Elon Musk Offers $100 Million for the Best Carbon Capture Technology

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Remember all those assurances we’ve heard over the years, that carbon capture technology is ready for mainstream deployment? Turns out the technology is a little less ready to deploy than some people would like you to believe.

From Elon Musk;

So what are the chances of someone collecting the prize?

Bloomberg thinks this moonshot can’t miss;

Elon Musk’s Moonshot Prize Can’t Miss

By Kyle Stock
January 24, 2021, 7:00 AM EST

Mr. Moonshot is at it again. 

Space and sedan baron Elon Musk pledged to donate a $100 million prize to what he deems the best carbon capture technology. The Tesla CEO wants to save the world of course and get a cheaper, cleaner feedstock to cook up fuel for his rockets. He also wants to bask in the glow of a little green Twitter buzz, which is often what these kinds of contests are best for. 

The so-called moonshot prize is a centuries-old tactic that falls somewhere on the spectrum between time-shrinking innovation catalyst and carnival barking. The difference is in the details. 

Musk says he will flesh out the details of the prize this week. If he really wants to move the needle, the money should be spread out and spaced out. Breaking it up into small chunks for early milestones will encourage long-shots and leaving it open-ended long enough will further incite the serious players. 

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2021-01-24/elon-musk-pledges-100-million-prize-to-crack-carbon-capture

Forbes reminds readers that there is no magic when it comes to the thermodynamics of sequestering CO2, though they suggest “billions of dollars from government” might overcome the economic obstacles;

$100 Million From Elon Musk Won’t Enable Carbon Capture

Brentan Alexander
Jan 24, 2021,08:10am EST

On Thursday, Elon Musk announced in under 140 characters his intention to donate $100 million to the “best” carbon capture technology, chosen through a competition whose details and judging criteria are yet to be announced (he promised further details next week). Funding for research and development of carbon capture technologies is most welcome, and Musk’s donation will surely lead to technological advances in the space. The problems, however, holding back the mass deployment of carbon capture are primarily economic, and a Silicon Valley mindset that champions disruptive innovation as the solution to all problems will fail to advance this important industry.

Carbon capture today looks a lot like solar technology 20 years ago, which was on the brink of growing at a rate over 500 times over the next two decades. Research and development money did not unlock the solar market at the turn of the century, rather it was the emergence of a viable business model driven by mandated renewable energy targets that allowed solar to rapidly expand and run down the cost curve, driving further growth. So too is carbon capture ready to make such a jump. Musk’s prize will surely help some firms further their technology and reduce their costs, but Silicon Valley solutions won’t create the market that unlocks carbon capture technologies. Instead, carbon capture is ready for its Wall Street moment: it will take the deployment of today’s technologies within today’s regulatory regime, supported by billions from governments, banks, and corporations, to demonstrate the business case for carbon capture and truly enable the space to scale.

Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brentanalexander/2021/01/24/100-million-from-elon-musk-wont-enable-carbon-capture/

Perhaps we should thank Elon Musk for letting the mask slip, for giving us a glimpse of the true state of over hyped carbon capture technology.

Nobody has a scalable, affordable solution, thermodynamics suggests there may never be a scalable, affordable solution – that carbon capture if deployed would be an ongoing massive burden on the global economy. Yet most advocates keep up the pretence that carbon capture is ready to roll.

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Pete Clegg
January 27, 2021 8:16 am

He does know that CO2 is already at mass extinction low levels – right? Doesn’t he? After he’s done scrubbing it down to within a baby’s sigh of photosynthesis shutdown he can then invest a few hundred million bucks on nuclear technology to crack the magic gas out of carbonaceous rocks. With Musky the fun is never done!

Ferdberple
January 27, 2021 8:29 am

Nature already invented the solution. Trees. Sequester them under the ice in Antarctica.

It could put millions of unemployed oil and gas workers to work in high paying, shovel ready union jobs burying the trees.

With all the airlines hurting for business, now is the time to chop down all existing trees, fly them to Antarctica, and hire mittions of illegal aliens back home to replant the forests.

RockyRoad
January 27, 2021 8:59 am

Elon Musk should be fined a $billion for pursuing carbon capture!

Has he never heard of the carbon cycle? Or is he made of titanium?

ResourceGuy
January 27, 2021 10:33 am

Solution: Crystal healing powers as promoted by Hollywood types

Steve Z
January 27, 2021 10:34 am

There is a huge thermodynamic barrier to any large-scale “sequestration” of CO2 underground. Carbon dioxide can be selectively absorbed from combustion gas (mostly nitrogen, oxygen, and steam) in scrubbers using alkaline solutions (usually ethanolamines or caustic), but in order to avoid excessive consumption of expensive solvents, the solvents must be “regenerated” (by heating at low pressure) to release the CO2 from the solvent, as low-pressure, nearly pure CO2 gas.

But at atmospheric pressure and (for example) 25 C, CO2 gas has a density of only 1.80 kg/m3, which means that storing 1 metric tonne underground would require a volume of 556 m3. Storing a gigatonne underground (about 1/30 of annual emissions) would require a volume of 556 cubic kilometers. It is not known whether there are enough leak-proof underground cavities whose total volume is anywhere near the volume required to store the annual CO2 emissions of the United States.

The required storage volume can be decreased by increasing the density of the CO2, which can be achieved by increasing its pressure and/or decreasing its temperature. Carbon dioxide freezes at -56.6 C (-69.8 F), but trying to force solid “dry ice” into the ground is obviously impractical.

CO2 can also be liquefied by compression and refrigeration, but there are thermodynamic limits. The boiling temperature of CO2 increases with pressure (this is true for all substances), but no substance can be liquefied above its critical temperature, which is about 31 C (88 F) for carbon dioxide. At this temperature, a pressure of 73.8 bar (1,071 psi) is needed to liquefy CO2.

Since underground temperatures increase with depth, any liquid CO2 injected into an underground cavity could be heated by the surrounding rock above the critical temperature, which would result in a rapid increase in pressure if the volume of the cavity is fixed, possibly causing a man-made earthquake. This could be avoided by compressing the CO2 to a pressure above the critical pressure (on the order of 1,200 psi or more), for which the CO2 would be a “supercritical fluid” (neither liquid nor gas) not subject to rapid increases in pressure if heated by the surrounding rock underground.

The major obstacle to CO2 sequestration is the energy required to compress CO2 from atmospheric pressure (1.01 bar or 14.7 psi) to 1,100 psi or more, a pressure ratio of about 75:1. Industrial compressors can provide a pressure ratio of between 2.0 and 2.5 per stage, meaning that compression to 1,100 psi would require at least 5 stages of compression, with water- or air-cooled heat exchangers required to remove the heat of compression between stages. Additional energy would be required to run cooling-water pumps or the fans of air-cooled exchangers.

It is estimated that the energy required to run the compressors to sequester the CO2 emitted from a natural-gas-fired power plant would consume about 20% of the power generated by the plant, and this rises to about 30% for a coal-fired power plant.

If CO2 sequestration is added to an existing coal-fired power plant, the same amount of coal used to generate 100 MWh before sequestration only produces a net 70 MWh after sequestration, meaning that for the same net power generated, the coal resources are consumed 43% faster (1 / 0.70 = 1.43), and the cost to the consumer increases by 43% (possibly more, to amortize the capital cost of the compressors and coolers). For a gas-fired plant, the gas would be consumed 25% faster (1 / 0.80 = 1.25).

Large-scale sequestration of CO2 underground is cost-prohibitive, which is why several power companies who started studying it around 2010 gave up on their projects a few years later, as economically unfeasible.

No amount of legislation or executive orders will ever change the thermodynamic properties of carbon dioxide. If the carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere is increasing, we just need to adapt to it (it was much higher in the past, and life on earth survived).

Reply to  Steve Z
January 27, 2021 1:58 pm

Steve Z, you concluded: “No amount of legislation or executive orders will ever change the thermodynamic properties of carbon dioxide.”

Well, I have it on good authority that Joe Biden is working on an EO right now—one that he will sign next week— to suspend the laws of thermodynamics for the duration of his administration.

Remember he claimed throughout his presidential campaign that science would follow him.

:-))

Reply to  Steve Z
January 28, 2021 2:53 am

Amine and Allan cycle units can, relatively easily, remove the CO2.

The Petra Nova CCUS project worked extremely well until it was shutin last year due to low oil prices. It captured 90-95% of the CO2 from one of the coal-fired units at the W.A. Parrish generating station without a parasitic load. The CO2 was transported by pipeline to West Ranch oil field, 80 miles to the west. It was injected into a Frio reservoir, increasing oil production from a few 100 bbl/d to over 5,000 bbl/d.

Net Power’s Allan Cycle natural gas pilot project effectively captured all of the CO2 and other gases and generated electricity at a lower cost than conventional combined cycle power plants. They’ve begun construction of four commercial power plants.

January 27, 2021 11:17 pm

I’m going to win, except can’t patent my idea.

Buy over surplus/dented fruit
Plant fruit in unused area
Wait for fruit tree to grow

Admit it, it’s better than any of the Rube Goldberg over complicated renewables (wind turbine + 1000’s of miles/kms of transmission lines + batteries + hydrogen + subsidies + forced mandates) just to replace drilling a hole in the ground (in the right spot of course…) and bringing up the gas. When that runs out we can use the hardware to burn the gas from methane hydrates from the ocean. Everyone in government has lost their marbles over imaginary boogie-CO2 and climate crisis.

Dennis
January 28, 2021 7:55 am

I know I am preaching to the Choir, but I can’t help myself.
Carbon Sequestration has got to be the stupidest idea ever !
Quadrillions of Dollars would be spent to make even the most infinitesimal dent in
atmospheric CO2. Most of the planet would be blacked out to provide the energy
to accomplish nothing. We already get more Carbon Sequestration for free from the increased growth of plant life that accompanies higher concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere .
I guess it could make Elon richer.


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