Remember this? The ill-fated “Spirit of Mawson” expedition to Antarctica (in the Akademik Shokalskiy) that set out to bring attention to “global warming” only to be trapped in ice?
It’s deja vu all over again. (with h/t to Yogi Berra)
We have another winner! This time in the Arctic.
A few weeks ago I covered this:
Student propaganda cruise to the Arctic to be carried by webcast
From August 23 to Sept. 13, the University of Rhode Island’s Inner Space Center (ISC), with major funding from the U.S. National Science Foundation and additional support from the Heising-Simons Foundation, will conduct the innovative Northwest Passage Project research expedition with a team of natural and social scientists, students, and a professional film crew. This ground-breaking opportunity is also supported by One Ocean Expeditions as a key marine partner, having operated in Arctic waters for over 20 years.
Research to aid understanding of / document climate change effects
Aboard the Akademik Ioffe, the team will collect water, ice, and air samples to advance understanding of and document the effect climate change is having on the environment and biodiversity in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago.
…
The expedition team will engage a wide public audience through an extensive and unprecedented Internet presence from the area, including Facebook Live broadcasts from sea. Special interactive broadcasts will be beamed via the Inner Space Center (ISC), the U.S. facility that supports ocean exploration and education, to three prestigious science museums across the country – the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History, Washington DC, the Exploratorium, San Francisco CA, and the Alaska SeaLife Center, Seward AK.
Then predictably, this happened according to the Facebook page of the tour company, One Ocean Expeditions Inner Space Center:
On the morning of August 24th, the Akademik Ioffe — the vessel carrying the participants of the National Science Foundation funded Northwest Passage Project being conducted by the University of Rhode Island — became grounded in the western Gulf of Boothia in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago. The ship has since been re-floated, and following a full and successful systems check the vessel has repositioned to anchor. We are happy to report that all passengers, including all Northwest Passage Project participants, are safe and are being well cared for. We will provide updates as we resolve the situation.
Then the Canadian Coast Guard service had this to say:
Good morning, Due to heavier than normal ice concentrations in the Canadian arctic waters north of 70 degrees, the Canadian Coast Guard, recommends that pleasure craft do not navigate in the Beaufort Sea, Barrow, Peel Sound, Franklin Strait and Prince Regent. CCG icebreakers cannot safely escort pleasure craft. Operators of pleasure craft considering a northwest passage should also consider the risk of having to winter in a safe haven in the Arctic, or in the case of an emergency, be evacuated from beset vessels. Safety of mariners is our primary concern. REGARDS, NORDREG CANADA 181256UTC\LR
And then, comes the familiar evacuation plan:
25 Aug 2018 – KUGAARUK, Nunavut – Cpl. Serge Yelle of the RCMP detachment says he expects between 80 and 90 of the passengers will fly from the remote Arctic coastline community back to Yellowknife.
The Transportation Safety Board is considering whether it will send investigators to the site.
A board spokesman says the ship has suffered some damage.
On its website, the tour operator – One Ocean Expeditions – describes the 117-metre Akademik Ioffe as a “modern, comfortable, safe and ice-strengthened” vessel that can host 96 passengers and 65 staff and crew.
Passengers on grounded Arctic cruise ship to be flown back to Yellowknife
It seems global warming zealots are condemned to repeat the past, over and over again.
Of course, despite their claims of “unprecedented Internet presence from the area” not a word of any of this on the official project page. The last entry was on August 22nd headlined: Getting there is half the fun
If only they’d checked first…per the Canadian Coast Guard report, sea ice volume is above normal, according to DMI:
Extent remains a bit below normal:
NOTE: About 15 minutes after publication, the title was changed from “stuck” to “grounded” to be more in-tune with news reports. However, since we so far have no photos of the grounding, we don’t know if it was a grounding by ice, or by land to avoid ice. Either way, since the ship is now damaged, the expedition is a bust.
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All the news articles say “run aground” not “stuck in ice”.
What is a little deception amongst climate deceivers?
It’s Russian bots who did them in (note the russian letters)
Perhaps they should plan their next Arctic Passage Cruise up De Nile
Vuk, the picture really is priceless. We should mass email it to Gore!
Perhaps you could email the picture of the actual ship, run aground, with no ice to be seen, to Anthony.
I hear the next Russian Research Vessel will be called the Akademik SOS
It’s aground to avoid ice damage, why would it winter there if it was just aground?
Interesting but that photo which I posted here yesterday has now disappeared!
Here it is again, just after the passengers had been taken off, the Coast guard helicopter is in the background.
Mueller should get on it right away. The American people need to know if this was discussed at the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians.
They started on 23rd, ran aground on 24th, probably “due to heavier than normal ice concentrations.” That’s a true explorer’s spirit.
Man oh man: that’s some great seamanship…only 24 hours away the ground.
Why isn’t this being called child endangerment?
LOL!
These rescue attempts are getting expensive. Tell them to just sit tight and wait for the ice to melt. . . drop them a few C’s (c-rations), maybe some charcoal and matches to melt snow and ice for water . . . some books to read on global warming, etc . . .
The Coast Guard should hand out books describing the Franklin expedition of 1845. They might draw some perspective from it, if they really are as intelligent as their parents hope that they are after spending all that $ for school.
How many of these folks know that in 1942 the RCMP schooner St. Roch circumnavigated N. America during a period of arguably lower ice extents than now (just not documented by satellites).
I fear fewer yet will find the connection between SSTs, atmospheric H2O, and winter warming in the arctic.
They also failed to notice that summer temperatures this year have been below normal until recently. That would have been a red flag for me.
PP
As I understand it the St Roch sailed from Vancouver to Halifax, west to east through the North West Passage, and then after a two year delay returned via the North West Passage, East to west, taking the more northerly route. That trip doesn’t seem to have circumnavigated North America.
John
St. Roch went through the nw passage in 1942. The circumnavigation of North America using the Panama Canal was 1950.
This wooden boat now lies in the Maritime Museum in Vancouver.
https://www.vancouvermaritimemuseum.com/permanent-exhibit/st-roch-national-historic-site.
Capt Larsen wouldn’t agree with you about the conditions in the 40s. According to him: “The three seasons of the short Arctic Summers from 1940-42 had been extremely bad for navigation, the worst consecutive three I had experienced as far as ice and weather conditions were concerned, and in my remaining years in the Arctic I never saw their like. Without hesitation I would say that most ships encountering the conditions we faced would have failed. I also believe that had we missed the single opportunity we had to get out of Pasley Bay, we most certainly would still be there, in small bits and pieces.”
There was a major Arctic melt in 1817 reported by whalers who hunted in the area every year (See the book Barrow’s Boys). This caused an increase in expeditions in search of an ice-free Northwest Passage only to become trapped in ice, for months on end and ultimately the disaster of the Franklin Expedition. These modern-day, supposedly educated fools are fortunate there are modern things like helicopters and airplanes to enable them to escape.
That was around the time of the Sir Joseph Banks expedition, when he wrote tothe Lords of the Admiralty in about 1817, describing tothem that the ice was “much abated”, suggesting a “new source of warmth” had occurred!
If “getting there is half the fun” for this crew, I can’t imagine the other half of the “fun”.
The other half of the fun, is “getting back home “.
I do not know what you guys consider fun, but the ratio of gender normative cis-females to actual males appears to be quite favorable.
James Lovelock predicted this outcome:
… the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable” …
They aren’t children, just extremely stupid.
Curious George said:
“They started on 23rd, ran aground on 24th, probably “due to heavier than normal ice concentrations.” That’s a true explorer’s spirit.”
That message you quoted was from the 18th, 6 days earlier, and doesn’t show that ice had anything to do with it.
Their heads have “run aground” not “stuck in a place where the Sun does not shine” !
[ All the news articles say “run aground” not “stuck in ice”. ]
Have they been adjusting their depth charts based on their own Sea-Level-Rise projections?
Annd ignored their chartplotter and depth finder; both of which have alarms for shallow depths.
take a knee… ironee that is,
iron brian
Canadian Press says “A pair of Canadian Coast Guard icebreakers are responding . . .” We’ll find out sooner or later whether “ice” was involved.
Ice was a variable according to One Ocean Expeditions:
Aug 25, 2018 5:58 PM by: Canadian Press
KUGAARUK, Nunavut — Dozens of passengers from an Arctic cruise ship that ran aground last week were expected to be flown back south Saturday night, weather and sea ice permitting.
“We’re considering it,” said Catherine Lawton of One Ocean Expeditions tour company.
“Right now, everything’s dependent on weather and ice. What we’re trying to do is watch the variables and put possible options in place.”
They meant to say “stuck in ice” but “run aground” was a Freudian slip when they were thinking about their “well grounded” AGW theory!
If you are well grounded, then you can’t have much potential.
(EE joke for those who don’t know EE.)
Ironically, that joke also applies to politics.
LOL. BSEE here… well played.
Be careful touching the frame of a grounded 230V AC machine next to another with out ground. ~110V AC gives you a nice tingle!
Those jolly sea-salts amongst readers here will know full well that the ultimate shame & embarrassment for any skipper, is to run aground, known colloquially as ” a right royal balls up!” in nautical parlance!
The company I work for collected an image (as best we could due to cloud) soon after the ship was refloated (unfortunately I cannot share it as it is owned by our client). There is some broken ice visible but no pack ice that would stop a ship. However it is possible that the ship steered away from some float ice and hit a submerged rock – bathymetry in the Arctic is far from complete.
We have heard from government sources that ice is unusually heavy this year.
You’re right, she ran aground. Either struck a sandbar or ridge with perhaps an extra low tide. And she was refloated, not broke free of ice. It appears this happened in open water. What is surprising to me is to evacuate the passengers and send them home instead of continuing the voyage. They must suspect the ship may have taken damage from whatever it was that she grounded on.
What irritates me about this debacle is this: “…with major funding from the U.S. National Science Foundation…”. So how much of our tax money went towards supporting a pleasure cruise that yielded zero scientific information? (Well, I guess they DID all learn that there is PLENTY of ice in the Arctic after all).
But they won’t report on that last bit. Take a closer look at their picture above. What we have there is a marauding band of Millennials led by a well fed science propagandist ready to add more stories to the doom and gloom that they have branded CAGW. If the evidence isn’t clear to you they will make some up. Mum’s the word on the part about getting stuck in all that “melted” ice.
To me it looks like a diverse group of snowflakes.
Hey Bill, do you suppose that the “Social Scientists” onboard the Ship of Fools are there to make up some grand story about what a noble effort this was and then Trump messed it up?
I’ve spent years trying to understand what on Earth a “Social Scientist” actually is! 😉
I think that it perhaps proves that Arctic Climate Science is in fact “well grounded” in AGW fallacy
At least it does show the AGW prognosticators to be Akademik
Aren’t the ‘k’s supposed to be printed backward in that word?
Nope. Cyrillic K is like Roman K.
The backwards Russian R isn’t r, but “yah”.
In fact a second rescue operation was needed:
Added in to this of course is the cost of sending the rescue teams out toget them, & the risks they are put at doing so!
yes while you and i work and pay taxez those who know so much better than us decide how to burn it (our money)
If I may quibble. Sea ice volume is slightly above average for this date, not above normal. It is solidly within the normally expected range. Of course, wind and current may make the ice pack in localized areas heavier than ‘normal’.
I have a colleague whose son is aboard the Canadian Coast Guard vessel which was just in Iqualuit. I will ask for his observations.
..it’s enough that all the usual suspects are not mentioning it at all
Also, it does not appear that changes in sea ice extent is a global warming thing.
There are other factors. I posted this link before in another sea ice post, but here it is again
https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/08/04/does-global-warming-drive-changes-in-arctic-sea-ice/
I agree with your quibble, Greg.
I see it all the time: people write, “above normal” or “below normal” to describe perfectly normal numbers (for temperature, rainfall, etc.) which are merely above or below average.
“Above normal” and “below normal” mean abnormal, i.e., outside the normal range. Those terms are not synonyms for “above average” and “below average,” respectively.
It is unusual for meteorological numbers to be exactly average. They are almost always at least a little bit above or below average. That is not abnormal, and should not be described as above or below normal.
Don’t overlook that the word “typical” can be a utilitarian word that can be used with ‘above’ and ‘below’ as circumstances demand.
Yes,kind of drives me a little nuts also. How about that something is “a hundred times less” when what is really meant is one hundredth. Annoys me,but apparently few others.
Nope, that drives me bat guano crazy too.
Steve Sollars
Upvote.
A bit like “I got my invite”…….No! You got your effing invitation!
I might invite you, I may have invited you, but I sent you an invitation!
And they usually have to Google RSVP!!!!!!!!!!!
But they would have to learn French first.
The use of “abnormal” when it properly should by “atypical” or outside of “average” bounds, is major annoyance no matter where I see it, typically for me in health-related articles. Sadly I’ve even seen this “normal” usage sometimes in conclusions of journal papers when “average” is clearly what it should be, but more often in quotes from the researchers provided by science writers. Are they trying to confuse readers?
Kitty Antonik
The curse of a formal education.
Kitty,
Climate folks formally defined “normal” in the mid-1930s.
Some folks know this and use the term as it was intended.
Some folks do not know of this definition and thus usage is muddled.
http://w1.weather.gov/glossary/index.php?word=NORMAL
You mean “abnormal” as in “Abby-normal”?…(Young Frankenstein) 🙂
The typical reader would not normally know that.
This is perhaps a bit pedantic, but it’s spelled Iqaluit (no “u” after the “q”).
MonnaM
Not pedantic at all. Had an Englishman misspelt my home town Kirkintilloch as they pronounce it, Kirkintillok there would have been hell to pay. Nor can I understand why my wife’s home town of Greenock is pronounced Grenock by the English.
I never pronounce either of them!
To an Englishman, they are both somewhere north of Watford.
Thank you Greg!
Quite correct: “Normal” means a range, not a number. An average is an arithmetical mean. Normal implies a range centered on the mean within which there is a 68% chance (Sigma 1) or 90% chance (Sigma 2) or 99% chance (Sigma 3) any measurement is expected to fall. So even saying “Normal” implies a Sigma number to go with it. The most common is 68%.
The advantage of such an approach is that all historical data can be used as the background to generate the range of “Normal”. It is not necessary (or advisable) to use the past 30 years. Use all years available, and calculate the average and then the standard deviation. Add and subtract the standard deviation from/to the average to find the Normal range, Sigma 1.
Believe it or not, this is how such things are reported in a scientific report. One of the best examples is The Lancet, which you can read free on line. Every single number for disease and impact is reported with a confidence value and the limits involved. Page after page, they faithfully follow the correct format for all reports, because health impact analysis is highly dependent on statistics, just like climate science.
Weathermen should never say, “Today it is 1 degree above average.” They should say today it is 31 degrees which is within the normal range for this location.” If it is, of course. When it is super-hot, they should report that “it is abnormally hot” which would be true if it was above the normal range, which has a standard definition.
Today is the 27th of August. There may never have been a recorded high for today that matched the long term average high, because it is a mathematical construct, not the value of the mode. In general, weather reports are historically misleading and for no reason at all, contain a lot of verbal chaff such as, “We will see a cooling down towards 15 degrees on in through the overnight.” What the heck is “the overnight”?
The majority of weathermen seem not to know how to communicate. [The suffix ‘men’ is a gender-neutral term for “people”. Weathermen does not mean Weathermales”. If you didn’t know that before, now you do.]
“They should say today it is 31 degrees which is within the normal range for this location.”
and for complete disclosure, they should add … However, the data set only describes 1% of the Holocene and is therefore statistically meaningless …
Crispin in Waterloo
“Today is the 27th of August. There may never have been a recorded high for today that matched the long term average high, because it is a mathematical construct, not the value of the mode.”
Without any knowledge of maths whatsoever, or much else for that matter, I made that point to someone elsewhere today and have made it a number of times over the past few years.
My perception is that one could travel the world in a millisecond and never encounter the ‘average’ temperature of the earth, anywhere on the earth. An average is, as you say, a mathematical construct.
Yet I see an enormous amount of climate science utterly reliant on one average or another to prove the concept of CAGW. Surely an average high or low temperature is meaningless to the human race, it’s the sustained period of high or low temperatures that’s important e.g. Roman and Medieval Warm Periods where sustained high temperatures were beneficial.
We have had sustained high(ish) temperatures in the UK for several weeks now (dropped suddenly over the past week) of 30 degrees C or so. Far fewer deaths caused by that than in the winter which was largely mild other than a few weeks of below zero temperatures.
Regardless, sea ice in the Canadian Arctic is such that the NW Passage is closed.
This ship of taxpayer-funded fools got stuck in ice near where Franklin did in the 1840s. Lucky for them, we now have the means of rescuing them.
Arctic sea ice extent yesterday was higher than on that date in 2007, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2016 and 2017.
Arctic sea ice summer minimum has been trending slightly upward since 2007, and growing since the 2012 record low. Even with two cyclones in 2016, that year didn’t even get as low as 2007, let alone 2012, in which years there was just one August cyclone.
I suggest these “Climate Warriors” consult with the Russian icebreaker fleet. I expect they have ice charts, that haven’t been … smoothed … by NASA, NOAA, etc.
And current depth charts too.
No kidding. Russia operates 40 icebreakers and 11 more planned or under construction. They well know what it’s going to take to drill the Arctic seabed for oil.
IIRC, Russia launched the biggest icebreaker ever built. The new ones are being built to break similar thickness ice. Must be getting really warm in the ice.
The warmth is causing more snowfall onto the Ice and allowing for thicker heavier warm ice to form instead of the thinner cold ice
Bryan A
What “warmth”??? – the arctic summer temperature forecasts at 80 degree north have not changed even 1/5 of 1 degree since 1957. And, in case you haven’t noticed, it is still mid-august up there. Temperatures are still right at their usual mid-summer points.
See the DMI long-term record.
Fair quibble, but ice volume, as opposed to extent, is a good indicator of ocean heat content, or lack of it.
I was just on that ship two weeks ago and there was abnormally heavy ice on the east side of Baffin, as well as in the area around Resolute. We couldn’t land anywhere on Baffin except Pang and Pond. We had to return to Pond Inlet after reaching Devon Island. What you say about localized areas matches what they talked about on the ship. Half the time we were just creeping along, and it was fairly intense on the bridge. I think the Captain is in his first year as a Captain. Fairly young, too.
Likely, an example of who drew the short straw to captain a vessel filled with rich lookee-lookees into a definitively icy Arctic.
Creeping is not a method to do major damage in a grounding.
Thick pack ice pushing a ship could cause damage to a ship between a rock and irresistible force.
Not likely… it’s actually a pretty darned good gig for a young Russian (the entire crew is Russian). From what I saw, if the ice got to more than, say, 30-40 percent, they’d move further out to sea. We were halfway to Greenland avoiding the ice along Baffin. They weren’t taking chances. I can’t say what happened in Boothie. Having seen the ice charts, I think they would have been better off not to leave Iqaluit in the first place.
Quite a vocal and opinionated lot here….
Using your definition it is ‘below normal’ since it is below the 2sd band for the last 30 years.
Clearly a plot by fossil fuel companies, funding denialist scum.
Also, heavier ice is predicted by climate change fon’t you know?
This ice in particular shows all the hallmarks of human generated CO2: it is not behaving as predicted by the climate faithful.
I hope the ring leaders if this latest stunt have child endangerment chsrges filed against them.
Scum bags.
engage a wide public audience through an extensive and unprecedented Internet presence from the area, including Facebook Live broadcasts from sea.
So what is this ‘Big Brother’ Arctic?
the University of Rhode Island’s Inner Space Center (ISC) – It’s All in Their Heads.
Yeah, two guys and four bitchin’ babes.
Stuck in the ice on a fully provisioned ship
For a long Arctic night.
Oh lord, what can one do???????
Yirgah, All I know is it’s not about sex these days. Heck they may all be of different genders, ya know diversity and all.
Makes it so much harder to find a partner these days.
You’re all getting carried away, what on Earth could a group of young women & young men possibly get up to stranded up there in all that cold?
The news report says the ship was grounded and refloated. That’s different from getting stuck in sea ice.
Grounded or stuck in sea ice – the only real difference is the blame. If they were stuck in ice, then it’s the fault of the organizers and planners who sent the ship into a dangerous situation. If it is truly just an ordinary grounding, then it is incompetence on the part of the captain and the crew, who had sea bed charts and sonar that should have kept them well away from waters that were too shallow for their craft. Now, it may be that sea ice forced them to take a route that was too shallow for the ship to safely navigate, and in that case everyone deserves a share of the blame.
My thoughts exactly.
If the vessel was mugged by ice pack, rather than running aground, the captain would be entitled to sue anyone who accused him of running his vessel aground, which is an inaccurate accusation of gross error on his part.
Better Call Saul.
“If it is truly just an ordinary grounding, then it is incompetence on the part of the captain and the crew, who had sea bed charts and sonar that should have kept them well away from waters that were too shallow for their craft. ”
It might come as a terrible shock to you, but charts of these waters are anything but reliable. Surveying waters that are (at best) ice-free for a few weeks per year is not easy. And in any case there is next to no shipping there.
Com’on Ed, you know the drill.
Technically, the term being being floated about (pun intended) is “grounded” not “stuck in Arctic ice.” One might reasonably suspect that it became grounded to avoid non-existent ice (pun intended), but we’ll have to see what the reports say.
Or more probably, ice was blocking their planed course, and trying to maneuver around the
blockage, they ventured into shallower waters and ran aground.
Yes, any ice would make the water surface uneven and it therefore would not be “planed.” However, I intended for the word “avoid” to include the meaning of “maneuver around” but maybe I should have avoided that ambiguity.
You could be right and perhaps even their planned course was blocked.
Strange from – “This ground-breaking opportunity is also supported by One Ocean Expeditions as a key marine partner, having operated in Arctic waters for over 20 years.”
I guess you could call digging up the seabed with your hull “ground-breaking.”
Ground-breaking! Ha ha ha! Geddit?
See the third photo down in the CBC article. Lots of fairly solid ice pack, could be a reason to try and skirt around it, then going aground.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/kugaaruk-passenger-ship-1.4798750
Ed MacAulay
From your link to the CBC article:
Wow. Follow the money, the luxury of these “intrepid adventures” teaching us by their example (of looking at the sea ice up outside their stateroom and heated Jacuzzi bath?) of the “evils” of Western society and fossil fuels. In many ways, I wish they had been stuck (safe but locked in) all winter, spring, and next summer waiting for their sea ice to melt and release them. If they were released even next August.
And notice the incredible amount of fossil fuel and energy and scarce resources needed to rescue them from the “pristine Arctic wasteland” they adore!
CBC is a major media Canadian news channel, much like BBC is for England.
This expedition is run by ‘OneOcean Expeditions‘, not by the CBC.
OneOcean might have signed a contract rate with NSF; but that is speculation at this point. There is a major difference between “funding from” NSF and NSF contracting with OnceOcean for reduced pricing.
OneOcean lists the going start rate for this fun trip to the Arctic as:
That start rate likely pays for one berth in a “Triple Share Cabin”
Several cabin upgrades up from that bottom level and one can journey in style using one of Akademik Ioffe’s “Shackleton Suites”
There are sites that provide better status on where Russian ships are located and their surrounding conditions. I did not locate one in my few minutes checking.
Those passengers that bought emergency Arctic Transport insurance will soon be very happy.
Here you can see the position of any commercial vessel in the world.
Unfortunately, if the vessel is out of AIS range (and they all are at most northern latitudes), then you need a $109 subscription to view the Sat location data. And yes, the Akademik Ioffe’s position is available by Sat…
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-122.9/centery:74.4/zoom:2
The CBC article includes a tweet that says:
“The Academik Ioffe ran aground at 69 43.0553N, 91 20.9521W around 11:30 AM Mountain Time. We are on a rock. No hull breach, no one hurt.”
That’s fairly specific. The location puts them between a cluster of islands and the mainland at the western edge of the Gulf of Boothia. Probably not a well charted area,
checked the location and made a cursory comparison with the currant ice chart. Much ice east if that location but not there. Suspect you are right re quality of charting as it is hard to conduct accurate surveys when the sea is covered with ice for much of the year. I suspect the efforts are concentrated in the most travelled areas.
Have you asked yourself why they were so close to shore.
Say what? They don’t have to be close to shore to run aground.
Below the picture it says Akademik Ioffe seen here in a promotional photo, so it is not a recent picture.
The Canadian Ice Service for 26 Aug shows no ice near Kugaaruk. Entrance to the Gulf of Boothia has ice.
https://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/WIS38CT/20180826180000_WIS38CT_0010200191.pdf
BTW Chris Turney wrote a book about his ordeal and came out last year.
ICED IN: TEN DAYS TRAPPED ON THE EDGE OF ANTARCTICA.
https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/iced-in-ten-days-trapped/9780806538525-item.html
All the news reports say they ran aground rather than being caught in the ice but I have a feeling its the latter not the former.
They have too much Space in their (upper) Inner Centers !
“You can choose to ignore reality, but you still suffer the consequences of ignoring reality”.
You can ignore reality, however reality will not ignore you.
This will not be the last ship full of fools.
“This will not be the last ship full of fools.”
Was this one ‘pier’ reviewed?
Buoy, that was a bad pun.
Holy stones, I was going to give a stern rebuke but as you mast-head that, I bow to your warped sense of humor.
Woof!
That sailed right over my head.
They should have invited a number of skeptics along and had a Social on the Promenade deck to help “Break the Ice”
You guys are cracking me up! 🙂
I guess you need Ice Breakers to get something out of the ground. Also, no information on damage. If you can’t tell if your own boat is sinking, how can you measure anything about climate.
National post says:
“Beaubien had no immediate information about whether the ship sustained any damage when it became grounded in the western Gulf of Boothia near Kugaaruk, Nunavut.”
“A pair of Canadian Coast Guard icebreakers had been headed to the area to offer assistance, and One Ocean Expeditions said in a media release Friday evening that the Akademik Ioffe’s sister ship, the Akademik Sergey Vavilov, was providing support and assistance.
One Ocean Expeditions also said there had been no report of any environmental concerns.”
Just a side note, if you plot the number of ships filled with fools over the last few decades, you would get a hockey stick.
Note that the sister ship is named after physicist Sergey Vavilov, younger brother of Nikolai Vavilov. The latter was the scientific opponent of the evil fraud, pseudoscientist Trofim Lysenko. Nikolai was a martyr to science, jailed by order of Stalin and starved to death in a Socialist prison. Vavilov had mentored Lysenko, who started his career as an ignorant peasant and ended it as an ignorant Socialist pawn.
A second ship of fools? Unprecedented. An emergent rule: After a “ship of fools” event, a second one will occur 5 years later at the opposite side of the Earth. [just like major earthquakes]
At last, an hypothesis which can be tested!
It can also be modeled; so we don’t need to wait another 5 years to see if it’s true.
Stupid is as stupid does, and you can’t fix stupid.
ONLY the most stupid people have to do something for themselves before they understand the facts and their implications, possibly. Higher levels of intelligence can understand at a distance given the facts and the science, and avoid expensive and dangerous consequences.
But hey, if someone else is paying, let’s be stupid together. Cool. I hope they have to pay for any rescue.
Sounds a lot like the basic principles of climate science funding. What do you want us to prove? That’ll be $Squillion please. Contract science.
HEY! Is there a NE passage? It appears so. If so, why is it not used, or is it?
Again it is a case of having to use lots of fossil fuel in order to study CAGW, oh the hypocrisy.
John you cant expect them to sail that far. Nor can you expect scientists to bike or walk to their conferences. Face it John, these people are fighting for our/their lives.
Derg
No. Not true.
These people are fighting for their beliefs (in Gaia, in a heaven-like pristine “Mother Nature” that never existed but in their minds, against technology and the West and the Western (capitalistic, heterosexual, white privileged, etc, etc) they hate,).
These people are fighting for the livelihoods (their “scientific” funding, their idealism and their theories they want to believe in, the taxes from carbon they want from other people, the carbon futures trading the international banking systems wants, the control carbon taxes and regulation gives the government…)
But they are NOT fighting for their lives. They ARE fighting so that others will die. Of thirst, parasites, disease, hunger, cold, heat due to their forced high energy prices and artificial restrictions on life and energy.
Sure they were “fighting for their lives”. Once they were stuck. Until then it was a pleasure cruise.
At least it wasn’t a three hour tour
No, it was a 24 hour tour, with a professional captain, in an ice breaker.
Everyone knows there’s no ice left in the Arctic waters (except for that nasty Rotten Ice) they need to build Ground Breakers.
Now that would be a ground breaking invention.
You know, you throw a half dozen failures at the ice and it gets swept under the rug. The first time they manage to succeed it’ll be “proof” of their contention and sung from the rooftops.
“The first time they manage to succeed…”
LOL, how long do we have to wait?
This isn’t just about ships. Every year there seem to be adventurers who travel to the Arctic, expeditions to the North Pole are popular. Even the ones who are well prepared and know what they’re doing can end up in serious trouble.
My favorite idiot was the doofus who tried to ride a motorcycle to the North Pole. He had the brilliant idea to store chocolate bars in his tires. There’s a link but there seems to be a problem with the web page.
“Little Shop of Horrors” ? I can see hear ” Candy bar! “
More like Polar Distress
Top Gear driving the HILUXES to the North Pole was the best polar expedition of all time.
They travelled to the Magnetic North Pole. It’s hundreds of miles south of the real North Pole. link
The alarmists condemned the expedition.
OMG, facepalm.
I guess we were lucky that no polar bears were shot in the making of this student propaganda venture.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/29/polar-bear-shot-dead-after-attacking-cruise-ship-guard-in-norway
Send the bill to Rhode Island.
Yes, and get Shelly Whitehouse to organize a parade. Climate models show the expedition was a complete success!
A fool and our money are soon parted…
Open an investigation into NSF funding for endangering students in post-El Nino conditions.
My immediate thought on seeing that sentence was “What is the NSF involved in this boondoggle for?”
“. . . because one boondoggle cannot distinguish itself from another.
There’s a lot of swamp that still needs draining.
See….the global warming carbon tax is working 😉
I am always astounded that whenever this happens and it seems to happen quite often that not one of the “scientists’ studying global warming when they get trapped in the ice say anything like “maybe we should rethink this whole global warming thing”
They’ll just say this just proves global warming, or something like that.
The old phase was ‘consistent with’ the non-falseafiable hypothesis
TheOldBear
“The old phase was ‘consistent with’ the non-falseafiable hypothesis”
Noted and appreciated – but . . . .
A newer phrase is –
“Not inconsistent with2 the non-falsifiable hypothesis.
I suppose I should add – ‘Just Sayin’
Auto
Why would they do that Elmer? Clearly an adjustment is necessary here. The trip was a success, the boat wasn’t grounded after all ( just some skeptic in denial reporting fake news, the Arctic is in fact ice free ), and nobody had to be rescued.
Hilarious
I thought the initial plan was to avoid this kind of ‘grounding’ to sail around in a big circle near, not in the ice. If you’re delusional, go all the way. Sail around the Caribbean and call it the Arctic. Then you can say, ” no ice, very warm waters, and no polar bears “
Proof that knowing history does not in any way keep you from repeating it.
“On its website, the tour operator – One Ocean Expeditions – describes the 117-metre Akademik Ioffe as a “modern, comfortable, safe and ice-strengthened” vessel that can host 96 passengers and 65 staff and crew.”
Apparently no so much. How does a modern ship run aground? Perhaps the navigator was a video game player and didn’t realize that in real life there is no “reset game” button.
Notwithstanding the advent of GPS and chart plotters, knowledge, experience and good judgment remain essential to safe piloting and navigation.
In fact, there are many who will assert that it was the very introduction of GPS and electronic navigation that have resulted in a serious diminution of the skills necessary for safe piloting and navigation.
And those are only as good as the last time their data was updated. A recent landslide, glacier calving, or other topographical disruption can significantly alter a shoreline and its depth contour, and it may be many hours before a fresh pass from a satellite logs the new data.
Perhaps the Russians hacked the GPS signal.
Yeah. Particularly for a russian ship. Though they may have been using Glonass instead.
No glaciers near Boothia Gulf. But recently glaciated areas are often very difficult for navigation with very rugged bottom topography. Take a look att Norway or Sweden for example.
On youtube, there are a few hour or so long vids of Russian voyages to the North Pole from about 2015 onwards. The Russian ice breakers, such as the Yamal do these voyages during the summer ‘off season’ period.
What they do, apart from radar etc. is, weather permitting, launch their helicopter and fly in front of the Yamal looking for leads and/or pressure ridges.
Swedish icebreaker Odin is at the North Pole on a research cruise now. The captain reports extremely difficult ice conditions, the worst for 15 years. They had difficulty reaching the pole even with hcp/uav scouting and even though Odin is the most powerful non-nuclear icebreaker in the World.
“In fact, there are many who will assert that it was the very introduction of GPS and electronic navigation that have resulted in a serious diminution of the skills necessary for safe piloting and navigation.”
I doubt it in this case. I’ve stood on the bridge of a sister ship in the Antarctic. They used GPS yes, but they carefully plotted their progress on a paper chart as well, and took frequent bearings on landmarks. And had two lookouts with binoculars posted. And this was in deep waters (at least according to the chart).
Hi Tom, I think they may be building a “case”.
If it was grounding there would be an investigation and the Captain could be in deep sh!t. With ice locking the ship up, the Captain and ship owners could blame the Univ and the climate scientists involved.
Think about it climate scientists state sea ice is diminishing and thus the knowledge and experience of the Captain and ship owners are irreverent. Instead the ship gets locked up in ice. The institutions can be sued for damages to the ship, the shipping companies reputation and loss of revenue. Grounding dumps the responsibility back on the ship owners and protects the reputation of the “scientists”.
This could get interesting. One of the things not discussed is how are the parents of the students going to react? Some will realize that their child was put at risk and want to get answers. Some of the students will also start asking themselves questions. Not at this time but the seed has been planted.
In the end the students got themselves an “education”. Some will profit from it some will not.
michael
Start asking themselves questions? Unlikely in the extreme. True believers don’t let reality change their minds.
…will conduct the innovative Northwest Passage Project research expedition with a team of natural and social scientists, students, and a professional film crew.
So, of what use are social scientists on this expedition? As has been said, “Going on an expedition without a Sociologist is like going hunting without your accordion”. Actual scientists doing actual science might have known they weren’t going to get through, instead of relying on 15 year old claims by Al Gore.