Dear Greta,
So you got what you wanted.
“System change & Economic Slowdown” is a real thing now.
Airplanes, industry, jobs, restaurants, recreation, and schools are all shut down.
Instead we have fear, poverty, misery, joblessness, economic ruin, and a bleak future.
Happy now?
Anthony Watts
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It’s well known that a debt ‘crisis’ has been hanging over the world since 2008 and indeed 2001, when the crash that should have happened after 9-11 was averted by QE.
Given the irrational nature of the financial situation, and the impossibility of a correction (you can’t taper a Ponzi scheme) most economists have been amazed that the whole rotten edifice remained standing.
A Black Swan event was required and duly materialised in the form of WuFlu.
After many failed attempts, the Millennial Crisis longed for by the media has finally arrived, and now they and their partners in government are revelling in the moment. Misinformation and control; hand in hand.
Has anyone else noticed that the people who have brought his on are the same people who persistently promoted the Climate Crisis and attacked President Trump?
We are living in ‘interesting times’.
I’m afraid she just might be..
I absolutely love the enlightened Mr. Watts. I am one of many here who remembers when he (and we) thought that the doomers were operating out of principle. No one would have uttered the word “fraud”. I look back on those days with wistfulness. It is very sad to realize the depths of evil that lurk in our once amazing institutions. You, sir, absolutely ROCK!!!
President Trump is committing economic suicide. He is not leading, he is following. He has feet of clay and needs to do an about face.
I’m always stunned to discover how easy it is to run a large country and economy.
As long as you don’t actually have to run them, of course!
He does need to counter the over-reach of some of the governors and mayors that seem eager to inflict unnecessary economic harm on their populace. In PA they shut down logging but left paper mills open. Makes sense, right?
RobJ March 20, 2020 at 4:19 am
…In PA they shut down logging but left paper mills open. Makes sense, right?
Starve the source, that worked for Stalin’s 1932 genocide in the Ukraine.
Government bureaucracy is unwieldy and slow. That’s one reason to want as little government bureaucracy as possible while still accomplishing the necessay jobs government needs to do (the Conservative position on government).
About the only time a government bureaucracy can work efficiently is when the leader of that government gets personally involved and cuts through all the red tape that is invariably involved.
That’s why Chinese communist bureaucracies work better than Western bureaucracies in most cases.
Fortunately for the United States, Trump is a prolific regulation/red tape buster, which is one reason the U.S. economy was booming until a couple of months ago..
The economic and social disruption being caused by CV 19 and perhaps our over reaction to it, will be claimed by the CAGW mob to be just a taste of whats coming with another degree of warming. Just waiting for the BS to start.
Simply put, as usual, I think Anthony is correct, as he is as well on the Climate Change issue, and all the incredible, and I would also add devious ways that much of the climate INFORMATION HAS BEEN MANIPULATED. Please note the latest from the associated press saying, “2019 was the second warmest year on record”. Who are these people that do not even recognize that the Medieval Warm period was in fact a time when it was warmer than the recent past. I will sign my name, if you don’t mind as Rod Chilton, a climatologist that is a naysayer to the present, or should I more correctly say recent warming as human caused.
…. and this is just a start. Corona virus eventually will fade into background but the long term damage may hang around for years, a decade or even longer, world wide economic recession or even depression.
Our children will not know what the wind turbines and solar panel farms were for, the white elephants of the Anthropocene.
Im hearing that but really/
why?
moratoria on loan repayments rent halts etc can all be given tax breaks or other sweeteners life resumes people very happily return to work and life rolls on
big deal if banks dont make profit and just go to limbo for the required time.
annoyed at huge airline bailouts when they post billions in profits and shareholders dont get all that, so they dont have a backup stash? halting airport fees of govts is fine theyre just glorified carparks at the moment anyway. supporting staff with soc sec benefits if they dont have long service hold or super funds access is fair too, for ALL who require it.
some people will realise eating in home cooked is far better than eating out;-)
but most will just revert to pre covid habits asap
farmers are still working so are the procesors and truckies
the unsung heros in China were the pwower n water people who got no mention and kept it all on and working, as well as the docs nurses and support staff
Yep. Nothing to see here. Pollution is abating in China. Water is now clear in Venice canals. Nut, oh the economy. Wah.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/488278-coronavirus-offers-reprieve-from-air-pollution
I remember reading in a recent WUWT article that airlines used about 2% of fossil fuels. Now that the Gretas have gotten this present how be next week we give them another 3% drop in fossil fuel. Stop the internet and see the little kooks rejoice! Following week the coup de gras could be stopping the production of electricity from gas, coal and nuclear. They will be beside themselves with joy while they are either shivering or sweating depending where they live.
Indeed!
Investment opportunities like this happen only a few times in a modern lifetime. Cash is king.
I agree. Prepare to invest in any company that is well-leveraged with cash or liquid assets as soon as the stock markets start their recovery. I know a few…
If little Greta and her sycophants ever imposed something like the Green New Deal, the economies of most of the developed world (except for the worst emitters, China and India) would tank for a much longer time than this self-imposed quarantine. Waiting a year and a half for a COVID-19 vaccine would be bad, but waiting 30 or 50 years to see whether the climate got cooler would be disastrous.
Although the news media are not paying much attention, President Trump’s decision to fast-track approval of the use of chloroquine and/or hydroxychloroquine for use in treating COVID-19 patients could be a major breakthrough in beating back the epidemic. People who are on ventilators (or their loved ones) due to COVID-19 will probably immediately demand prescriptions for (hydroxy)chloroquine, since they really have nothing to lose, and if it is as effective on a massive scale as it was in the French study, it will go a long way toward changing attitudes toward the virus.
Instead of people trying to isolate themselves en masse from a relatively few carriers of the disease (even 10,000 patients out of a population of 330 million is still only 0.003%) and tanking the economy by 30% in three weeks, if there is really an effective cure, people with serious cases of COVID-19 can be given a prescription for (hydroxy)chloroquine, and released from hospital within a week or so, and the fear of this disease (and the fear of running out of ventilators or ICU beds) will decrease sharply, meaning life can get back to normal much sooner, even before a vaccine is developed.
As President Trump pointed out, this drug has been used for many decades against malaria (developed in 1944 and FDA-approved in 1949), so its dosages and possible side-effects are well-known and don’t need to be studied in depth.
We may not need to wait 18 months for a vaccine, if a cure can be made available in a few weeks! The President should use his “emergency” authority to order any existing manufacturers of chloroquine to produce millions of doses ASAP and make them available to doctors nationwide, particularly in the areas hardest hit by COVID-19.
Not only is chloroquine a treatment – it’s a preventative! People who live with malaria in the neighborhood can take it all the time with only minor consequences. With luck, that would work for the coronavirus-du-jour as well.
“Not only is chloroquine a treatment – it’s a preventative!”
Maybe. We’ll have to see how it does on a large group of people. That test is going on right now and we will have anecdotal evidence in the coming weeks.
I see where the one clinical test done on a small group of people were able to rid the patient of the Wuhan virus in about five days with a chloroquine/antibiotic combination.
Very encouraging. But as Dr. Fauci says, we don’t want to get ahead of ourselves. The good news is the doctors are leading this charge by prescribing their patients this medicine so we should be getting a lot of results back fairly soon, in a matter of weeks.
If chloroquine can provide a cure, then the world can go back to work.
There is also another anti-inflamatory drug I just heard about last night that seems to be having some positive effects on the Wuhan virus similar to how chloroquine is supposed to be able to reduce the overactive immune response of the body which is the real destructive force from the Wuhan virus. The body’s immune system overreacts to the infection and ends up destroying lung tissue.
We are getting a better handle on the Wuhan virus every day.
Not a word in two BBC articles about trump fast tracking chloroquine ,the second article is a disgrace much worse than any tabloid publication, the BBC relentless attack on trump
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51955450
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51818627
mic drop!
The time to ask Gretta if she is satisfied is about a month or two out. By then the Mauna Loa readings will show that the sharply reduced emissions from the silenced economy have not reduced the rate of CO2 growth in the atmosphere and she (they) will have to face the fact that we don’t control it and cannot change it. Will they then back off their demands? At least it should be obvious to all that will look at the numbers. February numbers are in and should reflect the Chinese shutdown but nothing is obvious.
You are nicely assuming that these people will respond rationally to evidence.
It was NEVER about evidence, … or truth for that matter.
It is about power. Wanted by revolutionaries. Totalitarians
What do we know about them ?
When they get it they whack a lot of people.
Most shot, the rest worked, starved, and frozen.
Including the silly people who believed and supported them.
One hundred million people minimum in the past 103 odd years.
No, she won’t – and neither will the committed ones.
But, when you run across a not completely around the bend Green, or Socialist – mention “March 2020, THAT is your Green paradise, THAT is your Socialist paradise.”
Interesting I thought I read that one of the data and modeling advisors of this was Gavin Schmidt of NASA
Guy walks in to a bar and asks, “You got Corona here?”
I don’t have a good punch line. Somebody help me.
The bartender answers
“Try next door at the China Shop”
The bartender answers
Where have you been? The Priest and the Rabbi got the last two Coronas, and ALL the toilet paper.
“Yes, we have got Gretas here, lime and salt served with, if you like”
🙂
Guy walks in to a bar and asks, “You got Corona here?”
Do you want that with Lyme?
“I don’t know, I’m just the bus boy”
“Ask the bartender, Pat Hogen.”
Anthony, how DARE you! (sarc)
What is happening because of covid-19 is what the much vaunted “green new deal” would look like if implemented.
The only bright note is everyone will get to see exactly what the Green New Deal looks like.
As a tool of the system, she is duly protected for phase 2.
What we should all ask western governments, is how come, despite all indications of a major situation in China, these governments never seriously reacted when it was time to react and authorized for so long dismal airport screening and little to no testing among the population afterward? How come the Macron and Trudeau strategies followed the precepts of Guy Verhofstadt, a Member of the European Parliament whose association with Soros Open borders, Open society, open virus for all, have kept European borders open till the last minute, so more potential infected people could fill it up? How come billions of dollars of debt is available when cheaper and more efficient measures would have allowed a better management of the crisis, its shortening and a restart?
Lagging behind South Korea in term of testing the general population (only one fifth on a per capita basis), Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer wants to flatten the curve, plank it she said with a wry smile on Thursday, meaning that the lock-down situation could last for weeks, even months as Trudeau hinted. The same experts, on February 8, were assuring CBC journalists that risk was low in Canada and politicians let thousands of planes land while passengers were given a pamphlet supposed to frighten the Covid-19 into submission, since Canadians are good guys right?
The Trudeau government has had a sad record of submitting to the green agenda of de-carbonizing the economy and thus willfully damaged Canadian economy through his sabotaging for $150 billion CAD of energy projects in the past years. Climate change was Trudeau’s main campaign axis, dutifully helped by the evergreen pliant CBC for months prior to the official campaign.
Macron too is in charge of bringing the submission of the French to this EU green agenda, as it was imposing a carbon tax that started the Yellow Vets movement.
These leaders have proven record showing their allegiance to external powers and Macron has been using infiltration of hard core leftist violent offenders followed by repression toward the others regular folks protesting to try curbing the revolt of the Yellow Vests for over a year.
The CBC has been astonishingly silent about these weekly demonstrations in 2019 and now, as if worried contagion could spread to Canada, given what the Trudeau team had in store for energy provinces… After ensuring immunity to fake charities helping stipend a few First Nation Elders, immunity to Americans leading blockades here in Canada instead of sending them packing, Trudeau was now facing the prospect of Wexit from Alberta, all this during China’s fight with Covid-19. That was until the virus entered the Canadian stage…
Now, Canadians have to shut up and love each other’s or rat on each other’s next, who knows, especially since we test so few…
Is it incompetence or willful destruction of the “old” economy by letting sanitary conditions deteriorate to the point of mandating curfew like confinement measures, massive layoffs in airline industry, tourism industry, oil & gas industry, food, sports, schools deferral etc… For months? Isn’t that what happens during a coup?
A tired populace, frightened to submission, whose personal net-worth (or what’s left of it after stock market collapse and negative interest rates) might next be appropriated to help redress the country, would be too weakened and bloodless to fight back Phase 2, that is the Green Coup d’Etat and the de-growth associated with it, the low universal revenue, communal housing and cannabis to make it bearable. Already, the culling of 60+ population would help facilitate indoctrination -hence preserving Greta for the next phase- without worrying of pesky experienced elders who would not fall for the cheap tricks.
Globalist UN affiliated forces have been preparing this takeover for years now. Is 2020 the year they decided to strike?
Agenda 21. That’s next year.
Greta and the warmistas answer, “Yes!”. This is exactly what they wanted, only more painful, more authoritarian, more mass suffering, more impoverishment, more death. Especially death. The New Left is a death cult. I refer to them as the Manson Family Party.
Witness the angry mob egged on by a US Senator calling for assassination of the Supreme Court because they might, possibly, somehow partially limit abortion. Witness the attempt to add more abortion to the Corona Virus Bill. They don’t care how many die of the “pandemic”. More is better. The 20,000 abortions per day worldwide dwarf the Corona deaths by 3 orders of magnitude. The Mansons are not upset by that; they are pleased, inspired, and celebrate it.
Make no mistake. The warmistas are anti-human being. They hate humanity. They wish to kill off as many people — the young, the old, the in-betweens — as they possibly can for any reason at any time.
Evil is not banal; it is fresh, imaginative, and seductive to the innocent. Yet the innocent are the principal victims. That is why our shared struggle against the New Left warmista Mansons is so vitally essential to all that is good and to the very survival of humanity.
She won’t give a #### Anthony. She’s an autistic child with little capacity to understand or embrace change generally, which means now that the world has been turned upside down due to the Wuhan Virus, she will either withdraw more into her isolated environment or become more fixated on inane problems that no-one cares about right now i.e global warming. Or and most likely not, begin to realise that bigger problems are at play right now and its best to shut up.
Either way, a pox on the parents and the hell spawns that encourage her behaviour in general.
Craig I think she’s surrounded by “handlers” 24-365 and isn’t really in charge of what she says or does. I’d postulate there’s one psychologically adept, and highly manipulative figure who’s the main puppet master.
Tack sa mycket, nu ar jag jatte glad
Nothing could make Greta happy. Some people are just born miserable and want to give meaning to their pointless existence by destroying/dragging everyone else down.It’s the same psychology that drives most terrorists. It’s not about supporting the cause, it’s the purpose and focus it gives their futile life/ego.
But even under a green new deal industry, jobs, restaurants, recreation, and schools are all open… there is transport and freedom to travel… all that would change would be airline travel declining slightly (with high speed trains replacing shorter flights). The UK reduced its CO2 output by 2018 42% on 1990 levels and shut all but 5 coal plants. Nobody even noticed.
She wont see it Anthony. All her “content” is screened, you can bet a $1 on that.