“NOAA’s Brilliant Response To Trumps Climate Tweet” Was a Red Herring Fallacy

Guest logic by David Middleton

Jan 30, 2019, 10:24am

NOAA’s Brilliant Response To Trumps Climate Tweet

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The president tweeted on Monday “In the beautiful Midwest, windchill temperatures are reaching minus 60 degrees, the coldest ever recorded. In coming days, expected to get even colder. People can’t last outside even for minutes. What the hell is going on with Global Waming? Please come back fast, we need you!”

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Warmer SST’s leading  to more precipitation have Jack Schist to do with President Trump’s Tweet…

 

Young Trevor and the NOAA brain-trust are correct about one thing… The polar vortex does not disprove the global warming that has been occurring since the coldest temperatures of the Holocene: The Little Ice Age (LIA).

Andy May, WUWT Older is to the right.

In Central Greenland, one of Gorebal Warming’s many canaries in the coal mine, The LIA was just about as cold as the final Pleistocene glacial interstadial.

Data from Alley, 2000. Younger is to the right.
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PaulH
February 2, 2019 7:03 am

James Delingpole’s article is causing the Green Blob’s collective heads to explode 🙂

“Delingpole: The Frozen Hell Outside Your Window Is What Global Warming Looks Like”

http://www.breitbart.com/environment/2019/02/01/delingpole-the-frozen-hell-outside-your-window-is-what-global-warming-looks-like/

“Has the climate alarmism industry shown any contrition for its doomsday scaremongering about global warming? Absolutely none. Instead, it is doubling down…”

Dan Steward
February 2, 2019 7:12 am

Rah,
I’m not sure if your guestion was to me or a David, but I thought I would reply anyway. Actually most accumulations are not related to meteor impacts, but meteor impacts can be productive if they occur in a Basin with good mature source rock. Meteor impacts can create a lot of fracturing providing avenues for oil and gas to migrate upsection from the source rock. If it is large enough, ~2.0 mile crater, it will generally have a structural rebound high in the center of the crater and a crater rim that has rebounded creating a high. Subsequent deposition over these highs can form structural traps in porous rock for migrating hydrocarbons to accumulate in. I am by no means an expert, but this is a general description of what can happen.
The Ames hole in Oklahoma and the Chixalub (sp?) crater off of the Yucatán Peninsula in Mexico are examples of this. The Mexican impact is credited by Walter Alvarez ( his book “ T Rex and the Crater of Doom” is excellent reading) for the Cretaceous/ Tertiary boundary. Sorry for the long response.
Dan
PS: I personally don’t believe in man made global warming, it is a natural occurrence and we just have to deal with it.

Curious George
February 2, 2019 7:18 am

Cold weather is not climate. Only hot weather qualifies as climate.

February 2, 2019 8:32 am

NOAA’s tweet was not only a red herring, but a straw man as well. A sort of Red Straw Herring Man.
I can’t find any recent tweets from Donald Trump where he asserted that global warming isn’t happening. He merely made a joke that he would welcome a little higher temperature which is what alarmists have claimed would be the product of global warming.

Dipchip
February 2, 2019 9:24 am

I have been plotting avg annual Northern H. snow cover using Rutgers weekly snow data from 1972 thru 2018.

A linear trend line for the period shows a present day decrease in NH snow cover from 25.2 Million sq Km to 24.5 M sq Km.

https://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/files/wkcov.nhland.txt

Paramenter
February 2, 2019 1:02 pm

Hey Anthony,

That is NOT what I’m saying.

OK. NOAA is saying.

Yep, that explains where you’re coming from.

I’m writing from a bunker in Pyongyang laughing at Western ‘useful idiots’ who promote idea of global warming and subsequently radical de-industrialisation. Keep it going, fellas 😉

A reduction to polarisation of political viewpoint by way of confirming your worldview.

That was actually from Karl Popper. Unfortunately, more and more applicable to the current state of the climate science.

Yes indeed, pseudoscience is promulgated everyday on here.

Quite contrary – this blog is having humble input in demystifying climate science scare.

Pamela Gray
February 2, 2019 1:13 pm

Evidence of ice advance edges into North America appears to take on the shape of a polar vortex that rotates around repetitively enough within a shorter time span during the winter season and over decadal time scales to set up an interstadial cold period. Now all we have to do is figure out how it starts and stays stuck in that rapidly circulating pattern so as to create the ice advance pattern that mirrors this one time example of where the ice edge would be in addition to the cold and snow being reported.

Johann Wundersamer
February 2, 2019 2:50 pm

condensed:

No, Snow requires cold. the snowfall must be in a smaller area; less area for the precipitation to be snow.

cold weather is evidence of no warming. more precipitation means that the weather is not colder.

: 2 sense

mortimer zilch
February 3, 2019 5:37 am

MUST STOP the “global dimming project” funded by Bill Gates…it’s really designed to slow food production and reduce population… IT’S GENOCIDAL !! all in the name of environmentalism….

February 3, 2019 6:14 pm

Hmmm…so hot air produces cold.
And that justifies subsidies for wind and solar and Solydra and Tesla?

PS IF that NY idiot”s “Green New Deal” had been in effect, hundreds if not thousands would have frozen to death.

Joel Snider
February 4, 2019 9:16 am

Whenever a reporter describes a comment as a ‘brilliant response’ it’s not journalism – it’s advocacy .