The De-Population Bomb

News Analysis by Kip Hansen – 25 May 2021

The headlines are stark and worrisome and the rhetoric even more so:

“Long Slide Looms for World Population, With Sweeping Ramifications“

“Fewer babies’ cries. More abandoned homes. Toward the middle of this century, as deaths start to exceed births, changes will come that are hard to fathom.”  “All over the world, countries are confronting population stagnation and a fertility bust, a dizzying reversal unmatched in recorded history that will make first-birthday parties a rarer sight than funerals, and empty homes a common eyesore.

Maternity wards are already shutting down in Italy. Ghost cities are appearing in northeastern China. Universities in South Korea can’t find enough students, and in Germany, hundreds of thousands of properties have been razed, with the land turned into parks.”

So begins a recent article in the New York Times written by Damien Cave, Emma Bubola and Choe Sang-Hun. 

The article goes on to state “Demographers now predict that by the latter half of the century or possibly earlier, the global population will enter a sustained decline for the first time.”

Wow!  It’s only been fifty years since:

The Population Bomb … a best-selling book written by Stanford University Professor Paul R. Ehrlich and his wife, Anne Ehrlich (who was uncredited), in 1968. It predicted worldwide famine in the 1970s and 1980s due to overpopulation, as well as other major societal upheavals, and advocated immediate action to limit population growth. Fears of a “population explosion” existed in the 1950s and 1960s, but the book and its author brought the idea to an even wider audience.”

Most of us lived through the 1970s and the 1980s and there was no worldwide famine.  Instead, the world prospered and the West and most of Asia grew rich and human life expectancy continued to rise:

The longest record is from the UK, the world trace (brown) has been highlighted.  It is this trend that has the demographers worried.  People are living longer everywhere. 

And people worldwide are having fewer children:

In the map below,  in many places — all the countries that are shown as light yellow — are below what is known as the “replacement rate” of 2.1 children per family.  Yet, there are still parts of the world with rapid population growth:

Those countries colored the first shade of orange (2-2.5) have very slightly more births than deaths, which would include most of Latin America and southern Asia (including India, Bangladesh, Burma/Myanmar, and much of Southeast Asia).  The Middle East is a hot spot for population growth and almost all of Africa still has high to very high birth rates. 

Here is the chart once more, with those countries with VERY LOW birth rates re-colored blue:

That one country with very low birth rates in SE Asia is Thailand.

So what’s the big deal?  We’ve had censuses in both the United States and China – both “world powers”.  Here’s China:

While China’s population is still growing – having reached nearly 1.5 Billion – the growth rate has been dropping and is now less than 0.5% per year.  At the same time, its population is aging.  “A decline in the birth rate and an increase in life expectancy means there will soon be too few workers able to support an enormous and aging population, the academy [Chinese Academy of Social Sciences]  warned.” [ source ]

And in the United States:

The press declared:

U.S. Population Over Last Decade Grew at Slowest Rate Since 1930s

With immigration leveling off and a declining birthrate, the United States may be entering an era of substantially lower population growth, demographers said. . . . . a remarkable slackening that was driven by a slowdown in immigration and a declining birthrate.”

Why are demographers worried?  It is because they are making the same mistake that Paul and Anne Ehrlich made in the 1968:

“The change may take decades, but once it starts, decline (just like growth) spirals exponentially. With fewer births, fewer girls grow up to have children, and if they have smaller families than their parents did — which is happening in dozens of countries — the drop starts to look like a rock thrown off a cliff.”  [ source – repeating the NY Times link ]

Funnily enough, the link in the article shows no such exponential spiral:

[ for larger image in a new window click here ]

The different colors refer to the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals – and how population projections will change as these goals are met – or not.  Regardless of the SDGs, there was no spiral of exponential growth and no spiral decline, just a steady increase or decrease.  The thicker blue trace is the expected population path if we continue as we are going now – “business as usual” — with improvements in female education and contraception needs being met – again, with no exponential decreaseno death spiral of decline.

The NY Times journalists exhibit a decided lack of mathematical understanding when they use the term “decline … spirals exponentially”.

Exponential growth (or decline – flip vertically) looks like the green trace below:

 The repeated mis-use of the fear-inducing “exponential” – which has been attached to every possible future disaster scenario — has led to a very loose popular definition which just seems to mean “big” — both with increases and decreases. 

Yet, in the United States, there is this: The Federal government will pay people to have babies – sort of. 

Looking back at the NY Times article, the authors state:

“The strain of longer lives and low fertility, leading to fewer workers and more retirees, threatens to upend how societies are organized — around the notion that a surplus of young people will drive economies and help pay for the old. It may also require a reconceptualization of family and nation. Imagine entire regions where everyone is 70 or older. Imagine governments laying out huge bonuses for immigrants and mothers with lots of children. Imagine a gig economy filled with grandparents and Super Bowl ads promoting procreation.”

Why a decline in population might require a “reconceptualization of family” escapes me — and I am used to these kinds of crazy rhetorical whims of fancy — and I can not even imagine what he authors might mean by that.

Let me point out that the use of the term “fertility” in all of this does not refer to the ability of any one man to impregnate any one woman – or the ability of any one woman to bear a child.    That’s how we use the word “fertility” in everyday English – when we use the term  “Fertility Clinic” – a medical establishment which helps men and women who are having trouble conceiving a child to do so.  In demographics, fertility means the number of children actually being born to each woman of child-bearing age (statistically).  It has nothing whatever to do with the women’s individual ability to conceive children.  Fertility thus can be altered by the increasing the availability of contraceptives in a society in which women would prefer to have fewer children or increasing access to abortion.  Fertility has been shown over time to be related to Standard of Living – as a nation’s Standard of Living improves, birth rate (fertility) falls.

The well-developed nations of the world have less-than-replacement-level birth rates.  The still-developing nations have high birth-rates.  Hidden (or, maybe not-so-hidden) in this story of concern is the specter of racism – not just white-black-brown racism, but anti-immigrant racism both in the East and in the West.  As the home-grown population ages and declines in the US, Europe, Korea and Japan, the need for young workers to take the entry-level jobs needed to keep society running often requires that “foreign workers” be imported – and those workers are not “us” but rather “them”. 

In the United States, for example, thousands upon thousands of immigrant laborers —  both those arriving through approved, legal, channels and those illegally entering the country across porous borders — cook, clean, do yard care and landscaping, build houses, butcher chickens and pigs in slaughter-houses and harvest America’s crops – in every part of the country.  Managers in almost all industries now need to speak Spanish if they are in positions which supervise laborers.  I have shopped in a WalMart in which I had trouble finding a floor  employee that spoke English.  Over time, if our society resolves its identity-politics stance, these Spanish-language speakers will become just “my next-door neighbors, the Sanchez’s”.  (I grew up in such a neighborhood in 1950’s Los Angeles – and could swear in Spanish before I could do so in English.)

It is odd to hear misanthropic progressive voices now begin to complain about low birth-rates after decades of denigrating the nuclear family and pushing contraception and abortion to fight “runaway population growth”.  

Bottom Line:

There are reasonable concerns about populations falling below the replacement rate, just as there were (and still are) reasonable concerns about populations with unsustainable population growth in nations without the resources to support such large populations. . 

Neither population growth nor decline, however, is a looming disaster.

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Author’s Comment:

My wife and I have four children, all long grown-up and out on their own.  We consider children both as an integral part of our 50-year relationship and a blessing – to us and the world.  We have two grandchildren so far and are ever so grateful for them – and hope for more. 

Societies instituting anti-family policies are mis-guided in so many ways and will reap the eventual consequences. 

What the world does not need is another hopped up scare – though maybe the de-population meme will encourage couples to bring children into the world. 

Address comments to “Kip. . .” if speaking to me.

Thanks for reading.

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May 25, 2021 11:19 am

Well, well, well……..The Spanish Flu of 1918 actually started in China…
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-health

saveenergy
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
May 25, 2021 4:04 pm

Some studies suggest that the H1N1 virus of North American origin likely occurred in or around 1915
Full text – https://english.turkcebilgi.com/Spanish_flu

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Seems COVID-19 may have been circulating in northern Italy unnoticed in July-Aug 2019

Italian researchers did retrospective tests on blood samples from a lung cancer screening study.
From July 2019 to March 2020, a total of 1114 volunteers were enrolled at the Istituto Nazionale Tumori of Milan.

All the patients were asymptomatic at the time of blood sample collection.

The first positive sample (IgM-positive) was recorded on September 3 in the Veneto region.
Also, Antibodies were found in sewage samples from Aug 2019 in Lombardy.

So, Covid 19 may have started in Italy & been transported to Wuhan by Chinese workers. (time will tell)

If so, that’ll upset a lot of people who jumped to conclusions of blame & developed lots of conspiracy theory’s, without any real evidence (just like we’ve seen in the climate fiasco), aint research a wonderful thing !
Full text –
Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the pre-pandemic period in Italy
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0300891620974755

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  saveenergy
May 28, 2021 12:28 pm

So, Covid 19 may have started in Italy & been transported to Wuhan by Chinese workers.

And it could be just as likely, maybe even more likely, that the Wuhan Flu originated from a lab leak in China, in the province of Wuhan, and worker exchange between China and Italy transported the virus there first! But, without seeing some data/information from CCP, we’ll never know, will we? In the lack of other information, I will have to continue with the information we have now, which seems to indicate the virus most likely (if we were able to accurately assign probabilities, we might find even this comes in at a <50% chance, but it still leads any other explanation. The wet-market idea I am virtually certain was wrong because it was offered as an excuse so early, before even any data could be collected, let alone analyzed!) came from China.

dk_
May 25, 2021 11:33 am

Kip,
Good review. I scanned the NYT piece online, and it seems mostly focused on being depressing, with little information content, mostly just bad vibe. Club of Rome stuff from the 60’s.
I’ve only scanned the book briefly, too, but Bjorn Lomborg’s last book False Alarm seems to rely on the leveling out of population being a real indicator that real sustainability and growth of wealth is within our grasp. Pollyannish of me, I know, but I’ll choose the more optimistic view.
Thanks.

dk_
Reply to  Kip Hansen
May 25, 2021 5:29 pm

Hmm, agreed, although I can only usually stomach NYT second hand for short intervals any more. But with three current and past “bureau chiefs” combining on an editorial piece, is this signaling a direction for the next media campaign? Not taking bets yet, but I’ll pop some Pepto and wait to see.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  dk_
May 28, 2021 12:31 pm

I can’t remember who because it was so long ago, but someone explained to me that a “stable population”, meaning births exactly equal deaths year after year so there is neither a population increase nor decrease over time, is a stagnant society and therefore, by definition, a failed society. I still think that’s true.

Alan Welch
May 25, 2021 12:29 pm

Kip
An interesting variation on the exponential growth appeared in a paper “Population explosion and interstellar expansion” which appeared in JBIS (Journal of the Interplanetary Society) in Nov 1975 (Vol 28 No 11). In this the exponent increases by 2% per year. This predicted (tongue in cheek) that the population would reach infinity on Fri 13th Nov 2026. I remember thinking that was a long time in the future but not now long to wait!!

Alan Welch
Reply to  Alan Welch
May 25, 2021 12:35 pm

Kip
Should have said Journal of the British Interplanetary Society.

Richard Page
Reply to  Kip Hansen
May 25, 2021 3:48 pm

Oh I don’t know – I remember (I think) someone trying to calculate if it was actually possible to count the human race by hand, individually. I think they determined, with a reasonable birth rate, that it would impossible – even for you and your descendants!

High Treason
May 25, 2021 2:12 pm

Will the untested, experimental vaccine for which there is no legal redress in the event of injury be a catalyst for mass population culling? For myself, the way they are using any tactic- carrots(pithy bribes of a burger and fries) and sticks (big stick-lose your freedom if you don’t take it) sounds the alarm bells. The sound is deafening.

As the vaccine is experimental, it may void your life insurance and perhaps your health insurance. Either way, the effects through the economy and society will be severe. If governments indemnify the damages, it comes out of the taxes from the people, who are the victims. Effectively, you pay your own compensation and people who chose wisely (not submit) will be made to pay for people who chose unwisely as well as paying trillions to the perpetrators of the vaccine induced pandemic.

As for population crash from widespread vaccine deaths, real estate investments will become total duds, EXCEPT farmland. How coincidental that Bill Gates is buying up farmland, with the staged divorce allowing liquidation of other assets to snap up more farmland.

There is a term bandied around-“Sustainable Development” which really means a stable population of humans of 500 million. This would require 14 out of 15 humans being deemed surplus to requirements. Who will be that lucky one in 15 that will so graciously be permitted to live? Certainly will not be me. Just look at the Georgia Guide stones – they clearly state the 500 million population.

Ironically, after such a mass depopulation comes a revival, but alas, most of us will not be part of it. The biggest question in the era of access to the entire planet very quickly is which group will take over the ashes of civilisation? If it is the alarmists, they will continue the destruction of human technology. We will return to the caves-an era that supported around 7 million humans, not 7 billion. Could the softer than marshmallow alarmists survive in the jungle?

May 25, 2021 2:50 pm

To add to the pressure on population – the latest gender fashion is no gender. Rather than change one way or the other, the coolest new thing is to be “nullo” – basically with one’s tackle surgically removed:

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/524768-nullo-surgery-genital-modification/

Surgeons quick to cash in on the trend offer customers the gift of “smoothness”:

Gender nullification surgery can enable non-conforming patients to enjoy a relatively smooth genital area.

Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
May 25, 2021 3:20 pm

When they did that to Theron Greyjoy in GoT that was presented as a bad thing…

Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
May 26, 2021 3:27 am

Sterile practice and anaesthesia would have been nice but other than that Theon should have been a satisfied customer. (Not to mention Lord Varys.)

Richard Page
Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
May 26, 2021 4:46 am

I thought Eunuch’s had gone out of fashion long ago.

Mark Lee
May 25, 2021 3:32 pm

It most certainly is a concern for those countries with less than sustainment birthrates. The more socialistic the nation’s economy and politics, the more they need an abundance of people entering the workforce at the bottom. You need working adults to pay taxes, and you need them for a long time. And the more elderly who no longer produce, the more difficult it becomes to keep up with the promised benefits. It takes generations of birthrates that exceed the replacement level to reverse the trend, but that takes money the society doesn’t have. It costs a lot to raise children for 18 years when all they do is consume, not produce. The population decline creates a vacuum. You can breed, or you can bring in adult immigrants who want to work. Then you don’t have to pay for their unproductive childhood.

Globally, and as a species, it doesn’t matter much. Skin colors will change. Languages will change. Diet will change. Culture will change. And life will go on.

Robert A. Taylor
May 25, 2021 3:34 pm

Kip:
Sorry as with most things I can’t give references for this.
Back in the early to mid 1970’s I read a paper by a female PhD. in a major referred journal analyzing birth rates. What she found was that the two overriding factors were:
First, the number of fertile women. Number of men made almost no difference no matter the stated cultural norms. Only the most extreme shortage of males showed up in babies per woman and population growth / decline rate.
Second, the morale of the society. The more the society as a whole believed in itself and its future, the more babies per fertile female and population growth rate. The obvious examples are France and Germany after WWI where the governments subsidized births, even illegitimate ones. This was particularly true for the middle economic classes where such definitely existed.
In the U. S. and much of Europe we have had at least sixty years of denigrating motherhood and the family, and been discouraged from believing in our culture and our future. I have watched the honorable and respected “homemaker” (Consider all that terms means. The woman is the center and makes the home and family function.) replaced with “housewife,” and the belief that a married woman is only an unpaid “breeder” baby factory, cook, baby sitter, and prostitute. And that population growth is a horror to be avoided at any cost.

Jeff in Mesa
May 25, 2021 3:55 pm

If you use population density of Phoenix, you can comfortably fit all humans in 1/3 of the US 48 states with plenty of room to spare.

dk_
Reply to  Jeff in Mesa
May 25, 2021 9:10 pm

Jeff, If you use the population density of Tokyo, you might be able to fit everyone in Arizona. But let’s not, please?:-)

jeffrey wilmer
Reply to  dk_
June 2, 2021 11:46 am

My response was using the population density of Phoenix, not Tokyo. If you use Hong Kong, you can fill Alabama.
But I will still stay in AZ with my citrus and irrigation…

Optimus
May 25, 2021 5:38 pm

Our social security and welfare nets are dependent on the generations behind us paying in to the program. But statist swear its not a ponzi scheme. If the generations that come after us continue to shrink, who will be left holding the bag? Will the implosion be a bang or a whimper?

n.n
Reply to  Optimus
May 25, 2021 9:43 pm

The fixed outlays of social security are manageable. Although, controlling inflation would aid to balance its accounts. The problem is progressive prices, not typically costs, in the medical and pharmaceutical industries. Adopting function orientations, health lifestyles, and practicing self-moderation would greatly improve their viability.

May 25, 2021 8:49 pm

Don’t forget that people are putting off having kids in favour of career and education, and after years of contraception hormones and just plain years, one finds it harder to get pregnant when you’re ‘ready’ to create the future. I wish I started at 30 instead of 40, and I’m a guy (is it still legal to say that?). Much worse for women – it would be the healthiest if a woman could have a decent size family in her early twenties and then get back to education/career mode – but of course that depends on finding a lifemate they can trust but society these days encourages men to be selfish overgrown man-childs with no focus on important matters.

n.n
Reply to  PCman999
May 25, 2021 9:39 pm

Ironically, perhaps, the feminist and masculinist ambitions are complementary.

Paul Redfern
May 25, 2021 8:51 pm

Because of their disastrous one child policy, China will fall off of the demographic cliff.

Earthling2
Reply to  Paul Redfern
May 25, 2021 9:10 pm

Not only that, but they have a surplus of males relative to females, which was an extension of their one child policy when boys were preferred over girls. That will be a triple whammy for China, not to mention the constant threat of ~37 million young men that won’t get a wife, let alone have any kids.

n.n
Reply to  Earthling2
May 25, 2021 9:36 pm

They’re exporting a.k.a. immigration refrom a.k.a. colonization their excess male population, and adopting nominally “secular” Western religious standards of selective-child (i.e. the Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic, relativistic “ethical” religion) in lieu of the unpopular one-child, Great Leap, and other single/central/minority planned population schemes.

RMT
May 25, 2021 9:53 pm

60 million abortions since 1973 in America is taking it’s toll on the population growth.

May 25, 2021 11:26 pm

Dont mistake ‘kids per woman’ as population growth. Africa has a very high population maintenance birth rate because so many people die in childhood from disease etc, and in adulthood from violence. Africans are capable of wiping out entire populations, look at Ruanda.

The fact is the global birth rate is very near the global replacement rate, and as Japan showed us the future with QE, stagnant growth, and low interest rates in the 90s, it has done the same with population decline.

The great Ponzi scheme of births is over. Old people will not retire anymore. Pensions wont be adequate and the lack of skills in the work force will drive this.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
May 27, 2021 12:00 am

3 kids per woman in Africa is not population growth, whereas in Europe it is. Thats my point, which I am sure you understand.

As for resources you have to be kidding! Africa is the most resource rich, fecund place on the planet!

What they dont have is good government and the ability to organise.

Vincent Causey
May 25, 2021 11:43 pm

The lesson I have learned from this (and the climate scare) is that anything that doesn’t exhibit steady state properties – a horizontal line on a graph that goes neither up nor down – will always elicit panic.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Vincent Causey
May 28, 2021 12:43 pm

will always elicit panic

will [can] always elicit [be used to create] panic…

TFIFY

May 26, 2021 2:58 am

The extraordinary rise of the ArtStudent™ style of binary thinking (right or wrong, no other values allowed) and where only linear extrapolation is understood, (what is happening today will continue to happen forever), is the greatest danger to a technologically based civilisation beyond any natural effects.

The difference between having unprotected sex in a crowded lift surrounded by screaming babies , and somewhere out in an empty expanse of say woodland…

Once populations drop, so that people feel like having heterosexual sex again, birth rates will recover.

Probably a planet with about 10% of existing levels would be pleasant to inhabit…

May 26, 2021 3:37 am

So people are finally waking up to what Hans Rosling has been saying for years?

https://youtu.be/GeXJnOE-1gw

Anthony
May 26, 2021 5:30 am

It’s not that they were not having babies but that they were disposing of them. At the last count, 1.6 billion abortions since 1980 and that doesn’t count any killed by various pills.(or before 1980) It’s your choice, keep babies or kill em……

Anthony
Reply to  Kip Hansen
May 26, 2021 11:00 am

True but I am using the verb, to dispose, that’s a pro-life term but it is still, for many people (but not all) a choice and there are many consequences for that choice. The great news is that choice can be mended but I’m not sure this is the right place to mention Catholic Spirtuality… lol

jeff corbin
May 26, 2021 7:24 am

Look immigration is good and babies are good but anarchy is bad. The solution for sub-replacement level birth rate since the 1980’s has been immigration anarchy and planned parenthood eugenics….. both libertarians and liberals speaking out of both sides of their mouths. Address the social problem of sub-replacement birth rate by selling marriage and babies. If our media can sell terror, it can sell joy. Let’s not pit immigration against having babies. The problem is neither immigration per se nor babies….the problem is the idiot lies which been perpetrated against the American people from the fringe. Let the fringe be the fringe and let the mainstream have babies… lot’s of them. We cannot be a country driven by fringe ethics and half baked narratives, smartphone self gratification and dogs…. it is a recipe for disaster. No one is more righteous or good having more or less children. We have to take righteousness out of the equation and just pursue joy…. the joy of babies, husband and wives and families The fringe is anti-joy… pro-dystopia– pro-anarchy and are the pawns of globalizing forces.

jeff corbin
Reply to  Kip Hansen
May 26, 2021 8:50 am

Hi Kip,
Thanks for your article….so helpful. it is time to cast off the mirage of the American dystopia aside and live, love and have babies. I love ‘corny’….’cool’ has never got me anywhere but sad, bitter and lonely. LOL. I love my wife and kids. I married late at 45 due to a early and long battle with cancer and the complications. So I had kids in my 50’s after 5 years of injections 3x a week…. they are off to college soon. Our goal was 4 but settled with two. Nothing could be more true and happy than: Joy of Babies, Wives and Husbands.

America has become the land of the jaded fringe. A people harmed by lies and self delusion. Yet our entire human civilization is built on the universal ideas of self sacrifice, commitment, loyalty, seeking the good of others and the power of love to bring joy! Yet we live in an entirely self righteous age….it blame shifts, it rationalizes, it lies out right, it self gratifies, it hides and it reduces everything to money.. Where the fringe is foisted as mainstream, even the appearance of people living joyful lives is an evil affront. But who cares, it still is a free county!! We have the cast off the weight and darkness that has been descending since 9/11. We can yap and vote a little but the rest of the time should be devoted to joy face to face in warm embraces!

Steve Z
May 26, 2021 9:24 am

Interesting that after yesterday’s neo-Population-Bomb article, we get an article about future decreases in population.

Over the past century or so, life expectancies have more than doubled all over the world, although this increase occurred later in previously under-developed countries such as India and Ethiopia than in Europe and the USA. This initially caused a rapid increase in population, as societies accustomed to having many children per family (in order to ensure that at least two would survive to adulthood to replace their parents) ended up with all children surviving to adulthood and increasing the population. Much of this increase in life expectancy is due to the development of vaccines to prevent diseases that used to kill many children.

In developed countries, where people have become accustomed to having all their children survive to adulthood, their concern has shifted to limiting the number of births to those they can afford to support for the 18 to 22 years before the children become independent, so birth rates have declined. But there is always a “lag” on long-term effects, since with so many people living to 80 years and beyond, it takes decades for the death rate to catch up to a declining birth rate.

It is not clear whether life expectancy will continue to increase beyond 80 years, or whether the major diseases of the elderly (cancer, heart disease, strokes, etc.) will continue to take their toll, resulting in a stabilization of life expectancy at near today’s levels.

But if future societies in 2050 or 2080 will have a higher fraction of elderly people and a lower fraction of young people than today, there could be some adaptations made. For example, the average person in their 60’s today is healthier than the average person of the same age back in 1980 or 1990, and are usually near their peak in productivity (long experience without declining health), so people in their 60’s may delay their retirement to earn more money, particularly if there are not enough young people to replace them. Even if they are retired and collecting Social Security (or its equivalent in another country), they may choose to work part-time to avoid boredom and supplement their income, and their employers will benefit from their experience and knowledge that a younger person would not have.

Also, if there is a smaller fraction of young people in future societies, this could create a labor shortage, so that educated young people would probably have several job offers to choose from, and even unskilled young people could find jobs that need to be done by someone.

If the future population does begin to decline, there could also be a reversal in attitudes of young adults of childbearing age, to want to have children, to experience what their parents experienced during their childhood.

A future society with declining population will definitely cause economic dislocation, but people can adapt to it, if left to their own devices, and not forced into some grandiose plan by a tyrannical government (such as that of China).

jeff corbin
Reply to  Steve Z
May 26, 2021 10:41 am

Depopulation looks like a ghost town with no hope and desperate poverty. I don’t have statistics to back me up but it is very difficult to reverse depopulation. Ireland was 6 million lives in 1800, in 1990 2.2 million and poor….. immigration of Americans in the 1990’s and the and their cash during the tech bubble is what turned Ireland around. Even now there are many Irish that are afraid of their current sub-replacement birth rate. Life expectancy is declining in America due to obesity, suicide and opioid crisis. We are beyond the point were health care will extend lifespan…the enabling feed back is just too powerful regardless of their constant yap about health and prevention.

If we don’t address the social problems of delayed marriage and children, immigration will be the only way to prevent the USA from turning into desperate ghost town for the folks out there under 30. So at this point, historically high levels of immigration is the only solution to maintain our population. Reverting our current population of 320,000,000 Americans to 180,000,000 (-65.5 mil Gen x and -76.9 Boomers) ..in 2 generations would be a disaster. There wouldn’t be enough people to clean up the rotting infrastructure left behind…. another dystopic vision. The other solution is to ignore popular media, go fall in love, get married and raise a family for which it is in your nature to do. So do what comes naturally… it’s simple.

Oh no! there is so much to worry about: the inevitable pandemics, depopulation, transhumanism, crispr-cas 9 designer babies, over-population, climate change ( and it will keep changing), Marxist and Libertarian anarchy, culture decay, the Fringe becoming maintain stream and vice versa….

Cheer up, we truly are far worse than we think… or it could be 1968 or 1941 or 1916 or 1861. We had a baby boom in this country at the beginning of a Cold War. People, had unprotected sex, smoked and drank life chimney’s & fish and died in their 50’s 60’s ( some lived a bit longer ..those who quit smoking but Alzheimer’s hit them hard afterward)….. and the Korean war… and the specter of nuclear holocaust.. all this crapola and the baby boom just kept booming. What were those people thinking and drinking (cheap liquor and crème de menthe LOL). For one thing, they didn’t give a rat’s ass about ‘could’ and ‘could be’ and ‘may’ and ‘maybe’ and soundly boo’d and shamed idiots and MontBlancs They had their own lives, which they we willing to protect tooth and nail.

so what is WUWT there here for, celebrate the wonders of meteorological science, fight over statistical models and boo the Mont Blancs.

andy
May 26, 2021 4:49 pm

Test tubes is the answer

May 27, 2021 7:40 am

Much easier, clearer and entertaining to watch Hans Rosling explain far better?

Don’t Panic made this all clear years ago.

Too many people aren’t interested in hearing the truth if it doesn’t support their agendas or belief systems.