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July 20, 2020 10:30 am
Reply to  JohnC
July 20, 2020 11:01 am

a study predicts.

All said, BS ^10
as usual and by BBC.

Reply to  JohnC
July 20, 2020 2:07 pm

I saw this report earlier and have emailed the BBC and called them out as liars. Also gave them a link to Susan Crockford’s site, and suggested they broadcast a retraction. Not holding my breath.

July 20, 2020 10:34 am

Why are Democrats
Against securing the the Mexican border?
Against voter ID?
For universal mail in voting?

Reply to  Steve Case
July 20, 2020 2:46 pm

And for “sanctuary cities”.
The answer to that might be bigger than just illegal voting. The number of Reps for the House of Representatives is determined by the 10 year census. A head count of people, not just US citizens.
(Any wonder why they fought so hard against that question, which had been on past censuses, about being a US citizen?)

Reply to  Gunga Din
July 20, 2020 3:51 pm

Gunga Din July 20, 2020 at 2:46 pm
And for “sanctuary cities”.

Thank you for that tidbit – I appreciate that.

July 20, 2020 12:04 pm

Another moron prediction to note for future entertainment: Polar bears will be gone! by 2100:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-53474445

Reply to  Phil Salmon
July 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Not moron predictions, Phil. Lies.

Susan Crockford has shown — without actually saying so directly — that Steven Amstrup has been dissembling for years about polar bears in trouble.

July 20, 2020 12:57 pm

Susan Crockford has some comments (at the bottom) about the latest polar bear extinction stories.
———————————

Climate change ‘could wipe out polar bears in 80 years’ as melting sea ice forces them onto land and away from their natural hunting grounds, study warns
Researchers forecast how greenhouse gas emissions would impact on sea ice
Polar bears rely on Arctic sea ice to live as they use it when they hunt prey
Study found current emissions will see polar bears forced on to land to live
This will lead to severe population decline by 2100 as they will be reliant on fat reserves to survive
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8541481/Global-warming-polar-bears-disappear-Arctic-2100-study.html

Most polar bears to disappear by 2100, study predicts
Melting Arctic sea ice could cause starvation and reproductive failure for many as early as 2040, scientists warn
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/20/most-polar-bears-to-disappear-by-2100-study-predicts-aoe

Fasting season length sets temporal limits for global polar bear persistence (By Amstrup)
Polar bears (Ursus maritimus) require sea ice for capturing seals and are expected to decline range-wide as global warming and sea-ice loss continue. Estimating when different subpopulations will likely begin to decline has not been possible to date because data linking ice availability to demographic performance are unavailable for most subpopulations and unobtainable a priori for the projected but yet-to-be-observed low ice extremes.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-020-0818-9

New model of predicted polar bear extinction is not scientifically plausible
Apparently, a prediction that polar bears could be nearly extinct by 2100 (which was first suggested back in 2007) is news today because there is a new model. As for all previous models, this prediction of future polar bear devastation depends on using the so-called ‘business as usual’ RCP8.5 climate scenario, which has been roundly criticized in recent years as totally implausible, which even the BBC has mentioned.
https://polarbearscience.com/2020/07/20/new-model-of-predicted-polar-bear-extinction-is-not-scientifically-plausible/

griff
Reply to  Cam_S
July 21, 2020 7:07 am

and yet we again see a record lowest for date arctic sea ice extent. No sign of any ‘recovery’.

Reply to  griff
July 21, 2020 8:57 am

Below average temperatures
Arctic Temperatures – Daily Mean Temperatures North of 80 degree North.

paul courtney
Reply to  griff
July 23, 2020 12:48 pm

Way to jump in, griff. I don’t see a link, but you wouldn’t try to slip one past us. So what if all the ice disappears, polar bears disappear also? If you say the lack of ice will even reduce the polar bear population, we’re gonna need a link.

TRM
July 20, 2020 6:42 pm

2020-07-20: First the year to date total/excess deaths.
The data is from the CDC for weeks 1 to 26 in 2020 (Jan to June). West Virginia, Connecticut and North Carolina are all missing week 26 (as usual those 3 states seem to be late reporting). But with 1,300+ data sets (52 data sets times 26 weeks) missing 3 weeks of data shouldn’t be a big problem.

For 2020 the USA has a year to date “excess death” rate about 10.5% (143,3230) higher than the previous 4 year average for weeks 1 to 26. To put that in perspective the 2017-18 influenza peaked at just over 7% so this is similar to the Asian & Hong Kong flu of the late 50’s & 60’s.

Next up the month by month total/excess death results. I ran the script for each month. All 50 states plus DC and New York City (the CDC counts it separate from New York state for some reason).

Here are some of the states making the news and entire USA for January to June:

CDC Area: Jan; Feb; Mar; Apr; May; June
—————————————————
NY State: -0.7; +1.7; +8.5; 95.1; 29.9; 28.9
NY City: -2.1; -0.8; 50.7; 442.7; 60.1; 58.5
Texas: +0.4; +3.1; +5.7; 12.7; 13.1; 10.1
Georgia: +1.0; +5.3; +5.2; 22.5; 17.1; 7.5
Florida: +2.7; +2.9; +6.0; 12.0; 11.4; 10.5
USA: -0.2; +1.4; +5.2; 36.2; 18.4; 11.6

All data from this page:
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

Script, data, spreadsheet & methods are available at:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fh9x5fngmfbeiiu/AAAH-OtOMqiY_R9qqG6YccCRa?dl=0

Check out your state in the spreadsheet and see how it compares.

Reply to  TRM
July 21, 2020 2:31 pm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Table 2 provides state data and shows all causes-deaths this year from February on, compared to averages for 2013-2019. The US total is only 6% over previous years, although New York City is double the previous average

TRM
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
July 21, 2020 6:55 pm

Thanks a bunch for the link. Finding things on the CDC site is “fun”.

I don’t see the average for 2013-19 (7 years). Their average is based on 2017-19 (3 years). From footnote 2:
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“2Percent of expected deaths is the number of deaths for all causes for this week in 2020 compared to the average number across the same week in 2017–2019. Previous analyses of 2015–2016 provisional data completeness have found that completeness is lower in the first few weeks following the date of death (<25%), and then increases over time such that data are generally at least 75% complete within 8 weeks of when the death occurred (8)."
—————————–

I decided to go with the preceding 4 years for my average because I didn't want the 2017-18 influenza season to overly affect the results. Starting then will result in a lower number as it was a bad influenza season.

Thanks again.

Reply to  TRM
July 21, 2020 2:41 pm

Let’s try this with the <code> tag:


CDC Area: Jan; Feb; Mar; Apr; May; June
—————————————————
NY State: -0.7; +1.7; +8.5; 95.1; 29.9; 28.9
NY City: -2.1; -0.8; 50.7; 442.7; 60.1; 58.5
Texas: +0.4; +3.1; +5.7; 12.7; 13.1; 10.1
Georgia: +1.0; +5.3; +5.2; 22.5; 17.1; 7.5
Florida: +2.7; +2.9; +6.0; 12.0; 11.4; 10.5
USA: -0.2; +1.4; +5.2; 36.2; 18.4; 11.6

Reply to  _Jim
July 21, 2020 2:43 pm

and again (used notepad this time to adjust spacing):


CDC Area: Jan; Feb; Mar; Apr; May; June
—————————————————
NY State: -0.7; +1.7; +8.5; 95.1; 29.9; 28.9
NY City: -2.1; -0.8; 50.7; 442.7; 60.1; 58.5
Texas: +0.4; +3.1; +5.7; 12.7; 13.1; 10.1
Georgia: +1.0; +5.3; +5.2; 22.5; 17.1; 7.5
Florida: +2.7; +2.9; +6.0; 12.0; 11.4; 10.5
USA: -0.2; +1.4; +5.2; 36.2; 18.4; 11.6

TRM
Reply to  _Jim
July 21, 2020 6:58 pm

Doh!!! Thank you very much. I do BASH & Powershell but not much in the HTML or Markdown other than copy and paste stuff for some Jupyter Notebooks I do up.

I’ve been meaning to look up how to do this very thing on stackoverflow for a while now but keep forgetting.

I owe you beer or coffee 🙂

Reply to  TRM
July 22, 2020 5:41 am

Well, thanks for the beer, but, in my browser I’m not seeing quite the desired effect yet! Normally the code tag respects added spaces and uses a fixed font spacing, to, well, correctly show “code”! Maybe its a browser thing, (although I tried a 2nd browser) or maybe ‘code’ doesn’t work properly on WP?

TRM
Reply to  _Jim
July 22, 2020 6:45 pm

It might be this site. I tried it today on another site and it worked perfectly. I don’t know how WordPress renders and interprets HTML. One of the things that bugs me about HTML is how stuff that works great on one site/browser fails on others.

Thanks again

Megs
July 20, 2020 6:51 pm

More than 500 comments! We must all be suffering from withdrawal and this is the only WUWT fix we can get.

Earthling2
Reply to  Megs
July 21, 2020 8:21 am

I like this open thread concept, and hopefully a new one will be started every Monday morning, and ends Sunday night, every week. The downside is that after 500 comments, it becomes a little unwieldily to find others and your own comments again with endless scrolling required. But when things get back to normal with 5-6 new articles a day, it would probably be more manageable and the open thread concept is a great way for folks to introduce new ideas and be able to exchange information and will be less unwieldily with so many comments and threads.

One thing is evident and that is WUWT appears to be a wee bit addictive. That says a lot about the integrity of the site that so many of us would rather spend our time here than a million other places on the interwebs. I learn more here than I do anywhere else about many things, so that says a lot about the intelligence of the average commenter and the great main posts. But the biggest benefit is learning to think critically and be able to spot things that don’t add up, like misinformed CAGW theory, which was/is the main purpose here. Long live WUWT.

Reply to  Earthling2
July 21, 2020 8:50 am

There is an easy to find what you search:
CTRL-F in your browser, and ……
search for date, name, key word, what ever 😀

Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 21, 2020 9:01 am

…easy way to…..

July 20, 2020 10:26 pm

super cool idea

turns out cheaper, faster, less sensitive tests may be better from an OPERATIONAL standpoint.

The basic idea is this.

PCR testing is very sensitive. It detects the virus in the early stage of detection when CT values are high
( its an inverse scale)
But the testing is expensive, and slow.
Good fast cheap, : it is Good, slow expensive.

Instead, use monoclonal antibody tests printed on little cardboard strips. cost about a buck, results in minutes. its less sensitive ( misses early positives) , but a truly infected person who tests negative
on day 1, will correctly test positive on day 2. because Mr virus is replicating

medcram
https://youtu.be/h7Sv_pS8MgQ?t=203

original video

https://youtu.be/kDj4Zyq3yOA?t=227

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Steven Mosher
July 21, 2020 6:20 am

That is excellent Steve, thanks. I watched the original video (2nd link). We appear to be testing all wrong, catching many people at a stage where the virus is no longer transmissable, and spending way more money doing it. With the $1 test, used every day, especially in hot spots, those who are truly able to transmit the disease (before symptoms appear) could be quarantined quickly, before they do in fact, transmit to others. Contact tracing, which is mostly useless now becomes much easier and more accurate.

TRM
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2020 7:29 am

Quarantine the sick? Crazy thought there Bruce. We’ll just quarantine everyone because some bogus code says to. Here’s hoping sanity returns soon. A lot of people are losing their patience.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2020 7:43 am

I personally know two people who went to a free testing site, filled out all the paperwork, sat in their cars for over 3 hours and left without ever taking the test. They received notice several days later that they were positive .
I suppose payment is dependent on number of tests completed but now those people could be required to quarantine for no reason.

TRM
Reply to  Steven Mosher
July 21, 2020 7:26 am

“Good fast cheap” LOL. You forgot the second part “PICK TWO” 🙂

It does make sense and like you said if it misses on day one it will get it on day two or three. We definitely need accurate, quick, inexpensive testing.

In the tech industry we always tell the project managers to “PICK TWO” because all 3 at once just isn’t happening.

July 21, 2020 4:45 am
Bruce Cobb
Reply to  John
July 21, 2020 6:39 am

Ms Thunberg said she will be donating the prize money to charitable projects that are combating “the climate and ecological crisis”.
Hmmm. It would have been far far better if she had instead donated the money to the spooks, hobgoblins, and space aliens crisis.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2020 8:09 am

spooks, hobgoblins, and space aliens don’t play well (collude) with others … none of the money would get funneled back to her parents or her ….

Megs
Reply to  John
July 21, 2020 2:41 pm

Greta is the poster girl for the Marxist push. She is helping to devastate the world and it’s environment.

Look at all the worst of socialism and communism, the corruption and greed, the disdain of poor people. That is where we are headed.

Thanks Greta.

Tom in Florida
July 21, 2020 4:48 am

My bookmark for WUWT has disappeared. I cannot bookmark it again. Is anyone else having this problem?
Any ideas about this or how to fix it?

MikeP
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 21, 2020 5:43 am

Guess on new server, with checkout and refinement of system rather than new posts … hope that’s it.

Yirgach
Reply to  MikeP
July 21, 2020 6:54 am

The host Ip for wattsupwiththat.com:
wattsupwiththat.com. 1387 IN A 199.16.172.80
wattsupwiththat.com. 1387 IN A 199.16.173.52

Which is part of a netblock 199.16.172.0/22 owned by pressable.com, managed wordpress hosting…
Are we there yet?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 21, 2020 6:11 am

No worries, problem fixed. Nothing to do with this site.

Tom Abbott
July 21, 2020 6:16 am

Joe “China” Biden says if he is elected, his administration “will look like America”.

I guess this means Joe Biden’s administration will be made up of 65 percent white people, 15 percent black people, 15 percent Hispanic people, and about 5 percent “other”.

That’s what America looks like.

paul courtney
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 23, 2020 12:55 pm

A biden admin will look like America if you are standing on an ivy league campus.

Tom Abbott
July 21, 2020 6:27 am

Rush Limbaugh was talking yesterday about the recent polls that have Trump trailing Biden.

Rush said during the 2016 elections and the 2018 mid-term elections, Republicans represented 33 percent of the votes.

Rush said a “deep-dive” was taken into the recent polls and the polls are only polling 24 percent of Republicans instead of 33 percent.

This naturally skews the polls in favor of the Democrats. This was the same thing that was done during the 2016 elections where every poll showed Hillary Clinton beating Trump.

So just be aware that you are experiencing a blizzard of disinformation in the runup to the November presidential election and polls are in the forefront. The Left is trying to demoralize Trump’s supporters by distorting the truth and making it look as bad as possible.

But the propagandists on the Left haven’t made a dent in Trump’s support. He now has about 96 percent support from his base. He had 83 percent support from his base in 2016, and that was enough to get him elected.

The Left is trying to create a false reality where Biden is winning and Trump is losing. The Left wants to believe that, and they want you to believe that, too.

Don’t take anything the Left and the Leftwing Media says at face value. They are full of lies.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 21, 2020 7:36 am

They are setting up another false narrative so when Trump wins a second term they can call interference again.
They know they have a loser in Biden. C’mon, 40+ failed years in Washington and NOW he has answers?

Scissor
Reply to  Tom in Florida
July 21, 2020 8:12 am

Come on, man. Are you a lying dog face pony soldier or something? Release all the criminals and defund the police. What could go wrong?

Megs
Reply to  Scissor
July 21, 2020 4:08 pm

Scissor we have a serious problem with violence in our outback indigenous community her in Australia. Our aboriginal people have extensive land rights, free education through to university (if they’d only take advantage of it), free housing, free healthcare and free travel. They also receive generous royalties from mining companies.

Getting the children to go to school is a big problem when their families don’t see why they should have to go. Subsequently many of these kids don’t speak English. It’s not like white Australians could simply learn their language as there are around 350 different dialects.

Getting a job is tricky for anybody living in remote areas, having little education and speaking little to no English makes it nearly impossible. This is why unemployment is so high in the indigenous community and why so many of them are on welfare benefits. They call it ‘sit down money’.

Alcohol was and is a huge problem in these communities to a point where limits and restricted sales were bought in. In more recent times drugs are becoming a more serious issue. Violence is rife, men and women. Some use ‘tribal’ law as an excuse for violence. They call it punishment, or retribution. We see it as brutality and murder. The numbers of indigenous people in custody is disproportionate to their population.

Many of the educated indigenous Australians who live in the cities are part of the ‘woke’ community and have views about how their ‘brothers’ ought to be treated. Most of them however have never ‘lived the life’ of their indigenous brothers.

A group was set up to develop policies for change, included in this group was the Greens (political party) and representatives of the aboriginal community. They had some interesting suggestions. Many of the aboriginals currently incarcerated should be released, if an aboriginal is arrested for committing a crime then he or she should not have to ‘make bail’, the drug ‘ice’ should be made legal and the police should be defunded.

That ought to work well.

Scissor
Reply to  Megs
July 21, 2020 6:50 pm

There are a lot of things that are messed up for sure. I used to think that education was the answer.

I have a daughter down there, I’ll have to ask her more about it. Thanks for the summary.

July 21, 2020 7:27 am

Griff

It is quite a bit cooler here this winter and from what I hear it seems the oceans are cooling as well, especially here in the SH

https://breadonthewater.co.za/2020/07/07/brrr-it-is-getting-colder/

I think that will be the cause of the coming droughts (click on my name)

You won’t stop the arctic (and Greenland) melt. It seems whole villages that the Vikingers built in Greenland are now becoming visible. It seems like it is a 1000 year thing. Maybe the movement of earth’s inner core? (as witnessed by the change in the magnetic north pole)

Hence, one of our fore fathers (ca. 1584) , Willem Barentz, was convinced of an easy passage to the east via the north. He must have read or had access to some ancient Vikinger’s reports.
Pity that people like you griff (and the IPCC) don’t want to look for that passage anymore, not even wanting to find it, like Willem did, for the good of human kind.
Is it not sad to think about the fact that what you want (more ice in the arctic ) is what cost Willem Barentz’s and his crew their lives….he was 400 years too early…..

rbabcock
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 21, 2020 8:38 am

Everything you wanted to know about Greenland’s ice sheet http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland/surface-conditions/

Reply to  Henry Pool
July 21, 2020 9:00 am

The Amplified Arctic Warming in the Recent Decades may Have Been Overestimated by CMIP5 Models

Realistically representing the Arctic amplification in global climate models (GCMs) represents a key to accurately predict the climate system’s response to increasing anthropogenic forcings. We examined the amplified Arctic warming over the past century simulated by 36 state‐of‐the‐art GCMs against observation. We found a clear difference between the simulations and the observation in terms of the evolution of the secular warming rates. The observed rates of the secular Arctic warming increase from 0.14 °C/10a in the early 1890s to 0.21 °C/10a in the mid‐2010s, while the GCMs show a negligible trend to 0.35 °C/10a at the corresponding times. The overestimation of the secular warming rate in the GCMs starts from the mid‐twentieth century and aggravates with time. Further analysis indicates that the overestimation mainly comes from the exaggerated heating contribution from the Arctic sea ice melting. This result implies that the future secular Arctic warming may have been over‐projected.

The Amplified Arctic Warming in the Recent Decades may Have Been Overestimated by CMIP5 Models

griff
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 22, 2020 3:15 am

Well this year the Russian Northern Sea route opened up at one of the earliest dates in the last century!

I assume that’s the way he was heading… so good old William would have been sailing in clear seas under sunny, if smoke filled, skies!

It must surely be an indication that the climate is shifting warmer if year on year the sea ice declines?

Reply to  griff
July 22, 2020 3:53 am

“It must surely be an indication that the climate is shifting warmer if year on year the sea ice declines?”

No, it’s just weather, expect this pattern for the next 30 years. This is yet more anecdotal evidence that we are now in a typical meridional phase of a weather cycle as identified in his studies of climate history by the late Professor H.H. Lamb, the renowned climatologist. https://crudata.uea.ac.uk/cru/pubs/byauthor/lamb_hh.htm

Warm winds from the south blow the sea ice away from the north coast of Siberia
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=71.0;124.1;3&l=temperature-2m&t=20200623/0900
creating in effect a gigantic latent heat polynya.
https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/seaice/characteristics/polynyas.html

Henry Pool
Reply to  griff
July 22, 2020 5:18 am

R u not happy abt it?

Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2020 7:46 am

If only Trump wasn’t such a dolt. I wish I didn’t have to vote for him. But the Dumbocrats are actually responsible for that. They still just don’t get it, that they are responsible for Trump. But Trump is really pushing his luck now with his idiocies regarding covid19.

Scissor
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2020 8:15 am

You’re correct. Marxists are taking over the demo☭rats. They really should have their own party.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2020 12:32 pm

Yeah … only ‘dolts’ get the classy women and get to own their own big jets …

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  _Jim
July 21, 2020 1:20 pm

Red herring much?

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 22, 2020 6:37 am

Lose track of the plot much?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  _Jim
July 22, 2020 7:23 am

If by “the plot” you mean being truthful about Trump and criticizing him, even though still planning to vote for him, then, never.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 22, 2020 7:42 am

Bruce Cobb,

Perhaps a most conflicted and tortured individual when it comes to politics? The question that must be asked is: Do you really know the truth? The likelihood, I propose, is nil.

Even given OMB’s (Orange Man Bad) demonstrated ‘track record’, you seem to be choosing the path of … high and mighty ‘virtue signaller’ … you don’t really have to do that anymore.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 22, 2020 6:16 pm

“But Trump is really pushing his luck now with his idiocies regarding covid19.”

yup he missed a huge opportunity to take the strongest action and take credit for the enevitable
decline in cases and deaths. Take the strongest action and claim credit for all the mild cases.

1. impose the strictest travel ban as early as possible, take credit for reducing deaths below the wildest
highest model projections.
2. on shore production of masks, How? Simple Buy and distribute to the states

http://www.hengyaoultrasonic.com/medicalmachine.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwx9_4BRAHEiwApAt0zitKlcLb1tSSscYp-UnRav0rG3UUzT-XoL8F5-moQUB4UPrDW2v_KBoCwXcQAvD_BwE

Doesnt matter how well it works, take action, early action, and claim credit for a reduction

3. Massive vitamin D distribution, is it proven? nope. doesnt matter, take the action, claim the
the credit. claim credit for all the mild cases.

4. Masks, national emergency order. Will it work? early on many democrats rejected masks,
they probably would have sued, that would be election gold today. Again, if you
DO NOTHING, every bad thing that happens will be laid at your door, and you’ll get
zero credit for the good things. Take bold action, and then
A) claim credit for every GOOD THING
B) and for bad things? well it would have been worse but for your action.

5. Get on YOUR numbers!
A) how many ventilators did you have built… every day publish the number
B) how much PPE did you distribute, every day publish the number
c) how many masks produced? every day, update the number
D) how many emergency test centers did you set up? Number, every day push it
E) how many test reagents did you ship? Every day, push the number.

etc etc etc The point is, take action, measure the output, push the number.
This is PURE OPTICS.

Trump had an opportunity to take charge, take strong action, and push numbers that show
the actual output of those decisions.

Here is the point. It is almost always the case that it is better to ACT than to not act. especially when
uncertainty abounds.

Think about this.

IF you believe the disease will just “go away” What should you do

A) Do NOTHING or very little?
B) Take action and claim credit when it does go away.

Gimme putt IF you believe it will just go away

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 23, 2020 11:47 am

Yes, Trump is not infallible, but at least he’s not malicious.

July 21, 2020 12:30 pm
goldminor
July 21, 2020 12:53 pm

China is having some very serious food issues due to the flooding and inept/corrupt managers at major granaries. … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfCKhozjF8k

And the rain keeps falling on the Yangtze River.

rbabcock
Reply to  goldminor
July 21, 2020 1:21 pm

That’s impressive.. just about every disaster known to man (and woman and in between). If the 3 Gorges Dam breaks, it just might top them all.

July 21, 2020 2:30 pm

The argument is made that we are in Civil War 2.0:

William Astley
Reply to  _Jim
July 22, 2020 12:46 pm

Civil War? What does the evidence tell you?

What has happened in the US in the last 10 years? In the last year? What has changed?

Covid felt like an attack on our countries and our way of life. If covid had not happened would we be fighting or just enjoying the summer and low unemployment?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53497193

In a separate statement, the State Department accused China of engaging “in massive illegal spying and influence operations”, interfering in “domestic politics” as well as having “coerced our business leaders, threatened families of Chinese Americans residing in China, and more”.

“We’ve now reached a point where the FBI is now opening a new China-related counterintelligence case every 10 hours,” Mr Wray said. “Of the nearly 5,000 active counterintelligence cases currently under way across the country, almost half are related to China.”

China is taking more and more risks, threatening Chinese nationals in the US, rather than waiting for the Democrats to win the next election.

China is now, suddenly, taking unnecessary risks … rather than waiting for what it appears the fake media have guaranteed, a Democratic victory in the fall.

That is really odd. It is as if there is a deadline and this is the ramp up to the deadline.

China is unexplainably, suddenly started to taking aggressive unnecessary risks in the US, bribing US officials, openly interfering directly in the US election with anti-Trump ads, interfering to slow down covid research, and so on.

China is the only country in the world that now has a positive GDP.

The object of the CAGW plot/There is no limit to spending plot/fight over statues plot/have no borders plot/get fanatics into one US party plot/help set up cells of anarchists in the US plot/…

… is to make Democratic countries, particularly the US, ungovernable.

To create special interest groups who have impossible demands.

Economic war can be won and lost.

Reply to  William Astley
July 22, 2020 1:20 pm

re: “Civil War? What does the evidence tell you?”

Did you read my caption, ” The argument is made that we are in Civil War 2.0: “? That kinda intimates the answer TO YOUR QUESTION is in the video.

But, I can give a SHORTHAND version: It’s the attack on federal property in Portland Oregon (has NOTHING to do with China*) as aided and abetted by local governmental authorities (you MAY not be up to speed on all that has taken place there is the last 55 days.) Are you familiar with what is called The Civil War in this country (the US)? Does the term Fort Sumter ring a bell?

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Unless it can be shown the CPC (Communist Party of China) is providing funding to Antiday et al.

Reply to  _Jim
July 22, 2020 1:21 pm

s/b: “funding to Antifa.”

David Lilley
July 22, 2020 5:09 am

Here’s a question for any virologists. Do you need to be continually in contact with multiple viruses (low viral load) in order for your immune system to remain healthy ? If yes, has all this social distancing, mask wearing and sheltering reduced our ability to cope with any virus with which we come into contact ?

Scissor
Reply to  David Lilley
July 22, 2020 5:56 am

A followup question might be is it even possible to not to be in contact with numerous pathogens?

Ideally, one would want to be exposed to a low Goldilocks viral load that stimulates one’s immune system. Unfortunately, like so much, this is involves much inexact science.

John VC
Reply to  Scissor
July 22, 2020 8:32 am

I’ve always thought that a little “dirt” in ones diet is a good thing. Any antibiotic cleaning substance that claims a 99.9% kill rate is very dangerous in my mind. As more and more is learned about the microbiome we all have internally, externally, and surrounded by in the world we live in , the more it appears that all those little buggers provide for the most part a very important service to our overall state of health. Not to say that for still unknown reasons that biome can sometimes get quite out of wack

July 22, 2020 6:27 am

From my email:

Dear All,
Very bad news. JCU succeeded on appeal.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/peter-ridd-legal-action-fund-2019

Slyrik
Reply to  Steve Case
July 22, 2020 8:56 am

That is simply appalling … the level of lawfare only gets worse

July 22, 2020 9:40 am

James Cook University wins appeal in Peter Ridd unfair dismissal case
Federal court decision overturns earlier finding that the university contravened the Fair Work Act when it dismissed academic

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/22/james-cook-university-wins-appeal-in-peter-ridd-unfair-dismissal-case

u.k.(us)
July 22, 2020 10:41 am

This kind of “idle”.

Tom Abbott
July 22, 2020 10:50 am

https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2020/07/22/Telescope-snaps-first-photo-of-sun-like-star-two-giant-exoplanets/4831595424065/

Telescope snaps first photo of sun-like star, two giant exoplanets

By Brooks Hays

“July 22 (UPI) — For the first time ever, astronomers have captured images of a multi-planet system featuring a sun-like star, according to study published Tuesday in the Astrophysical Journal Letters.

Photographs of the star, TYC 8998-760-1, were captured using the European Southern Observatory’s Very Large Telescope. Observations of the sun-like star, located 300 light-years from Earth, revealed the presence of two giant exoplanets.

“This discovery is a snapshot of an environment that is very similar to our Solar System, but at a much earlier stage of its evolution,” Alexander Bohn, doctoral student at Leiden University in the Netherlands, said in a news release.

Though astronomers have identified thousands of exoplanets, few have been directly imaged. Planetary systems with two or more exoplanets have been directly imaged twice before, but both featured stars quite different from the sun, researchers said. ”

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Tom Abbott
July 22, 2020 11:56 am

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/wheeler-epa-airplane-emissions/2020/07/22/id/978422/

Sources: EPA to Propose First-Ever Airplane Emissions Standards

“The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is set Wednesday to announce the first proposed U.S. emissions standards for commercial aircraft, officials briefed on the matter said.

In 2016, the U.N. International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) agreed on global airplane emissions standards aimed at makers of small and large planes, including Airbus SE and Boeing Co, which both backed the standards.

The EPA-proposed regulation would align the United States with the ICAO standards, officials said, and would apply to new type designs as of January 2020 and to in-production airplanes or those with amended type certificates starting in 2028. They would not apply to airplanes currently in use.

EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler said in a statement to Reuters the forthcoming airplane emissions proposal – along with other emissions regulations – represented “sensible, legally defendable steps to regulate greenhouse gases, while safeguarding American jobs and the economy.”

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Tell me again why we need to regulate CO2?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 22, 2020 12:27 pm

re: “Tell me again why we need to regulate CO2?”

To give SunCell ™ sales a kick in the azz?

(HEY – Its just a joke, don’t castigate me to Hades and back for it.)

July 22, 2020 12:46 pm

“Redefining Violence in the Wake of the George Floyd Protests”
19,080 views Jul 22, 2020

July 22, 2020 12:56 pm

Tom Abott

Seems that soon it wont be necessary to cut CO2

https://breadonthewater.co.za/2020/07/07/brrr-it-is-getting-colder/

Looks like SH is already carbon negative

LOL

July 22, 2020 1:32 pm

William Astley, take note, as your preferred MSM outlet may not be covering this event:

“Chinese Consulate CAUGHT Frantically Burning Documents Amid Spying Charges, US-China Cold War Is Now”

Note, William, the use of the term “COLD WAR” not CIVIL WAR in the above (a distinction WITH a difference.)

John VC
Reply to  _Jim
July 22, 2020 1:41 pm

would that be the consulate in Houston that was told to close immediately??? I suspect most if not all of what is going into the incinerator is pretty mundane. Keeping spy craft hanging around in hard form would be outright silly. Usually when I move after many years at the same address, it’s time to light up the old burn barrel since there is no point in dragging along old utility bills, canceled checks and all that rot.
Of course, since China is now the enemy du jure got to stoke the narrative up to full speed.

Reply to  John VC
July 22, 2020 1:58 pm

re: “would that be the consulate in Houston that was told to close immediately???”

You’re good. Let no one contend otherwise …

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John VC
July 23, 2020 5:38 am

The Chinese communists messed up when they intentionally infected the world with the Wuhan virus.

Trump is not going to play nice with Xi anymore. It’s going to be hardball now. And it couldn’t come soon enough. Ignoring an approaching danger is not a good strategy.

The cowardly EU politicians are even getting into this game, with Britain and now France declining to do business with the CCP’s Hawei. More to follow.

And of course, we have American radical Democrats wanting to kiss and make up with the Communist Chinese.

I hear the CCP is even financing some efforts to add to the disruptions going on in a few parts of the United States right now. Before you know it, the US may be frog marching Chinese diplomats and maybe even George Soros to the lockup.

Notice I said ” a few parts of the United States” above. I did that to contrast with the lying News Media’s, including Fox News, narrative that there is violence “across the nation” as if every city in the US is on fire, when the facts are there are a handful of trouble spots while the rest of the nation is doing just fine.

And those trouble spots are all run by delusional Democrats who not only won’t help the people they represent, but actively resist allowing President Trump to come in and do the job for them. They want to call him a dictator for trying to prevent innocent people from being slaughtered. Democrat leaders belong in an insane asylum. The inmates are running the Instituions.

The Chinese communists would just love it if Joe Biden were elected president. Their problems would be solved because they already have enough dirt on Biden to blackmail him into cooperation. The Chinese communists have paid Biden and his son, Where’s Hunter, millions of dollars. We’ll probably explore that during the upcoming presidential debates, assuming Joe is up for a debate. I doubt it. Even if he shows up.

In a rational world, come November 3, all these delusional Democrats would be voted out of office. Let’s hope most of us live in a rational world, not the artificial, false reality perpetrated by the lying News Media.

John VC
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 23, 2020 7:11 am

The Chinese communists messed up when they intentionally infected the world with the Wuhan virus.

Do you really believe that Tom??? I know that is the claim in certain quarters, but there is ample evidence to the contrary.

Henry Pool
Reply to  John VC
July 23, 2020 7:41 am

John vc

The key that points to the fact that China did not care about what happened to ‘them’ meaning the world at large, lies in the fact that local airports in China were closed to traffic from Wuhan whilst intl traffic from Wuhan was allowed to carry on. They traced the infection in Italy from Wuhan….
There is also some eveidence that patient zero was a bio technician working at the relevant virus institute in Wuhan.

Megs
Reply to  Henry Pool
July 23, 2020 3:16 pm

China was also insisting that it would be fine for students to return to our Australian Universities. There are thousands of them.