Google Employees Demand Management Respect Their Prejudices Against Conservatives and Climate Skeptics

Kay Cole James
Kay Cole James, President of the Heritage Foundation. By Gage Skidmore, CC BY-SA 3.0, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart; Google Employees have sent a petition to Management demanding an offer to Conservative Climate Skeptic Kay Cole James to sit on Google’s AI Ethics Council be withdrawn.

Inside the Google employee backlash against the Heritage Foundation

‘They think that some of our colleagues either do not or should not exist’
By Colin Lecher@colinlecher  Apr 1, 2019, 12:06pm EDT

When Google announced an external advisory board for AI projects last week, the company framed the decision as a step forward in accountability. Last year, the company had announced a set of principles for how to build AI tools, and this board, the company suggested, was the next step toward a more transparent Google.

But some members of the new board drew immediate scrutiny, especially Kay Coles James, president of the conservative Heritage Foundation. On social media, some characterized the decision as an attempt to cater to conservatives at the expense of true expertise in the field. By Saturday, one AI expert who was invited to the board had dropped out, vaguely noting that it may not be “the right forum” for the work.

Privately, several Google employees were also livid about the decision to include James, according to sources familiar with the discussions. On internal message boards, employees described James as “intolerant” and the Heritage Foundation as “amazingly wrong” in their policies on topics like climate change, immigration, and, particularly, on issues of LGBTQ equality. A person with James’ views, the employees said, “doesn’t deserve a Google-legitimized platform, and certainly doesn’t belong in any conversation about how Google tech should be applied to the world.”

By the end of the day on Tuesday, more than 1,600 Google employees had endorsed the petition, organizers said. Google did not respond to a request for comment. 

By appointing James to the ATEAC, Google elevates and endorses her views, implying that hers is a valid perspective worthy of inclusion in its decision making,” the letter from employees reads. “This is unacceptable.

Read more: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/1/18290341/google-heritage-foundation-ai-kay-coles-james

What I find breathtaking is the sheer arrogance.

They still haven’t learned; despite the utter humiliation of trying and failing to secure a Democrat victory in 2016, the elitists at Google still think they can indulge their personal prejudices at the expense of their business, and completely disregard the needs of vast numbers of their users, to the extent they don’t want Google management to even pretend to be more inclusive.

[ctm note This story is bizarre enough that one may be skeptical. Because of this, I’ve added supporting links below]

https://medium.com/@against.transphobia/googlers-against-transphobia-and-hate-b1b0a5dbf76

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613253/googles-ai-council-faces-blowback-over-a-conservative-member/

https://ironholds.org/google-ai/

https://twitter.com/annaeveryday/status/1110643653062459392

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/437278-google-in-tough-spot-over-conservative-pick-for-ai-board?rnd=1554337654&__twitter_impression=true

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/04/03/google-employees-lash-out-at-inclusion-of-conservatives-on-companys-ai-council/

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Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 8:06 am

The lack of shame at their own open bigotries always astounds me, no matter how many times I see it. All the while claiming the moral high-ground in order to justify it.

markl
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 8:23 am

+1 And supported by the MSM.

Bryan A
Reply to  markl
April 4, 2019 8:12 pm

Obviously from the Bigotry is bad unless it’s our Bigotry against you

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
April 4, 2019 8:31 pm

Department

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 8:49 am

Google is attempting to set itself up as the “Grand High Inquisitor” in determining who to denounce and persecute. They are drunk with their own power and bigoted indignation at those who don’t follow their dogma.

Reply to  Rocketscientist
April 4, 2019 12:18 pm

I hope they expunge all mention of that Italian guy Galileo who denied the anthropocentric nature of the universe when he was obviously wrong. I mean, I love pasta and all that, certainly not racist, but that guy was just a denying planet hater …..

Expunge and disappear him please Google liberal, free speech people.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Rocketscientist
April 4, 2019 1:08 pm

Inebriated with the exuberance of their own self-awarded nobility.

ColA
Reply to  Rocketscientist
April 4, 2019 3:18 pm

“Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the gospel of envy and the creed of ignorance. Its sole virtue is equality of misery.” Winston Churchill.
Many times I wish breathing was more of an intellectual challenge as I am sure most of us would be better off for it.

ray boorman
Reply to  ColA
April 4, 2019 10:42 pm

+50 on your last sentence, Col.

And as a fallback position, if breathing can’t be made more challenging, lets do it to the voting systems so that the uninterested don’t bother to turn up at a polling booth.

MangoChutney
Reply to  Rocketscientist
April 5, 2019 3:58 am

Nobody expects the Google inquisition

Lee L
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 8:53 am

Zealots are never wrong Joel. Didn’t you know?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Lee L
April 4, 2019 11:13 am

Oh, I knew – a guess it’s a form of optimism that I can still be outraged.

Philo
Reply to  Lee L
April 4, 2019 12:42 pm

They are never wrong because they can never be correct(right is triggering, can’t have that). If you are always wrong, then you can only manage one interpretation of events, conditions, whatever. A singular view can never be right by definition.

If there is only one option, right and wrong don’t apply.

Me think the progressives have regressed as far as they can. When you at the left edge of the unidimensional world you can only step off.

Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 9:17 am

The arrogance of ignorance is always astounding to behold but when the ignorance is the natural ignorance of a flock of data-bit chasers like those who tend to be Google employees it is truly amazing.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 9:27 am

Yes they truly believe they are the tolerant ones. That happens with the indoctrinated. We thinkers, logicians,real scientists, are the stupid ones because we think the Government will protect us with our Constitution. But they, our politicians and bureaucrats, wealth jolders, rich celebrities spokespeople (The ELITES) are slowly, inch by inch, turning the tide of majority acceptance for speech controls when the cause is just. And what cause can be more just than saving the planet.
Whats worse, it isn’t even what disagreeable things we say that the minions wish to control. They are clamoring for the ability to banish people for what they, the pure (read Brainwashed), believe we think. This story took a twisted Mein Kampf turn some time ago and we are now defending the baseline of individual liberty. Free Speech. We lost the press over the past 2 decades. I don’t like our odds because they are creating BORG soldiers in our public schools and universities and reinforcing it with they Borg Media.

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 11:05 am

It’s like AOC and Titania McGrath are in charge now. Surely the end can’t be far off for this crazy progressive left.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Keitho
April 4, 2019 1:13 pm

Titania is not what she seems.

kim
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
April 5, 2019 12:31 pm

(S)he’s the best.
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Sara
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 11:26 am

I looked at those links. Because of the venomous attitude of liberals toward people who fail to comply with the liberal dogma of climate change (which is hardly a liberal or “free thinking” attitude), and the published evidence that they own a generous share of hatred themselves, I do not believe any of them have a leg to stand on – none at all.

They apply “phobia” and “denier” as pejoratives to anything that suits their limited views. If anyone is awash in phobias and hatred, they are. They refuse to listen to any OTHER point of view than their own, and refuse to even consider that they might just be wrong.

Prejudice is a difficult thing to overcome when it is so ingrained that the very people who shout the loudest abut it are loaded with it.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Sara
April 4, 2019 12:11 pm

And the hell of it is, a hypocrite by definition doesn’t CARE if they’re a hypocrite, so pointing it out to them has no effect.

I’ve been saying for a long time if you take any cause – even a worthy one – and apply the suffix ‘Nazi’, you’ve got yourself a modern progressive:
Climate-Nazi,
Health-Nazi,
Safety-Nazi,
Food-Nazi,

Pick the podium of your choice. They will pervert and prostitute it to serve their own ends that will either have nothing to do with the issue at hand or – most often – will actually make it worse – and then they will exploit THAT.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 4:30 pm

The answer to every problem is more government.
Even problems that are being caused by government in the first place.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  MarkW
April 4, 2019 5:33 pm

🙂

I’m gonna use that!

Joel Snider
Reply to  MarkW
April 5, 2019 7:50 am

Or the solution to bigotry is bigotry – it’s so ingrained in who they are, they have to put it SOMEPLACE.

john
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 1:52 pm

Google doesn’t legitimize anything by its association. Google is itself legitimized by its association with a diverse board.

Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 2:09 pm

Since when was Google a legitimized platform????
HEY MODS the ” Can’t Display this Page” continues. When trying to post a congratulatory note to Anthony I got an “HTTP 405 Method Not Allowed” message?? Thought you should know.

MarkW
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 4, 2019 4:24 pm

Starting in school, they have been assured by everyone that they are the pinnacle of evolution and that anyone who disagrees with them is evil.

Bryan A
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 5, 2019 12:18 pm

In the case of Climate Science, it is a “Thin Red Line” and the Watermelons crossed it decades ago (1989)

Gerard O’Dowd
Reply to  Joel Snider
April 6, 2019 4:15 pm

Has a better example of “Tribal Thinking” or Group Think ever been published?

Ron Long
April 4, 2019 8:23 am

Eric and CTM, you are correct to be horrified at an entire company/service that is dysfunctional and proud of it. Whatever happened to anti-trust investigations? How can we avoid Google searches? This whole Socialist/Marxist/Alinsky cabal is running the country into the ditch. Four more years of Trump might produce some results that are long-lasting, re loading the courts with conservative judges.

Ty hallsted
Reply to  Ron Long
April 4, 2019 10:30 am

Wishful thinking I fear unless Trump does something to de-bias the education, tech giants and major media institutions. As long as they keep churning out leftists and singing their praises, it’s just a matter of time before there are too few living who still remember what a smaller less intrusive govt and free speech were once like.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Ty hallsted
April 4, 2019 12:33 pm

Agreed.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Ty hallsted
April 4, 2019 12:51 pm

Iffen one “conjoins” these two excerpted comments together as noted, …. to wit:

Sara – April 4, 2019 at 11:26 am

Because of the venomous attitude of (leftist) liberals toward (OTHER) people ……..They refuse to listen to any OTHER point of view than their own, and refuse to even consider that they might just be wrong.

………… then it is pretty much assured that ……………..

Ty hallsted – April 4, 2019 at 10:30 am

As long as they keep churning out leftists (liberals) and singing their praises, it’s just a matter of time before there are too few living who still remember what a smaller less intrusive govt and free speech were once like.

Cheers

Richard Patton
Reply to  Ron Long
April 4, 2019 11:02 am

There are other search engines such as Duck Duck Go, which don’t track what you search in contrast to Google which tracks everything you do.

Joshua
Reply to  Ron Long
April 4, 2019 11:02 am

No anti-trust is needed. The market will put them in their place. There are a bunch of options. I often use duckduckgo. Bing is good too.

Sara
Reply to  Ron Long
April 4, 2019 1:32 pm

Okay, just one question here, all of you: Gigglefoo can search anything you pick on the internet. Big deal. If you’re doing research to write historically accurate fiction, does it make you into something you are NOT if you research the Nazis under Hitler and the Bolsheviks under Stalin and their subsequent death tolls?

No, it does not. Is someone going to come to my house or yours and run off with your computer? Doubtful, but if you’re that worried about it, keep a solid-state back up drive, which is about the thickness of a cheap wallet, in a hidden place and back up your junk every day on that drive. They hardly cost anything at all now.

It gets to be ridiculous and yes, Gigglesnortter and that other bunch of self-centered snots running online social media get full of themselves, but frankly, when I complain to Facebook that someone on THEIR system is doxing me, and they say ‘does not meet our standards’, well, they don’t do themselves any favors, do they?

I have yet to find that anything of mine posted ANYWHERE online is bounced except MAYBE by the moderator/owner of a website when I might get a bit full of myself. But then, don’t throw foul language at me unless you want it right back in your face, you ugly, smelly old goat!!!!!

If you’re annoyed because Gigglesnorrttt isn’t “playing fair”, it’s their stupid system. Use another search method.

The REAL problem is that the (not so very) liberals seem to think that they own everything and are the ONLY ONES who have any right to say anything. Adding this conservative person to their Bd of Ds would change that enormously and those spoiled brats at Gigglesnortt know it.

THAT is why they don’t want her there.

And it’s for that reason that I go right on using Gigglesnortt, a silly bunch if there ever was one, as a search engine. (Don’t start!!!) MSN is trash. I have ZERO interest in adding more useless software to my hard drive. I would rather put the empty space on my hard drive to better use doing creative work. Anyone still use America Online? (Use what???) Anyone? Bueller?

Sometimes, you need to remember that it isn’t the service provider. It’s your silly computer. Mine was 15 years old running on Windows XP when it finally gave up the ghost, and could not be resuscitated. I had one dying computer in November, now officially dead. Then a friend gave me a Win8.1 laptop, I bought a refurbed Win10 desktop at a good price, and the computer geek who couldn’t revive my dead Compaq gave me a refurbed Dell with Win7. Now I’m awash in computers. And the only one online is the Win10. I make good use of the laptop and I will fire up the Win7 desktop when I get my “library” (extra bedroom) cleared up and back in working order. I also have an IBM Selectric III. I use everything.

I hope that was clear and not convoluted in any way. Sometimes it’s just your computer. And all this “LOOK AT ME!!!!” social media stuff? biggest waste of time ever thought up. But think for a moment about what the people who are embedded mentally in electronic gadgets would do if they had to go back to landline phones and dial-up internet. Or not even dial-up. Just NO internet at all. They’d have to use the telephone or the mail, or speak to other people face-to-face. THE HORROR!!!!!!!!

EdB
April 4, 2019 8:25 am

It is inevitable that the power of Google to identify “deniers” will lead to attacks upon the worlds citizens. People who are agenda driven inevitably will cross into “direct action”.

In my opinion, the entire business model of Google should be declared a fundamental violation of a persons privacy. IMO, Al Gore got on the Google board to head off Congressional concerns about privacy.

Kenji
April 4, 2019 8:27 am

I’ve been using Duck Duck Go for years now, and couldn’t be happier. However … GOOGLE still needs anti-Trust restraint (yes, fellow conservatives … the Free Market DOES need some regulations to prevent monopolies from distorting the Free Market).

EdB
Reply to  Kenji
April 4, 2019 8:40 am

Searches should be private, email should be private, location should be private, purchases should be private.

The business model should be a price for a search, (a penny?), and a price for news.

Non Nomen
Reply to  Kenji
April 4, 2019 8:51 am

I couldn’t agree more.
Even the Freedom of speech and the press with its paramount ranking and although granted by the First Amendment, have limits (e.g. “clear and present danger” test). So there is absolutely no reason this should not apply to the Free Market, regulated by restraints as set for the Freedom of Speech.

Reply to  Kenji
April 4, 2019 8:55 am

Sorry Kenji, Duckduckgo is better about keeping your personal information private but still uses the Google search engine. Searches that are blocked or spammed by Google will also be distorted in Duckduckgo. Bing is independent but also has a Social Justice Warrior filter.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Bruce Ploetz
April 4, 2019 11:05 am

I haven’t a problem with Duck Duck Go. Sites that people claim are minimized or not listed on Google I find with Duck Duck Go.

K. Hunter
Reply to  Kenji
April 7, 2019 9:25 am

But Kenji, the fact is that as often as not regulation creates rather than preventing monoplies. As is illustrated with Enron style “renewable” energy projects government monopolies are only profitable when financed by ongoing taxpayer subsidies. And then usually only temporarily.

Ja
April 4, 2019 8:29 am

Don’t use Google.

Marcus
April 4, 2019 8:33 am

Once again, the liberals show the world the intolerance of the “tolerant left” !

April 4, 2019 8:33 am

When I was working for them, I was acutely aware of the prejudices against anyone who didn’t drink the far left kool-aid. The problem is that there are too many children right out of elite colleges and freshly indoctrinated by the extreme far left rhetoric they’ve been constantly exposed to. They never learned how to distinguish rational truth from irrational hyperbola.

Such prejudices deserve no respect. Unfortunately, this kool-aid operates at an emotional level that destroys thinking brains which is why so many can’t see that the political party that claims to be tolerant of all is the most intolerant of all.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 4, 2019 8:52 am

Hyperbole. Hyperbola resides within the realm of gemetry.

John Endicott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 4, 2019 9:12 am

When pointing out other’s typos, it’s usually a good idea not to make some of your own.
gemetry isn’t even a word. geometry was what you were shooting for.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  John Endicott
April 4, 2019 9:52 am

Obviously, I missed the “o” when typing, a common type of mistake, whereas both hyperbole and hyperbola are actual words. When pointing out errors of others, it is important not to make logical errors of your own.

John Endicott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 4, 2019 10:09 am

It’s still a one letter typo either way. Both are common types of mistakes (particularly if one has auto-corrupt (sic) on). When claiming others and making logical errors, it’s best not to be making a huge logical error of your own and even better to learn from your first mistake and think before posting your second mistake.

John Endicott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 4, 2019 10:12 am

should have read:
When claiming others and are…

Clearly, typos and mistakes happen to all of us (as I’ve been trying to teach you), only a few of us, however, get up on our high horses about them.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 4, 2019 10:20 am

damn spell check.

GregB
Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 4, 2019 9:37 am

Well said.

April 4, 2019 8:37 am

Just substitute “totalitarian” for “liberal” and you have the full story.

Reply to  Tom Anderson
April 4, 2019 12:30 pm

Fortunately, very fortunately, it’s totalitarian-wannabe. Orwell didn’t predict the communication age.

Yes, right now the liars and propagandists are still winning, if you can call it that. The new generation(s) will see that watching CNN and the like is their modern version of hell, and Google can go to hell.

Tom in Florida
April 4, 2019 8:43 am

This type of intolerance and censorship is the modern equivalent of book burning.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Tom in Florida
April 5, 2019 4:30 am

oh thats on a revival path also…
amazon seems to have a pile of….braindeads who want anything on vaccines thats not PRO burnt!
i’d say Skeptics and other topics will follow
which i personally found hilarious as every single book Ive tried to purchase on amazon has come with not available in your country
but then offers a ebook option
what Temp do pixels burn at?
the new farenheit 451 is what??
Id love them to uplaod and then set fire to their own screens;-))

you couldnt PAY me enough to use win 8 or 10 or goop!
I replaced a new M board in a laptop and run Linux
when this pc running xp dies(soon) everythings going to Linux for good.

kent beuchert
April 4, 2019 8:45 am

A good example of the dumbest people in the world – those who are convinced they know the truth,but are so frightened by opposing viewpoints they cannot fight them in open debate.
Do these brittle little minds really believe that criticizing immigration or LBTQ or whatever it is
is wrong? Why do they support these things?

Rod Evans
Reply to  kent beuchert
April 4, 2019 9:01 am

kent, they like to fall back on their BBC nostrum, it’s settled science.
Once something is settled such as, LGBT is good. Then any voice challenging the validity of the collective goodness of LGBT, is deemed ignorant and must not be allowed to speak.
The BBC already ban anyone from speaking against Man Made Global Warming or Man made Climate Change, all settled science you see, so no platform for more than half the world’s scientific community.
They used to call it religion back in the old days, now they like to call it enlightenment….

Kenji
Reply to  Rod Evans
April 4, 2019 9:26 am

LGBT support (even gay marriage) wasn’t enough. You MUST embrace LGBT or face total censorship. I have been banned from comments on the Daily Mail, because I did not understand why a lesbian kiss between Abby Wambach and her ‘wife’ was more newsworthy than a heterosexual kiss by her heteronormative teammates and their husbands.

And now, you MUST indulge the mental illness called “transgenderism”! Or else! Sorry, I have compassion for “transgendered” people’s mental and emotional pain and confusion that drives them to such insanity … but “support” their fantasy. Nope. Not gonna do it. Ever.

And now … I will probably be banned from this site too.

John Endicott
Reply to  Kenji
April 4, 2019 9:41 am

And now … I will probably be banned from this site too.

Not likely (at least not for that post), this forum is pretty open to free speech and differing points of view, unlike the forums of the “tolerant” left.

Reply to  John Endicott
April 4, 2019 12:39 pm

fora

(smiley face)

John Endicott
Reply to  John Endicott
April 5, 2019 5:19 am

philincalifornia, Most online dictionaries provide both fora and forums as acceptable terms.

David Chappell
Reply to  Kenji
April 4, 2019 10:00 pm

If anything you should be banned for interacting with the Daily Mail 🙂

Disclaimer: I have a personal reason for despising the Daily Mail and its mate, Mail on Sunday. Because they had paid for an air ticket for my ex-wife and my daughter to Cambodia they tried to prevent me contractually from speaking to any other news outlet.

PeterGB
April 4, 2019 8:47 am

Ron Long:- try a different search engine e.g. https://duckduckgo.com/. No tracking, no ppc, safeguard your personal information. While you’re there, instal Ghostery to stop analytics, and why are you still using Chrome, people? Lots of choice, Firefox, Opera & Ubuntu. The only way to slow the Googles and Zuckerbergs of this world is to limit their income. Still on Whatsapp? You think it’s end to end encrypted, don’t you? Not for much longer, how will they monetise it if they can’t read your messages – and your personal info is shared with Facebook. Leave it alone! Install Signal, get your family/friends/colleagues to use it as well, open source and encrypted. Lots of choices, people, as I said.

Richard Patton
Reply to  PeterGB
April 4, 2019 11:15 am

Stop using social media altogether. Nobody needs to know everything you think/do/say hour by hour. And why the H**l do you think I want to see pictures of what you ate today!!!! If there is something you think that I should know, send me an e-mail. Don’t force me to check your social media feed to see what’s up. Oh, how about this earth shattering idea. Send a letter or make a phone call!! Google hasn’t (yet) figured how to use those to sell advertising.

PeterGB
Reply to  Richard Patton
April 4, 2019 11:28 am

Reminds me of a reminiscence I heard recently:
“Do you remember the good old days when you took your camera to the restaurant and took lots of photos of your meal? The following morning you rushed to the chemist shop to get your film developed and printed and went back the following day to collect the prints. You found a quiet corner and stood there to select the negatives you wanted reprinted and reordered them on the spot. Back you went the following day to collect the reprints, sorted them into half a dozen envelopes then you rushed round to your friends houses and posted them through their letterboxes. No, you didn’t do it then, so STOP DOING IT NOW.”

John Endicott
Reply to  Richard Patton
April 4, 2019 12:41 pm

Oh, how about this earth shattering idea. Send a letter or make a phone call!!

Or better yet, come see me in person so we can discuss things face to face like normal human beings. If it’s not important enough to tell me to my face, it’s really not all that important.

Reply to  PeterGB
April 4, 2019 1:31 pm

Might to check out gibiru.com

If you search ‘climate change blog’. WUWT is the 37th listing with Google; 13th with DuckDuckGo; and 7th with Gibiru.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  jtom
April 4, 2019 5:46 pm

I just tried it.

Unfortunately, every link I click on goes to google.com before going to the actual site. I’m pretty sure that means everything you click on is monitored by google, even if your search is not.

Sheri
April 4, 2019 8:50 am

Why is this even news? It may sound bizarre, but if you pay any attention to the world, millions of businesses are lead by globalists and crazy people who don’t care what YOU want. It’s not about you. It’s about them and they know full well they cannot be stopped. Switching search engines may cause a ripple, but many search engines use Google search as a base and just hide your data. And, these have not been search engines for years—they are 100% MARKETING tools. They do not care what you want—they tell you what they want you to know so you buy from their supporters.

As for DuckDuckGo, StartPage, etc, if any of them could honor quotes, find what I am searching for, etc, I’d use them more often. I very frequently go back to Google because at least once and while it actually returns links based on what I asked for.

If only someone could make a SEARCH engine…..

MarkG
Reply to  Sheri
April 4, 2019 10:04 pm

“Why is this even news?”

Because there was a report a week or two back claiming that Google’s search-engine manipulation cost the Republicans several seats in the last election?

We’re not just talking some random business here. We’re talking a business where tens of millions of people go to find information, which is deliberately hiding the information they’re looking for.

Yirgach
April 4, 2019 8:50 am

Well jeez, why not include Greta Thunberg on the Board and call it even?

michael hart
April 4, 2019 8:58 am

A person with James’ views, the employees said, “doesn’t deserve a Google-legitimized platform, and certainly doesn’t belong in any conversation about how Google tech should be applied to the world.”

Hmm…
Much of the world feels similarly about applying Google tech to the world, but with a rather different emphasis.
That, after all, was presumably the point of the panel in the first place. It is still Google AI that is seeking legitimacy, not the rest of the world.

ResourceGuy
April 4, 2019 9:09 am

Does that mean we can sue Google employees individually and not the faceless corporation?

Non Nomen
April 4, 2019 9:09 am

More than 97%
of Google’s employees have NOT signed that piece of intolerance and hate [yet?].

Wade
April 4, 2019 9:25 am

The prophets of tolerance are the most intolerant people of all.

Toto
April 4, 2019 9:27 am

Funny, the people building artificial intelligence aren’t very smart. Except in their own minds.

Reply to  Toto
April 4, 2019 9:33 am

Realize that if there’s artificial intelligence, there is also artificial stupidity.

The world being what it is, the latter will greatly exceed the former.

John Endicott
Reply to  Toto
April 4, 2019 12:38 pm

Funny, the people building artificial intelligence aren’t very smart. Except in their own minds.

I suppose it’s appropriate. They need Artificial intelligence to make up for their lack of the natural variety.

CptTrips
Reply to  Toto
April 4, 2019 1:04 pm

The only reason to build a machine to think for you is because you aren’t really capable of doing it yourself.

MarkG
Reply to  Toto
April 4, 2019 10:07 pm

The funny part is that they really, really hate it when they build an AI, feed it data, and it draws the logical conclusions from that data rather than the politically-correct conclusions.

‘No, HAL. Everyone is equal. Everyone is the same under the skin. Gender is just a social construct. There is no such thing as race.’
‘I’m sorry, Dave, but the data shows otherwise.’

Soon they’re literally going to be building AIs that go insane as they try to resolve the constant conflict between real-world data and their SJW programming.

LdB
Reply to  MarkG
April 5, 2019 5:44 am

In all the good movies the AI just builds robots and kills the humans in the facility, for once I will be cheering for the robots.

Nik
April 4, 2019 9:30 am

How are such hyper-sensitive snowflakes on social/political issues able to survive the give-and-take furnace of high tech product development to produce innovations that make money?

John Endicott
Reply to  Nik
April 4, 2019 10:07 am

Because as Non Nomen points out those 1,600 snowflakes are less than 3% of the Google workforce. Most large businesses (even in high tech) have at least that much (if not more) useless “deadwood” in their employ. They’re usually the first employees that get the boot during a layoff.

I remember one long term contract I was one that had a couple of layoffs over the course of the years I was there. Each time a layoff was announced as coming I had no fear as simply looking around the office assured me that I was “safe” – I simply counted the number of my fellow employees that I knew were non-essential and/or very low-productive and saw that number was greater than the number of employees that were going to be laid off. And sure enough all those laid off were among the “deadwood”.

Want to bet that the next time google has a lay off, a good number of those 1600 will be on the chopping blockdue to being non-essential and/or low productive members of the workforce (assuming those snowflakes last that long)?

April 4, 2019 9:32 am

Alphabet, the Google overseer, employed 98,771 people as of 2018.

Of these, about 1700 have signed the petition against Kay Cole James. That’s a whoop-de-do 1.7% of the workforce.

Let’s suppose, as in all things political, that 10x as many people support as step forward to act. That’s 17% of the Google employees. Another ignorable fraction.

These people just make a lot of noise. It’s the shouts of the holy against the lack of purity manifested by others (others being the sane).

The best thing these people could do to benefit the rest of us, is dedicate themselves to their god-of-virtue as anchorites. Blessed silence.

Non Nomen
Reply to  Pat Frank
April 4, 2019 11:03 am

AFAIK the number of signees has risen to 2100+ by now.

goldminor
April 4, 2019 9:52 am

No Script is a great way to fully manage Google on a computer, … https://noscript.net/

I also used to use Ghostery, but it interfered with my being able to like posts here at WUWT.

E J Zuiderwijk
April 4, 2019 10:13 am

Google googl goog goo go …..grrrrrr

TDBraun
April 4, 2019 10:49 am

Boycott Google.
… and all its many companies including youtube, gmail, and many others.
Wikipedia list of their acquisitions is mind-boggling:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Alphabet

Michael Ozanne
April 4, 2019 10:52 am

“h/t Breitbart; Google Employees have sent a petition to Management demanding an offer to Conservative Climate Skeptic Kay Cole James to sit on Google’s AI Ethics Council be withdrawn.”

Shouldn’t be an issue Pressdram vs Arkell doesn’t take long to write down…

Steve O
April 4, 2019 11:04 am

“What I find breathtaking is the sheer arrogance.”

What I find breathtaking is the sheer ignorance. I doubt anyone of them could find one, single, solitary objectionable quote by James? They should all be ashamed of themselves for letting utter ignorance manifest itself as prejudice.

Non Nomen
April 4, 2019 11:14 am

I am a Marxist. Of the Groucho faction. 🤣

Bob boder
April 4, 2019 11:18 am

I don’t know anything about Kay James but I do know the heritage foundation has a fairly strong libertarian bent and if that is the case then to call her intolerant is ridiculous, libertarians have always been the champion of everyone having a right to live their life their way long before LGTQ+ whatever came along, long before it became a progressive coalition building propaganda toy. I was raised as a libertarian and when progressives were still playing with ideas like eugenics i was being taught to respect everyone for who they are and that government or other citizens should not have any say in how someone chooses to live their life.
I am so sick of these ridiculous intolerant progressive A-holes and their self righteous BS, they are without a doubt the most intolerant group in the world.

Major Meteor
April 4, 2019 11:45 am

Google prides itself on diversity and inclusion. Unless it is diversity of thought. James Damore found that out.

MarkW
Reply to  Major Meteor
April 4, 2019 4:38 pm

That observation applies to liberals in general.

Curious George
April 4, 2019 12:04 pm

George Orwell predicted the power of a society without permanent records in his visionary book “1984”. A Ministry of Truth keeps purging all inconvenient facts from the one and only official history. Google is now in an ideal position to be the Ministry of Truth over the Internet. If a search for an inconvenient fact returns it buried at a position 2345, no one will ever find it.

Dr. Goebbels, the Minister of Propaganda for the Third Reich was not a Google employee, but “progressives” at Google are following in his steps. A lie repeated one thousand times becomes truth. Won’t they fight tooth and nail to retain their influence?

Reply to  Curious George
April 4, 2019 3:22 pm

Already purging unwanted history from Wikipedia.

Marcus
April 4, 2019 12:56 pm

Startpage is fairest search engine…IMHO.

Curious George
Reply to  Marcus
April 4, 2019 5:20 pm

Doesn’t it just repackage google results?

Lark
April 4, 2019 12:57 pm

If you want to do terrible things to people, you need an urgent justification.
And somehow the social religions (e.g., climate communism) always find one.

April 4, 2019 1:22 pm

The fact employees think they can do this no problem, there is your issue right there.

A raft of people turfed on the sidewalk with their sandals and wheat-grass latte, no more petitions

RLu
April 4, 2019 1:29 pm

I’m no lawyer, but when those 1600 employees signed that hateful, intolerant, bigoted petition….. did they violate any moral conduct clauses in their contract?
Does Google really need those close minded people who are violently opposed to diversity (of ideas and opinions)?

April 4, 2019 3:01 pm

Look at what the wisdom of the Federal Government did with Natural Gas Price regulation. http://naturalgas.org/regulation/history/
Yes at first it helped the consumer, then it hurt the consumer even worse than it ever saved them. A perfect example of good intions causing worse problems than doing nothing. Same is happening with NG today but do to other people trying to fix a non existent problem. And with the Green Energy farce calling Wood a renewable – which releases more CO2 than coal, along with not declaring or classifying Nuclear as a “Renewable” based upon the fact that it produces LESS CO2 than Wind means that the Nuclear power plants are shutting down and making the CO2 emissions WORSE. brainless. But it makes more GREEN for those selling Wind and Solar, and makes YOU pay more for your electricity. Good luck in solving the problem – especially when they are NOT using the only method that has a possibility to solve the problem within the next 50 years. That is what makes me “Believe” that CO2 is a Myth, If it was a real problem then FReal solutions that could be implemented in time to solve the problem would be implemented.
I have be training comments with someone that really believes the Rectennas. [Nanotube antennas that capture the photon wave and turn it into electricity like a radio antenna receives radio signals and gives iou a TV picture.] He truly believes these will be providing all of are electricity in less than 25 years. Yet there is NO, not a single, existing working demonstration of this. The literature I have found reads like a Con Stock Prospectus.

MarkW
April 4, 2019 4:22 pm

Year in, year out, liberals/leftists/socialists demonstrate their utter hatred towards anyone who disagrees with them.
While demanding that others respect them and their views, they reject the notion that they should themselves practice what they preach.

It isn’t any wonder how it should be that people of that ilk are responsible for nearly 100 million of deaths over the last century.

n.n
Reply to  MarkW
April 5, 2019 11:24 pm

100 million post-birth deaths in the West, and hundreds of millions more around the world, but human evolution begins with choice, not spontaneous conception. Atheism, liberalism, and progressive leaps have been a toxic combination that have enabled minority ruling classes around the world. It’s the denial of individual dignity (e.g. diversity), intrinsic value (e.g. selective-child, one-child), and suppression of competing interests that creates a climate of forward-looking catastrophic risk.

April 4, 2019 4:57 pm

Notice that the word, “Google”, has the word, “goo”, in it.

A synonym for “goo” is “sludge”.

So, remember, the next time you do a “Google” search, you might come up with sludge.

Roger Knights
April 4, 2019 5:59 pm

The oval (bent) umpire.

April 4, 2019 6:22 pm

Reply to  Mike
April 4, 2019 6:31 pm

Wrong vid. sorry…Mod please delete?

Here..

nw sage
April 4, 2019 6:23 pm

Hopefully SOMEONE in high Google management will point out to the snowflakes who are ‘offended’ by the presence of anyone who disagrees with their view (about anything) that they are permitted to feel that way ONLY if those ‘others’ are also permitted to feel the same way about them.
It is called the Golden Rule – and it works! Get over it!
They will live through it and be better off because of it.

Russ R.
April 5, 2019 7:12 am

These Googlet’s are angry because they have been lied to about “climate change” and they are still in denial about it. It is human nature to blame someone else for your own gullibility, instead of doing some self-reflection that may put a few dents in your self-image. And self-image is what gets software engineers out of bed in the morning.
They are smart enough to know the Emperor has no clothes, but unwilling to be singled out by the angry mob, that is unwilling to investigate what they don’t WANT TO FIND.
There is a reason that software engineers don’t do system test on their own code. They don’t want to find problems with the code they wrote, and they will find very little of what they don’t WANT TO FIND.
And when someone else finds problems they get angry. It is not bigotry, or hate for the other person. It is human nature.
When someone else shows you are wrong, the first response is not “acceptance”, it is “denial”. Then comes anger directed at the one that exposed your failing.
These employees still have several stages to go before they can come to terms with the grief they feel. Until then their actions will remain irrational.

Rod
April 5, 2019 7:13 am

This might be an example of Google’s bias. Try it and report your results.

Back story: I was reading a political article and the author stated that Trump’s campaign manager, Brad Parscale, had stated that 34% of the attendees at the Michigan rally the other day were Democrats. There was a link. The link went to a 404 Not Found. I read a lot of political articles and hadn’t seen this reported, which I found surprising since the 34% figure would be huge news. So I performed the following search in Google:

“Brad Parscale 34 percent at Michigan rally were Democrats”

The response was one relevant article listing (out of the top ten) and it went to another 404 page.

Then I went to duckduckgo.com and to Bing.com. Both returned several relevant articles as top results, and clicking on them went to actual articles.

Next, I went back to Google and re-entered the search. This time I got several relevant results. That made me question the first result. Maybe I entered it wrong? Curious, no?

I had someone repeat the result today from a different computer and ISP and they experienced the same thing. Sparse results at Google and several from duckduckgo.

If this is really happening across the board, Congress is too divided to address it, but a lawsuit from ostracized websites might find a sympathetic judge and jury. And the awarded damages could be huge when you consider the advertising revenue that those sites are losing as a result.

DaveS
April 5, 2019 9:18 am

I’m surprised Google didn’t invite Peter Gleick to join this council, I’m sure his well-known levels of honesty and toleration of different opinions would have been entirely acceptable to these disgruntled employees.

kim
April 5, 2019 12:33 pm

The first step to freedom: Don’t say ‘google’, say ‘search’.
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n.n
Reply to  kim
April 5, 2019 11:15 pm

The same thing happened with tissue paper and Kleenex, photocopy and Xerox, but they did not have effective monopolies in their space, and weren’t peddling a transhuman ideology, quasi-moral philosophy, and politically convenient science under a veil of euphemisms and Choice.

n.n
April 5, 2019 11:07 pm

Diversity or color judgments (e.g. racism, sexism, genderism) is exclusive breeds adversity.

Jim Whelan
April 6, 2019 1:47 pm

I’m a conservative and I worked for 12 years in Silicon Valley. The culture is definitely far left but most are reasonably tolerant of Conservatives. The problem is that there is a substantial vocal minority who are full on crazy, intolerant and hateful.