climate.
The other side of the policy debate rejects the urgency of reducing emissions. They argue that any near term reduction in warming would be minimal and at high cost. An effective strategy requires global reduction in emissions, which is highly unlikely for developing countries.
They argue that its best to focus on keeping economies strong and making sure that everyone has access to energy. And finally, the argument is made that there are other more pressing problems than climate change that need to be addressed with the available resources.
Slide 11 Emissions
In spite of the numerous UN treaties and agreements to reduce emissions, the atmospheric CO2 concentration relentlessly continues to increase
The challenge to getting to netzero by 2050 is illustrated by this diagram from the International Energy Agency. This figure shows the pathways for emissions reductions that the major economies need to take to reach netzero by 2050. Europe and the US have already turned the corner, but they still have a very steep path to netzero. By 2050, global emissions will be dominated by whatever China and India have done, or have failed to do.
The IEA roadmap finds that there is a possible but very narrow pathway to netzero by 2050, provided that there’s a huge leap in energy innovation and major efforts to build new infrastructure. Others find that reaching netzero by 2050 is a social and technological impossibility.
Slide 12 Wicked mess
How did we come to the point where we’re alleged to have a future crisis on our hands, but the primary solution of rapid global emissions reductions is deemed to be impossible? The source of this conundrum is that we have mischaracterized climate change as a tame problem, with a simple solution. Climate change is better characterized as a wicked mess. A wicked problem is complex with dimensions that are difficult to define and changing with time. A mess is characterized by resistance to change and contradictory and suboptimal solutions that create additional problems.
In decision making, a problem is associated with deep uncertainty if prediction models are inadequate, there is heavy reliance on subjective judgment, and there is disagreement on desirable alternative outcomes.
For such situations, treating a problem as if its tame can result in a situation where the cure is not only ineffective, but worse than the disease.
We clearly need a Plan B, that broadens the climate policy envelope. By considering climate change as a wicked mess, climate change can be reframed as a predicament for actively reimagining human life. Such a narrative can expand our imaginative capacity and animate political action while managing social losses.
Slide 13 pragmatism
Here’s a framework for how we can get to a Plan B.
In addressing the climate change problem, we need to remind ourselves that climate isn’t an end in itself, and that climate change isn’t the only problem that the world is facing. The objective should be to improve human wellbeing in the 21st century, while protecting the environment as much as we can. Climate-informed decision making that focuses on food, energy, water and ecosystems will support human wellbeing in the coming decades.
We need to recognize that how the climate of the 21st century will play out is a topic of deep uncertainty. Once natural climate variability is accounted for, it may turn out to be relatively benign. Or we may be faced with unanticipated surprises.
Alarmism about climate change misleads us and panic makes us less likely to tackle climate change smartly.
A more pragmatic approach to dealing with climate change drops the timelines and emissions targets, in favor of accelerating energy innovation. Whether or not we manage to drastically curtail our carbon dioxide emissions in the coming decades, we need to reduce our vulnerability to extreme weather and climate events.
So what does a plan B look like? Local solutions that secure the common interest can avoid political gridlock. There are a lot of relatively small things that we can do to reduce atmospheric CO2 and other greenhouse gases, that have justifications independent of climate mitigation. Individual countries and states can serve as laboratories for solutions to their local environmental problems and climate-related risks.
Progress can be made on a number of fronts related to land use, forest management, agriculture, water resource management, waste management, among many others. Human wellbeing will be improved as a result of these efforts, whether or not climate change turns out to be a huge problem and whether or not we manage to drastically reduce our emissions.
Slide 14
Encroachment of politics into socially-relevant science is unavoidable. Problems arise from many sources, and scientists, policy makers and the media are all culpable. The issue of greatest concern to me is when scientists filter research results and their public statements of facts with an eye to downstream political use. Governments exacerbate this by funding a narrow range of projects that support their preferred policies.
Climate science is far from the only area of science that has been politicized. Others include COVID19, gender studies, genetically modified food. Cancel culture is alive and well in the sciences, where scientists that disagree with an interpretation that supports desired policy objectives are ostracized, with some even losing their jobs.
Slide 15 Personal statement
In conclusion, a personal statement. I regard my job as a scientist to critically evaluate evidence and to challenge and reassess conclusions drawn from the evidence. While I regard manmade climate change as a cause for concern, I do not view this as a crisis or an apocalypse.
This perspective has placed me at odds with the activist branch of the climate science community, who regard my perspective as inconvenient. The academic political pressures from activist scientists and even politicians caused me to retire prematurely from my tenured faculty position.
I’m now working in the private sector, helping businesses to understand and manage their weather and climate related risks.
I am also active in engaging with policy makers and the public. I have a blog Climate Etc. that provides a forum for scientists and the interested public to engage in discussion on topics related to climate science and the science-policy interface.
JC remarks
Well its been awhile since I’ve had an invited talk in a mainstream academic venue. 15 minutes is longer than 5 minutes, but this is still alot of territory to cover. This is the first thing I’ve written publicly on the IPCC AR6. I have been crazy busy for months, currently exacerbated by hurricanes.
I do have some material in the pipeline for blog posts, i will try hard not to let two weeks pass between posts.
Conducting my own, independent analysis about 20 years ago when I came to work in “higher” education, I came to essentially the same conclusions as Dr. Curry and began presenting this at various administrative conferences and living it out as I attempted to steer environmental policies at a major university system. The enemy within are leftist and activist faculty, “sustainability” offices, and social justice warriors who repeatedly lie and actively suppress free expression. I challenge them, “If climate turns out to NOT be a major or urgent issue (which it isn’t but they won’t admit it), what would you be doing differently?” I am chagrined that supposedly intelligent and educated scientists rarely bother to independently work through the issues and reach their own conclusions. They simply parrot what they have heard. Woe unto the young person today who seeks after a career in academia and research.
“Using the precautionary principle, Plan A is based on the premise that rapidly reducing CO2 emissions is critical for preventing future dangerous warming of the climate.”
Under the precautionary principle we wouldn’t scrap the energy plants that modern life depends on until we have reliable substitutes.
We’ve just in the last 50 years erased famines as a common feature around the world, due in large part to mechanized agriculture, transport, and fertilizer from fossil fuels. World population is now starting to moderate but its doubled in the last 50 years.
Like everything else to do with the “climate” bullshit, the Precautionary Principle is applied selectively.
I think there is too much quibbling over less important details. Dr. Curry scores a bullseye with her primary arguments. Her point about developing economies having much higher priorities at the moment than the arrogant and condescending elitist angst over a climate problem that probably isn’t a problem speaks directly to what is really important. As for Griff I doubt he really exists. The sole purpose of a “Griff” is provide ignorant comment fodder.
In addition to temperature, what is the Goldilocks value for CO2 in the atmosphere? <200 ppm is bad and >10000 ppm is probably bad too. But what is the optimal range for animal and plant life in Earth?
After thinking about Dr. Curry’s presentation for a day, I believe she has hit upon a way to successfully oppose the UN (and others) plan to use “climate change” as the means to change the world economic system from Capitalism to Socialism.
The official name for opposition to the COP Paris Climate Accord with it’s CO2 accounting system, should be “PLAN B” in bold caps. It should be based on DR. Curry’s four points:
Food
Energy
Water
Ecosystems
If all those opposed to the ruin of our western society,(for instance the Republican Party) got behind a 2 word slogan it might have an impact.
“first half of the 20th century, when surface temperatures were significantly cooler”
This is not a fact! I was born in the 1930s and although too young to offer a personal assessment, to my extended family and their friends it was the highlight of their lives, and I heard the Dust Bowl stories well into my teens.
James Hansen was most disappointed when the peak super El Niño of 1998, failed to break the records of the 1930s -mid 1940s. He, at first, comforted himself that the Lower 48 was only 3% of the globe.
That seemed somewhat reasonable until I began to learn that this hot period was pretty much repeated around the world. Before the orchestrated campaign to jigger global charts to create the 1980s and 90s high warming period, the pre-jiggered charts for Canada, Greenland, Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Paraguay, Ecuador and others looked just like that of the US. Here is the Capetown, S. Af. example: (tell me why these almost identical temperature patterns aren’t corroboratory!)
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/clip_image0022.gif
It would up the game in Climate Science to read up on Bertrand Russell’s ‘Tea Pot’
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
Gary: “James Hansen was most disappointed when the peak super El Niño of 1998, failed to break the records of the 1930s -mid 1940s.”
I think that’s right. Hansen and the other alarmists were counting on the temperatures to continue to climb after 1998, and were expecting the temperatures to exceed those in the 1930’s, and then their CAGW (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming) predictions would be right on track, but Mother Nature threw them a curve and temperatures statrted cooling after 1998, instead of continuing to warm.
I think this was the time when the alarmists got serious about bastardizing the surface temperature record to get rid of that inconvenient warmth in the 1930’s, which destroys their CAGW hypothesis. They didn’t get rid of it, since we still have the older, unmodified charts, they have just managed to obscure the facts for a lot of people with their bogus Hockey Stick charts.
Gary: “(tell me why these almost identical temperature patterns aren’t corroboratory!)”
I say they are.
All the unmodified, regional surface temperature charts tell the same story. And that story is that it was just as warm in the recent past as it is today, and that means CO2 is not the temperature control knob of the Earth’s atmosphere.
Why don’t all the honest, intelligent alarmists recognize this? The charts are right there for them to see. Why can’t they see the world-wide pattern?
Instead, they believe in fairy tales and false realities based on a bogus, manipulated, computer-generated temperature record.
The regional temperature charts are not going away. The alarmists are trying to explain them away, but without success.
As many others above have commented, the idea that carbon dioxide in our atmosphere, at 0.04%, through the greenhouse effect, contributes to any significant degree to the warming of the earth is, to put it mildly, highly problematic. Real scientists who know about this subject would not agree with that proposition to a level far exceeding the 3% that Dr. Curry claims.
The “greenhouse effect” is supposed to absorb “longwave” infrared radiation outgoing from the surface of the earth towards outer space and thereby “trap” it. Carbon dioxide does absorb this infrared radiation, as does every other gas in the atmosphere at one-atmosphere pressure, and then proceeds to almost immediately either reemit that radiation, at other frequencies than it was absorbed, or transduces it into translational motion known as heat, which then, through a compromised black body radiation mechanism, quickly transduces that heat energy back into infrared radiation, again at different frequencies than it was absorbed, that continues on its way — perhaps to outer space. This trapping effect has little to do with the single-molecule absorption spectrum of carbon dioxide or of water vapor and has much to do with the multi-molecule photo-absorption-emission “spectrum” of the molecules of ANY gas in an atmosphere at one atmosphere of pressure at ambient temperature conditions, where there are 10 billion particle-to-particle collisions for each molecule in it every second, each one affording the possibility of a photon of infrared being absorbed or emitted by a molecule pair (or trio) in that chaos.
It is highly doubtful that if every molecule of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere were replaced by an atom of argon that the temperature of the Earth would be changed at all. Nor have any experiments ever shown this. And the way that the heat of the lower atmosphere gets transferred to the upper atmosphere and from thence to outer space, cooling the Earth, is not mainly through radiative emission and absorption anyway, so all this talk about radiative emission and absorption is somewhat irrelevant, but rather through the mass transfer of heat in the form of air movements (mainly convection).
I must add that the biological effects of carbon dioxide on photosynthesis do indirectly warm the Earth, but that is not the argument being advanced by the “greenhouse warming” hoaxsters.
David Solan
Sorry, simply not true . . . N2 and O2 molecules, having symmetrical bonds (linking of constituent atoms) with no permanent electric dipole moment, are incapable of absorbing LWIR across the range characteristic of that radiated by Earth’s surfaces over its range of temperatures.
N2 and O2 comprise 99% of dry air by volume in troposphere.
CO2 loses essentially all of its absorbed LWIR energy to these surrounding IR-inactive gases by molecule-to-molecule collisional energy exchange, not by radiating photons (at any frequency) to other atmospheric gases.
Just search the Web for “How greenhouse gases absorb infrared radiation” and/or “Atmospheric gases that do not absorb infrared radiation”.
From the article: “Also, there were a large number of major hurricane landfalls during the first half of the 20th century, when surface temperatures were significantly cooler”
That’s just flat-out wrong. It was just as warm in the Early Twentieth Century as it is today, certainly in the United States, where all this hurricane activity takes place.
The author should stop looking at bastardized Hockey Stick charts as being representative of reality. That’s where she is going wrong.
Here’s the U.S. regional surface temperature chart, which shows it was just as warm in the 1930’s as it is today. The chart ends in 1999 (the least bastardized chart available to me) and clearly shows that the 1930’s were as warm as 1998, and 1998 is tied with 2016 for the warmest year, so th 1930’s was also as warm as 2016. Currently, the temperatures are about 0.5C cooler than 2016 and 1998.
See any number of Tony Heller’s videos on the manipulation of historical temperature series in the cause of CAGW.
From the article: “The right hand side shows US heat waves, which have been the big climate story this past summer. As the global average temperature increases, it makes sense that heat extremes would increase and cold extremes would decrease. However, reality isn’t so simple. This figure from the EPA shows that heat waves in the 1930’s were horrendous and much worse than in recent decades, even though the average global temperature was significantly lower in the 1930’s.”
Again, this is flat-out wrong. The author is spell-bound by bogus, bastardized Hockey Stick charts. They are the Big Lie of the Climate Change Fraud, and this author has fallen for it. Not that she doesn’t have plenty of company. All of whom have been fooled by the computer generation of climate change lies.
Average global temperature in the 1930’s is just a guess, and the climate change charlatans always guess high, and gullible people believe them.
Regional surface temperature charts put the lie to the global science fiction of the Hockey Stick charts. All the regional charts look similiar to the U.S. regional chart where it was just as warm in the Early Twentieth Century as it is today.
All the unmodified regional surface temperature charts have a similar temperature profile to the U.S. chart. None of them have a temperature profile that looks like the bogus Hockey Stick chart “hotter and hotter and hotter” profile.
Bogus, Bastardized Hockey Stick chart
I guess it’s about time for these:
Tmax charts
US chart:
China chart:
India chart:
And these:
Norway chart:
Australia chart:
As you can see, it was just as warm in the Early Twentieth Century as it is today, and that happened all over the world, and these charts put the lie to the Bogus, Bastardized Hockey Stick charts that claim we are living in the hottest time in human history.
It’s all a Big Lie. The biggest scientific fraud in world history, and the most expensive.
The gullible world puts its faith in climate change computer hackers. Not me. I go with the temperature charts that were produced by people who had no political agenda. They just wrote the temperatures down as they found them, and I accept that they did so accurately, to the best of their ability, with no intention of lying or distorting the temperature record.
I can’t say that about the climate change computer hackers who have fooled the world into believing we are living in the hottest times ever. The sole source for this lie is the bogus, computer-generated Hockey Stick charts.
From the article: “We clearly need a Plan B, that broadens the climate policy envelope. By considering climate change as a wicked mess, climate change can be reframed as a predicament for actively reimagining human life.”
What climate change? You are imagining things. We don’t need a Plan B for imaginary things.
I think this author just confused whoever was listening to this presentation. She did so because she herself is confused, obviously.
I’ll go to the comments now. I’ve read enough of this.
I am a member of the American Chemical Society. Their politics is way left of center. I’m surprised they allow a dissenting view. I remain member because the weekly magazine still covers some Chemistry and Chemical Industry news. Otherwise its a waste of newsprint.
What if we just painted all asphalt white? Wouldn’t local temp readings would immediately show global cooling… ?
No. The area of Earth’s surface covered by asphalt is insignificant compared to the total surface area of Earth. Therefore, the effect of changing the emissivity value of asphalt would be “lost in the noise” (i.e., ability to accurately and repeatability measure “global temperature“).
Of course since you referred to “global cooling”, I am assuming that your phrase “local temp readings” is not meant to apply to measuring air temperatures within 10 meters of so of an arbitrary road or other asphalt-paved surface. In other words, this is discounting the Urban Heat Island effect on “local” temperature readings.
Slide 4 is somewhat disappointing, in that it seems to take for granted that the 97% number has some basis in truth. I would love to see that continually being refuted, not just allowed to slide. But that’s just me I guess.
I know this is not Dr. Curry’s expertise, but one evil insidious issue being driven by the political science “consensus” right now is the massive amount of taxpayer and private investment monies being put into driving huge solar and wind plants, and planning to displace reliable inertia-driven power generators, with ZERO consideration of incorporating nuclear power into the mix. We are in the midst of just one of the fights to keep our beautiful rural community from being completely crushed by this mania. If we lose our fights, our electrical grid will be destabilized with low- and zero-inertia renewables, massively distributed generation, and an enormously increase in high voltage transmission lines. ALL because states are being forced to commit to a “zero carbon” future, with no ability to challenge the very basis – CO2 is a crisis and human-caused – that Dr. Curry is trying to refute, or at least debate.