Tucker Carlson: Democrats, fires and the climate misinformation campaign

In the hands of Democratic politicians, climate change is like systemic racism in the sky: You can’t see it, but it’s everywhere and it’s deadly.

As many WUWT readers know, I’m right in the middle of the wildfires here in Northern California. While it has affected me with power, Internet, and other service outages, plus chocking smoke, I’m OK.

But I’ve had friends dramatically and permanently affected by it. The left wants to blame climate change, and in fact, California Governor Newsom came to Oroville yesterday, unannounced to address the issue. He didn’t even notify local news media, instead bringing Sacramento news media in tow, which caused a bit of a tizzy, and was quite a slap in the face.

Nonetheless, we expected him to lead, we expected him to provide words of comfort to people affected who lost everything, we expected him to praise our first-responders for the heroic work they have done, instead, he browbeat us with a lecture on how it is all “caused by climate change.”

This didn’t sit well with a lot of people, and signs like this appeared as he left the press conference site in the burned out area.

I’ll address Newsom’s incredible climate gaffe later in another post.

But, the gaffe was so big, it reached Tucker Carlson on Fox News, and our local State Assemblyman James Gallagher, was invited on the show. Tucker ripped the “climate crisis” a new one, and Gallagher told it like it was.

Click to watch:


If you want to watch Newsom’s press conference, it was posted by TV station KCRA here:


WUWT Contributor Eric Worrall was writing a post while I was writing this one, I’ve combined the effort, he notes:

Climate change in my opinion is once again being used as a convenient political prop to deflect blame for years of failed forestry management policies.

‘Ideological BS’: Amid ashes, governor fires away on climate change

September 12, 2020 — 1.31pm

Sacramento: California Governor Gavin Newsom has offered some of his most impassioned comments on climate change, denouncing the “ideological BS” of those who deny the danger and vowing to accelerate the state’s already ambitious goals for reducing greenhouse gases.

Newsom spoke against a backdrop of ghost-like trees and ground covered in snow-like grey ash left by the deadliest of the record-breaking fires that have charred huge swathes of California in recent weeks.

“The data is self-evident, the experience that we have in the state of California just underscoring the reality of the ravages of climate change,” he said. “Mother Nature is physics, biology and chemistry. She bats last and she bats 1000. That’s the reality we’re facing, the smash mouth reality — this perfect storm. The debate is over around climate change.”

Republican state Senator Jim Nielsen and local councillor James Gallagher countered that the cause of recent devastating wildfires and electricity blackouts was “decades of bad policy enacted by Democrats, not climate change.”

“The excuse of climate change cannot be used to deflect from the fundamental failure to address the fuels build-up in our forests that are the cause of these devastating fires,” they said in a statement. “These same misguided policy decisions have led to rolling blackouts and an energy grid that is falling apart.”

Read more: https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/ideological-bs-amid-ashes-governor-fires-away-on-climate-change-20200912-p55uzd.html
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September 12, 2020 5:29 am

Climate change made him do it.

If you want an NFL player to stand, wait for the judge to say, “The defendant shall rise.”

Reply to  Scissor
September 12, 2020 11:49 am

obviously climate change make people arsons….and that’s why they are arresting so many people for starting the fires

…one of them was a BLM rioter

Reply to  Latitude
September 13, 2020 2:11 pm

Apparently Facebook has started removing any post that implies that BLM or Antifa are responsible for any of the fires.

Reply to  Scissor
September 13, 2020 4:43 am

Oh, I see how Newsom’s brain crawls along: Ignore the evidence or arson, because no one would do that, right?

Okay, sure. Whatever he’s smoking must be REALLY good! ~~)

September 12, 2020 5:38 am

Newsom is such a big liar. California throughout it’s history has been known for its extremes in flooding, drought and wild fires, especially. Throw in seismic activity and that state faces some crisis frequently.

Curious George
Reply to  Scissor
September 12, 2020 7:40 am

Climate change occurred in California in 2020. Not in 2019. And not in Europe.

Reply to  Curious George
September 12, 2020 1:46 pm

And not under 8 years of Obama.

Craig Moore
September 12, 2020 5:39 am

Washington’s guv Inslee must be reading from Newsom’s teleprompter.

Foley Hund
Reply to  Craig Moore
September 12, 2020 7:28 am

I feel the pain for which Anthony expresses here. And yes Inslee is a foolish tool along with those who keep him in Olympia. I have two ranches in WA. One above the Columbia south of Kettle Falls had a fire (arson) a few years ago and now the Cold Spring fire (arson) east of the Okanogan River we watched Sunday night build a wall a flame 40 mile long with a few hours. Having lived in the mountain states for my entire life (68 yrs) I observed that these fires have become a political tool to destroy the rural communities will to live in wide open spaces. Akin to agenda 21 -30- whatever. And as others attest, it is pure control methodology. Fear mongering is the lefty message and look at how the the populous got in line with covid fraud. Ignorance prevails and the cabal dictates.

Reply to  Foley Hund
September 13, 2020 5:22 am

be safe, not so long since aus was on fire, so we DO feel for what youre going through
and you Anthony. and all in the zones
read about that poor young lad who died with his dog trying to shelter

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Craig Moore
September 12, 2020 2:33 pm

“Washington’s guv Inslee must be reading from Newsom’s teleprompter.”

Inslee has been beating that dead horse since before Newsome was elected.

September 12, 2020 5:40 am

I’m beginning to think someone wants to smoke WUWT out! Twice in 2 years!
In the EU it is impossible to comprehend such a disaster, disastrous politicians here being exactly the same, though.
Could the Governor declare an emergency, is Federal support a possibility?

Reply to  bonbon
September 12, 2020 6:01 am

When this fire season is all done, it may turn out to be above average or even average. Unfortunately, if not for arson by radical environmentalists and anarchists it may have been below average.

Reply to  Scissor
September 12, 2020 8:49 am

Yeah average for so much tinder lying around, with no forest management. Same as in Australia.
That’s the problem with stats, they never state axioms, and sh*it happens.

R Taylor
September 12, 2020 5:42 am

Forestry and housing policy have been under the control of Democrats since, effectively, 1959.

Rich Davis
Reply to  R Taylor
September 12, 2020 6:06 am

So a Republican mess from the 1950s I guess? Let’s be reasonable and put the blame on the real culprits.

After 60 years of diligent effort, the Socialists just need a few more generations in power to get Calizuela all the way into the ditch.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  R Taylor
September 12, 2020 6:51 am

Left wing states hate forestry. Here in Mass. there is a powerful movement to end all forestry- first on state land, then on private land “to save the climate”. I and a few others battle them every day.

Foley Hund
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
September 12, 2020 7:11 am

Left, as in sinister, hate everything. They hate themselves and exert their evil on everything and everyone.

Reply to  Foley Hund
September 12, 2020 6:24 pm

Mr. Hund – you said a mouthful of truth.

September 12, 2020 6:03 am

The State of Jefferson looks better every day, doesn’t it?

Reply to  DonK31
September 12, 2020 6:21 am

The dos Equis on the flag are nice.

September 12, 2020 6:26 am

Is Newson vying to be the Democrat’s VP pick for Biden’s VP pick in the event that he (Biden) totally drops out or blows his fuse? Wait ….. that would be ‘white privilege’.

Just Jenn
September 12, 2020 6:37 am

I don’t believe that PG&E has the entire monopoly for “climate change”. I think the sun might find that offensive and file a lawsuit. Now that would be something to see!

So Newsom went on the offensive to claim climate crisis knowing full well that PG&E’s egregious lack of maintenance of their power lines coupled with ridiculously inadequate forestry management and CA’s foolish dismantling or ignoring ancient canals to provide water to the southern regions instead of dumping it all in the sea have created a trifecta for wildfires. Makes sense, pass the buck and blame something bigger, badder, and worse all due to humans.

I would love to see the entirety of climate change labeled an MLM (pyramid scheme for those that are outside of that particular circle of bombardment hell here in the US, where they are semilegal due to vagueness of language in the law). Because they are so similar, only the people at the top make any money, recruitment is the entirety of the operation and shaming for “not doing enough, not wanting it hard enough, not working enough, not hussling enough…etc…etc..” is the company byline. And blaming everything on climate change is akin to blaming the failure of an individual to make any money in a corrupt scheme designed to only funnel money to the upline.

So who gets paid for this disaster? Because I’ll bet you dollars to donuts, the cleanup crew has the contract in hand and ready to execute with a big fat check CA can’t afford to write. They better cash it now before it bounces.

Reply to  Just Jenn
September 12, 2020 1:22 pm

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but as I understand it PG&E has no control over where they spend their money. Their budget is line item reviewed and managed by the Public Utility Board. So the planned maintenance money was moved into the “fund more renewable energy” category every year for many years.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Yirgach
September 12, 2020 4:33 pm

You nailed it. Not only that but CA won’t let the power company clear cut right-of-ways. So what happens when trees fall onto high voltage power lines

M__ S__
September 12, 2020 6:46 am

Leftist objective: ever more power, until 100% of the economy is under political control and the average person receives a stipend (at politicians’ whim) and must do the work required until death.

Means: use of fear and the big lie to justify taking ever more power and money

Blame everything that goes wrong on someone else.

Reply to  M__ S__
September 12, 2020 7:22 am

A friend back in 1970 told me that in her opinion the leftists wouldn’t be happy until everyone lived in a state owned house and worked for the state.
She then told the following joke:
Union leader says: When we get our freedom we will all have Rolls Royces and smoke cigars, like the bosses.
Worker replies: But I can’t drive and don’t smoke.
Union leader: When we get our freedom you will jolly well do what you’re told.

Leonard E Herr
September 12, 2020 6:57 am

When the next leftist government manages to cheat its way into federal power climate change will be declared a “public health emergency” and they will install a totalitarian rule that would make Mao blush. And since the climate change public health emergency can be whatever they define it as (too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, ad infinitum) it will never end. Brilliant in its simplicity.

Reply to  Leonard E Herr
September 25, 2020 7:39 am

This is exactly what the want. They won’t be satisfied, until they destroy the middle class and conservatives – it means doing the same thing the Nazi Party did in the 1930’s. Take control of the media, which has been done at around 90-95%, the government, the military, tax at a high rate (including high death taxes), tax carbon (a trace gas that greens our planet), make everyone drive an EV, stop fracking and oil consumption (a gal of gas will be over $10 a gal), make solar panels mandatory, release all serious criminals from prison, pay off college debt and reparations, raise taxes to 70% to help pay for everything, destroy businesses and destroy our economy, open borders to anyone, allow gangs like MS 13 to flourish, use the FBI/CIA/DOJ/NSA to be the Gustopo/SS against all republican law makers, take over all medical (160 million people will lose their medical plans), and it will destroy our country. It will crash our economy, including world wide. That’s just a bit of what will happen. Oh…I forgot about our 2nd amendment! GONE! Does this remind you of exactly what Marx recommended, Stalin, Mao, and Hitler did, and several hundred million innocent people murdered.

Gerald Machnee
September 12, 2020 7:01 am

The CBC in Canada is at it too. They had “meteorologist” Johanna Wagstaffe, who works out of British Columbia on today. She blamed “climate change” and the “hottest summer on record”. She did not specify where it was the hottest on record, so I do not know if she was referring to the west coast of Canada or the USA.
I will try to find the news clip.

Chris Hoff
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
September 12, 2020 10:13 am

Your not hearing about wildfires in Canada and Mexico right now, just the U.S.

Foley Hund
Reply to  Chris Hoff
September 12, 2020 4:37 pm
Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Chris Hoff
September 13, 2020 10:12 am

No, but in western Canada they are talking about smoke and health and covid.

Reply to  Gerald Machnee
September 12, 2020 12:06 pm

Maybe the event occurred on another planet?

Reply to  Gerald Machnee
September 12, 2020 2:09 pm

Where, pray tell, is the heat in BC? I’m not the only one complaining about tomatoes being 2 weeks late, despite the ‘heat’.

Elle Webber
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
September 12, 2020 9:41 pm

It sure wasn’t the “hottest summer” in British Columbia. One hundred year record COLD records were broken in June in our Interior, including snow on major highways. On the Coast, we all had to turn on the home heating July 1st it was so cold; first time ever for that. It’s been not-hot here since then. Of course, that is not reportable news for CBC.

But, hey, somewhere on our planet, it was the hottest summer on record!

Lee L
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
September 13, 2020 6:21 am

“I will try to find the news clip.”

While you’re at it, Gerald, go find Berkeley Earth data set that shows the observed ‘climate change’ (Warming since 1990) in Washington State where these burning forests have been living in the past 30 years as :
Washington State …
-.54 (+- .41) degrees C per century where MINUS means cooling.\

You might also send the (Warming since 1990) data on BC (from the same source) to Ms. Wagstaffe.
British Columbia …
-.04 (+-.32) degrees C per century where MINUS means cooling.


Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Lee L
September 13, 2020 10:14 am

Will write there again.

David Hoopman
September 12, 2020 7:03 am

Nothing to see here but the customary cynical opportunism. Newsom can’t possibly be so stupid as to not realize that if you pile up enough kindling, you can have a fire even if it’s below zero outside.

Foley Hund
September 12, 2020 7:17 am

It’s the top down and bottom up strategy where the small minority of radicals/antifa/blm make demands and the radical left democrats enact policy to conform. All backed by a complicit media.

Reply to  Foley Hund
September 12, 2020 8:18 am

The old Jessie Jackson shakedown. Worked so well for him that the left turned it into a formula.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Foley Hund
September 12, 2020 2:10 pm

Most people just want to be left alone.
They understand the need for stop signs and traffic laws and other manifestations of Government that, here in the US, was intended to prevent one individual from violating the rights of another individual.
But the left sees “Government”, authority as a tool, a club, to beat such into submission.

Do their rank and file ever wonder why so many multi=billionaires such as Soros fund the socialist/Marxist agenda?
It’s not because their dream is to someday not being able to afford to someone cut their own lawns.

Bruce Ploetz
September 12, 2020 7:34 am

I grew up in California. Periodic fires, droughts, the Santa Ana winds are a natural part of the climate there. The evidence goes back thousands of years.

The native population, possibly going back as far as 20,000 years ago, set fires to clear undergrowth. Several species of trees require fires to reproduce. Look at the ancient Sequoias – evidence of ancient fires mark them.

The super-destructive fires of today come partly from foreign-introduced weed trees, like the Eucalyptus with its flammable “gum” sap. Some forests that were pleasant groves in my youth (60s) are now impenetrable tangles of Eucalyptus. When a spark goes into that mess, with the ragged aromatic loose bark everywhere, it naturally catches fire right away.

Long ago periodic natural fires would have kept the fire load down. So a natural fire would not become a towering inferno that sweeps all before it in a crown fire.

Just as they blamed “witches” for climate change in past ages, they blame ordinary folks for fires today. Maybe they get some votes out of it, but they have sold their very souls. The truth will out.

Reply to  Bruce Ploetz
September 12, 2020 11:23 am
John the Econ
September 12, 2020 8:08 am

“Climate Change” is simultaneously both the excuse for the consequences of bad Progressive policy and the excuse for even more and bigger bad Progressive policy.

September 12, 2020 8:14 am

It’s always a crisis with these people because they have to distract from the fact that they have nothing to offer. Their modus operandi is always the same: 1) create a problem, or perception of a problem, 2) blame it on their opponents or something they disagree with, 3) offer their own ideas or themselves as the solution. This pattern is observable in everything they do.

Citizen Smith
September 12, 2020 8:16 am

Newsom said “if you do not believe in science I hope you believe in observed evidence” then he quoted

4900 fires burned 118,000 acres in 2019
7700 fires burned 3,200,000 acres in 2020
2020 burned 26 times more than 2019

Does Newsom want people to infer the observed evidence shows we had really bad global warming this year but none last year?

He prepared remarks are nothing more that trying to baffle people with BS. What a phony dick.

Reply to  Citizen Smith
September 12, 2020 10:07 am

Ask him the same question we put to Griff and Loydo, so if we agree it’s climate change. Now what are you going to do to stop it next year or even the next 50 years? You can’t say emission control because that doesn’t do anything for 70 to 100 years so you obviously have a Plan B so you need to spell it out to us.

Reply to  LdB
September 12, 2020 12:10 pm

Plan B will NOT be spelled out until AFTER it’s implemented.
Only then can you read it.
And it will be extremely painful.

Reply to  Citizen Smith
September 12, 2020 10:55 am

At that rate of increase, in three years, the entire state will be burned each year.

September 12, 2020 8:22 am

Very strong solar minimum at the present. Something like
the strongest since 1906.
Which as I understand it effect both the storm track and
ocean currents. La Nina is a strong
prediction for the near future.

Lay that over the top of a grossly mismanaged forest and there
it is….If I were made king for a day in CA I would build a group
of biomass plants and start getting things in order. And
make sure at least one of the plants was a solids to liquids
to fuel the machinery…

September 12, 2020 8:42 am

Leftists always try to use a catastrophe to advance their agenda. Conservatives try to deal with the catastrophe and help those affected.

September 12, 2020 8:59 am

I can’t help wondering how much of this is arson. The west coast seems to have lots of folks that like to start fires.

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September 12, 2020 10:27 am
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September 12, 2020 10:29 am
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September 12, 2020 11:39 am
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September 12, 2020 12:13 pm
Russ R.
September 12, 2020 9:03 am

The climate of mexifornia is a special case of the climate west of the Mississippi River. Which has as its defining attribute below average rainfall. It is arid. And that is normal for the area, except the Northwest “rain-forest” of Vancouver, Washington, and the western part of Oregon.
Mexifornia oscillates between the deserts to the south and west, and the rain-forest to the north, as the seasons change and the variations in the weather systems of the Pacific vary from year to year.
Big picture: Mexifornia is a tinder box, with enough rain to promote growth of trees and brush that are hardy enough to survive drought by dormancy.
No matter what you do IT WILL BURN !!!!!
A smart management policy would be to utilize controlled burns, in addition to creating fire breaks, and periodic removal of fuel loads in area prone to compression heated winds.
A stupid management system would be to do nothing and blame “angry Gods” or “climate change” or Republicans when your state goes up in flames.
Stupid people elect stupid politicians. Public schools produce stupid voters. The “cycle of stupid” is strong in mexifornia.

Foley Hund
Reply to  Russ R.
September 12, 2020 5:06 pm



No weather events to start these fires over Labor Day Weekend, but plenty of arsonists withing the antifa and blm crowd. Plenty of film of them burning buildings, police cars, homes, other people… it’s a no brainer!

Bettie Ann Hough
September 12, 2020 9:29 am

Blah blah blah, you sucker punch your constituents everyday with irresponsible and progressive policies. Hoodlums of enormous wealth…Dems did this over decades of greedy politics and if you want change in Cally vote red.

September 12, 2020 9:39 am

Cliff Mass had a segment on this in his podcast. He indicated the intense cold just east of the continental divide is the source of higher atmospheric pressures coupled with the warm, low density air on the west coast. This pressure differential leads to strong winds. Reduce temperature differences by warming the continent should reduce chances of these fire events and modeling he’s done confirms that. It’s a good listen. https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2020/09/new-podcast-smoke-and-fire-plus-weekend.html

September 12, 2020 9:40 am

For progressives, it’s never their fault. No matter what goes wrong, they always have at least one ready made boogeyman to blame things on.

In this case, it’s not their decades of forest mismanagement, it’s climate change.

Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2020 10:46 am

Bugaboo! And, of course, Obama’s now infamous “burden”. Wicked.

September 12, 2020 10:04 am

Whenever decades of government corruption or mismanagement bears it’s bitter fruits the left always has an answer. That answer is it’s our fault! White middleclass people have brought it about and only more power in the hands of the government can fix it!

The “climate change” hoax offers an excuse for virtually everything the left wants and that it absolute power over everyone and every dime. Even this half educated trucker recognized those facts long ago. And yet a huge swath of people supposedly better educated than I, not only fail to see the obvious, they facilitate those that would destroy them and their way of life with their votes and money.

September 12, 2020 10:17 am

Not sure if I can get away with this here on WUWT by posting under another ‘name’ but I may try. Along the lines of the famed Monty Python skits I would like to post under “eyeswideshut” or something similar following the lead of Monty Python utilizing satire, sarcasm, mockery, lampooning, and wit of the original famed producer. Mods beware!

September 12, 2020 10:35 am

Diversity (i.e. color judgments): systemic racism, sexism, genderism?, etc. They’re conventional followers of the Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic, ostensibly “secular” quasi-religion adopted by Progressive Churches, which is infamous for its predilection to conflation of logical domains when it i deemed to be politically congruent/convenient.

September 12, 2020 10:48 am

Just move out of California and take your high tax dollars with you where they will be more appreciated. Voting with your feet is the best solution for these chumps. Tens of thousands of Californians have already figured this out and make this choice everyday.

But the good news is that it looks as if the last person out no longer needs to turn off the lights when they leave.

Reply to  Doonman
September 12, 2020 11:55 am

Gov. Cuomo of New York recently warned Mayor DeBlasio against instituting new taxes on the rich in order to help close NYC’s budget gap. He warned that NYC get’s 50% of it’s budget from the top 1% of income earners (and here I thought the mantra was that the rich aren’t paying their fair share).

I’m guessing that Cuomo is worried that if DeBlasio drives the rich out of NYC, they might decide to leave the state altogether, and that would blow a hole in Cuomo’s budgets as well.

Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2020 12:57 pm

Bunches of them have already left the state and taken their businesses with them.

September 12, 2020 10:52 am

Still giving the science is settled argument, in this case nature did it. And it is all our fault.

Kevin A
September 12, 2020 12:03 pm

@ Doonman is right Anthony, you should leave while you can get something out of your property. If I were in your shoes I’d look at South Dakota with where Governor Kristi Noem has used common sense as a leader.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Kevin A
September 12, 2020 12:19 pm

Here in Arizona, there are bumper stickers appearing that say, “Don’t California my Arizona.”

Now I’d hugely welcome Anthony to Tucson. I’m sure he’d be quite a hit visitng the UA campus and their tree rign lab. But too many of the middle class fleeing Calizuela are also bringing their failed Liberal politics with them to their new states. Arizona is slowly turning blue because of it. We’ve got Mark Kelly, a gun grabber, being supporter financially by Hollywood and East Coast Liberals running against Republican Senator Martha McSally to try to take the US Senate from the GOP’s control. Astronut Kelly’s campaign is being flooded with out of state donations to turn not just here in AZ Blue but the very consequential US Senate.

Here in Tucson, we just had the ignorant Tucson Mayor and City Council declare a “climate emergency,” as if on cue from a coordinated national political campaign to push the agenda. It of course means nothing other than symbolically. But still that ignorant kind of thinking from Democrats is slowly infected the dumbed down population.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 12, 2020 1:10 pm

For Democrats, campaign finance laws are something they don’t have to worry about.


The problem is the media doesn’t care how many laws the Democrats break. All they care is winning and getting the power to steal other people’s money.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
September 15, 2020 10:32 am

“The problem is the media doesn’t care how many laws the Democrats break.”

That *is* the problem. The Democrats can do anything they want to do. They can attempt a coup and the media pretends nothing is happening.

Bill Zipperer
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 12, 2020 8:14 pm

I suggest a slight tweak: “Don’t Californicate Arizona!”
Here in the Phoenix area we also have a reverse The Grapes-of-Wrath problem: well-off
Californians moving here but bringing their voting proclivities too.
[My condolences to you for having to deal with Rep. Grijalva]

Joel O'Bryan
September 12, 2020 12:11 pm

Oregon, Washington, and California Democrats are gonna have a tough time emotionally dealing with 4 1/2 more years of President Trump. They should start medicating now.

If rebellious turds toads like Governors Jay Inslee, Gavin Newsom and Kate Brown want to think about their state seceding from the Union because they hate President Donald Trump, they should keep in mind that southern Democrats who participated in the Confederacy during the War of Secession after having previously sworn an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution.
Those 1860-1861 Democrats running those states rejected the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and then attempted to secede in rebellion. Under the 14th Amendment, having taken an oath to defend the US Constitution and then participated in an insurrection agains the US, they lost the right to ever hold political office again . Every single one, down to judges and Confederate government officials, who participated in the Confederate rebellion never held political office again, banned for life unless COngress by 2/3 vote in both chambers removed the disability.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 12, 2020 1:12 pm

There is nothing in the constitution that bans secession, so secession can’t be unconstitutional.

Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2020 3:08 pm

Hmm, one can easily look at it the other way. There is not provision for succession and so it is not Constitutional. Besides that, name one single nation with a permanent (not provisional) government which provides for that countries dissolution under any circumstances. I know of none.

Further. The Constitution replaced that Articles of Confederation with a strong federalist system because the Articles did not bind the states strongly enough. The last paragraph of the preamble to those articles is:

” Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union between the States of New Hampshire, Massachusetts-bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia.”

Key words “perpetual Union”.

But really this is an academic argument. The founders knew that no words can hold a state or states that had made up their mind to try and leave the Union. Only force of arms can resolve such a dispute as our own Civil War aptly demonstrates.

Reply to  rah
September 12, 2020 5:08 pm

We don’t live in China, where everything that isn’t permitted is forbidden.
Since the constitution doesn’t ban it directly, it’s permitted.

Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2020 7:32 pm

Then I guess I can commit murder and it’s permitted.

Reply to  MarkW
September 13, 2020 2:13 pm

That’s a state responsibility, not federal.

Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2020 8:00 pm

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Secession without consent would seem to fit the bill.

Reply to  n.n
September 13, 2020 2:15 pm

I don’t see anything in that section that refers to secession, much less bans it.

Secession is not making an agreement with a foreign power, and once the state is no longer a state, constitutional restrictions don’t apply to it anymore.

September 12, 2020 12:18 pm

Real time fire map. The Windy of Real Time Assessment tools.
Says Oregon, but covers the whole country. Many additional layers available, like Air Quality, Youtube, etc…

Raptor 2 Public:

September 12, 2020 12:21 pm

EXCLUSIVE: Trump appears in Portland to admonish sinful BLM/anitfa arsonist rioters.


William Lind
September 12, 2020 12:41 pm

Newsom, Pelosi and Mann and three fraudster peas in the same ignoramus pod.

John F Hultquist
September 12, 2020 3:06 pm

Central Washington USA has gotten increasingly smoky throughout today (9/12/2020), some more or less local fire, but most from Oregon and California that got lofted. Cliff Mass has had reports. Still, I’ll guess we have 85% daylight, just a bit yellow.
When I was small (1950), a fire in Canada — <Chinchaga — blotted out the Sun in Western Pennsylvania and the smoke went on to Europe. See “The Great Smoke Pall” in the link. That fire started in Northern British Columbia and “is the single largest recorded fire in North American history
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Many comments here and elsewhere blame forest mis-management for the fires. Actually, the notion is a bit backwards. The reason for massive fires is partly attributable to Smokey Bear. Smokey and the slogan “Smokey Says – Care Will Prevent 9 out of 10 Forest Fires”- – began in 1944.
Studies now suggest that 84% of wild fires are ignited by something that humans are involved in, and there are now more humans. The Western States now have massive amounts of grass, brush, and trees.
There is no good way of getting rid of most of it. We have entered the Era Of Megafires.

Russ R.
Reply to  John F Hultquist
September 12, 2020 3:46 pm

There is a very good way of getting rid of most of it. Burn it when the weather is favorable for containment. The three factors that make for wild fires are: the moisture in the fuel, the moisture in the air, and the wind speed and direction.
All three contribute to fires that burn hot, burn through fuel quickly, and spread to new fuel before you can deal with the current fire.
Burning under optimum containment conditions is the best method, so you are prepared, and the fire is slow to burn, slow to spread, and provide sections of low fuel that will act as a break to future fires.
First remove fuel from the vicinity of power lines. That should be step one. Then clear fuel from residential areas, and make fire breaks in more remote areas. If nothing else it will give you time to slow down the fires to get people out, and fire crews in. Lastly there are known areas that are predisposed to Santa Ana winds that first dry out everything, before igniting it like a blow torch. Those sections need to be cleared of fuel, regularly. They are the unique characteristic that turns manageable fires into wild fires. They go off like a bomb spreading fires for miles so quickly that there is little that can be done, but run for your life.

Reply to  John F Hultquist
September 12, 2020 4:43 pm

“There is no good way of getting rid of most of it. We have entered the Era Of Megafires.”

Biomass energy has been proven to work—-wood gasification is how I’ve heated my
home for many years and how much of Europe has heated their houses for generations.


Canada build several plants to deal with the issue of dead trees..
both energy plants and fuel pellet plants. I know a engineer from
NY that worked on the feed system on a plant 15is yrs ago.

It’s almost as if the political structure doesn’t want a solution.

Russ R.
Reply to  Dan-O
September 12, 2020 5:00 pm

I agree with your point. But the west coast is not conducive to harvesting of biomass. Most of the areas that are fire prone are mountainous and too rugged terrain for machinery to haul tonnage of biomass. It can be done for lumber, because wood has greater value for a construction material than it does for energy.
At some point we may be able to do this in a way that is not too expensive and dangerous. For now I think we will have to do this for areas that are close to residential and power lines, because they are more sensitive to fire and smoke.
Then if we are able to do that successfully it can be expanded to cover more areas that are accessible to vehicles. Within twenty years we could have robots that do most of this work for us, and we would just have to maintain them and direct their movement based on our priorities and our understanding of historical problem areas.

Reply to  Russ R.
September 12, 2020 6:48 pm

I’ve never looked at the financial engineering of the national forest
firefighting machine but given how things are being managed
I might be inclined to think that CALPER’s & other public retirement
fund money is behind the management of
wildfire, eg who is managing the money behind the resources
fighting these fires. Investing in jet slurry bombers vs
chippers at the landing, also given how CA has spent
on wind and solar vs disruptive biomass.

I live in W MT and know a bit about logging…if
it was determined by those in power to manage
these land it would be done.

Foley Hund
Reply to  Dan-O
September 12, 2020 5:23 pm

A solution is hanging arsonists, whether labeled a peaceful protesters or otherwise.

Louis Hunt
September 12, 2020 6:09 pm

I read in an article today that the California fire season now lasts 75 days longer than it used to. That’s a long time. Where do they come up with such “facts”?

Russ R.
Reply to  Louis Hunt
September 12, 2020 10:27 pm

What precisely defines the beginning and end of the “California fire season”? It could be 356 days or it could be 30 days based on what the criteria is. I am sure it is easy to make it seem worse than it is compared to the past, based on how you define it.
Too much drought and it begins to wain because there is not enough fuel. Too much rain and the fire season may be light this year and bad next year, or even the year after.
And the spacing of rain events is important to how severe the current year is, versus how much fuel is accumulating, but not currently dry enough to contribute to large fires.
Saying it is climate change is the same as saying it is due to “witches”. It is a abdication of responsibility by those who have the responsibility to monitor the fuel load, and how dry it is, and did not do what is required..

September 12, 2020 6:26 pm

Naturally the fires on the west coast are branded, like every year, of a sure sign of climate change. But please stop using Tucker Carlson as an expert on the subject. If you want to convince people that it is overdone stop quoting Trumpers and stick to the science.

Reply to  hornblower
September 13, 2020 5:31 am

Science by itself will do nothing to stop the cult of “climate change”. Only public ridicule and their lockout of power will do that. Trumpers are key, as there is no other group, including the church, standing in the way of this new form of paganism.

September 12, 2020 6:54 pm

Newsome is full of it. The actual data shows nothing like what he says.
average CA precipitation from 1930 to present:


Wow. There’s actually been a small 0.1″ increase.
And here’s the annual average temperature for the same period:


A big whooping 2 deg F (and we know that’s probably inflated due to “adjustment” and UHI effects)
(Sorry I couldn’t get these to come out as clickable links)

September 13, 2020 4:38 am

Don’t know if this has been posted, but in prehistory, these fires in California and Oregon today were BELOW the mean on an annual basis.

The lack of management means the forests are now shifting back the regime in pre-settlement times. This means large numbers of fires everywhere.

Let that sink in. These fires are still below the ANNUAL acreage burned each year.

” Our estimate of prehistoric annual area burned in California is 88% of the total annual
wildfire area in the entire US during a decade (1994–2004) characterized as ‘‘extreme’’ regarding wildfires.

The idea that US wildfire area of
approximately two million ha annually is extreme is certainly a 20th or 21st century perspective. Skies were likely smoky much of the summer and
fall in California during the prehistoric period.”


This is mother nature at her normal.

September 13, 2020 10:25 am

CO2 smothers fires.

Gerald Machnee
September 13, 2020 6:47 pm

Here is an article from CBC quoting “experts” from California. Anyone know any of the names?
Then they have this thing they call “attribution” which uses “computer modelling” to assign blame to “climate change”.


September 14, 2020 8:13 am

Hopeless in Sacramento

September 14, 2020 2:54 pm

Hey Anthony, still waiting for you to get your UHI paper peer-reviewed like you have promised me you would do over and over again. What’s it been, like 8 years since you said you would do so?

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