
Note from Anthony: Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. writes this morning to say that he has been “locked out of Twitter” is response to calling out Dana Nuccitelli and John Cook of the dishonestly named “Skeptical Science” website over claims that Dr. Judith Curry has should be “unhirable” due to her views on climate science. The SkS kidz don’t like Dr. Curry and her reasonable voice. His essay below explains why and illustrates how childish this is.
A Climate Blacklist That Works: “It Should Make Her Unhirable In Academia”
Guest essay by Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.
(Reposted from Forbes at WUWT by request.)
A climate advocacy group called Skeptical Science, hosts a list of academics that it has labeled “climate misinformers.” The list includes 17 academics and is intended as a blacklist. We know of this intent because one of the principals of Skeptical Science, a blogger named Dana Nuccitelli, said so last Friday, writing of one academic on their list, “if you look at the statements we cataloged and debunked on her [Skeptical Science] page, it should make her unhirable in academia.”
That so-called “unhirable” academic is Professor Judy Curry, formerly the chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at Georgia Tech, and a Fellow of both the American Geophysical Union and American Meteorological Society. By any conventional academic metric, Curry has compiled an impressive record over many decades. The idea that she would be unhirable would seem laughable.
But there is nothing funny about Skeptical Science. Today, Curry should be a senior statesperson in the atmospheric sciences community. Instead, she is out of academia. She attributes that, at least in part, to being placed on the Skeptical Science blacklist and its use, as expressed by Nuccitelli, to make her “unhirable.”Today In: Business
I asked Professor Curry about this situation. She explained, “In 2012 I was informed by my Dean that the administration wanted me to step down as Chair. While there were several reasons for this, one obvious reason was extreme displeasure by several activist climate scientists who had a very direct pipeline to the Dean.”
So Curry stepped down and started looking for administrative positions at other universities, “At the time, I was getting numerous inquiries from academic headhunters encouraging me to apply for major administration positions, ranging from Dean to Vice Chancellor for Research. I applied for several of these, and actually interviewed for two of them. I did not make it to the final short list.”
The headhunter gave Curry the following feedback from the universities: “They thought I was an outstanding candidate, looked excellent on paper, articulated a strong vision, and interviewed very well in person. The show stopper was my public profile in the climate debate, as evidenced by a simple Google search.”
Indeed, in my own Google search of “Judy Curry,” and confirmed by others on my Twitter timeline, the Skeptical Science blacklist page for her appears on the first page of Google results, and for me it was the top listing.
How can it be that a website, founded by an Australian cartoonist named John Cook and run mainly by volunteer non-academics and amateur scientists, can rise to the position of not just claiming to arbitrate who is and who is not an appropriate hire for universities, but actually fulfilling that role?
Skeptical Science emerged in 2007, the peak of the climate blogging era. It was also a time when the pursuit of “climate skeptics” (or “deniers”) really took off. The website soon found a large audience and was promoted as an ally in the battle against climate skeptics and deniers. For instance, according to Wikipedia, “The Washington Post has praised it as the “most prominent and detailed” website to counter arguments by global warming deniers.”
But the main legitimizing factor in the rise of Skeptical Science as a powerful climate advocacy group was its endorsement by prominent scientists, such as by widely-known climate scientists Michael Mann of Penn State University and Katherine Hayhoe, of Texas Tech. Like Skeptical Science, Mann and Hayhoe focus much of their advocacy efforts on identifying and denigrating so-called climate skeptics or deniers.
The American Geophysical Union (AGU), a leading scientific association that includes many climate scientists, has routinely endorsed Skeptical Science. The AGU has even invoked the Skeptical Science blacklist, as recently as last December, when one of its writers dismissed an Australian academic by observing simply that he “has his own page on John Cook’s Skeptical Science site.” The mere fact of being listed on the Skeptical Science blacklist appears to be sufficient to be dismissed on the official website of the AGU, where Curry was elected a Fellow.
But what has happened to Curry is just the tip of the iceberg.
Upon discussing on Twitter the Skeptical Science claim that their “debunking” of Curry should make her “unhirable in academia,” a follower of mine pointed to a trove of hacked internal discussions among the Skeptical Science team. In those discussions from around 2010-2012, my father, Roger Pielke, Sr. — also a prominent atmospheric scientist — was mentioned some 3,700 times. Correspondingly, my father is also listed on the Skeptical Science blacklist.
I have read those internal discussions and what I saw is incredibly disturbing, for academic freedom and for simple human decency.
Let me take a step back and explain why I believe that it is appropriate to discuss the content of these hacked discussions. (Note: These hacked discussions are different than the Photoshopped imagery found in 2013 on an unprotected Skeptical Science website showing several Skeptical Science team members with their faces super imposed upon Nazi soldiers, with John Cook as Heinrich Himmler. According to Rob Honeycutt of Skeptical Science, those images were prepared as an in-group joke to make fun of a climate skeptic who appears on another of their lists, and were not intended for the public.)
The discussions in the hacked conversations – like those in the Wikileaks releases, those of President Emanuel Macron’s hacked conversations, or even the Climategate emails – are legitimately in the public interest.
There are at least three reasons for this. One, the hacked forum reveals that Skeptical Science – a foreign advocacy group — in collaboration with the Center for American Progress (a DC-based progressive advocacy group), improperly obtained Congressional testimony in advance from several U.S. scientists and were engaged to help Democrats in the House to impeach the testimony of these scientists. Second, the leaked discussions reveal a coordinated effort to lobby U.S. elected officials by a foreign-based entity. While such coordination may or may not meet the legal definition of “lobbying,” the appropriateness of such foreign influence efforts in U.S. politics is certainly fair to question. Third, Skeptical Science has positioned itself as a public arbiter of truth, including rendering judgments as to who is or who is not employable by universities. Their claims to service in the public interest mean that evidence contrary to such claims is also in the public interest.
For these reasons I have made the judgment that discussing the leaked discussions relevant to their stated public interest mission – and which have been in the public domain for many years – is not only fair, it is important. As the editor of the Times of London wrote in 1852, “We are bound to tell the truth as we find it, without fear of consequences.”
Knowing full well the considerable power and influence wielded by Skeptical Science and their allies, I am fearful indeed, but truth matters more. And the truth here is ugly.
The internal discussions among the Skeptical Science team, with the 3,700 mentions of Pielke Sr., reveal a years-long campaign to destroy his reputation, and to elevate their stature at his expense. The effort was coordinated and brutal.
In one representative exchange, they said, “We are HUNTING Pielke” and in another, “We are trying to bring him down,” and still another, “My vote is to take the bastard down!” Across 3,700 mentions in the dataset, there is no shortage of such expressed intent to damage, if not end, my father’s distinguished career.
Their strategy was sinister. They sought to define Pielke Sr. as a “climate denier,” and to use his prominent status in the field as the basis for elevating their own by then taking him down. Often they commented on how pleased they were to be able to use the stature of Pielke Sr. to elevate their own profile in the climate debate, “”The fact that Pielke even acknowledges SkS is a good thing.”
At times the Skeptical Science team was confused at why Pielke Sr. was engaging with them: “Why does a scientist of Dr. Pielke’s stature choose to spend so much of his time and enrgy posting on SkS? Doesn’t he have more important things to do?”
What they did not understand is that Pielke Sr. is a science nerd and is willing to talk atmospheric science with anyone – alarmist, skeptic, expert, non-expert – 24/7/365. They took advantage of this openness to discussion, and perhaps his naivete as to their motives, to seek to destroy him. They went so far as to strategically have one team member contact him by email on multiple occasions to appear friendly and engage in a side discussion to see if they could gather further information via a good cop/bad cop routine.
Some of the discussions of Pielke Sr. veered into the paranoid, with Skeptical Science team members on several occasions fantasizing that Pielke Sr. was perhaps the point man in a global climate denier conspiracy. If only they could somehow access his university emails, one mused, “Look, if the deniers’ emails are exposed I have no doubt that what we see will be unbelieveable, mind blowing, maybe even criminal. Why none has tried legitimitely (i.e., through FOIA) to access their emails is beyond me.”
The idea that Pielke Sr. is a climate denier is laughable. Skeptical Science consistently interpreted Pielke Sr.’s willingness to engage with their mortal enemies (such as Anthony Watts of the skeptical blog WattsUpWithThat) not as a sign of a magnanimous senior statesman willing to help anyone bring their ideas to the peer-reviewed literature, but as evidence of some sort of deep and irreparable moral turpitude. The hacked discussions are infused with such Manichean paranoia.
As time went by the Skeptical Science team’s attitude toward Pielke Sr. became increasingly unhinged and personal. John Cook, the founder of Skeptical Science, wrote, “”I’m finding myself very annoyed when I think about Pielke, having trouble thinking purely rationally and strategically when I think about him.” One team member expressed some concern about their attacks, “It looks like a great lion being mobbed by snarling jackals. I don’t like it.”
But in the end, the political aims of Skeptical Science meant that Pielke Sr. needed to be destroyed: “he lends the camouflage of scientific respectability to what is likely to be a very dangerous policy of fossil-fuel appeasement. I don’t care how Pielke is behaving: I’m playing to win.”
And win they have.
Even given my obvious biases, Pielke Sr. is undoubtedly a giant in the atmospheric sciences. It is hard to find any scientist of his generation with a stronger record of achievement. He was an early pioneer of computer modeling of weather, contributing to demonstrably better weather forecasts. He was also a leader in recognizing the role of land surface processes in regional and global climate. A full recounting of his achievements would span many columns here. At a time when he should be receiving lifetime achievement awards and celebrated for his contributions to science, he is instead ostracized and is still being denigrated by Skeptical Science and their followers.
My bias is not simply familial. You see, I am also on the Skeptical Science blacklist. Rarely does a day go by that this is not used on social media or, at times, in personal interactions to illustrate my lack of fitness to participate in scientific discussions, to damage my career and reputation.
Like Curry and Pielke Sr., I have seen firsthand the consequences of a public and behind-the-scenes campaign by Skeptical Science against me. Despite the widespread aversion of professor blacklisting, in climate science at least, such blacklisting is allowed and even encouraged by the community, and as a result, it works.
I have been locked out from Twitter for sharing some of the information from the hacked Skeptical Science discussions. Several Skeptical Science team members have contacted me by email in the past hours with vaguely sinister but eminently deniable threats. I expect they will come after this column next. And if you hear that I have left academia, like Curry, you’ll know why.
Even so, everything here is true, and truth matters more than fear.
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John Cook is the intellectual heir of Trofim Lysenko.
and Levrentiy Beria (who studied petroleum engineering in Baku before discovering his true calling)
After Stalin’s death, Khrushchev accused Beria of being in pay of the British intelligence, and no true Communist believer. After a short summary trial when the death sentence announced Beria begged on his knees for mercy, but to no avail, he was shot dead and his wife and son were sent to a Siberian gulag.
Maybe John Cook is related to James Cook University? Ask Peter Ridd? What is it about the Cook name in Australia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cook
Thanks Vuk. I live in New Zealand, “discovered” by Captain James Cook in 1769. Our two main islands are separated by Cook Strait. I’ve visited James Cook University, so I don’t need a Wikipedia item. I was drawing attention to a coincidence between climate twaddle deriving from two Cooks, but clearly my witty observation fell flat. Apologies.
Hi David
No apology needed, after reading the wiki’s long article I learned a lot of new stuff I didn’t know before, I’m sure there are few other readers that may find something new in there, so thank you for your witty question?
I knew about Cook’s demise, but didn’t realise it was so gruesome, I hope the upper-mentioned Cook is not too much disturbed by the fate of his long gone namesake.
The body was disembowelled, baked to facilitate removal of the flesh, and the bones were carefully cleaned for preservation. Some of Cook’s remains, thus preserved, were eventually returned to his crew for a formal burial at sea.
Maybe he changed it from Kook.
“if you look at the statements we cataloged and debunked on her [Skeptical Science] page, it should make her unhirable in academia.”
Now that is a badge of honour.
Academia has made its self unemployable in the real world.
Trust is gone.Tax dollars will also disappear,as we flatly refuse to fund enemies.
And this open attack on private citizens,promotion of climate porn and horror, by state funded agencies is hard to miss.
Big government has exposed its inherent corruption.
Next move is over to the citizens.
If you go and read what they’ve actually written; it should make zero difference to her employment prospects.
Apparently those who hear about it don’t read it either. They just give in to their demands and their propaganda.
David Niven when he was the army was warned off Trubshawe who was regarded by the brass hats to be a bad lot , so made a particular point of getting to see him.
They ended up great friends.
It’s a pity the universities don’t follow Niven’s example when recruiting researchers.
After all, if someone has upset another researcher they can’t be all bad?
RICO? RICO? Conspiracy to defraud Taxpayer Funded Institutions?
I would contribute.
Here it is, near 70-years later and what do we have? We have McCarthyism redux, this time from the left. Where are this generations Edward R. Murrow and Senator Flanders when we need them?
But glasnost showed us that McCarthy was pretty much correct.
I saw Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.’s twitter barrage. He showed lots of screen shots of hacked emails that included email addresses. I was wondering if he went too far with that.
Those email addresses are nearly two decades old.
The details are out of date or in the public sector.
The exposed corruption is a stain that fades more slowly.
“A climate advocacy group called Skeptical Science”
Climate advocacy? Is that when the climate needs counseling, it goes to these guys? Well, I guess it is the end times after all.
How exactly does one go about advocating for climate?
The greatest gift to those wanting a review of climate science is AOC..
AOC promoted Impeachment, nay, demanded it. Look at what a disaster that has been for the Democrats.
Before that her advocacy of the Green New Deal exposed the Democrats plans. It is terrifying.
The polls now indicate that President Trump is rising in popular support. Thank you AOC.
In November we will see the result. It is possible that the Red Team/Blue Team approach to a review of climate science will be underway a year hence.
There is still hope. (It is sad day that the National Academy of Sciences is AWOL on this effort.)
(It is sad day that the National Academy of Sciences is AWOL on this effort.)
That’s because the vast majority of the members are in too deep to admit that such an effort is even needed.
You want to see what happens when scientific free speech is eliminated: Dr. Li in Wuhan could tell you but…
One should surely sue them, but that is not good for future job prospects.
There are similarities between Skeptical Science and the Southern Poverty Law Center. The latter has been successfully sued, and lawsuits against government entities which rely on the SPLC for decision-making input are being sued, notably by the American Family Law Center in Michigan.
Racketeers have to persistently invalidate those who are exposing the truth.
At the earliest signs of bullying, evidence needs to be compiled, so that names of the bullies and hard evidence become part of a thorough documentation process.
As, bullying develops into serious harm, legal action taken will be made easier if everything is organized in a file, so that the key people who orchestrated the crime can all be exposed.
I think it’s possible that the blocking of his twitter account might turn out to be a black eye for twitter.
I’d like to get a copy of those emails…
Wasn’t if the University of Virginia (UVA) that gladly handed over the work emails of Pat Michaels, but fought tooth and nail to keep from turning over Mann’s? Assuming I’m remembering that correctly, that should tell you all you need to know.
It’s all “political science”?
There is a lot of big money behind the Skeptical Science thugs.
We saw just a tip of the Iceberg of that money in the ExxonKnew trial testimony, a trail that ended with a slap-down judgement against the NY State Attorney General Letitia James and her shakedown crew funded by Bloomberg’s attorney’s for hire scheme as well as other GreenSlimers.
One Group stood out in that NY vs Exxon trial testimony: CERES.org.
Ceres.org is the nexus, a money washing operation for the climate scam, whereby a lot of the climate hustle funds come in, and goes out to fund without the real donors being identifiable.
The GreenSlime is not just the billionaires looking for big money payoffs from the renewable energy scams, but also big public employee retirement funds (like CalPERS and CalSTRS) are active in CERES.org and have positions on the board of directors. These public employee retirement funds are desperately looking for new ways to amp-up their investment returns for the under-funded state (to future retirement obligations) of their portfolio. That brings a lot of political pressures to bear to keep the climate scam going and suppress any dissent coming out of academia. And the renewable energy climate scam driving up everyones electric bills is how these funds are using that indirect taxation to fleece the middle class of its affluence.
You say you have emails outlining a conspiracy to defame your father and put him out of his job, and that said conspiracy was successful?
Have you spoken to a lawyer about suing these conspirators for deliberately injuring your father?
The emails are openly available.
That means the allegations are “common knowledge”.
The truth or not is irrelevant as the defendants can claim it is common knowledge and so fair to repeat.
Freedom of speech is precious. On balance they will win.
Totally off topic, but it’s been a bit warm in Europe lately, apparently in other places too. The usual Dr Spencer’s temperature update has not been published on WUWT, how come?
But the cold will come, it’s on the way, the storm will be followed by a cold front with a drop of around 10° C
It was a lot harder to change the past and/or control information before silicon chips.
“Freedom of the Press”, “Freedom of Speech” was about printed opinions not being censured by The Government.
But, back then, the Press was a bunch of locally owned papers not controlled by a few. (Today’s MSM.)
I’m not a fan of those who change meaning and intent of The Constitution and The Bill of Rights’ by claiming it’s a “living document” so it means whatever we can twist it into, but, in this case and these times … a semi-monopoly public outlet should not be allowed to censure views that conflict with their chosen opinions. At least the legalities should be explore.
I mean, it’s not like Curry and Pielke are talking about “Hiroshima Bombs” or anything like that.
PS If Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc weren’t semi-monopoly public outlets in their fields, I might not like what they do, but I would have “let it pass”.
What they’ve done and do is the cyber equivalent of “Book Burning”.
I recently watched Margaret Hoover’s Firing Line on PBS. Here guests were Cornel West and Robert George. http://www.pbs.org/wnet/firing-line/video/cornel-west-and-robert-george-mpaztt/
No two gentlemen are more polar opposites or deeper personal friends. It is sad that the same respect for differing opinions and valuing the importance of listening to their expression cannot be demonstrated in Climate Science discussions. The climate/media Leninists are demonstrating their required obedience to their orthodoxy. The heretics to be drowned or burned to ashes in suffocating searing rhetoric.
Anti-science, anti-reason, anti-reality “global warming”/”climate change” fanatics are disgusting. Part & parcel w/ statists, collectivists, & PC SJWs trying to destroy our freedom and our rights. Bullies, cowards, & thieves undeserving of respect. Watermelons.
As for Twitter and social media, in general, if they are going act as editors, they should not have Sec. 230 protections. I don’t mean that government should regulate social media. But social media should be forced to choose: be common carriers a la phone companies or publishers a la magazines. As of now, they benefit from liability limits while censoring to their heart’s content, all the while pretending to “neutrality.”
See “Social Media and Freedom”: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083S1BBVV
We are losing. We need a different approach.
Blacklisting is just the start. The Climate Issue Political machine has removed logic and reason from policy making …
…. and are working to make it a crime to question the ‘climate change emergency’ slogan that they created and to question the spending of money on green stuff that does not work.
Dr. Judith Curry is not a ‘skeptic’.
Her writings are 100% in accordance with the IPCC incorrect paradigm.
The problem is the science part of the IPCC reports does not even support CAGW.
Shutdown countries by making energy unbelievably expensive will not change the climate…
… and it is impossible for practical engineering reasons to get to carbon emission absolute zero.
The UK Absolute Zero plan would ban the use of Cement, ban Airplane air travel, and ban Ships. It would require the end of the Mining and the Hydrocarbon industries. It would be impossible to manufacturing anything.
‘Absolute Zero’ is group suicided:
The mantra is:
1) Declare a climate emergency. Justification media control to keep on message and hide stuff.
2) We ignore GDP cuts and increased unemployment because it is a climate emergency.
https://www.repository.cam.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/1810/299414/Absolute-Zero-digital-280120-v2.pdf?sequence=6&isAllowed=y
”We are losing. We need a different approach.”
Nah, we just keep doing what we’re doing. Once the seed of doubt is sown – and it has been – it will grow.
Just sit back and watch the show.
I have noticed more and more people are quite happy to voice their (true) scepticism in the narrative.
This is especially true with the fire situation here in Australia. When you ask people for proof that CC is a major factor, you get crickets. Lookers-on notice this.
There are noises in politics here in AU about new coal fired power plants. Whether they eventuate or not, folks are talking and reality is stirring.
We need patience but truth will win.
“Nah, we just keep doing what we’re doing. Once the seed of doubt is sown – and it has been – it will grow.
Just sit back and watch the show.”
I think Mike has it right. I don’t think we are losing the argument. What we are really seeing is stepped-up hyperbole from all the usual suspects, including an orchestrated effort by the leftwing media, and they are doing all this because they also think they are losing the argument.
The alarmists have turned up the volume but the actual science is going against them and there’s nothing they can do about that, other than try to obscure the truth by being real noisy and distracting, which equates to trying to scare people to death over CO2.
The True Believers in Human-caused Climate Change are going to have a hard time dealing with the truth when it finally becomes obvious to everyone. The Liars will just move on to the next lie.
And speaking of the orchestrated effort by the leftwing media to hype CAGW (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming), I watched a Nova tv science program yesterday on Public Television and it was an hour-long prmotion of CAGW.
Their main point was comparing temperatures at various times in history with CO2 levels and then making the claim that the CO2 levels were driving the temperatures.
Of course, the argument could be made that what we are seeing is really temperature driving atmospheric CO2 levels, but that wasn’t their focus since they were promoting CAGW not trying to knock it down.
“Dr. Judith Curry is not a ‘skeptic’.”
Neither are either of the Pielke’s – Jnr always uses IPCC approved, peer-reviewed research to make his case, for example.
Doesn’t matter.
He’s “off message”, so a target.
It really is that simple – or so it seems.
My own father suffered similar vilification.
He was the first to suggest that the radiative effect of CO2 could be used to attack fossil fuel use back in 1980, back when the big scare was acid rain.
Being the first sceptic he was de facto evidence that it was a political drive that spawned thee science rather than hypotheses derived from evidence.
So they destroyed him.
Some blog sites simply censor all comments that disagree with their agenda making it look like everyone agrees with them. I am censored or blocked from posting at a lot of sites. https://watervaporandwarming.blogspot.com
Roger:
I will say a guerrilla war is in progress, outside of the more visible media/institutional warfare, that seeks to bring science/logic/common sense to people one-on-one and in small groups. Some need a science-based argument, others logic or common sense. Some respond to the political argument that climate alarmists align with socialism or worse (communism is evil and socialism is just a step or two away).
While this under-the-radar engagement has not, or may not, help you, your father, Judith or others past and present, it is a resistance to those that wish to bury science to political, even religious, zeal and that zeal will eventually yield to truth as it has done in the past. This “ground war” is where the victory will be won.
100%
Keep directing as many people as possible to WUWT.
Yes, Mike, and to the importance of voting, no matter what continent you call home.
Interesting that a search for Judith Curry on Google brings up Skeptical Science. A searcj on DuckDuckGo brings up JudithCurry.com
Huh…I guess Google’s explanation of how all those quotes about their “fairness” algorithms was a complete lie. Who would have thunk it?
Interesting that a search for Judith Curry on Google brings up Skeptical Science. A search on DuckDuckGo brings up JudithCurry.com