Shocker from The Guardian: Save us the smugness over 2018’s heatwaves, environmentalists

I did a double take when I read that headline. From the Guardian, really? Yes.


Save us the smugness over 2018’s heatwaves, environmentalists
In this historically precarious moment, we need something more fundamental than climate strategies built on shame and castigation

There was a barely stifled schadenfreudian glee echoing across the liberal press through this burning hot summer. Environmentalists could scarcely disguise their we-told-you-so smirks as one suffocating heatwave after another rolled over the globe, wildfires savaged landscapes from Siberia to California and broken temperature records kept piling up.

But yearning for catastrophe is an ugly desire, and it is exactly the wrong way to think about global warming. Disasters always hit marginalised people first and worst, and as tempting as it might be to hope the calamities of 2018 bring new kinds of change, that desire only betrays how badly environmentalism needs to be overhauled.

It is a historically precarious moment for the environment. We constantly hear dire warnings from some UN body or scientific panel that we have this many years left and these thresholds before we hit the tipping points and the whole world unravels. Despite this piercing urgency, the languages at hand are so consistently inept that it often feels impossible to know what real change might be or how to talk about it.

The reflexive condescension of environmentalism that looks down on those working in industry is precisely what we do not need. Working people whose livelihoods and families depend on resource extraction have no time for catastrophism, and defaulting to that desire sets back climate justice movements immeasurably.

Ecology has to speak to class directly and confront inequality with believable claims that a different world is possible.

Individualising responsibility is one of capitalism’s prime defensive strategies: reducing ecology to just another consumer decision and isolating governments from culpability. Blaming the choices individual people make in the context of limited options and grinding employment pressures is a fool’s errand. We are all implicated in these extractivist ideologies: we’re all burning almost everything we can get our hands on, and we are as bound up with the contradictions as anyone.Advertisement

We do not need another set of climate strategies built on shame and castigation. We need something more fundamental – something beyond exhortations to recycle more – that can open viable routes to real action. We need an approach that matches the scale of the problem.

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Paul r
October 2, 2018 12:54 am

So there’s been heatwaves in the northern hemisphere during their summer months.wow. let me know when there’s heatwaves during your winter months. Then it may get my attention.

Reply to  Paul r
October 2, 2018 2:33 am

Winters are warmer in my neck of the woods. The only question is whether or not that’s a good thing or. A bad thing.

Well it certainly is not a bad thing. Claiming that a warmer world will be a catastrophic disaster should be a hard sell, but apparently it hasn’t at least among stupid politicians. Well they’ve bought into it beacause it benefits them, but it doesn’t benefit anyone else.

Randy Stubbings
Reply to  Steve case
October 2, 2018 7:08 am

The current 14-day forecast for Calgary shows temperatures 10 to 15 degrees C below normal. For a few days the projected daytime highs are below the normal lows. The world outside my window right now is white. A few years ago I had to pressure-wash my trees to save them because heavy snow stuck to the unfallen leaves and was close to snapping big branches. Calgary lost many thousands of trees that year. The snow seems to be less, and a bit less wet and heavy this year, so hopefully there won’t be a repeat of “Snowtember,” though the snowfall has not ended. No headlines so far about global cooling, though there have been a few about record September snowfalls in many places in Alberta.

john
Reply to  Randy Stubbings
October 2, 2018 7:30 am

We are getting regular snowfalls in Sakatchewan. At least a month early and the low for tomorrow night is -10C. We appear to be headed for a rough one.

BCBill
Reply to  Randy Stubbings
October 2, 2018 12:03 pm

For the last two winters we set numerous winter daily low records in southern BC. We appear to be headed there again.

Reply to  Randy Stubbings
October 2, 2018 6:02 pm

Sorry, Randy, that’s just nature. Nothing to see here.

October 2, 2018 12:58 am

“climate justice movements”

That’s a new one on me.

“Ecology has to speak to class directly and confront inequality with believable claims that a different world is possible.”

A warmer one would be nice, with increased CO2, moving us further away from the 150 ppm threshold at which meaningful life expires.

“Individualising responsibility is one of capitalism’s prime defensive strategies”

Indeed. And the socialist solution is to collectivise the decision making process so’s nothing gets decided, or if it does it turns out like a committees version of a horse.

http://animalsadda.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Bactrian-Camel-3.jpg

gnomish
Reply to  HotScot
October 2, 2018 1:34 am

they don’t use words for thinking but for influencing
this is the plot:

Cwon14
Reply to  HotScot
October 2, 2018 1:45 am

It’s always about socialism and any climate authoritarian dissent should start there. That a substantial portion of skeptics refuse the acknowledgement explains why the illogical and anti science climate agenda advanced on the world over the past 50 years.

Skeptical smugness “about science” a key cause of the failure.

dennisambler
Reply to  HotScot
October 2, 2018 2:46 am

Climate/environmental justice theme has been around a long time:

In 1994, Bill Clinton issued an executive order, directing that every federal agency make environmental justice part of its mission. In a speech at the April 22, 1994 Earth Day EPA Administrator Carol Browner said:

“Nobody can question that, for far too long, communities across this country–low income, minority communities–have been asked to bear a disproportionate share of our modern industrial life.”

In May 2010, the EPA press office reported that $1.9 million in environmental justice grants had been awarded to 76 non-profit organizations and local governments working on environmental justice issues nationwide.

Lisa Jackson, former EPA Head, responsible for Endangerment Finding,
“Environmental justice is one of my top priorities for my time at the EPA, and it is something we are working to include in each and every initiative and decision the agency makes.”

john
Reply to  dennisambler
October 2, 2018 7:34 am

Do they even attempt to understand what they say? What the Hell is a “disproportionate share of our modern industrial life”? That’s sounds like a benefit to me.

JClarke
Reply to  dennisambler
October 2, 2018 10:23 am

Justice is a B.S. word. It means exactly what the person using it wants it to mean and therefore means nothing. It’s only slightly better than the word “Fair”.

bill
Reply to  JClarke
October 2, 2018 3:21 pm

Almost completely agreed JClarke, however would argue that Justice is such a bullshit word that it is much worse than fair. eg in the legal “Justice system” very few thoughtfull people would argue that the “Justice” systems findings are generally fair.

KaliforniaKook
Reply to  dennisambler
October 3, 2018 10:51 am

“Nobody can question that, for far too long, communities across this country–low income, minority communities–have been asked to bear a disproportionate share of our modern industrial life.” Is that a reference to ‘fly-over country’? I thought those folks and their needs were to be ignored, while the city folk elites get to make the decisions for how the fly-over country lives their lives.

Jarrett Rhoades
Reply to  HotScot
October 4, 2018 5:29 pm

Those committees are very “good” at lining up dissidents and scapegoats, cramming them into box cars, shuffling them out of sight, and exterminating them.

Peter Miller
October 2, 2018 1:01 am

For alarmists, whenever it’s hot, cold, wet, dry, windy, stormy or just normal, it’s always definitive proof of global warming/climate change/imminent Armageddon.

Sadly, for alarmists the concept of weather variations, as witnessed millions of time before in the past, is a heresy.

Hunter
Reply to  Peter Miller
October 2, 2018 4:37 am

Just like with Bible thumpers.

Lokki
Reply to  Hunter
October 2, 2018 7:33 am

Many people who would have been ‘Bible Thumpers’ a century ago predicting Armageddon if society didn’t mend its ways are today’s Environmentalists predicting the end of the world if society doesn’t mend its ways.

Pure analytic science remains an unrealized ideal, just as does pure unadulterated religion.

In summary, the name changes but the song remains the same.

Michael 2
Reply to  Hunter
October 4, 2018 2:47 pm

Hunter is approximately correct. One of the signs of the end-times is a change in seasons and climate.

schitzree
October 2, 2018 1:02 am

Soo, I take it there was somewhere unusual warm this year? It sure wasn’t Indiana. And after checking out the Satellite Records, it wasn’t the Earth as a whole either.

It’s enough to make a guy think that those ‘ suffocating’ heatwaves might have been purely local weather, with matching cold somewhere else. Odd that the cold didn’t get mentioned anywhere.

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Reply to  schitzree
October 2, 2018 4:44 am

In our part of southern Europe, it was unusually cool this summer. Many Portuguese were unhappy because their holidays were spoiled by the cooler temps, mostly 30C or below. The ocean here is normally quite cold for swimming because of the up-welling, but we were in the water a lot and the cooler temps were welcome in the city.

So, yes, I believe the heatwaves were mostly local weather.

John Bell
Reply to  Pamele Matlack-Klein
October 2, 2018 5:47 am

Summer here in SE Michigan was glorious, just what i hoped for, largely dry, great for trail bicycles, and warm, with three periods at or near 90F which is great for swimming in little lakes, but autumn is colder than normal and wetter.

Reply to  Pamele Matlack-Klein
October 2, 2018 5:49 am

We had a cool summer in the NE US.

john
Reply to  Pamele Matlack-Klein
October 2, 2018 7:37 am

Western Canada-normal temperatures but dry for a second year running.

Bill_W_1984
Reply to  schitzree
October 2, 2018 5:34 am

There will always be somewhere that it is warmer, colder, wetter, dryer, windier, more fires, more mudslides, warmer at night, more insects, fewer butterflies, more tornadoes, and a hurricane or two or ten will always hit somewhere in the world and a few of those will be large and often kill a lot of people. So, this game can go on forever.

If the warming trend continues to be less than the GCMs predict and we have another hiatus or two, then eventually the predictions will be lowered but it won’t necessarily stop activists and the MSM from their normal clap-trap.

TDBraun
Reply to  schitzree
October 2, 2018 6:20 am

We had a mild Summer in Oklahoma. Cooler and a little more rain than usual.

And NO tornadoes here — an exceptionally tornado-free year here in tornado alley.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  schitzree
October 2, 2018 7:18 am

“Soo, I take it there was somewhere unusual warm this year? It sure wasn’t Indiana. And after checking out the Satellite Records, it wasn’t the Earth as a whole either.”

There was a short-term heatwave in Britain that got many who live in the region overly excited. But it’s long gone now. Other than that, I don’t recall seeing reports of any other heatwaves. There certainly were no heatwaves here in the central part of the U.S. where heatwaves usually come to stay for the summer. California had a heatwave for a couple of weeks, but that went away quickly. California’s fires were caused by high winds and socialist delusion.

I’m sure it was hot in other parts of the world this year, but as far as I know, there were no extreme heatwaves this year. Britain’s heatwave was extreme for them, but is just about business as usual where I live. We get something like that every year, except this year has been very mild and we have had lots of rain, which we usually don’t get during the summer.

If anyone knows of any extreme, unusual weather that happened in the world this year, I would like to hear about it. I think the claims made by the authors of this piece are not backed up by the facts. The statistics say extreme weather of all kinds is less extreme than in the past.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 2, 2018 9:57 am

We had a tropical rainforest sort of summer here at the confluence of the Illinois and Mississippi rivers. Night time lows were rarely below F72. RH rarely dropped below 60% in the afternoons as the dew point stayed in the 70s. Reminds me of summers here in the early 1970s. The difference is that crops are more resistant to excessive moisture and blight nowadays, so we’re getting bumper crops in well before frost thanks to recent dry weeks.

michel
October 2, 2018 1:10 am

Well, speaking as an indigenous resident of a small local community someplace in the North West portion of the Northern Hemisphere, let me say that it is delightful that the Guardian is finally setting a priority on us indigenouses and our indigenous interests.

We need to stop with the relentless complacency of the ecological movement and take account of the damage done to our well being and quality of life by the relentless taxing of our fuel and the destruction of our local landscapes by monstrous steel towers which sprout like triffids everywhere the eye can see.

This destruction of our indigenous way of life, forcing us to change our heritage dress of tweeds and check Viyella shirts for fleece, because we can no longer afford the escalating costs of our traditional practice of living in warm houses because of the electricity tax for wind turbines, its appalling. We are even having to resort to the profoundly un-British device of the duvet, and recalling with nostalgia distant memories of heavy woollen blankets and hospital cornered cotton sheets, made in traditional mills in Blackburn or someplace by traditional craft workers, now all out of work since the duvet has replaced their ancestral crafted products.

All power to the Guardian for recognising that the hostility and discrimination and heedlessness directed at the rural tweedsters and the deep infrastructure and ancestral wisdom that supported their culture and way of life has been quite wrong.

Perhaps this call to reason and compassion will find echoes with its readers, and the millenials in BMWs who swan through our villages on vacation will look with more awareness at the indigenous struggling to continue to practice their traditional culture in a world which they the millenials have too carelessly turned upside down.

I for one hope so!

john
Reply to  michel
October 2, 2018 7:44 am

it has come to the attention of the Loonie Left that you have begun to think for yourself. You must be aware of how critically important it is that we think and act as a monolithic block. Therefore, self thinking cannot be tolerated. Please present yourself at any local media or Leftist party office where re-indoctrination can be arranged. Failure to report will automatically result in your being labelled a “DENIER”. Duh-Du-DUUUU!

E J Zuiderwijk
October 2, 2018 1:12 am

Ah, a first step on the long road to the recognition that ‘climate change’ is natural and that we have little to do with it let alone have any control over it.

Gary Ashe
October 2, 2018 1:18 am

Funny.

The water melon Marxists created their dumbed down congregation.
Their green religious zeal.

Now their self anointed ”community leaders” want them to change and play nice.

They have no self-awareness, they cannot see they all fit a very easily recognisable profile.

These idiots really believe that all those un-believers for instance are evil right wingers.

Ofcourse reality is most skeptics like most people are not really political and will vote the best option for them, the candidate that offers change they want.

I dont know or read any AGW evangelist who is not ”woke” and leftwing.
Yet they cannot recognise that they are just a small sub-set of our communities who truly imagine they are apart of some huge majority,……

The Guardian, the high Temple of British AGW evangelism, 1% of the population readership [600k], the Green party about 2% of the voters in the country, it is an illness they have, and it stands out a mile to the majority.
And goes un-recognised by the minority.

Reply to  Gary Ashe
October 2, 2018 1:48 am

Gary Ashe

That’s socialism for you. The entire country (UK) in thrall to minority groups who dictate government policy with their shrill shrieking and street protests.

If it continues it will be the death of democracy here. May God forbid that the communists Corbyn and McDonnell ever get close to the reigns of power.

Reply to  HotScot
October 2, 2018 1:56 am

Gary Ashe

P.S. This is an image from the Labour party conference where participants were issued Palestinian flags to wave at an opportune moment. Yet they maintain they are not anti Semitic!

The article is worth reading.

http://www.melaniephillips.com/destruction-israel-signature-cause-labour-party/

Alexander Carpenter
Reply to  HotScot
October 2, 2018 7:44 am

Aren’t Arabs also semites? As I recall, the tribe of semites includes several racial and ethnic groups (even the Kazarian “Jews”), however diluted they all might be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

Whenever people hint (or outright accuse) that I might be anti-semitic, just to get their goat I reply that I have nothing against Arabs. And there you have another inadvertent ethnic joke to whip the PC folks into an onanistic frenzy. Ans there’s yet another inadvertent ethnic joke…

So much noise, so little signal…

October 2, 2018 1:38 am

We do of course note, there is not a single functioning, meaningful, fossil fuelled power station within the London area (that being defined by the M25) and I suspect many other British cities are similar, they are all on the outskirts. Similarly, there is not one meaningful wind farm nor solar array within the same area. Yet where is the majority of the countries energy use focussed on?

Nor would I mind if cities weren’t used to judge the rest of the countries air quality on, imposing electric and hybrid vehicles on us all; imposing taxes on fuel to clean up the air in cities; imposing building standards and planning laws designed for cities on rural communities; carving a useless HS2 rail line from north to south (that is, England. Scotland won’t ‘benefit’) through pristine countryside, all to save travellers 20 minutes from one end of England to the other. I’ll also add that around 7% of travel is undertaken by rail in the UK, but a disproportionate, eye watering amount of money is spent on it largely to satisfy the daily London commuters.

But of course we must maintain the Victorian concept of mass transit because it’s largely supported by the taxpayer and entrepreneurial endeavours to modernise it (ironically, as the Victorians did) are frustrated because we can’t possibly upset the status quo established over the last 200 years, otherwise known as regressive stagnation.

I could go on, but best not.

Reply to  HotScot
October 2, 2018 1:49 am

Sorry, that reply was to michel.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  HotScot
October 2, 2018 2:06 am

HS2 is an EU construct! The EU mandated/dictated a while ago that all regions of the EU MUST be accessible to high-speed train, full stop! All arguments in favour of it from politicians (aka liars, cheats, thieves, decievers, etc) were manufactured to convince the public at large of its virtues! AtB

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Alan the Brit
October 2, 2018 7:38 am

Does the EU Parliament have to convince the public of anything? I thought Brussels ruled by Decree.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Alan the Brit
October 2, 2018 10:00 am

Elected politicians are in favor of big projects and want high speed trains. They all do.

I don’t think the EU is the cause of most expensive and sometimes useless infrastructure investment. Except when EU credits are used to build highway to nowhere in Greece.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  simple-touriste
October 2, 2018 10:50 pm

Add Spain and Italy to the list too.

Hunter
October 2, 2018 2:03 am

The article seems to make the point that for the climate obsessed delusional fear is preferred to smugness, but that both are preferred to reality.

michael hart
October 2, 2018 2:06 am

The Guardian knows that, if asked, the majority of the UK population (and their own readers) will describe the summer of 2018 as a “good summer”, possibly a “great summer”. They just can’t admit it, even to themselves.

Klem
October 2, 2018 2:09 am

Wow that’s an interesting article. It reminds me of a coach giving the players a pep-talk after a big win, so they don’t get overconfident and to keep them focused on the next battle. It also reveals just how entrenched is their blind faith in leftist environmentalism.

Peta of Newark
October 2, 2018 2:23 am

A slightly trivial take on The UK Heatwave..
….and….
My little crop of Wunderground personal weather stations.
Based in England with the longest records I can find fro such things- 15 years+

For that record:
August was in 1st, 2nd or 3rd place for warmest August across them all. August was warm.
September results are in and is the coldest 1st, 2nd or 3rd across them all. September was cold.

Now we understand this article from the Grauniad.
They *know* that and are attempting to prevent September from kicking their asses should they get onto their Global Warming Heatwave High-Horse. September has undone the buckle holding the saddle on.

commieBob
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 2, 2018 3:41 am

Indeed. In my neck of the woods the summer heat waves didn’t even seem to be the worst in my memory, never mind history.

I’ve heard stories about the heat waves in the 1930s. Somehow those seem to have been adjusted out of significance.

How much of the record nature of this summer’s heat waves is due to adjustments?

Anthony Banton
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 2, 2018 4:21 am

“September has undone the buckle holding the saddle on.”

Hardly.
“Summer” months are June, July and August.
Or perhaps there are other summer months in Newark?
BTW: I live in just north of you in the Lincs Wolds, and it’s not the case here.
Yes there is sarc.
Deservedly so.

MarkW
Reply to  Anthony Banton
October 2, 2018 7:57 am

How typical of an alarmist, retreating into a dictionary definition in order to avoid dealing with the issue at hand.

Gary Ashe
Reply to  MarkW
October 2, 2018 2:50 pm

Banton’s banter Mark.

Reply to  Anthony Banton
October 2, 2018 8:52 am

Summer didn’t end in the Northern hemisphere until Sept. 23rd. That’s part of the problem with man’s artificial divisions of time and temperature. We act like nature should comform to our definition and division of the seasons. And if it doesn’t, we must have caused it!

John Endicott
Reply to  Anthony Banton
October 3, 2018 11:58 am

Anthony Banton, Summer (in the Northern Hemisphere) begins on the solstice on June 21 and ends on the autumnal equinox September 22. So for most of your “Summer month” of June, it isn’t summer yet. and for most of your non-summer month of September, it is still Summer.

John Endicott
Reply to  John Endicott
October 3, 2018 12:00 pm

And yes, Banton, the solstice and equinox are the same in Lincs Wolds as it is in Newark, sorry that you failed to learn that in school.

Ill Tempered Klavier
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 2, 2018 9:36 am

I thought this summer here in the U.S. Pacific Northwest was golden. True, I didn’t take maximum advantage of bikini weather the way I used to: The sand has shifted a bit after all. Grilling on the deck, however, was delightful and I did get in a bit of sitting in the shade sipping lemonade. The blackberry bushes in my back yard yielded over ten gallons of luscious goodness and my two scraggly apple trees prospered as well: My mom just finished canning two dozen quarts of applesauce, my pies and turnovers have been well received, and I’ve still got two five gallon buckets left as well as quite a few still on the trees that I’ll probably let drop for the deer.

October now, feels like October, a bit chilly with rain yesterday. Just cloudy today and tomorrow, then back to rain for a couple of days.

Editor
October 2, 2018 2:36 am

Maybe it’s time to start shaming them.

A real-world discount rate zeroes out any “benefits” of carbon regulations.

The only pathway to significantly reducing carbon “pollution” is natural gas to nuclear power.

Even if they were right about the science (they aren’t), basic economics render all solutions pointless and their favored solutions worse than pointless.

Of course the entire exercise would be pointless, because Warmunists are morons, particularly regarding economics.

Gary Mount
Reply to  David Middleton
October 2, 2018 3:09 am

Our nearby natural gas generator was shut down and disassembled. It was replaced with potential black outs.

https://www.tricitynews.com/lifestyles/green-scene-shutting-burrard-thermal-makes-no-sense-1.2221160

If you ever watched the movie Alien : Requiem, you’ve seen the facility.

oakwood
October 2, 2018 2:43 am

Unfortunately, the article is ultimately disappointing – and smug. Finishing with “But we have to resist the urge to smirk about suffering and refute the smug catastrophism of environmentalists.” Other than a few words about listenting more to indigenous peoples, no solutions are offered, other than the worn out: “We’re doing it wrong. We need to find a new way and a paradigm shift”.

LdB
Reply to  oakwood
October 2, 2018 7:04 am

No it’s we need a paradigm shift and you need to pay and stop complaining.

Wrusssr
October 2, 2018 3:07 am

Manmade climate change/global warming is a hoax that has been skinned, quartered, sliced, diced and thrown onto the world’s scrap heap of grand lies that will transcend the ages now that the information toothpaste is out.” The handful of financial Wizards of Oz who’re still attempting to perpetrate this scam on humanity in search of OPM (even thought they could underwrite it themselves . . . call it an inherited disease) to finance their UN central government bureaucracy with themselves in charge.

Bolshevik Russia was their trial run.

So now we have what? A global drought? Hottest on record? Gosh, how could that be. . . unless . . . well, did you know they could stop it from raining in the 1950’s? Seen it with my own eyes. Was in a court room when the judge grounded the planes. Imagine a straight highway west into the mirage with flatland farms on one side and ranchland mountains you couldn’t get a plow in on the other. Now imagine a decade long drought in progress. The farmers have aquifer wells. The ranchers have mountains and brown grass that need rain. The farmers hire a “weather service” firm to dissipate “potential hail clouds” (read thunderheads). The ranchers asked them to stop. Farmers said sorry. Then seeder pilots began to find an occasional bullet hole in their craft. No planes downed and no one hurt. A subsequent lawsuit and the judge grounded the cloud seeders.

Case law came out of it but it, like so many others, are ignored or ‘worked around’ if it doesn’t fit The Agenda.

Hard to imagine where they are now with their weather ‘technology’. Won’t haarp on that though.

After being laughed off their world AGW stage, after their files were hacked in time for Copenhagen, and after passing out an Oscar and Nobel or two to deserving climateers, they found themselves unable to convince any but the faithful that global warming was real. So . . . what to do? Too late and no time to come up with The New Plan. Wait a minute! Why don’t we just create a global drought and be done with it? Toast the land and make a little money off scarce food commodities. Short a few futures and useless eaters along the way.

And so they did. Made that call a couple decades ago and sent the tankers aloft. Call it the AGW’s two-minute drill.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/09/29/claim-climate-geo-engineering-might-exacerbate-malaria/

Is this an exciting century or what?

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Mike Bryant
Reply to  Wrusssr
October 2, 2018 7:06 am

What colour is the sky in your world?

MarkW
Reply to  Wrusssr
October 2, 2018 8:00 am

The comment about not “haarping on that” gives it away.
He actually believes that the government is controlling the weather.

richard
October 2, 2018 3:22 am

A quick flick through https://www.iceagenow.info/page/2/ over the year and they seem to have missed all the record cold and snow around the world. For some reason the alarmotologists seem unable to predict this.

Jaakko Kateenkorva
October 2, 2018 3:39 am

We do not need another set of climate strategies built on shame and castigation. We need something more fundamental – something beyond exhortations to recycle more – that can open viable routes to real action. We need an approach that matches the scale of the problem.

The scale of the problem is measured in parts per million, millimetres, and fractions of a temperature degree per century. So, I agree. The problem is homeopathic and so should be the solution.

What comes to the rest, they can continue bargaining. I don’t wanna get Guardian on my hands.

Steve O
October 2, 2018 4:26 am

The main criticism in the Guardian article is that the smugness has been ineffective. They don’t say what “new approach” is needed but I guarantee you they have one in mind and I think know what it is. It’s an approach that does not rely on shaming people, or convincing them what is the right thing to do. That is, it’s not an approach that relies on voluntary compliance. In case anyone still doesn’t know what I’m hinting at, in the past, The Guardian has written about the need for a “temporary” suspension of democracy.

Bill Murphy
Reply to  Steve O
October 2, 2018 5:00 am

RE: The Guardian has written about the need for a “temporary” suspension of democracy.

Yeah, right, temporary. A few millennia should do it. Seems to me it’s been tried before. Augustus and Hitler come to mind. How did that work out?

LdB
Reply to  Steve O
October 2, 2018 7:27 am

They need to be careful a few right wing groups might give them what they want complete with firing squads and periods in re-education camps.

simple-touriste
Reply to  Steve O
October 2, 2018 9:30 am

“The main criticism in the Guardian article is that the smugness has been ineffective.”

Mélenchon, the French Corbyn, also condemns political violence because “it reflects badly and it’s ineffective” and for no other reason.

October 2, 2018 4:49 am

I did a double take when I read that headline. From the Guardian, really? Yes.

Shocked? don’t be. After that teaser about the “real problem” the article goes on to conclude:

Last month the Trans Mountain pipeline was rejected by Canada’s federal court of appeal due to a failure to meaningfully consult with indigenous people. This was a shockingly positive development, but was matched the same day when Kinder Morgan approved the $4.5bn sale of the entire pipeline extension to the Canadian government.

A critique of capitalism and consumption is necessary but insufficient when examining the state of the environment. Capitalism has proven spectacularly malleable and agile, and it will exist long after any climate crisis is averted, if the crisis is framed only as one of climate. We must destroy the colonial assumptions that dominate our relationships with land and the natural world.

More than ever, we need creative resistance and radically affirmative social visions of the future if we are to take the calamity of global warming seriously. The burning catastrophes of 2018 can and should open up new lines of urgency. But we have to resist the urge to smirk about suffering and refute the smug catastrophism of environmentalists.

So another person is calling for the destruction of industrial society and a return to the “wisdom” of “indigenous peoples”, while not revealing how that can be done without also returning to a pre-industrial standard of living. Seems to be the feel-good mantra of today’s “progressives”.

He’s not saying the smug “told you so” of some environmentalists is wrong; he’s saying right-thinking people can’t stop there. They have to “open viable routes to real action”.

Bruce Cobb
October 2, 2018 5:13 am

Oh noes! Does this mean – gasp – “No more Mr. Nice Guy?” Auugggghhh! Now we’re in trouble. They’re going to roll up their sleeves and get down to fundamentals. The “languages” will be changed, everything will be changed. They’ll be talking to “The People” now, instead of at them. They’ll be playing hardball from now on. We Skeptics/Climate Realists are Dooooooomed! Hahahahahahaha!
They are as clueless as ever.

JMichna
October 2, 2018 5:35 am

Regarding “There was a barely stifled schadenfreudian glee echoing across the liberal press through this burning hot summer. Environmentalists could scarcely disguise their we-told-you-so smirks as one suffocating heatwave after another rolled over the globe, wildfires savaged landscapes from Siberia to California and broken temperature records kept piling up.”

Must be local weather events, as here in the beautiful western Upper Peninsula of Michigan, we’ve had a rather mild, maybe chilly, summer… perhaps two or three days did we reach 90°F, and even the 80°Fs were rare. It’s the 2nd of October and we’ve had frost warnings starting about two weeks ago, and night-time temps drop into the 30°Fs. Summer was also pretty wet, and Lake Superior’s water level remains quite high going into the third year as we approach winter. If winter is cold, and ice covers most of the big lake, keeping water levels high, next year’s spring thaw & ice breakup will be some rough times for folks living along our rivers & streams.

Brent Hargreaves
October 2, 2018 5:52 am

The Guardian? Leftist rag read by champagne socialists. It’s on the brink of bankruptcy, ha ha. How is this newspaper getting traction in the US? It ain’t for sale in the shops.

On a recent holiday to the US (I’m British) I was struck by the deep polarisation between right and left. The left seem to have an anti-development, anti industry agenda with their global warming hoax a means to that end.

In the UK our loathesome BBC are shifting their aim from CO2 to plastics. Ask a lefty “And YOU sir… will YOU give up plastics???” will get the same old answer: “Well, I do a little bit but the WORLD must give up using energy/plastics.” Hypocrites all, fifth columnists.

HD Hoese
October 2, 2018 6:08 am

First they need to learn the definition of the word ecology. Among others better educated.

Coach Springer
October 2, 2018 6:16 am

“Piercing urgency”? Is that some kind of dog whistle reference to the allegations against Kavanaugh?

ResourceGuy
October 2, 2018 6:20 am

Something more? Start with the truth and admission of mistakes in policy crusades and admission of harm to science and normal science skepticism from that crusade of special interests.

Sally
October 2, 2018 6:28 am

Well..nearly went to share that Guardian article – and then read it ALL first.. I don’t like the selective editing of the article on this website, because it his the fact the Guardian article, for all its critiquing of environmental catastrophism, doubled down on calling people to use indigenous people to support environmental activism!

John the Econ
October 2, 2018 7:08 am

Environmentalism did not get a political foothold until the western middle class became affluent enough to care about environmental quality. Poor people living near-subsistence lifestyles do not have the time or energy to care about their impact upon the environment. This is why most of the trash that goes into the ocean is coming not from the affluent and high-consuming west, but from poor regions where people simply don’t care.

Unfortunately, Progressivism’s only answer to pollution is more poverty when the real answer lies in more affluence. People who have moved up the Maslow Curve and are economically secure are willing to spend what it takes to mitigate their impact upon the environment.

ResourceGuy
October 2, 2018 8:26 am

It is important to let extremists fully expose themselves for all to see on a regular basis. That way the politicos and media groups that associate with them also expose themselves. The dogma will not last in a cyclical (natural) world but it is hard to live with at times.

Editor
October 2, 2018 9:13 am

I was particularly impressed with this line from the original story:

“We must destroy the colonial assumptions that dominate our relationships with land and the natural world.”

Gads! I wonder what that is mean to mean?

Gary Ashe
Reply to  Kip Hansen
October 2, 2018 3:12 pm

Ownership Kip.

The land should be for ”everyone”.

Joe G
October 2, 2018 9:32 am

After the brutally cold winter those heat waves were very, very welcome.

Just sayin’

Alan Tomalty
October 2, 2018 12:51 pm

“A critique of capitalism and consumption is necessary but insufficient when examining the state of the environment. Capitalism has proven spectacularly malleable and agile, and it will exist long after any climate crisis is averted, if the crisis is framed only as one of climate. We must destroy the colonial assumptions that dominate our relationships with land and the natural world.”

These authors are too chickenshit to actually come out and say what they really mean. What they mean is they want capitalism destroyed and replaced by a 1 world government. Orwell warned against this type of thinking.

October 2, 2018 1:40 pm

“There was a barely stifled schadenfreudian glee echoing across the liberal press through this burning hot summer. Environmentalists could scarcely disguise their we-told-you-so smirks as one suffocating heatwave after another rolled over the globe, wildfires savaged landscapes from Siberia to California and broken temperature records kept piling up.”

This is paramount to the Nazi propaganda convincing people in Germany and elsewhere that Jews had horns etc and were otherwise not human.

I have seen accounts from citizens from German cities who were surprised that Jews, that were being marched past (no doubt on the first part of their trip to the gas chamber), looked absolutely normal.

In other words, the propaganda was sufficient for normal people to believe that Jews were not people.

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/images/sturmer/DS-1936-41.jpg

Sound familiar?

A warm summer is not just a summer but a heat wave.

A cold winter is an aberration.

A bush fire is AGW as predicted.

No one publishes the real reason for the seriousness of the bus fire.

A hurricane causes devastation. Global Warming in action.

Counts of hurricanes have decreased. significance ignored.

etc.

Cheers

Roger

Amber
October 2, 2018 2:39 pm

Snowing in Alberta and skiing in downtown Calgary already . Yep the earth has a fever alright .

The climate con-men need to find another scam .

Michael 2
October 4, 2018 2:20 pm

“Ecology has to speak to class directly and confront inequality with believable claims that a different world is possible.”

Eliminate inequality at the source — the human being. Clone them. When all are identical the world will be one big step closer to this goal.