Back in 2010, WUWT published a story called “Faster than everyplace else…” It illustrated how the media has portrayed warming as being “doubly bad” where you live. Only one problem – we compared stories, and what we found is pretty ridiculous.
Here’s a video update:
A brief summary of Paul Rossiter’s work
https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/10/07/the-paul-rossiter-assessment/
Is there part of the world which is not part of the planet Earth, or part of the planet Earth which is not part of the world?
Very Good! Will definitely pass that one around….
This reminds me of another ‘send up’ that was shared here at WUWT.
“Here come da heap big warmy!”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/06/19/hump-day-hilarity-big-kahuna-warmy/
I saw a summary this weekend of headlines where “________ is warming twice as fast as the globe…” that led to the conclusion of the author that everywhere is warming twice as fast as everywhere.
Not here…
http://climate4you.com/images/ArgoTimeSeriesTemp59N.GIF
I guess it’s a case of out sight and out of mind.
I cound not see any mention of any location in Africa. That would explain the result: Africa is cooling and dragging down the average.
Funny what these co2-molecules can do!
Check the video again, one of the headlines was in relation to South Africa (though you had to look at the smaller print below the headline to see that). And as I posted elsewhere, ghanabusinessnews.com has an article that touts West Africa as warming faster than the average. South America, on the other had didn’t have any direct references that I recall seeing, though there are a lot of mountains in South America, and the mountains are warming twice as fast.
On a related point, the Guardian is now talking about ‘global heating’. ‘Warming’ is not alarmist enough!
Climate Strike claims “the world is on fire.” If memory serves, Al Gore back in 2007 said that when the “baby is on fire,” you don’t ask for another doctor to give a “second opinion.”
Sometimes the news due to natural climate change can be alarming.
Click on my name to read the report about the coming drought times.
Strange, the US does not seem to warm very much, call it 0 warming. So in that sense it is also correct to say US is warming twice as fast: 2 * 0 = 0
Here is a graph published on climatedepot August 27th 2019:
If 0 warming is the case for all the territories mentioned in the video, the non of the claims are falsifiable.
The headlines in the video didn’t specify the contiguous US as warming twice as fast (that I can recall seeing, possible I missed a headline). what I did see specified was:
1 – (unnamed) parts of the US (heating faster than globe as a whole) – this one is kind of hard to verify without knowing what parts they’re refereeing to.
2- Alaska (2x the global average)
3 – National Parks (2x as fast as the rest of the US)
4 – New Jersey (2x as fast as the globe)
5 – The American West (nearly twice as fast as the rest of the world)
6 – and generically “mountains” – which the US has a few of (warming 2x as fast as rest of the world)
so, in theory, parts of the contiguous US that aren’t part of the above must be warming slower and/or cooling as a counterweight to the above in order for the contiguous US as a whole to be warming at, as you say, zero.
Climate Strike claims “the world is on fire.” If memory serves, Al Gore back in 2007 said that when the “baby is on fire,” you don’t ask for another doctor to give a “second opinion.”
If the world is on ‘fire’, why do I keep having to shovel lots of snow in September?
Urban Heat Island fools every alarmist. Or does it?
Anthony
You forgot about Lake Wobegon, where all the children are above average and so are the high temperatures.
So – since almost all land is warming faster than the global average, and the northern hemisphere is warming faster than the global average – does that mean that the oceans in the southern hemisphere are cooling at a notably accelerated rate? 😛
It’s hotter all over than anywhere else. But no more than usual considering the planet is in a period of good weather. Enjoy It.
At 1:17 into this vid the headline of a media article read: “National Parks are Warming Twice As Fast as the US Overall”. How could this possibly be? US National Parks are tiny enclaves of land that are sprinkled throughout the US, in every state. How could it be that only the National Parks feel drastic warming while immediately outside their boundaries the ambient air is much cooler, or warming at half that rate? That’s crazy!
Perhaps they are referring of National Parks in Asia that might have too many Butea Monosperma?
If their methodology is consistent, my best guess is that they installed a weather station directly over Old Faithful, and extrapo-homogenized all National Parks.
Fascinating montage. Obvious really but only once it’s been pointed out.
Thank you.
The links to the articles mentioned in the video and some bonus “twice-as-much” links:
https://holoceneclimate.com/twice-as-much-warming.html
HAE vs MSL wars redux
If it’s always “Worse than we thought”, then wouldn’t that indicate that “the science is settled” is a lie?
If climate “science” really is settled, how could they not see “it” (fill in the latest hyped weather event) coming?
And can’t climate “science” add? How much of globe DIDN”T warm twice as much as the rest of the globe? Those headlines covered about everywhere.
But wait there’s more.
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/in-fast-thawing-siberia-radical-climate-change-is-warping-the-earth-beneath-the-feet-of-millions/
Fantastic! If this were done to expose all the media lies their house of cards would collapse overnight. I transcribed all the links to catch the eyes of liberal FB friends who probably won’t watch the video. So if anyone wants them..
Adirondacks warming faster than the global average, study shows
https://poststar.com/news/local/adirondacks-warming-faster-than-the-global-average-study-shows/article_f65e9da7-eec0-56a1-8340-5472c3a4a285.html
Himalayan meltdown: Hindu Kush Hmialayan region warming faster than global average
https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/himalayan-meltdown-hindu-kush-himalayan-region-warming-faster-than-global-average-63078
Tibet is warming at twice global average
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn12335-tibet-is-warming-at-twice-global-average/
Korean Peninsula is warming at a speed faster than global average
http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/353845.html
China’s heating up twice as fast as the rest of the world
https://qz.com/368028/chinas-heating-up-twice-as-fast-as-the-rest-of-the-world/
Parts of United States are heating faster than globe as a whole
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/jan/17/parts-of-united-states-are-heating-faster-than-globe-as-a-whole
Britain warming faster than average
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/10385878/Britain-warming-faster-than-average.html
Norway warming fast
https://www.norwegianamerican.com/news/norway-warming-fast/
Europe’s North Sea Warming Twice as Fast as World’s Oceans
https://www.21stcentech.com/europes-north-sea-warming-fast-worlds-oceans/
Spain warming faster than rest of northern hemisphere: study
https://phys.org/news/2010-04-spain-faster-rest-northern-hemisphere.html
Sweden’s temperature is rising more than TWICE as fast as the global average
https://www.thelocal.se/20190401/swedens-temperature-rising-more-than-twice-as-fast-as-the-global-average
Singapore waring faster than average
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-warming-faster-than-average
Arctic is Warming Twice as Fast As World Average
https://www.npr.org/2014/12/18/371438087/arctic-is-warming-twice-as-fast-as-world-average
Canada warming at twice the global rate, leaked report finds
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canada-warming-at-twice-the-global-rate-leaked-report-finds-1.5079765
Report: Alaska warming twice as fast as global average
https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Leaked-climate-change-report-outlines–439353963.html
South Africa Twice the global rate
http://www.csag.uct.ac.za/2019/09/25/twice-the-global-rate/
Mongolia on the Verge of Ecological Collapse: Warming Twice as Fast as Global Average
https://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/mongolia-on-the-verge-of-ecological-collapse-warming-twice-as-fast-as-global-average.html
National Parks are warming twice as fast as the U.S. overall
https://www.hcn.org/articles/climate-change-national-parks-are-warming-twice-as-fast-as-the-u-s-overall
Mountains are warming twice as fast as the rest of the world
https://psmag.com/environment/mountains-warming-photo-essay
Russia ‘warming 2.5 times quicker’ than global average
https://phys.org/news/2015-12-russia-quicker-global-average-ministry.html
Study Finds That Portions of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet Are Warming Twice as Fast as Previously Thought
https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=126398
New Jersey warming twice as fast as globe
http://njtoday.net/2015/09/24/new-jersey-warming-twice-as-fast-as-globe/
American West Heating Nearly Twice As Fast As Rest Of World, New Analysis Shows
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080328091347.htm
Finland is warming faster than the rest of the world
https://inhabitat.com/finland-is-warming-faster-than-the-rest-of-the-world/
Australia warming faster than world
https://www.ft.com/content/d15bc650-9b0c-11db-aa70-0000779e2340
Europe warming faster than expected due to climate change
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/08/190828100544.htm
Northern Hemisphere Warming Twice as Fast as South
https://www.enn.com/articles/5660-northern-hemisphere-warming-twice-as-fast-as-south
IPCC: Europe has been warming faster than the global average
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/oct/02/ipcc-europe-warming-faster-global-average
Canada warming at twice the global rate, leaked report finds
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/canada-warming-at-twice-the-global-rate-leaked-report-finds-1.5079765
Good work. Thanks!
This was humorous (but should be humorless?) so thank you for that. I have been battling with my alarmist friends and family over in the FB world for the past few days now over that headline montage, and even my old college mentor-turned-alarmist has chimed in through subtle means.
Something I’ve been struggling with is how to put this hype into a simple, but not too simple, equation. Of course it has been pointed out that the warming is different between land mass and ocean, and that oceans cover approximately 71% of the globe. Point was made that it’s very possible for localities to warm at 2 or 3x the rate of the global average. OK, I accept that, but all over the planet at the same time? Out of curiosity, I created a simple pivot table and, in a very basic level, used 100 data points with 29 of them (my “land mass”) given my increased value that I set as double the average. So, increasing my land mass values accordingly did have a modest impact upon the overall “global” average, which increases exponentially over my simulated decades.
Satisfied my own curiosity but of course not something worthy of tossing into a FB debate. Is there a good formula I could use and reference that would provide a more accurate demonstration of this? Of course, the noted articles and research are using different averages and time periods as reference points, but just wondering. Also, I don’t recall seeing anything about the rapid cooling of land mass as compared to global average; is this not occurring as well (offset by ocean warming)?
While Gavin Schmidt Tweets this link to Ken Rice, adding “Stupid People”, I ask who is the stupid one?
Solar insolation provides the ‘first’ 255 Kelvin [ -18.15°C ] – in accordance with the black body law; this being the ‘effective’ or the ‘base’ level. Then gravitationally induced autocompression provides the ‘other’ 33 Kelvin, termed the ‘residual’, to arrive at the known and measured average global temperature of 288 Kelvin [14.85C ]. The ‘other’ 33 Kelvin is not hypothesised to be provided by the greenhouse effect, because if it was, the molar mass version of the ideal gas law would not then work to accurately calculate real planetary temperatures in the case of small incremental changes to gas levels, as it clearly does here.
This leads directly to the conclusion that a small change in any single atmospheric gas, not only has little effect on atmospheric temperatures, but has a very similar effect to the same percentage change in any other atmospheric gas. It is seen therefore, that no one gas particularly affects atmospheric temperatures more than any other gas; so, there can be no significant ‘greenhouse warming’ caused by ‘greenhouse gases’ on Earth, or for that matter on any other planetary body. Instead, it is hypothesised that the residual temperature differences, and the tropospheric thermal gradient observed on planetary bodies, are actually caused by auto-compression
Who is the stupid one Gavin? You or Rice ? It isn’t any of us!
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/74cc/22093ad3181feefdc9b0b30b88ad45e6c0fa.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1af4sz3pCj8o5k7aMjnxDZF9FKvYG8_WjcJxpvOjP_KVo3zKaTBWH1eu0
joe,
As you say, I can do the simple arithmetic.
What I can’t do is understand your point. Can you tell me what your point is, please?
I remind that my point was and is that records can be expected everywhere each and every year whether or not the climate is changing.
Richard
Sorry about this duplicated post. I do not understand how it has happened.
Richard
I think this is very relevant to this discussion: it shows what real science has to say about Earths temperature
“Solar insolation provides the ‘first’ 255 Kelvin [ -18.15°C ] – in accordance with the black body law; this being the ‘effective’ or the ‘base’ level. Then gravitationally induced autocompression provides the ‘other’ 33 Kelvin, termed the ‘residual’, to arrive at the known and measured average global temperature of 288 Kelvin [14.85C ]. The ‘other’ 33 Kelvin is not hypothesised to be provided by the greenhouse effect, because if it was, the molar mass version of the ideal gas law would not then work to accurately calculate real planetary temperatures in the case of small incremental changes to gas levels, as it clearly does here.
“Temperature in a gas is a measure of the average kinetic energy of the particles in the gas. When atmospheric gas pressure exceeds 10 KPa, a temperature gradient is set up from that pressure level, down to the planetary surface (this thermal gradient is known and measured to continue even below the surface, if there is for example, a mine shaft). It is postulated here, that the cause of this thermal gradient is gravity-induced auto-compression. In general terms, the surface temperature sets up convective overturning of the troposphere, which is adiabatic through much of the convection cycle, and this combines with gravitationally induced atmospheric auto-compression to create the observed tropospheric thermal enhancement and temperature gradient.
“This leads directly to the conclusion that a small change in any single atmospheric gas, not only has little effect on atmospheric temperatures, but has a very similar effect to the same percentage change in any other atmospheric gas. It is seen therefore, that no one gas particularly affects atmospheric temperatures more than any other gas; so, there can be no significant ‘greenhouse warming’ caused by ‘greenhouse gases’ on Earth, or for that matter on any other planetary body. Instead, it is hypothesised that the residual temperature differences, and the tropospheric thermal gradient observed on planetary bodies, are actually caused by auto-compression.”
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/74cc/22093ad3181feefdc9b0b30b88ad45e6c0fa.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3tZ35mdf76ZIE1jIV5hsDWKuq11fg3CP-gqfTFsSWqSRYE7SgFM9NEIiQ
The main problems that exist are detailed in the below attached paper and that is :
1. “Abstract: The global temperature trends provided by the Australian Bureau of Meteorology are artificially exaggerated due to subjective and unidirectional adjustments of recorded values.” [Please note it states:
” global temperature trends”
2, “Introduction
Raw temperature data of historical stations not affected by large urban heat islands show temperatures have not warmed since the end of the 1800s.”
3″ Conclusion
We suggest that priority should be given to real observed data, and data analysis should use standard statistical techniques. On this basis we find that over the full time since records were collected there is no appreciable sign of warming or increase in extreme events in Australia. There is no cause for alarm if the normal scientific method of observation hypothesis testing is retained.”
4, Revising the raw temperature data of the past is an unscientific process that lies somewhere between dubious and fraudulent. Any link between the Australian temperature data and carbon dioxide emission is utterly speculative.”
You can read the paper here: I would also like to state that blog discussions are utterly corrupted by AGW paid troll bloggers.
https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j/quageo.2017.36.issue-1/quageo-2017-0006/quageo-2017-0006.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3ktOaca1PQbcFEPujuS1BTh2mvbOxxdLbMovOpEZqm-3WN5BMGPQxZHoQ