Claim: A 2017 Ice Locked Arctic Research Vessel was Evidence Scientists are Unprepared for Global Warming

Icebreaker CCGS Amundsen
Icebreaker CCGS Amundsen. By Tatiana PichuginaP1030361, CC BY 2.0, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to researchers Lauren Rickards and James E. M. Watson, scientific researchers are woefully unprepared for the climatic conditions they themselves have predicted.

Science Is Already Being Disrupted by Climate Change, And We’re Woefully Unprepared 


The climate crisis poses an escalating threat to scientists everywhere and research of all kinds, scientists in Australia are now warning.

“Academics have analysed the climate change preparedness of almost every sector,” the authors write

“Ironically, this does not include the research sector, about which very little is known when it comes to climate change, despite those involved having privileged access to climate change information.”

Still, perhaps the ultimate irony is when climate research is cancelled because of climate change. In 2017, for instance, a multi-year climate study had to be put on hold for a whole year due to extreme ice conditions on the water.

“Researchers are more accustomed to writing about climate change than adapting their work to it,” the authors acknowledge

“But as climate change impacts on the research sector become more evident, rapid adaptation is needed.”

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Click here to see WUWT’s 2017 coverage of the tragic case of Arctic scientists forced to abandon their expedition, when the global warming got too thick for their ice breaker.

Let us hope scientists researching global warming in the Arctic ice obtain a more powerful icebreaker, to avoid further disruption to their research.

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March 2, 2020 10:17 am

Getting colder so our models are junk. Please send more money!

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
March 2, 2020 10:50 am

Climate science goes full moron.

Climate researchers are more accustomed to believing their own BS and rigging data to fit their models than they are at actual observations.

When they go out to witness reality, with much public fanfare and “science communication” they are often in for rude surprise.

They should read WUWT and keep up to date !

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Greg
March 2, 2020 11:00 am

read WUWT, and perhaps try to read a bit of Taleb every now and then.

I mean, he’s not to all tastes, but “more ice” in the arctic isn’t exactly a Black Swan, is it?

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Caligula Jones
March 2, 2020 11:44 am

More importantly, those research scientists were so certain of their global warming models that THEY thought more ice was literally an unforeseeable Black Swan event.

That is a frightening lack skepticism for supposedly objective scientists.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
March 2, 2020 12:10 pm

To paraphrase an old technical help desk saying:

“There are only two kinds of models: those that have already been proven wrong, and those that haven’t had their output reviewed yet”.


“There are only two kinds of climate change peer-reviewed papers: those that have been retracted, and those that will”.*

* when science becomes science again that is. With the death of every Freeman Dyson, however, its unlikely any time soon. Maybe when Greta’s cohort grow old and realize the error of their ways (or at least enough of them so the cult fades – there will always be fanatics), we’ll get back to falsifying hypotheses.

Until then, we just measure Tha Feelz for clickbait.

Bryan A
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
March 2, 2020 12:19 pm

Just imagine the trouble they would be in if it weren’t for the #ClimateScienceFact that the ice up there is just a thin scrim of Crappy First Year Ice according to Models anyway

Richard of NZ
Reply to  Caligula Jones
March 2, 2020 9:21 pm

What is it about black swans and some people?

I was probably about 30 before I ever saw a white swan, up to that time the only swans I had seen were black ones except for those on film or television which I had no way of determining whether or not they were genuine.

I feel another expression for non-existent phenomena needs to be found.

Richard A. O'Keefe
Reply to  Richard of NZ
March 3, 2020 4:38 pm

Same here. I saw lots of swans growing up in NZ, all of them black. Black is the normal colour of swans. Seriously, once Cygnus atratus (Latham, 1790) was formally described, the statement “all swans are white” should have been retired to the dustbin of history. I have sometimes wondered if Popper’s remark that seeing a single black swan falsifies that universal had something to do with him living here in Otago for a time, where he must surely have seen one himself.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Richard A. O'Keefe
March 4, 2020 6:49 am

Um…the whole point is that one shouldn’t believe something to be true “all swans are white” if you don’t have all the evidence.

Forgive the Wiki:

“The black swan theory or theory of black swan events is a metaphor that describes an event that comes as a surprise, has a major effect, and is often inappropriately rationalized after the fact with the benefit of hindsight. The term is based on an ancient saying that presumed black swans did not exist – a saying that became reinterpreted to teach a different lesson after black swans were discovered in the wild.”

In other words: a tornado hits (surprise), has a major effect (multiple deaths, huge devastation) and is inappropriately rationalized (ITS CLIMATE CHANGE!!!).

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Greg
March 2, 2020 12:42 pm

Remind me: didn’t we have a very similar story from just last fall when some idiots tried to do something similar and got caught when arctic winter decided reality and modeled output were somewhat different, not to mention colder?

I seem to recall that one of the afflicted geniuses was a “special ops” dude, and while I normally respect the dedication and service of such folks, couldn’t get over the fact that there was a pic of said super-warrior using a secret ninja trick of using his hi-tech ice-axe to cut some ice…

Reply to  Caligula Jones
March 2, 2020 6:34 pm

Then there was the time back in 2015 when an assortment of us were labeled as murderers of two Arctic explorers who apparently actually lost their lives because they thought the weather there presented little danger. If anybody has blood on their hands for the loss of those two, it’s the collective AGW movement who portrays the Arctic as a place where you can keep your shirtsleeves rolled up all the time now.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Russell Cook
March 9, 2020 7:10 pm

Wow, not only is the article writer foaming at the mouth, the commenters who agree are complete whackos.

Greg Woods
Reply to  Greg
March 2, 2020 12:47 pm

This is what occurs when Belief-Driven computer models are used….

Ron Long
Reply to  Greg
March 2, 2020 1:54 pm

Let them have it, Greg! I ran a research effort for one of the world’s billionaire families, adapting satellite data to mining exploration, and every other week I held the “Reality Check Friday” review meeting. The review was not only are we putting something together that improves our exploration advantage, but is it also a cost advantage. The idiots cited above, from the ship of fools, aren’t doing any of that kind of review, they just get research money and take off in some direction.

James Poulos
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
March 2, 2020 11:18 am

Climate failed to match our data stop
Nil climate change sighted stop
Sank same stop

Curious George
Reply to  James Poulos
March 2, 2020 11:49 am

“Let us hope scientists researching global warming in the Arctic ice obtain a more powerful icebreaker, to avoid further disruption to their research.”

They’ll try to obtain a faster warming planet instead. They just keep trying.

mel mckieve
Reply to  Curious George
March 3, 2020 9:39 am

The arctic was supposed to be free of ice by 2013.The global warming crowd still think it will happen.The Canadian government wants to spend billions of dollars on 6 new icebreakers.Go figure??

Caligula Jones
Reply to  mel mckieve
March 4, 2020 9:38 am

Well, Prime Minstrel Zoolander is taking the savings from NOT spending billions dredging the Great Lakes because of LOW water levels and putting it into PROMISING ice breakers…which knowing this government in particular, will take decades to plan and procure THEN the contract will go to a Liberal-connected company THEN it will deliver half the number as promised THEN will get the contract to fix those ones…

THEN we all drown anyway.

Komrade Kuma
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
March 2, 2020 2:10 pm

No, no, no !

These people are heroes putting their lives on the line in the name of Climatology. Not only should they receive increased funding for their brave and courageous work, they should have bigger and better ships with bigger and better accomodation, air support and transporter technology to get them the hell out of there if the evil ice ever closes in on them again.

These people should be honoured with baravery awards and a full military parade !


Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
March 2, 2020 8:23 pm

With much more money top brains tried to model the world economy: then 2007 happened.

Exercises in futility.

David A
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
March 3, 2020 7:31 pm

Well you should send them no money. They have “privileged information”!
( Insufferable)

March 2, 2020 10:18 am

“Ironically, this does not include the research sector, about which very little is known when it comes to climate change, despite those involved having privileged access to climate change information.”

The researchers have “privileged access to climate change information”? Why is the privileged information privileged and not public?

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
March 2, 2020 10:38 am

It is not “White Privilege” and it is not “Male Privilege”, it is “Climate Privilege” and you do not have it.
{Neither do I, even though I help pay for all this}
Good to see you still check in from time to time.

Bob Smith
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
March 2, 2020 10:46 am

Excellent point. Idea is so obvious. I’m somewhat surprised the article’s author doesn’t recognize and either hide or address the issue. Also, doesn’t he realize how foolish he makes these “climate change” scientist appear?

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
March 2, 2020 10:58 am

Is that a serious question?

You know this Bob, but for those here who may not,

From Dr. Pat Michaels writing at the Cato Institute in 2010:

“Here’s what CRU director Phil Jones wrote to Australian scientist Warrick Hughes in February 2005: “We have 25 years or so invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it[?]

Privileged climate change information is a central part of the scam and running a gaslighting campaign against the public. Telling half truths, omitting key information, and not reporting on inconvenient data is cherry picking not just by climate scientists, but the media “journalists” that reports on this area.

It goes to the EPA battle to halt “secret science” and the flack the Trump Administration is getting back from the (big S) Science establishment that has built much of the Endangerment finding on secret science of half truths that look at costs without any consideration of benefits, like the Social Cost of Carbon scam.
As a retired AF navigator-electronic warfare officer it helps to remember the time-tested, WW2 bomber crew observation, “The closer you get to critical targets the more the AAA fire increases, and when the you’re over the enemy’s most important targets, that’s when the incoming fire is most intense.”

Skeptics investigating critical “privileged access” climate information will most assuredly receive the most intense incoming fire from the climate scammers and the very deep money interests that support them.

Hidden data and obscure methods, as such “privileged information,” will have to become an bigger part of the pseudoscience climate scamster’s tool kit in the coming years as the real warming will continue not keep up with the junk GCM outputs and things like Arctic Sea ice will likely be on an upward trend for the next 20 years.

I’ll just note, have you heard anything in the media about the ideal sledding conditions this year in Alaska for the upcoming Iditarod?

Only if you’re a local up there do you probably know this about this year’s Iditarod conditions. The story doesn’t play to climate alarmist narrative, so certainly CNN or NYT won’t cover that this year, like they did last year this time.

Privileged access – letting the gas-lighting of the public continue.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 12:37 pm

Same thing here in Toronto regarding the water level of the Great Lakes:

1) when there is less spring run off, they trot out a climate model that says this is the “new normal” and we have to spend billions of dollars in dredging channels and helping the ‘poor’ boating industry. Headlines.

2) when there is more spring run off, they trot out a climate model that says this is the “new normal” and we have to spend billions of dollars to prevent floods, particularly for our “Toronto Islands”, which are inhabited by aging hippies who were gifted the land by our socialist government at the time. Headlines.

3) when the water level is absolutely normal (most years)…crickets…

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Caligula Jones
March 2, 2020 2:30 pm

Privileged climate data and information is anything which does not fit the alarmist narrative.

Andy Mansell
Reply to  Caligula Jones
March 2, 2020 10:19 pm

Same here in the UK- a few years ago we were told winters would be drier and we’d need to manage our water carefully, then we get flooded and now it’s ‘Well, we told you this would happen’…they just never admit they got it wrong.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Andy Mansell
March 3, 2020 6:54 am

A partial list of experts who can maintain a decent living at continually being wrong in the modern over-saturated media bubble:

1) political pundits, especially pollsters who can be wrong 9 times out of 10 within a 50% margin of error
2) sports pundits “if Team A scores more than Team B they’ll probably win”
3) economists “…on the other hand…”
4) psychics, seers and mediums “I see an H, does an H mean anything to you?”
5) climate scientists “our 100 years of data is really 40 years of good data, and that only covers some of the planet, but we’ll extrapolate for the full planet, plug it into a model we know is hot, publish the worst case scenario, allow the media to hype that even more, and when we’re 100% wrong, smear whoever pointed this out as a non-expert, and if they are experts and can show that they said we’d be wrong, we’ll point out they gave a speech once to a business group that has an oil company as a dues paying member”.

At least the psychics have some entertainment value…

Norma Snockers
Reply to  Andy Mansell
March 4, 2020 7:50 am

You’re not wrong Andy, in 2012 Met Office said we’re having drier winters due to loss of sea ice.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 3:32 pm

Joel, that whole ‘secret science’ privilege thing, is that how Michael Mann got off, not only scot free but continuing to promote his hockey stick as though it’s a real thing?

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Megs
March 2, 2020 6:34 pm

Check with the experts who showed the Mann Hockey Stick was a fraud, Ross McKitrick or Steve McIntyre on that subject.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 9:29 pm

Thanks Joel. I found a WUWT post from April 2018 covering this issue.

It wasn’t so much about secret science, more about lies, lies and damn lies.

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
March 2, 2020 11:23 am

“Privileged” because they get first in line to screen what is safe to release, what is too inconvenient and must be suppressed, and what could use a bit of tweaking to fit the party line.

Len Werner
March 2, 2020 10:30 am

Is there some hidden magic in Australia that gives academics with no relevant science training or experience to self-identify as experts on climate science?

‘Lauren Rickards

Lauren Rickards is a co-leader of the Climate Change and Resilience research program of the Centre for Urban Research, and Senior Lecturer in the School of Global, Urban and Social Studies, at RMIT.

D.Phil., School of Geography and Environment, University of Oxford
M.Sc. (Environmental Change and Management), Environmental Change Institute, University of Oxford
B.Sc. (Hons), School of Geography, University of Melbourne

James E M Watson

James Watson is a Professor of Conservation Science at The University of Queensland and Director of the Centre for Biodiversity and Conservation Science at The University of Queensland. He leads the Green Fire Science research group (, whose mission is to do applied research that is linked directly to the practice of conservation, and he is the Director of the Wildlife Conservation Society’s Science and Research Initiative. As a Rhodes Scholar, James undertook his PhD research studying in Madagascar, trying to come up with conservation plans to save endemic bird species inhabiting the country’s remaining littoral forest. Since then he has published more than 200 peer-reviewed papers on conservation related matters.


Doctor of Philosophy, Oxford.’

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Len Werner
March 2, 2020 10:58 am

Ah, the “Gold Star” generation writ large.

In other words, the recipients of several generations of grade inflation, combined with a growing gap between those with basic math skills, and those with none.

In this case, those with none can now, apparently, received multiple “degrees” which, while sounding sciencey, aren’t worth the (no doubt recycled 10 times over) paper on which they are written.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Len Werner
March 2, 2020 11:57 am

Climatology and meteorology have tradiationally been branches of physical geography, taught for some odd reason at the humanities department at Universities.
That recently changed, but they are still part of physical geography.

“physical geography

the branch of geography concerned with natural features and phenomena of the earth’s surface, as landforms, drainage features, climates, soils, and vegetation.”

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
March 3, 2020 2:22 am

Now that it seems one can legally self-identity as male or female, I am not surprised that it is possible to self-identity as a climate scientist, or anything else for that matter.

Reply to  Len Werner
March 2, 2020 12:18 pm

Well, today, if your name is James Watson, you’ve got to be prepared to make some pretty big claim to get noticed in Science. 🙂
Poor chap probably has lot to put up with every day.

[Almost irrelevant side story: I once worked in a Department headed by someone called Barry Potter. Before I first spoke to him I told myself several times, “It’s Barry, not Harry. It’s Barry, not Harry. It’s Barry, not Harry….Then called him Harry Potter to his face. Nice chap, though. Didn’t take offence.]

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  michael hart
March 9, 2020 6:56 pm

My dad is into gardening and pottery. His name is Harry.

Fred Streeter
Reply to  Len Werner
March 2, 2020 12:40 pm

Lauren Rickards.

PhD, oops, Doctor of Philosophy (it’s Oxford): School of Geography and Environment, University of Oxford
M.Sc. (Environmental Change and Management): Environmental Change Institute, University of Oxford

I would imagine she is pretty well qualified in the findings and predictions of accepted Climate Science, and their application.

Likewise James E M Watson, PhD, after all, you have to know what you are saving the species from.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Fred Streeter
March 2, 2020 3:11 pm

“accepted Climate Science”

That, is the problem.

Reply to  Len Werner
March 3, 2020 1:59 am

Now that it seems one can legally self-identity as male or female, I am not surprised that it is possible to self-identity as a climate scientist, or anything else for that matter.

Jeff Alberts
March 2, 2020 10:37 am

Ice that was too thick is climate change???

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
March 2, 2020 10:55 am

He seems to miss the “irony” is that the “climate change” is the opposite of what the researchers were expecting. But reporting black is white is fine as long it’s for the cause.

Reminds me of Prof. Chris(mas) Turkey and his ship of fools’ ill-fated attempt to witness the disappearing sea ice in Antarctica.

Reply to  Greg
March 3, 2020 7:49 am

I tried to look up irony in the dictionary only to discover that someone had torn the page out.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
March 2, 2020 3:28 pm

Yes, it is CC, when pack ice thicken to 20 m, as the Polar Stern team found out, and the ice breaker had to deal with

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
March 3, 2020 4:03 am

Ice that is too thin is climate change too.

March 2, 2020 10:56 am

Here we have the case of pseudoscience lemons turned into pseudoscience lemonade, or at least a lame attempt at it.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  ResourceGuy
March 2, 2020 11:00 am

Fortunately for the Truth, the US Democrats have consistently demonstrated they could NOT even run a lemonade stand, much less a state-level caucus or build a functioning website, and they want to run the country.

Steve Z
March 2, 2020 10:58 am

Some of these “researchers” are used to sailing into the Arctic watching some of the ice melt in the middle of summer under the midnight sun. Have they ever stopped to think of what happens when there’s no sun at all for four straight months?

March 2, 2020 10:59 am

Those climate clowns have a hammer in place of the brain and therefore they see climate nails everywhere.

March 2, 2020 11:09 am

Same with the Polarstern in Artic ice
Two weeks ago, the claimed they are waiting for rain, bn’caus the Arctic is the most warming area on earth.
Warmest temperature they measured was -12°C on one day in December,
now, with windchill -58°C – thick ice the icebraker for the exchange of personal and new food had problems to come near and will be out of fuel on the way back and need a second icebraker with fuel… 😀

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 2, 2020 12:04 pm

I’ve been looking at Mosaic website and Polar Stern blogs and reports this AM, trying to get caught up, but the report for they last few weeks are not there. I know from the anecdotal reports that’s its been colder that they anticipated. Daylight has returned now to their reported location, so I’m also looking for any daylight pictures they might have from their drones they can send up of the sea ice around them.

Do you have a web address of current Polar Stern status and their fuel situation?

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 1:05 pm
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 1:51 pm

Temperature record every hour from Polarstern plus wind speed in m/sec and direction.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 2, 2020 12:18 pm

I found this Instagram update from 27 February 2020,
“Yesterday morning we had flight weather conditions and took the chance to fly over to Kapitan Dranitsyn as she was less than 50 miles away. Our helicopter picked up the chief scientist of leg 3 Torsten Kanzow and nautical officer Igor Hering. They are replacing our leg 2 co-chief scientist Benjamin Rabe and nautical officer Lutz Peine now. Unfortunately, visibility decreased after that flight and we had to cancel the exchange of additional people to allow them to prepare their measurements. But in the meantime, Kapitan Dranitsyn makes good progress towards the Polarstern and was only twelve miles away this morning. We hope that they will arrive at their designated mooring position one kilometer east of the Polarstern by tomorrow and allow us to start the cargo operations and handover.”


Yesterday would have been 26 February. The Russian icebreaker Kapitan Dranitsyn at 1 kilometer away would be able to transfer cargo and people, but not any fuel transfer at that distance. So I’m curious what the Polar Stern’s fuel concerns might be?

And there is this Instagram post from earlier this morning (2 March 2020)
“After the Kapitan #Dranitsyn has dropped anchor on Friday, the handover is in full swing on the #MOSAiC floe. The exchange of staff and equipment is taking place on foot, with snowmobiles and with snowcats hauling heavily laden sledges. On board #Polarstern and in the Ice Camp, the new expedition members are being instructed on various tasks by their predecessors. It’s still too soon to say how long the transfer of crew and equipment will take to complete, partly because the two ships’ cranes only work very slowly in the frigid conditions. The extreme temperatures also pose a problem when it comes to transferring provisions; for example, fresh produce has to be transported in heated containers.


My bold. Interesting.
I wonder how they are heating those containers? Fossil fuel-run heaters no doubt.

And there is light on the horizon for the Polar Stern. See the cool photo (Instagram link below) of the orange sky horizon at that Latitude.
There is #light! Together with the Kapitan Dranitsyn the twilight has come to our ice floe. Since two weeks we experienced so-called nautical twilight, and on today’s Sunday there is the onset of civil twilight, when the sun is less than six degrees below the horizon. In civil twilight it is possible to read outside, and to properly see the surface of the snow and ice. This light really makes a difference: We can now see the horizon, which appears surprisingly high. Previously our sights were limited to the Polarstern’s searchlights and the spotlights we had installed on the ice, illuminating only a few hundred meters around the vessel. Now our world has become really big – and our little MOSAiC floe seems to have shrunk to a small spot in the ice universe.”

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 12:37 pm

I wonder who pays for those very expensive and completely useless tourists.

Reply to  Petit_Barde
March 2, 2020 1:06 pm

The taxpayer, who else ?

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Petit_Barde
March 2, 2020 2:46 pm

au contraire petite bard,

If these “tourists” realize and then write about how extreme this year in the Arctic and its thick the ice is, that will have an impact, unless it is hidden away as “privileged climate” data.

Plus there is lots of good science going on the biology side with the under ice research. Collecting krill and plankton samples at many different depths, observing cod swimming under the ice… all good stuff.

Of course all of it is possible because they are burning copious amounts of fuel every 24 hrs to make it happen, and each of them still have warm shower and cozy bed every “night.” Plus they enjoy 3 hot galley meals plus an afternoon tea-time with cakes and cookies.
Thank you fossil fuels.

Reply to  Petit_Barde
March 2, 2020 3:24 pm

btw, 140 Mio € budget…

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 1:08 pm

btw, on march 2, seaice-extend 15.037 Mio km²

nw sage
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 2, 2020 6:45 pm

Where are those darn polar bears when you need them. They could be feasting on some nice fat ‘Climate Scientists’.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  nw sage
March 2, 2020 7:51 pm

They have two-man polar bear watch teams with every person/group off ship. The polar bear watch is armed with flares, noise makers, and also high caliber rifles in case the non-lethal stuff doesn’t work.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 2, 2020 3:13 pm

“Warmest temperature they measured was -12°C on one day in December,
now, with windchill -58°C – thick ice”

Wind chill has nothing to do with ice. Its only indicative of how the air feels on human skin.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
March 2, 2020 3:44 pm

it was an additonal statement if you will look the way I wrote that – separated by hyphen.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 9, 2020 6:53 pm

I know, but it didn’t, and doesn’t, seem relevant.

Major Meteor
March 2, 2020 11:17 am

It sure looks like the researchers are climate deniers.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Major Meteor
March 2, 2020 12:04 pm

“It sure looks like the researchers are climate deniers.”

I’ve always said that the alarmists are the true deniers, as they cherry-pick the data (or more likely, truly do believe that climate began sometime between the invention of colour television and Twitter.

Ben Vorlich
March 2, 2020 11:23 am

Six New Icebreakers to be Built for Canadian Coast Guard

Hope these are up to the job of coping with Climate Change Arctic Ice conditions

Bryan A
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
March 2, 2020 12:28 pm

I hope they’re

Smart Rock
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
March 2, 2020 5:56 pm

Six new Canadian icebreakers to be built some time in the next 50 years (hint – they are proceeding slowly in the expectation that all the ice will soon be gone – the science on that is settled, right? – so they can spend the money on something really worthwhile, like buying pipelines so they can shut them down).

Not one of them will be a match for the Russian nuclear-powered icebreakers.

This for a country that has more Arctic than any other.

Joe in Wyo
March 2, 2020 11:27 am

I’ve been following the ship that was purposefully ice-locked near the North Pole.
The ship is the Polarstern and I think the ice breaker has finally gotten close enough to transfer supplies and new crew members. They post some interesting info plus some good photos.
I’ll attach the link if anyone wants to check the weather and ships position….

Abolition Man
March 2, 2020 11:32 am

The stupid is strong in these ones! So climate scientists are “woefully unprepared” for climate change? The authors failed to mention the two most likely culprits; either their “magic CO2” theory is flawed or their computer models are not based on real conditions. Personally I vote for both!
They are obviously not aware of the Al Gore Effect where any CAGW Hoax charlatan who tries make pronouncements of their infallibility is highly likely to suffer inclement weather. Didn’t St. Greta the Panopticon have to bundle up due to cold weather recently while she screeched about the earth burning up? God seems to have a wonderful sense of humor or irony at times!

Reply to  Abolition Man
March 3, 2020 1:31 am

What’s that black fringe around the top of the funnel ? Surely they should prove their cultism by using a sailing ship.

Nicholas McGinley
March 2, 2020 11:50 am

Is this from the “So wrong, we are right” files?

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
March 2, 2020 12:20 pm


March 2, 2020 12:15 pm

…an escalating threat to scientists everywhere and research of all kinds…

Wow, every scientist everywhere? Not just the 97% anymore?


Chris Hanley
March 2, 2020 12:24 pm

“… Still, perhaps the ultimate irony is when climate research is cancelled because of climate change. In 2017, for instance, a multi-year climate study had to be put on hold for a whole year due to extreme ice conditions on the water …”.

This is an example of the intentional ambiguity created by the use of the term ‘climate change’ as simultaneously referring to the effects of all climate factors as opposed to the assumed effects of human emissions exclusively.
The irony is that the researchers have been caught out by the natural factors that they have, in effect, eliminated from their research.

Tom Abbott
March 2, 2020 12:29 pm

From the article: “But as climate change impacts on the research sector become more evident, rapid adaptation is needed.”

When will [human-caused] climate change become evident? It has to become evident *before* it can become *more* evident. The facts are there is no evidence of human-caused climate change or of any impacts of such. You are putting the cart before the horse. You are assuming things not in evidence.

Here is a basic requirement for all good scientists: DON’T assume things not in evidence.

March 2, 2020 12:48 pm

This is all part of climate change magic. What’s up is down, black is white, hot is cold etc. Getting stuck in ice after claiming the ice is thinning and disappearing shows global warming is assuming peak gullibility. Can people really be that stupid! Unfortunately the answer is yes. In the same way the BOM has today claimed this summer as the second hottest ever for Australia and even though Melbourne is only one part of Australia I can assure you it was the coldest summer I can remember in the last thirty years. There is no way the temperatures in Melbourne were above average as claimed with February in particular having most days in the low 20s and below. Even the bushfire month starting late December was relatively moderate. I think the BOM emboldened by the lack of scrutiny by the government has now gone full time activist and is central to the climate change indoctrination effort not just here but globally. I’m waiting for the updated version of adjusted data which will no doubt turn the Aussie temperatures into full hockeystick . This genie is well and truly out of the bottle and without any effort from government difficult if not impossible to put back.

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  Zigmaster
March 2, 2020 2:55 pm

Melbourne February 2020.
I looked at a dozen weather stations for BOM online maximum temperatures.
Eleven of 12 stations had Tmax more than 1 deg C cooler than long term Feb average, many around -1.7C difference. The other was -0.8 deg.
So yes, like you, I would call this the coldest Feb I can recall in the last 30 years for where we live, Melbourne, and a possibility of a record cold for the state of Victoria. But this is just weather being weather.
One matter to keep in mind with BOM national claims is that they might be using ACORN-SAT adjusted data from their selected 110 or so stations. But, they have been adding very hot stations like Rabbit Flat and dropping very cold ones like Charlotte Pass in the Alps, once used for their adjustments. This has the predictable outcome of seeming to show increased warming. Geoff S

March 2, 2020 12:49 pm

Yeah, “climate scientists” might get eaten by polar bears!

That would be poetic justice!

Reply to  RockyRoad
March 2, 2020 2:03 pm

A ‘Bye-Ku’?

Gary Pearse
March 2, 2020 1:02 pm

They took such a hit of ridicule on that 2017 voyage to monitor climate change in the Arctic. Like the “Ship of Fools”on Australia’s Turney’s voyage to Antarctica, they had to be rescued from thick solid ice and bitter cold. This article is the most dishonest kind of spin. Wanting to exonerate truly idiotic reasearch follies. This, to me is a ‘tell’ that another “Ship of Fools” journey is in the making with Germany’s Polarstern that seems to be in some trouble which I remember predicting when it weighed anchor.

It was preceeded in September by Russia’s largest(?) nuclear icebreaker with a load of passengers who paid $120k each for a trip to the N Pole. When they hit the ice pack near Svalbard it was 3m and more thick and solid all the way. The journey had to be extended a few days because the ship had t0 back up many times to take a run at the ice.

Yeah, they arent prepared for climate change opposite to what the think! No one is going to give the real reason.

March 2, 2020 1:03 pm

Canada’s kids indoctrination knows no bounds, with Bill Nye and Bob McDonald a CBC science “reporter”… i.e. an activist.

Students from 64 Manitoba schools will join CBC national science journalist Bob McDonald and CBC Manitoba meteorologist John Sauder for a mass youth event about climate change Tuesday at the Canadian Museum for Human Rights (CMHR).
The event – originally planned with American celebrity science educator Bill Nye “the Science Guy” as keynote speaker – was revised Friday after unforeseen circumstances interrupted Nye’s travel plans to Winnipeg. Nye will still speak at a sold-out event on Tuesday evening at Winnipeg’s Burton Cummings Theatre.
Under a unique challenge called “Take 3 for Climate Justice,” student teams were invited to create three-minute videos about climate action. Students who submitted videos are now eligible to participate in the exclusive, day-long event on Tuesday, with workshops, activities and presentations happening throughout the Museum about climate change and its impact on human rights. The event, led and facilitated by students, was organized in partnership with CBC Manitoba, the Canadian Commission for UNESCO, and Manitoba Education.

The CBC is full partner in this, demonstrating the network has abdicated any sense of critical thinking. That is Canadian taxes are being used to sponsor this activist fair. Human Rights is the pretext.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  TomRude
March 2, 2020 1:33 pm

My word, grift upon grift upon grift (NOT Griff…grifT).

Seriously, such an event is bad enough, bordering on child abuse.

THEN you add a self-parodying non-scientist like Nye (I mean, we could find a dozen or so famous CANADIAN non-scientific experts on “climate change”).

THEN you add the CBC…

and to top it all off, you hold it at one of the greatest grifts EVAH:

Reply to  Caligula Jones
March 2, 2020 2:04 pm

They are creating a generation of little green guards… And we know very well how this kind of stuff ends.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  TomRude
March 2, 2020 2:09 pm

Well, I’m not joking when I predict some idiot is going to make a spectacular corpse ala one of those Buddhists who burned themselves in Viet Nam…

But they’re probably trying to find a way to use a green fuel…so maybe standing under a huge magnifying glass or something…

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  TomRude
March 2, 2020 8:05 pm

Brainwashing by the non experts.

John in Oz
March 2, 2020 1:50 pm

As usual, the climate ‘scientists’ do not look beyond their own experiences.

If they get stuck in the ice and it has never happened (to them) before, then it must be climate change.

I was on the Australian Navy ship HMAS Stalwart in 1985 when we had an emergency order to leave Manila in the Philippines, pick up 200 tonnes of stores in Hobart Tasmania then travel to Macquarie Island because the normal supply ship, the Nella Dan, was stuck in the Antarctic ice and the scientists on the island required re-supply.

March 2, 2020 1:51 pm

Oh for Pete’s sake! Look up the word “science” in the dictionary. “Science” cannot be “disrupted.”

March 2, 2020 1:52 pm

Headline: Ivory tower dwellers unprepared for weather.

March 2, 2020 1:57 pm

Sell your beach hut while it’s still there.
“Climate change and sea level rise are currently on track to wipe out half the world’s sandy beaches by 2100, researchers warned Monday.”

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Vuk
March 2, 2020 2:07 pm

Nah, I’ll wait for the firesale prices that the geniusus such as Gore and Suzuki will be selling at…any time now, I’m sure.

Lets walk through the old “how many weasel words between the click bait headline and the actual science”:

1) Half of world’s beaches could vanish by 2100
2) more than a third of the planet’s sandy shorelines could disappear
3) Australia could be hit hardest
4) new construction, sea level rise, storm surge from hurricanes or typhoons, and reduced sediment from dammed rivers are all eroding these shorelines
5) satellite imagery dating back to 1984
6) they projected future erosion under two climate change scenarios. The “worst case” RCP8.5 pathway
7) The increasingly likely RCP4.5 outlook
8) (IPCC), projected in a major report last September a sea level rise
9) predicted in peer-reviewed work


Bloody shameful, but we know that…

Reply to  Vuk
March 2, 2020 3:33 pm

Who is interested in beaches 2100 when we all will die in 12 years ?

March 2, 2020 2:10 pm

The climate crisis poses an escalating threat to scientists everywhere and research of all kinds, scientists in Australia are now warning.

“Academics have analysed the climate change preparedness of almost every sector,” the authors write.
“Ironically, this does not include the research sector, about which very little is known when it comes to climate change, despite those involved having privileged access to climate change information.”

What I want to know:
Was this an assignment? i.e. write an article praising the fools while forgiving them for being mental fools?
Was this a roving author desperately seeking a payment for their ginned up sophistry and logical fallacies?

March 2, 2020 2:22 pm

Check out the top of the funnel and the top section of the aft mast on the Canadian Coast Guard Ship in the picture at the top of the page. Is the Canadian Coast Guard rolling coal or what?

Ed Zuiderwijk
March 2, 2020 2:30 pm

Somebody should some day try to explain the concept of irony to the authors.

Master of the Obvious
March 2, 2020 2:36 pm

It was clearly a navigation error.

Instead of entering 13N, 60W they entered 73N 60W resulting in the solidified water hazards to navigation. We blame AGW for everything else, why not fat-fingering the satnav input?

The former location would have yielded clear sailing the the elevated temperatures that were sought.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Master of the Obvious
March 2, 2020 7:59 pm

13N, 60W…. between St Vincent / Grenadines and Barbados… I’ll take that.

March 2, 2020 3:16 pm

Nick Stokes, we need you to provide the links to explain this.

Ian Coleman
March 2, 2020 3:38 pm

We have told you people and told you people: Weather and climate are not the same things. Anomalies encountered in real time do not obviate the overall trend. This is the warmest year on record. This is the warmest March on record. This is the warmest Monday on record. Now shut up. Shut up right now, and go buy an electric car. We’re getting tired of telling you this.

And you people who stole Greta Thunberg’s childhood: Put it back.

March 2, 2020 5:39 pm

I’m off to the beach in Oz while I still can-
Children are not going to know what Surf Lifesavers look like.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
March 2, 2020 5:50 pm

Let us hope scientists researching global warming in the Arctic ice obtain a more powerful icebreaker, to avoid further disruption to their research.

Well they won’t get one from the US; we only have one “heavy” (Polar Star) and one “medium” (Healy) ice breaker left in commission (Polar Sea is now a parts donor for Polar Star). There is supposedly and RFP for at least two new heavy icebreakers — see here (from 2017; not sure this is still active).

Even after a 2012 $62 million refit, the Polar Star had significant difficulties performing mission duties in 2018. See here.

They won’t get one from Russia either as their nuclear icebreakers can’t cross tropical seas as the warmer water won’t cool their reactors sufficiently.

I’m not sure who that leaves with heavy icebreakers. The new Australian ship RSV Nuyina appears to have similar capabilities as the Polar Star and is supposed to enter service this year (2020), but it appears to have been designed primary as a research vessel rather than a working icebreaker:

The vessel will be able to sustain multidisciplinary and concurrent science operations, and support numerous sample and data collection systems, including for sea-floor, sea-ice, sea life and atmospheric research. It will have the capability to deploy, operate and with location precision recover a range of equipment and instruments in a range of conditions …

Details on the Nuyina are here.

My take is if the predicted sea ice reduction does not take place the world short of capable icebreakers, especially for the Antartic. Something to think about when people plan adventure cruises to study the “warming” polar seas.

Gerald Machnee
March 2, 2020 8:15 pm

Yes, that was David Barber from the U of Manitoba who tried to blame global Warming for the thick ice.
Dr. Susan Crockford took him to task for his BS:

Part of her post:
Bottom line: I can only conclude that climate change researcher David Barber was grandstanding today when he told the media that global warming is to blame for Newfoundland’s record thick sea ice conditions this year. I suspect that because Barber’s expensive research expedition was scuttled, he simply had to find a way to garner media attention for his project — and the media obliged. Read to the end and decide for yourself.

Radio station CJOB in Winnipeg interviewed him. What a joke that was.

March 2, 2020 10:30 pm

To summarize:

“It was the opposite of what we expected – it must be because of ‘climate change'”

Cue Luke Wilson

March 2, 2020 10:48 pm

Mosaic is a project currently going on in the Arctic. They have problem with thick ice.
But they , and the ice cover, also drift south in a speed not anticipated.
They are two months ahead of schedule.

mark fraser
March 2, 2020 11:39 pm

A presentation by a pioneer Polar Navigation professoinal last week included descriptions of the very rapid decline in arctic ice, but also the fact that it is unlikely to open up “The Northwest Passage” within our lifetimes, as it forms very quickly, moves rapidly, and is still dangerous to the many “Adventurers” on missions. I’m a confirmed skeptic but not blind- I’ll take his words at face value (except for hte part that it’s all my fault). He and his firm have been patrolling, researching (and rescuing) in Canada’s arctic for decades, and are alarmed at the number of headline and fame-seekers who head there without icebreaker support and ice-certified craft.

March 3, 2020 12:12 am

And they are still claiming ice-free summers coming soon…..


March 3, 2020 12:56 am

A 2017 research vessel fooling around in the Arctic?!
What about the present 2020 Polarstern vessel, which can’t be reached for a crew change because the Russian icebreaker on its way to pick them up is not able to get through the thick ice?!

Every year, a new ship of fools!


Rudolph Hucker
March 3, 2020 2:56 pm

The men from the PRU (Prats R Us) are at it again!

mr bliss
March 4, 2020 2:44 am

Isn’t there a ship that has allowed itself to become trapped in the Arctic sea, so that it can study the environment over a year or more? Any news on how it is doing?

March 4, 2020 4:43 pm

Nothing says, “unprecedented warming” like extreme ice conditions.

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