Climate Messiah Greta Thunberg Lashes Out at Australia’s Andrew Bolt

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Greta has accused Andrew Bolt of being part of a hate and conspiracy campaign, for suggesting her climate certainty might be a symptom of her mental disorders.

Naturally Greta’s supporters have joined her condemnation of Andrew Bolt’s article.

What did Andrew Bolt say to draw such a response?

BOLT: WE MUST DOUBT DISTURBED TEEN’S CLIMATE DOGMA

I have never seen a girl so young and with so many mental disorders treated by so many adults as a guru

What is so fascinating about this Thunberg cult is not just that she’s believed so fervently even though she’s wrong.

But Thunberg has something very rare as well — a sense of absolute certainty. She shows not the slightest doubt and forgives not the slightest compromise. This allows followers who are tormented with doubt and burden of freedom to relax into her totalitarian certainty.

And in Thunberg’s case, that certainty comes from what normally would be seen as a disability.

If we can believe a book by her mother, opera soprano and Eurovision contestant Malena Ernman, Thunberg went two months without eating when she was 11.

She suffered years of depression and anxiety attacks and was finally diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome, high-functioning autism, and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Her intense fear of the climate is not surprising from someone with disorders which intensify fears.

Read more (paywalled): https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/andrew-bolt/andrew-bolt-greta-has-no-doubts-but-we-should/news-story/bbc290f5c0e468505bd21bf2a6ec19c7

Why do greens find Greta so fascinating? I think Andrew Bolt hit the nail on the head, the certainty is the key.

Certainty is alluring to people who are tormented by their own unacknowledged doubts.

That doubt must be there; if the millions of people who claim to be worried about climate change wholeheartedly believed the world was about to end, the way Greta does, they would abandon their normal lives and march until the world changed.

Greta’s certainty is a taste of the freedom from doubt they yearn for. Greta’s apparent purity of purpose, her refusal to fly, her innocence, is an inspiration to climate believers who feel shame for their personal weakness, for all the carbon compromises they make in their daily lives.

This in my opinion is why any suggestion that Greta’s certainty might be a product of her mental condition draws such a furious response; if Greta’s certainty is unfounded, if her certainty is a symptom of her mental disorders, then Greta’s certainty is false. The magic is broken.

Note: My thanks to Andrew Bolt and Newscorp for providing the text of his article.

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187 thoughts on “Climate Messiah Greta Thunberg Lashes Out at Australia’s Andrew Bolt

  1. Greta Thunderbox is a victim of child abuse.
    For her parents to parade a mentally disturbed and gullible teenager in from of the world is nothing short of SICK.
    (Thunderbox is an Australian euphemism for an outdoor toilet).

    • Her disability wasn’t a “mental illness” to start with, but climate change took a learning disability and turned it into a mental illness – paranoid delusions about climate. And we dare not make a claim that a learning disability might affect how she views things. I feel sorry for her being used like that. She shouldn’t be out there on the forefront of this issue. She’s vulnerable and she’s put in a position where people must correct her and of course, this is why we supposedly can’t. Alarmists are now using her to prevent attacks on them.

      • This is Child Abuse. The fact she has a disability is the reason they chose her to do this. They wanted those who wished to discredit her to be called out as unfeeling and agenda driven partisans and squelch all dissent of the position she was given to spout.

        IT IS A WELL ESTABLISHED PLOY. Even Hitl*r understood using children will give you the advantage in getting the public to act against its own, best, self interests. “It’s for the children” is in every playbook the propagandists have.

        The parents should be held to account for their allowing this child abuse, IMHO. Who, in your right mind, allows their child be abused in this way?

        • Greta needs to search YouTube for “Greenpeace Angry Kid”, to see her angry predecessor from 12 years ago. The alarmists love to use children, and fill their little heads with scary predictions.

        • “sanctimonious adults picking on a girl”
          “the punishment, a humiliation, dumped on this girl was way over the top, given her age”

          Andrew Bolt

      • See if the planet is ever going to be destroyed, then asteroids and meteorites will do it block off the sun and start another ice age similar to what destroyed the dinosaurs,. The asteroids ect are constantly monitored and if a dangerously sized one in on contact mode then they blast it out of range, what makes people think that climate change is a threat when scientists are going to these lengths to protect the planet

    • Perhaps not child abuse , but her mental condition makes her susceptible to delusions .
      I read that she saw Gore,s film , which made her convinced about Glolbal warming .

      In the UK in 2006 the high court ruled that because of all of the lies in the film , it was just propaganda , & must not be shown to children in school without a full explanation that it was not true .
      https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/noel-sheppard/2007/10/09/court-identifies-eleven-inaccuracies-al-gores-inconvenient-truth

      It is a pity that the same thing did not happen in Sweden , [ & every other country .]

      • Gore’s film An Inconvenient Truth was one of the three things that led me to suspect that the Global Warming scare was not based on science. [in case anyone is curious the other two were: #2: a local newspaper’s Earth Day article describing how people should switch off the electric lights (electricity here is 100% generated from falling water – no GHG impact) and burn candles (candles made from paraffin, which is a petroleum product) to show solidarity with the Earth. #3: Anthony Watt’s thorough deconstruction (https://wattsupwiththat.com/gore-and-bill-nye-fail-at-doing-a-simple-co2-experiment/) of Bill Nye’s Greenhouse Gas Experiment video, and Bill Nye’s refusal to retract it.]

      • Here in Finland (east of Sweden) Gore´s film was shown in schools. My daughter saw that and after the film she wanted to ask some questions. Teacher said that questions are not allowed. She told me that when she came home.
        I said to her that this is the way how propaganda works. They push this BS down your throat and if they deny questions they know it´s BS. Real science always allows questions and don´t never stop asking, because it´s your “job” as a student. Schools responsibility is to answer your questions.

    • If constantly telling a child that they are useless or stupid is abuse, then what else would one call telling children that they have no future and should live in fear? The reason people have used children for many political and social purposes is simply that they are vulnerable and manipulable, and are potential objects of pity.
      When this child’s utility as a tool is ended I wonder if the broken remains will simply be discarded and another take its place.

  2. Eric Worrall is absolutely right. Certainty attracts the admiration of religiously fervent people and the Climateers and the Warmistas are amongst the most fervent religious believers since the Muslims moved out of Arabia.

    • Bolt may have had some valid points but publicly attacking a child in such a mean and vindictive way undermined anything he had to say. It was bile not a reasonably argued point.

      If St Greta has been diagnosed with OCD, that is probably why so many can identify with her, the whole “climate” movement is an obsessional, pseudo-religious cult.

      Her carefully crafted, fairly tale Hansel and Greta(l) image implies innocence which can not be questioned ( how many 15 year olds really go around with pigtails trying to look like they are still ten ? )

      Bolt’s piece was abusive to far less so than her own parents who clearly manipulating this allegedly “challenged” minor to advance their own political agenda.

      • Cartoonberg is a “human shield.” The climate mafia cannot be allowed to get away with using her. If you don’t want people “publicly attacking a child,” get the climate mafia to stop hiding behind her.

        They are the problem. They have created the situation. Worrall is not the problem; he is the messenger.

      • Greta can go jump.

        She wants to destroy the future. Exactly why she has reached this conclusion is not important, the point is her end game is complete destruction of western society. Doesn’t matter if she believes she is doing the moral or ethical thing, what she is suggesting is objectively bad.

        But stating this is mean and nasty because iddy biddy Greta is only a little girl?

        That is the ENTIRE point of her handlers. Her age is their shield.

        Honestly, either she means and understands everything she says because she is a personification of pure evil, or she she has no idea of the real world because she is a mentally disabled puppet being used by adults for their own agenda. Either way if she wants to strut the public world stage she should be prepared for the response from the audience or get a job in IT where she doesn’t have to deal with humans.

          • “personification of pure evil”

            The hateful, narrow-minded things you read in an echo-chamber…

          • Loydo

            So you, hateful, narrow-minded disgustoid think it´s okay to abuse mentally disabled child to drive something which she doesn´t understand.
            You Loydo are pure evil-minded creature who is ready to throw children to flames just for your satisfaction. Shame on you dork!

      • Publicly presenting a child as a propaganda front was supposed to prevent any criticism of their hysterical climate claims. It seems it didn’t work, now they scream child abuse.

      • Here in the US the children of Presidents have been, basically, off limits in the press while they were still young and not politically active.
        Greta is very much politically active and has serious mental issues. (She says she can “see” CO2!!)
        Bolt bluntly pointing out the mental instability of the Green’s “Joan of Arc” was not over the top.

      • Are you saying that if the ’emperor’ had been a child, he should not be told about his nakedness. I rather think Greta is a control freak, and will lash out at anyone or thing that does not dance to her tune, wheter it be what is put on the table for lunch, how her bed is made or her delusions about the end of the world. As to her parents, anyone else that used a seriously disturbed child in this way would have the child taken into care. Someone needs to say in public what many have been saying in private.

      • That’s rubbish; she needs to be refuted in any way possible, she is a menace.
        Of course, on reflection, maybe as she is so obviously false and demonstrative of her mental disabilities, continual focusing on her inanities might not be a bad idea.

      • Greg, get real. Greta is a convenient vehicle for rabid leftist groups to spread their poison through society. Last week Saint Greta was seen wearing an ANTIFA T-shirt, but she says she only borrowed it from a friend. So now we know she has “friends” who support ANTIFA. She is constantly surrounded by a pack of 20-30 year old activists who write her material for her and pump her full of propaganda. She is nothing more than their mouthpiece and as such her pronouncements are absolutely fair game for criticism.

        She is also donating all income from her upcoming song, to Extinction Rebellion. The only redeeming thing is that Greta is unlikely to be the next Beatles or Led Zeppelin and the royalties will be underwhelming.

        Bolt also has a nightly prime time TV show and he had a prominent psychiatrist on talking about Greta’s mental state and the effect that has on her apocalyptic evangelism. She was dealt with very sympathetically on the show, but the implications are the same and worrying.

        When Greta goes on strike from school, it isn’t from normal high school, but from a Special School. She is one mixed up kid. Her younger sister is apparently even worse. Her mother also has Aspergers and sincerely believes Greta can see CO2. Her parents are both activists — especially her father.

        “After years of depression, eating disorders, and anxiety attacks, she finally receives a medical diagnosis: Asperger’s syndrome, high-functioning autism, and OCD. She also suffers from selective mutism—which explains why she sometimes can’t speak to anyone outside her closest family. When she wants to tell a climate researcher that she plans a school strike on behalf of the environment, she speaks through her father.”

        So her climate-activist father speaks for her — how convenient. Selective mutism is a very expedient facet of her disabilities. Anyone around her can “interpret” her feelings or eye-blinks or whatever as they choose, to push their own agenda.

        More and more extreme groups are riding on her saintly coat tails pulling this puppet’s strings and plying her daily with propaganda. This girl is way beyond a joke — she is dangerous, or at least the ideas she promotes are dangerous. She must be called out after every stupid, non-factual statement she makes.

    • “nicholas tesdorf August 3, 2019 at 6:20 pm

      Certainty attracts the admiration of religiously fervent people and the Climateers and the Warmistas are amongst the most fervent religious believers”

      Yes, but Andrew and Eric avoid placing Greta into a proper analogical context as you almost have.

      “Climate Messiah Greta Thunberg”

      Bingo in the title; not quite fulfilled within the article.

      “But Thunberg has something very rare as well — a sense of absolute certainty. She shows not the slightest doubt and forgives not the slightest compromise. This allows followers who are tormented with doubt and burden of freedom to relax into her totalitarian certainty.”

      Greta fulfills a desperate need in the fervent religious believers so well described by Nicholas, Andrew and Eric.
      Greta is an innocent virginal woman by appearances; beset by severe challenges that she publicly conquers.

      Greta fulfills the climate messiah image role. Visibly and emotionally where Greta echoes a well known religious role.
      Fervent believers are able to fill a vacant role in their mythological Gaia pantheon with this supremely fervent absolutely confidant climate leader whose simple beliefs are unshakeable.

      Where science should establish the knowledge foundation that helps to understand nature; Greta fulfills a religious role that refuses criticism, sheds scientific inconsistencies and those pesky decades of prediction failures.

      Belief, fervent religious belief, forms the impervious rock true believers need to shut out skeptics. Skeptics who point out consistent inadequacies where CO₂ fails to fulfill as a deity level climate control. Instead believers can now follow the supremely confident innocent woman child whose unshakeable faith withstands global criticisms.

      Demonizing carbon dioxide and by coincident factors, all of mankind’s emissions rapidly becomes a full religion. After installing a new climate religious leader, next to come are formal observances, roles, and rites.

      Now climate religion parishioners can fervently believe demon carbon dioxide and all disbelievers are officially d^mned to eternal perdition.

      Sailing, especially on modern cold-molded carbon fiber racing yachts is on it’s way to becoming an observance. Mal de mer will be proper penance for believers.

    • People who are concerned about climate change are taking action every day. The reason there is not more action is only cognitive dissonance. The same reason we don’t give all our surplus income to people starving etc. Greta is admired for her leadership, that’s all.

      Climate change is demonstrated by science. It is ironic that so many deniers try to argue that being convinced by scientists is a religion.

      Isn’t it possible that wealthy people with a vested interest in high emission industries have sought to influence public opinion?

      If the readers of this material do have an open mind, do you entertain the possibility that the scientific community is not a giant conspiracy?

      Do you at least acknowledge it is possible that vested interests in fossil fuel have tried to misrepresent climate science.

      I think you are mostly not idiots. Do you think you might be using your intelligence to justify your own beliefs rather than being truly open minded?

      • You do realize, that most of the “high emission” industries are among the largest supports of green energy technologies, yes? And thus they have no vested interest in reducing the usage of solar or wind power.

  3. I wonder what it is she is “certain” about. Could she be certain in the truthfulness of those who go beyond the UN IPCC conclusions? Imminent climate catastrophe is not postulated by any of the UN IPCC reporting text.

    All that the UN IPCC SR15 says is that, according to extremist model “projections,” we have to destroy our world economies to stay within 1.5 C of the Little Ice Age temperatures. The report did not show any detrimental impact to any climate metric if temperatures got 0.5 C higher than today’s benign climate. The UN IPCC SR15, in accordance with its directions, simply listed all the insane things the would would have to do to “theoretically” stay within the 1.5 C arbitrary limit. Every thing else is wild conjecture fed by trough-feeders.

    I still think Greta’s parents are using a damaged child to further their political beliefs.

    • I also don’t think Greta wrote the rebuttal. Those are not words that came from a 16 year old mouth or mind, even if she has Autism. The hoax continues.!

      • For anybody that has been involved with divorce and custody disputes involving children, that she is being coached and used to advance a narrative is obvious. It is child abuse.

    • True. Also it should be noted that many of the underlying pathology of OCD, depression, eating disorders, etc. are at least partially inheritable, ie., run in families, ie., may be present in her parents.

      One does not know, but agree this cold, political use of a child is pathologic in and off itself, like the parents who enter their children in beauty contests and put them on TV for whatever vicarious purpose.

    • True. Also it should be noted that many of the underlying pathologies of OCD, depression, eating disorders, etc. are at least partially inheritable, ie., run in families, ie., may be present in her parents. They may be a little crazy.

      One does not know….but I agree this cold, political use of a child is pathologic in and of itself, like parents who enter their children in beauty contests or put them on TV in “reality shows” for whatever vicarious or greedy purpose.

      How wonderfully morally superior her parents and promoters are! (do I need to say “sarcasm”?)

      All that being said, we should go light on the kid herself, for decency’s sake. She is yet a child. Her parent’s and others who use her are the evil ones.

    • David

      With Britain’s long running CET series we can see the depths of the later phase of the LIA and that the 1.5C limit was reached in the 1730’s, 1820’s 1870’s 1930’s and in the modern era from the 1990’s. Why are we so worried about being marginally above the LIA the coldest period in the entire 10000 year Holocene

      tonyb

  4. Andrew Bolt is one of the very few Australian media commentators who dares to speak the truth.
    I think he actually buys his time on television, “The Bolt Report” and raises his own advertising revenue.
    The left hate him.
    It is normally a good show.

    • For those outside Australia, or in Australia but without sky tv, his show is also available as a podcast.

  5. If she is, as reported, planning on crossing the Atlantic on a racing yacht, she is more than slightly mentally disturbed.

  6. HBO had a newish 2 hour climate change movie last night, and lovely ‘lil Greta closed it out the last few minutes with the impassioned plea to ‘do something’ whatever that means or what that will truly accomplish. She spoke nearly perfect Queen’s English with a tiny bit of Swedish accent and didn’t appear to be mentally handicapped to me. At least in the true sense of the word, not her belief system. Perhaps this was heavily edited and ‘shopped’ to appear as normal as possible.

    Now I am not a Dr of any kind, but I don’t think she is really that autistic or suffering heavily from Asperger’s syndrome. She appears developmentally delayed, perhaps due to AFS as I have read elsewhere, although that is probably pure speculation. Probably very much OCD and also very impressionable by her immediate elders now that she has gone hog wild on the CAGW bandwagon, maybe because she has the ‘gene’ like so many others including her parents.

    But if Greta is as authentic as she is trying to make out about her belief of the ‘climate emergency’, I would urger her to take a few years and study intently in general the 40+ disciplines and science of weather/climate and all the other relative subjects that make up Earth Science. It probably won’t change anything, but at least she will have her own facts and not the simple brainwashing that is happening to all the other kids.

    Here is a YouTube video of speech last week before the French Parliament. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns54HAZgHvY

    • E2….. One of the primary symptoms of Aspergers is a delayed development of communication skills. You seem to have recognised that in her.

      It does not mean that she is lacking in intelligence. In fact it is common for HFAspergers to be well above average in IQ. If it helps you understand, back before Aspergers was a common diagnosis, it was described to me as “a bad case of absent-minded-professor syndrome”.

      An above-average intellect combined with a very narrow focus can take us down some very deep rabbit-holes. You probably owe more to such people in the realms of science and technology than you realise, but if we pick the wrong rabbit-hole and are not taught the value of context……

      • If she can speak almost perfect English ( as a foreign language ) and address large bodies of national politicians at the age of 15, I would say she is showing precocious development not delayed development of communication skills !

        The simple clothing and the infantile hair styling is all part of the PR presentation scam.

        • For “communication”, substitute “socialisation”. Aspies are often excellent communicators, but they lack the understanding of social cues necessary to know when to talk and when to shut up. They have to learn social skills procedural, which can be very stressful when they encounter a situation to which they have no learned response

          It’s not unusual for someone with Aspergers to learn multiple languages, or to obsessively learn some other skill, or acquire inordinate amounts of knowledge about particular fields. Obsessive topic focus is one of the traits of the condition, after all.

          I know someone with aspergers. She can make hour-long presentations entirely from memory and answer endless questions on the topic afterwards, but she has absolutely no idea how to function in a the social environment outside that restricted set of circumstances. She’s also susceptible to accepting statements from authorities as absolute truth because the authority presented it to her as such.

        • No one should be surprised that she speaks perfect English. This is simply the norm for Swedes of the present younger generation, even those who don’t come from a family of actors and entertainers

        • Good god, what does her hairstyle have to do with anything? If you have to attack her personal appearance, instead of what she is saying, you are on very thin ice (no pun intended!). I’ve never read so much conspiracy drivel in my life as on this site.

      • PeterW August 3, 2019 at 10:02 pm

        E2….. One of the primary symptoms of Aspergers is a delayed development of communication skills. You seem to have recognised that in her.

        It does not mean that she is lacking in intelligence. In fact it is common for HFAspergers to be well above average in IQ.

        _________________________________________

        Nonsens: half of this kind of people are, like all of us, more ore less above the average, the other half natarully not above.

        You’re on the “Rainman” romance trip, Peter.

        https://medium.com › embracing-asd

        Do people with autism or Asperger’s score higher on IQ tests? – Medium

        By 2014,

        [only] 50% of people with ASD had average or above-average intelligence (IQ > 85),

        [while] 33% of people with ASD had an intellectual …

        _________________________________________

        https://www.google.com/search?q=asperger+iq+average&oq=asperger+iq+average&aqs=chrome.

        Seems you have your own postfacts disabilities, Peter – please don’t infect other readers here.

  7. Neither Aspergers nor HFA should make us immune from criticism or correction….. no more than the normal human condition does. There is nothing wrong in pointing out that those who have them, have certain tendencies when it comes to viewing the world around us, ESPECIALLY when we are young and lack experience in dealing with the world’s uncertainties.

    I have reason to know……

    Unfortunately for Greta, the more she is sheltered while she is a child, the more difficulty she will face as an adult when she has to face the realities on independent living.

    • I had never heard of him. wiki

      Marjoe was a talented kid who was totally trained and coached by his parents. That isn’t the important thing though. The important thing is that there are techniques that even a child can use. Those techniques are highly effective.

      It also doesn’t matter if someone is sincere or just conniving. The techniques are being used, deliberately or instinctively. People are falling for the techniques. People aren’t being swayed by facts. People aren’t being swayed by logic.

      One way or another, Greta is a false prophet. False prophets are evil. Her certainty is evil.

      Most of the greatest evils that man has inflicted upon man have come through people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was false. Bertrand Russell, Unpopular Essays

    • oh wow!!! that was an utter whammo
      I knew i knew that name;-)
      when you coming back red ryder? excellent B movie and he really WAS good in it.
      now Im going to have to rewatch it if the library can get a copy

      I had utterly no idea of the rest of his history , explains how he did so well as a pschycopath though;-))

  8. Disturbed and vulnerable, or just another towering a$$hole with a Messiah complex?

    Who cares? Shut up, KID!

  9. Given she claims to be able to see CO2 molecules and would be a clue to those scientifically informed that she is indeed delusional and should be ignored. One thing is for sure, at 16 her reasoning brain is still developing and thus has a lot to learn about the real world.

    I agree with Glenn, the left and “climate” believers utterly hate Andrew Bolt for telling it like it is.

  10. Thank Greta Thunderbox for helping to spread the news about her own mental disabilities. Andrew got more free publicity from Greta than he would have gotten from a Donald Trump tweet. Well, maybe not, but among climate sensitive people pretty close.

  11. The day is coming when she will advocate that non-believers be hanged, drowned, or burned at the stake. The testimony of delusional children have caused many to die by those methods. History does have a tendency to repeat itself.

        • I was implying the 2nd Amendment has led to the many well-armed citizens in the U.S. They will protect this Constitutional Republic from any usurpers.

          As for zealots not respecting the U.S. Constitution, we already have a number in the group of Democrat Presidential hopefuls that have no such respect.

          • “As for zealots not respecting the U.S. Constitution, we already have a number in the group of Democrat Presidential hopefuls that have no such respect.”

            And we have a former Democrat president who did not respect the U.S. Constitution and even deliberately tried to undermine it with his use of Federal Government Power to attack his political opponents and overturn a U.S. presidential election.

            Radical Democrats, which includes all these Democrats in leadership, don’t have any respect for the U.S. or the U.S.Constitution. They prove it every day with their efforts to divide people and undermine society.

        • They are the ones who think guns are so evil that they won’t own them. The guns are on our side.

          • No, they think guns are so evil, only their security and agents of the State should be allowed to have them.

      • Mob action is not a pretty thing when it happens. With this fraud going on, it could happen just about anywhere.

        • No kidding, Dave. Mob action is the reason I moved OUT of Chicago almost 20 years ago. Much safer where I am now. And quieter, too.

        • “Mob action is not a pretty thing when it happens.”

          No it’s not, and it is easy to be caught up in the emotions of the moment even for people who normally have a little bit of sense.

          Emotions are a powerful thing, and those who use emotions to generate hate and anger are very dangerous to society. And I’m not talking about President Trump, I’m talking about all the Democrats who distort every word he says in an effort to demonize him, and in the process cause consternation in millions of people who don’t know any better. Democrat lies are the big problem the nation faces.

  12. Will be fascinating to see how the girl is doing 10 years from now, long after she’s been used up and discarded. I suspect it won’t be positive. So sad.

    • Or even two years from now. Pure speculation, but I’d guess another of her problems is delayed puberty.

    • Her younger sister suffers from similar mental disturbances. She’ll be groomed to join/replace her.

  13. We should doubt any supposed wunderkind who claims to be able to see a colourless & odourless trace gas that makes up .04% of the atmosphere.

    We should also condemn any adults that would use such a child to pursue a political advantage.

    I hope this child gets the help she do obviously needs.

  14. My wife is a high on the spectrum Autistic.She has been able to game her own system and sometimes
    use it to her advantage. She has two degrees and can operate smoothly in real life.
    Greta knows full well what she is doing.

  15. Greta is not much different than those girls of Salem.
    Those witch trials resulted in pubic hearings and executions. Young girls of Greta’s age were believed by church leaders and sitting judges. And public executions took place.

  16. Jeanne d’Arc (aka Joan of Arc) – according to Wikipedia – began influencing events at the age of 16. This did not end well for her, but we have been left with an interesting character.
    In the great sweep of history, my guess is that the French young lady will be remembered long after the Swedish activist is forgotten.

    • Joan of Arc was burned at the stake for heresy. Greta takes up the new religion and is more likely to win a Nobel prize and be set for life. It’s difficult to predict the future though.

  17. Another spokesperson who’s pronouncements can not be criticized, with out the critic being vilified. It’s an effective tactic to silence rebuttal.

  18. Describing that tweet as “lashing out at Andrew Bolt” show more about you Eric that either Thunberg or Bolt.

    • Loydo, are you a parent?

      Greta, is missing a lot of school and being used by adults who can’t convince millions to believe in their climate delusions, so they decided to play on her childish immaturity to promote a climate hustle, saying the same bullcrap the adults have been saying for years.

      It is child abuse, that only decent parents can see clearly, that YOU fail to see it, shows that have a dark streak in you.

      • “being used” You have no evidence of that. (No, evidence is not your opinion.)
        I am a parent. What is most disturbing about Andrew Bolt lashing out against a 16yo is the calculated publicity he would recieve. This is in character.

        • It is clear you have never had children.

          It is abuse when they are denied getting an education and a loving home. Instead she is being used by her activist parents who use her youth and ignorance to advance the SAME propaganda the adults have failed to con enough of the public with.

          Her claims are not hers for the most part and that she has been lied to, and she promotes some of the lies herself as a puppet she is.

          It is horrible that her emotional and physical well being is not important to you, you disgust me for what YOU are.

    • Your comment tells us everything we need to know about you. And it’s all bad.

      Oh what fun this mindless stuff is right?

  19. BOLT makes a SHOCKING remark creating a STORM of controversy.Some people say he’s a very BRIGHT guy.

  20. I do not think little Greta’s pronouncements are interesting. The words of children very seldom are of any importance to anyone other than proud parents and doting grandparents.

    The simplest theory is that Greta believes what she believes because that is what her parents and her teachers taught her. Very few little kids her age have an independently derived set of beliefs. Very few, like almost none.

    Here is the thing, what children believe is simply not interesting. If the media is putting her forward as someone whose beliefs should be respected, either the media are fools, or they think their customers are fools. On the basis of a lifetime of listening to the media, I think both possibilities are true.

  21. I predict that in about ten years she will file a lawsuit against her parents and/or handlers for child exploitation and abuse. And win. Then on the way home from the courthouse in her SUV she will stop for a fill-up with gasoline before rushing home to order a load of heating oil before the next winter storm hits.

  22. I know of a couple of people with Asbergers. Once they latch on to something, they are like a dog with a bone! Will not give it up easily, if at all!
    Once Greta started down this path, it would be very easy to keep on ‘feeding’ her! And the monster grows!

    • Prone to religious indoctrination and zealotry in general, so if she encounters a brew like an ‘approved’ planetary doom CAGW freak-out, then it’s going to press all of her buttons at once. A compulsive and obsessive response is practically assured. Add chumming by mass-media and geeking-out on the PlayStation or being hall-monitor at school is just not going to cut-it any longer. Her inner narcissist and authoritarian excuse-maker has now fully taken over. She can do no wrong in her view.

  23. The climate alarmists, like their communist fellow travelers, like people like Greta because it gives them a certain amount of insulation from criticism. If you are some victim group then any criticism can be brushed aside with name calling such as racism or sexism of, in this case, ableism. This means they can avoid actually dealing with the substance of the critic.

  24. Greta’s and her parent’s climate crusade is the norm here in Sweden. Greta may just be a bit more extreme than most. It is mostly farmers who have an opinion different from the accepted state viewpoint, due the fact that farmers are milked by the EU and the Swedish state, and they dependend on the “real” world.
    Greta’s viewpoint is not a new concept in Sweden. Back in the 60’s I saw a small film on TV, where the Swedes suggested we made cars with sail instead of ICE. It was obviously meant funny – and then again.

    • I know how to shut those farmers up: same way they do everywhere else, exercise eminent domain and erect wind turbines all over their land. Screw the food supply, the state needs to show them who’s boss!

      The more I learn, the more libertarian I become.

  25. Bolt’s comments this week hit the mark squarely. If Greta wants to talk to adults in the way she insists she must then she better be ready for a lot more strong criticism to come. Retreating back to childish bluster and empty claims when challenged is not good enough.

    Got honesty Greta?

  26. Every time I see this girl, it reminds me of Carrie, as portrayed by Cissy Spacek.
    The belief she can actually see CO2 simply adds to the uncomfortable feelings she invokes. If Greta is allowed to continue her crusade to destroy civilised society, I think her achievement and consequent casualty score, will be way beyond anything even Steven King could imagine.

      • The publisher is doing what they call “damage control” because of the commotion the statement caused, which could hurt sales.

        “The publisher of the book in Sweden said: “I was shocked by the commotion in Germany, Belgium and now also in Italy”.”

        If it was a metaphor, the mom wouldn’t have said “naked eye”. The phrase would be something more like “She sees what other’s can’t or won’t. She can see CO2 flowing out of the smokestacks and affecting the earth, ” When you use a very precise term, it means very precise things.

  27. She must be a sick little girl. How else can one explain why she thinks she knows more about the global warming scam at the immature age of 16 years,than thousands of grown up scientists who have studied the subject all their lives. Why on earth do mature adults follow her mis-guided beliefs is a mystery. But then all these people who follow the cult are themselves something of a mystery.

  28. Listening to a child as if she has all the answers is just plain weird. She simply parrots what she has been told without any new or original ideas or solutions. I hope this lunacy marks the high water point of climate nonsense, because if gets stupider than this, heaven help us.

    • Mass crusades can get wildly stupid; stupid on steroids. I see the hysteria ramping up seemingly daily with the climate crusaders.

  29. That you have to attack the person rather than the idea, shows just how desperate you are.
    A gifted 16 year old can be articulate, show empathy, and understand the long-term implications of continuing greenhouse gas emissions. Suggesting that her opinions are due to her ‘disabilities’ is disgusting. Autism is not a disability, it is simply a different mode of thinking that many of us have to some degree. Accusing her parents of brain-washing with zero evidence is also a new low.

        • “Can Greta Thunberg really CO2?”
          You get your info from a rag that kinda forgot the word “SEE” ? D’OH !

        • It is direct quote from her mothers book…

          “She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and changes the atmosphere in a landfill.”

          • Read the whole translated section. The explanation seems plausible.

            Even if it is backpedaling, her mother and publisher do not NOW say that Greta can literally see CO2 and Greta never made such a statement. I accept their explanation.

          • @R Shearer

            Her mother said she can see it with the naked eye. If you need extra explanation to understand what that means then i suggest you have a comprehension problem.

            Her publicist is quite obviously covering up this insanity to restore her credibility. You normally sound like a smart man. You’ve got a brain – use it.

        • I don’t think so. I think it’s backpedaling. They got caught making an irrational statement and are now doing damage control.

    • The hypocrisy of your first paragraph is very telling. The behaviour you described is by far more common from warmists. Anyone who DARES utter a different opinion when it comes to climate change is viciously attacked, their character besmirched and harassed. The ad hominem is the last bastion of the desperate and the warmists are very desperate.

      As for Greta. She has stepped onto the world stage proclaiming that we need to make very serious changes and laying down baseless accusations. She clearly wants to be taken seriously, as do you, so therefore she must be held to account and answer serious questions. Hiding behind her “disabilities” or she’s a child to avoid criticism is just plain cowardice. Remember we are not the ones using a child – disabilities or not – to push a ideological point of view that will have far reaching consequences for all of us. Only dictatorships and cults do that.

      Furthermore even with autism – which is a disability in some cases – she has not uttered a single sentence that could be described as constructive or sensible. I don’t see why we should be silenced and bullied simply because the warmists have no moral integrity and are utterly spineless in their contempt for free thinkers who will no bow to their every whim.

    • @simon

      Do let us know when the planet and deserts stop greening and the world stops producing record and bumper harvests year in year.

      Here to help you-

      Agriculture yields are up- https://ourworldindata.org/yields-and-land-use-in-agriculture#yields-since-1960.

      Poverty has decreased- https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts.

      Life expectancy has increased- https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy.

      Deaths from weather related disasters have declined- https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-disaster-death-rates?time=1900..2018.

    • Simon.

      It is a “different mode of thinking” that can lead us into gross error, as it obviously has in this case.
      Nor is “empathy” a distinguishing characteristic of Aspergers… in fact it is something with which we have particular difficulty.
      Nor is articulation, another distinctive weakness we share.

      She may be gifted intellectually – that is not uncommon – but the frequent corollary is a bad case egotism, the belief that you are too smart to have to listen to anyone else.

      Sound familiar?

    • We bring data to the fight. They can attack it, but won’t. They bring a delusional, emotional sixteen-year old. It is difficult to fight her facts when she has none. Her delusions and emotions are the only targets offered

      It’s a bit like opponents who hide behind children. You do not want to harm to the children, but can not let the opponents win. That shameful situation was created by the immorality of the opponents.

      • So let’s take the higher ground, and be completely extremist in attacking her pseudonymously

  30. There are really only two groups that use children like this – dictatorships or cults.

    I just feel pity for her, she is a victim of child abuse, I mean being brought up with the constant fear inflicted upon her by her parents that she will die horribly by the age of thirty because of CC is just plain evil. However her being bandied around like she’s the second coming seems to have further reinforced a set of pathological behaviours pushed upon an impressionable girl by adults, and what we see is the culmination of a life time of abuse. I admire her conviction, but it’s deeply misplaced and we should call the adults that manipulate her for what they are – evil.

  31. Why doesn’t she hold her breath? Since she is able to see the vast amount of CO2 she exhales, the solution is simple.

  32. The case of Greta might very well be a demonstration of the ability of parents to “act out” through their children, not by verbal instructions or coercion, but by nonverbal clues, projection and off-loading.

    Now the field of clinical psychology is a minefield with many half theories and unproven therapies, some of them becoming religious in their nature (with regards to organizing mind and matter, goal and meaning). But the idea that children can act out whatever is moving inside the minds of parents or parental figures, that they could act as “sponge” and spit our some poison when the mental sponge is being saturated: I don’t think is being disputed across the board.

    It’s in that light that the picture of Greta and all the information about her and her parents becomes rather coherent. The shocking thing then is that so many people, like all the supporters, made the decision not to question this setup. They should know better! This is not how life works. Are people now start abandoning the wisdom of their own life experiences and their critical mind when Climate is the topic? I guess they do.

  33. the tantrum when she realises its been a con and she wont be famous for any bar reasons of ridicule…
    will be epic

  34. Amazing this girl and her mother can see CO2 but can’t see that the planet and deserts are greening and the tropical forests are greening more due to the increase in CO2.

    • Seeing is actually a conversion of energy. Lightwave converted to electrical impulses within the optic nerve and off to the brain. Seeing is the act of creation and invention within the brain. As this article points out once your’e in there, who know’s what crap is added into the mix.

  35. I’ve written a few things about Greta over the last few months. Even about Ingmar Rentzhog, the PR man behind her and a henchman for Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project. She started protesting the same week the so called “family” book was published.

    I came across this quote a few months ago which is completely delusional unless she’s the second coming.

    “Greta is able to see what other people cannot see, She can see carbon dioxide with the naked eye. She sees how it flows out of chimneys and changes the atmosphere in a landfill.”

    That said, if anyone knows anything about the occult and the all seeing eye used by the elite you will recognise this for what it is. Just like all the other pawns who use the exact same symbolism. Doesn’t matter if you believe in it or not, its those that do that should be of concern with as it’s all over the world. It’s a message to the world and acknowledges who really is behind her.

    https://video-images.vice.com/_uncategorized/1556033297985-356-COVERGreta.jpeg

  36. As a historian there feels more than a few similarities to Joan of Arc here. And once Joan’s usefulness was over she was abandoned as I fear that dupe Greta will.

  37. “I am indeed ”deeply disturbed” about the fact that these hate and conspiracy campaigns are allowed to go on and on and on just because we children communicate and act on the science. Where are the adults?”

    That’s remarkably mature and fluent English for a “child” whose first language is not English, and who has been brought up in a non-English speaking country. One might almost wonder if she actually wrote it herself.

    • Greta has very good language skills. Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner (sea level) is Swedish and has the most wonderful boarding school English. My own spoken English is said not to be too bad either, although I am born Denmark. Greta’s English may very well be her own – I believe it is.

    • “…just because we children communicate and act on the science. Where are the adults?”

      Just when and what “science” has she communicated? That CO2 is not an invisible gas? It’s been claimed that she was speaking metaphorically and not literally. That sounds more like a cover for something stupid she had said. But even if true then the poor kid has added CO2-phobia and/or a type of paranoia triggered by the thought of CO2 to her other mental issues.

    • Because if there’s one thing that inspires suspicion, it’s a precocious Scandinavian kid with good English.

  38. Hmm.

    I made a comment here about an hour ago. It was awaiting moderation for a while, but has now disappeared. It was not controversial – no more so than some of the comments above. My email address was correct – I have been receiving email updates to this post ever since.

    Is there some reason why my post has been deleted?

  39. “I have never seen a girl so young and with so many mental disorders treated by so many adults as a guru” Check history. As I recall, most “gurus” were mentally ill people. As the article states, the mentally ill have a certainty that a rational person does not and should not. That’s what draws people to them. People hate reality and will follow fantasy to the death, literally.

    The “Asperger’s” BS. What a politically correct farce using a fake “illness” to allow the people to be worshipped. The girl’s diagnoses seems politically motivated (I immediately despise anyone who flaunts “my Aspergers” as a badge of their idiocy in believing in political lies and unscientific garbage.) However, you can’t criticize her now because just like race, NO ONE can ever question an Asperberger’s person, with their free plane rides (not Greta, of course), extra money from the government and saint-like position in society. Honestly, no matter what she says, I stopped caring at “Asperbergers” and will NEVER listen to her. EVER.

  40. Search “CO2 pollution” in Google Images and you will find hundreds of shots of….water vapour billowing out of cooling towers. Usually backlit, (or photoshopped) to make the white cloud appear black, more in keeping with the “carbon emissions” meme, (by itself a subtley racist strategy?) it is not surprising that Greta would think she can see it.
    If the 8th grade Swedish science teacher who scared her speechless for a year, was following the elementary school curriculum guides from NOAA to describe CO2 as “an invisible gas produced by dead animals and rotting plants” this could be described as “triggering” abuse? https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46347453

  41. I don’t know maybe she is right. When you look at her post graduate education, the amount of research she has done and all the published papers she has written……..oh, wrong Greta.

  42. Expect to see more articles pointing out Greta’s ‘Frailties ? Its normal operating procedure for the media, build em up, to knock em down. The real surprise, or wonder here, must be that the parents of this unfortunate child lacked the guile to see they were placing their daughter in a position whereby whatever psychological problems she has, stand to be greatly enhanced by her rise and inevitable fall.

  43. With every passing day this whole climate crisis thing looks more and more like a religious passion story. In days gone by, flocks of people rushed to see and touch a person, usually young and female, who had experienced “the rapture” and who gushed with a desire to share it.

  44. I am indeed ”deeply disturbed” about the fact that these hate and conspiracy campaigns are allowed to go on and on and on just because we children communicate and act on the science. Where are the adults? – Greta

    She should’ve stopped at “I am indeed ”deeply disturbed”” – the true premise of her marching orders.

    Indeed, can this statement even be hers, because what 16-year-old really talks like that?

    They are training people to say “how high?” when Greta says jump.

    Let’s be clear – “she” is [they are] throwing down the gauntlet to parents, media, and govt everywhere:

    1) Opposition to Greta is hate organized into a conspiracy campaign

    2) This hateful conspiracy campaign is presently allowed to go on and on [attacking children]

    3) Children who communicate and act on climate change.

    4) Adults are called on to protect these children and hence the planet from the hateful conspiracists.

    She communicates to children that they are noble and right to promote ‘climate action’, while any disagreeable adults even their parents are to be dismissively opposed and labelled hateful conspiracists.

    She communicates to the media and governments that Queen Greta expects a royal red-carpet welcome and dissenters are to be silenced. No tough questions. It gives permission to openly oppose and stop the accused hateful conspiracists who are presently ‘allowed to go on and on’.

    Her clear implication is hateful conspiracists, those who oppose climate action, must not be allowed to ‘go on and on’, ie, they must be stopped.

    It is a call to WAR. Psychological warefare. Greta is a well-coached clever agitprop pysop.

    The warmists are openly using “deeply disturbed” little girls like Greta and “deeply disturbed” big girl AOC to fight their war and to shield themselves from critics. All is fair in love and war, right?

    The warmists also never fail to use summer heatwaves and melting ice to push their propaganda.

    When cold/snow records occur they ignore them in lieu of reporting even more scare-mongering climate propaganda instead, to take the mind off the cold, to hypnotize the public with endless dramatic spell-binding stories of some prophesized near-future “human-induced” catastrophic warming calamity.

    I expect the upcoming severe NH winter will change a lot of minds against Greta, AOC, and company, which will only send them deeper into “deeply disturbed” mode. Watch what happens – as it gets colder they will propagandize ever more stridently while demanding you believe them and act now accordingly.

  45. I don’t think one should be concerned at all about her physical or mental state. She is as she is – and she cannot be blamed for that, and neither can her parents. Don’t shoot the messenger. She has every right to state her opinions – and we should just comment on and criticise those opinions. Her looks, her age and her mental state is of no consequence. And the fact that so many dimwits fall for her charisma is their problem.

    • Kids have every right to express their opinions but then they have to eat all their dinner, do their homework and get off to bed at the right time. Furthermore professional entertainers and promoters should know not to work with kids and animals like this. That’s for Sesame Street, Disney and the RSPCA and knowing your categories. Furthermore I’ll decide whether the teenage daughter is going off for a sleepover to stay up late watching Scream movies and not some other delinquent parents. They don’t like then get a job move out and pay the usurious Green power bills Miss Smartypants.

    • Don’t try and get between the digital pitbulls and their meat with logic and reason.

  46. Some folks reckon that throwing yourself out of an aeroplane and pulling a ripcord helps to remove many of the fears of life. Something to do with having to put total trust in a parachute and undoubtedly dying if it fails to open.

    Of course, all aeroplanes are evil in Ms Thunberg’s eyes, but one flight is not going to flip the earth into a firestorm of world record heat.

    Maybe she should be told to jump, thrown out if necessary, and see how she feels after a bout of free fall? Maybe her eating phobias, her depressions etc will become a thing of the past.

    At the very least, she could tell some climate skeptics that she had actually up close to atmospheric gases at 12,000ft or however high jumps in Sweden occur from.

  47. On the bright side, at least she hasn’t glued herself to anything.

    and she doesn’t think she’s Napoleon

  48. Certainty is the providence of fools…

    I’m always amazed at those who are so sure of their beliefs…and when they are shown to be incorrect, they twist the issue to say that what they said wasn’t what they said…

  49. Greta needs to search YouTube for “Greenpeace Angry Kid”, to see her angry predecessor from 12 years ago. The alarmists love to use children, and fill their little heads with scary predictions.

    • Except in hot air balloons powered by … hmm … propane? methane? alcohol? … can’t think of a non-carbon, non-green house gas producing fuel to supply the hot air.
      Scream at the sky?

    • Good man. Any other ad hominem you and your buddies would like to throw at the 16 year old behind her back?

  50. There are some huge misconceptions about autism in the post and the comments. I agree that autistics can hyperfocus on a subject and can have very rigid thinking. However, the way in which she is being attacked makes me uncomfortable. She doesn’t have a mental disorders, she just thinks differently to neurotypical people. I don’t believe in her views myself, but I don’t think the constant insinuations and poorly understood facts about autism are fair or intelligent. I am writing this as an autistic. Incidentally, the terms Asperger’s and High Functioning Autism are outdated. It’s not a disease or a disability (although there are co-conditions which can lead to disability). I hope that this inspires people to educate themselves. Many thanks

  51. Greta is the sacrificial lamb who takes on all the doubt and guilt of the gullible and suffers for it.
    You could found a religion on that.

    I wonder what Africans make of her. A green Messiah? Or white privileged and well off women who tells them that they, the Africans, can not aspire to the same standard of living; just as in the good’ ol colonial days?

  52. Good on you Greta, there is no debate, climate change is real and man made and could be devastating to our planet. I only respect the opinion of 99 percent of real climate scientists like you, the deniers are ratbags.

  53. From the article: “But Thunberg has something very rare as well — a sense of absolute certainty. She shows not the slightest doubt and forgives not the slightest compromise.”

    That sounds like AOC (Rep. Ocasio).

  54. Thunberg’s eyes are disturbing. Her eyes are ruthless slits. They tell you all you need to know about this crazy little prophetess.

    • And right here, ladies and gentlemen, Exhibit A for just how batspit the criticism of this kid gets.
      And yet you’re all saying this is overblown, are you?

      • Sorry but I have zero patience for her. The fact that you’re going around criticizing every single post 4 days after most of the posters have moved on doesn’t make you look particularly smart either. Face it, Greta acts immature for 16, spouts nonsense and is surrounded by a bunch of people who are using her willingly to further their very dangerous views. If you don’t see this then you don’t want to see it. And your criticism of the critics is not coming across as you think. Would have had more respect for you if you had stopped after your first post.

  55. Any normally adjusted adults would know that to deal with a kid who is being used like this: you don’t attack the kid like the misanthropes and keyboard-shriekers here. Either from a base of simple civility, or simple expediency, a prudent person “just asks questions” (like Joe Bastardi), or frames the response truthfully but respectfully – as a good teacher does; or, if necessary, frames criticism in response to her adult enablers with sympathy to her.

    But based on manifest behaviour, most of the comments here are not from well-adjusted adults. Ironically, perhaps charitably, some of the board-culture may be symptomatic of the kind of disorder she herself deals with.

    • Just to further my previous statement, maybe you forgot this is just a board. No one is speaking to Greta directly. They are just expressing their views regarding her statements and behavior. You are assuming that what they are saying on this board is what they would say to the teenager if they came face to face with her, and I’m sure you’re doing it to try to shame people. Give it a break you’re not convincing anyone

  56. I must admit to having a great deal of sympathy with young Greta, not because I agree with anything she stands for, but because she is a near-perfect doppelganger for my very favorite granddaughter when she was that age. Also, like many others, I believe she is a victim of the exploitations by the adults surrounding her and managing her PR. That being said I’m quite tired of the endless parade of just so precious children used to block the possibility of counterargument to their adult handlers’ hysterical nonsense.

    Unfortunately, I fear that however the history of this folly finally plays out the future climate battlefield will be littered with the broken spirits and even possibly broken bodies of the multitude of adolescents sacrificed to their elders Socialist wet dreams.

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