Here in California, we have one of the more deluded Governors in history, Jerry Brown. He has gotten his sobriquet “Governor Moonbeam” the old fashioned way … he earned it honestly through things like maniacally supporting his multibillion-dollar “Bullet Train To Nowhere“, and plenty more craziness-du-jour.
But I never thought that even Governor Moonbeam could be this far detached from reality. Here’s what he said two weeks ago on C-SPAN.
So climate now causes terrorism, and that’s just for starters. The real news is that “three billion people”, almost half of the population of the planet, will die from “fatal lethal heat events”.
I suppose that’s as opposed to those dying from non-fatal lethal heat events, but still … say what???
Riiight … welcome to Californistan, where even the Governor is clearly smoking something.
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Global Warmism can only exist when it jumps the shark. Because the rest of us haven’t noticed. Anything. Untorrid. Happening. At. All.
Yo! Moonbeam… Baby!
You’ve got it all backwards – like, I mean, y’know, you’ve californicated the data! Again! Like, I mean, totally!
Twenty times more people die from cold than die from heat – about 2 million Excess Winter Deaths every year worldwide – one hundred thousand of them in the good ol’ US of A! That’s two 9-11’s per week for 17 weeks every year!
Do the math! Oops, sorry Moonbeam baby – you don’t do math? You just go with what feels right, er… left?
What-evverrr!
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COLD WEATHER KILLS 20 TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE AS HOT WEATHER
By Joseph D’Aleo and Allan MacRae, September 4, 2015
https://friendsofsciencecalgary.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/cold-weather-kills-macrae-daleo-4sept2015-final.pdf
[excerpt]
Cold weather kills. Throughout history and in modern times, many more people succumb to cold exposure than to hot weather, as evidenced in a wide range of cold and warm climates.
Evidence is provided from a study of 74 million deaths in thirteen cold and warm countries Including Thailand and Brazil, and studies of the United Kingdom, Europe, the USA, Australia and Canada.
Contrary to popular belief, Earth is colder-than-optimum for human survival. A warmer world, such as was experienced during the Roman Warm Period and the Medieval Warm Period, is expected to lower winter deaths and a colder world like the Little Ice Age will increase winter mortality, absent
adaptive measures. These conclusions have been known for many decades, based on national mortality statistics.
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In Europe, where green energy schemes have been widely implemented, the result is higher energy costs that are unaffordable for the elderly and the poor, and increased winter deaths. European politicians are retreating from highly-subsidized green energy schemes and returning to fossil fuels. When misinformed politicians fool with energy systems, innocent people suffer and die.
[end of excerpt]
Rain was stolen today from SoCal through geoengineering desiccants. It’s the only reason we are in a drought.
Not true! I have noticed the change in global warming. When I was 5 years old, the snow used to come up to my waist! It was exhausting plowing through it on the way to school two blocks away.
Now the snow rarely comes above my knees. I can walk miles through that measly amount of snow, burdened with a hunting rifle and backpack – despite being in my mid-60’s.
I’d say it’s all perception, but down deep, I think it’s mostly deception.
Excellent! I see what you did there.
Jerry Brown has been called “Moonbeam” since his first term in the 1970’s. He has a long history of crackpottery.
He explains nicely why we need the train to nowhere and water tunnels under the delta.
Yeah, I lived a few blocks from where he had a mattress on the floor of an apartment (instead of the Governors Mansion) when he was hanging out with Linda Ronstadt. I’ve (unfortunately) had a front row seat to his entire “career”.
At first I thought maybe had some kind of “cool factor”; after all, he bagged Linda and got the Governor’s job… then I realized that no, it was just the people of California laughing all the way to the voting booth…
Jerry never “lost the plot”; he’s never HAD the plot in the first place. Just a bid joke gone on too long and lost the giggle factor…
Cracked me up Willis. That’s a keeper. A few one-liners in there that need preserving. I have been laughing so much my dog’s looking at me with her head tipped to one side …
“the Governor is clearly smoking something.”
At least, it’s not illegal.
No, it’s still illegal (a State law cannot override a Federal law, and Federal law makes possession or consumption of pot illegal). The laws just are not enforced in CA.
If the constitution does not give the Feds specific responsibility and authority to make laws on something, then all other power and rights remain with the State or the People.
Stock – the Interstate Commerce clause in the Constitution has been used by the feds to rule over most everything. They can even put limits on what and how much you can grow in your own home garden for personal consumption. Pot is still illegal by federal law, and no state can change that.
If Washington wanted to end the sales, all they need do is tell banks they are going to enforce the drug money laundering laws if they service businesses that produce, distribute, or sell pot.
Notice that the Constitution grants the Federal Government the Power to regulate INTERSTATE commerce, but there’s no Federal power to regulate INTRASTATE commerce.
Amendment 10 ” The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Incidentally, that would also apply to gun laws, and to ALL drugs, as the writers of the 18th amendment knew. The Federal Government has been passing and enforcing unconstitutional laws at least since the start of the New Deal.
Jtom, that the federal government has given up all pretense of actually following the constitution is not in dispute.
Alan, unfortunately the supreme court has ruled that when you buy something grown instate, that means you didn’t buy something that was grown out of state, which means that you have impacted interstate commerce, which means the federal government can regulate it.
Mak W. I know! That ruling came during the FDR administration. That’s why I added the qualifier, “The Federal Government has been passing and enforcing unconstitutional laws at least since the start of the New Deal.”
He’s been hanging out with Tommy Chong for too long. Heck, Tommy makes more sense than the gov does.
It’s an environmental problem. Henry Waxman was a California congressman with a similar grasp on reality:
“We’re seeing the reality of a lot of the North Pole starting to evaporate, and we could get to a tipping point. Because if it evaporates to a certain point – they have lanes now where ships can go that couldn’t ever sail through before. And if it gets to a point where it evaporates too much, there’s a lot of tundra that’s being held down by that ice cap”
“fatal lethal heat events”…and for every one of those fatal lethal heat events…there is someone, somewhere living just fine where it’s hotter
Just consider the Jack London short story, “To Build A Fire.” In that story, a man hiking through the Yukon dies from cold before he can reach his camp a few miles away. If instead of being Arctic cold it had been Death Valley heat, all the traveler would have needed would have been a bit of a sun shade and some water to stay hydrated, and he would have been fine.
The dog was smarter than he was.
as are those experiencing non-fatal lethal heat events.
lethal
adjective
sufficient to cause death.
PLEASE can we start teaching rhetoric in schools again?
I know the lefties eliminated it for their own agenda but it’s becoming absurdly apparent there’s a real need for it to be added to the pile of ‘things we need to teach our offspring’ along with critical thinking and comprehension. In Australia the justification for it’s removal according to teachers was “it was too difficult to teach” . yah, I sure bet it was for them – hard to do things that stick in your throat..
Soon Calizuela will go broke. Brown will blame it on insufficient socialism.
Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-browns-legacy-a-6-1-billion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022
Projected . RCP8.5 ….Or LSD ?
too funny…when he collected $135 billion by raising taxes….again
Funny…the projection was a $19.3B surplus back in January.
They’ve been projecting a surplus every year that MoonBeam has been governor.
Hasn’t actually happened yet.
Last I heard, they are projecting 10’s of thousands of the richest Californians are looking to move out of state because they can no longer deduct all of their CA taxes.
Of course there is that multi-billion dollar gorilla known as CalPERS lurking in the background.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/12/18/borenstein-calpers-about-to-bury-taxpayers-cities-counties-in-more-debt/
The money is there. It’s just hiding in the ocean.
Really?
So when do CA taxpayers get their refunds?
BTW:
I suggest ‘reallyskeptical’ look at CA state pension funds massive deficits.
How’s that bullet train doing that’s billions in the red?
On & on, there’s plenty more.
What “surplus”?
reallyskeptical,
Brown’s legacy of higher income taxes is why Cali has a short term surplus. Keyword: short term.
But long-term, things are headed in the wrong direction for Cal. The fact that state and local tax (SALT) deductions for Federal taxes is capped at $10K will mean Moonbeam’s taxes are going to send high income earners fleeing in the next few years. The net outflow of high and middle class eaners while there is a net inflow of more homeless demanding social services spells doom for California’s finances in a couple more years. It will also likely lead to California’s first ever loss of a Congressional seat after the 2020 census to Texas.
The money is in the banana stand
Interesting one can have a surplus when one also has $400 billion in debt and unfunded liabilities. Gotta love government math!
Strictly speaking, he said 3 billion people will be “subject to” said heat events. Not die from them.
That’s loonie enough without exaggerating what he said.
“Fatal heat events” is what he said. That means heat events that kill. Three billion people.
Worse, he said “fatal lethal heat events”.
Is fatal lethal worse than just fatal alone?
Fortunately Moonbeam didn’t specify WHEN these fatalities and other bad things will occur. Given a few hundred billion years all the things he said will come to pass — but it ain’t going to happen next week, next year or even next century. And it won’t happen all at once. One a year for a billion years is a billion dead people.
It’s like what Spinal Tap said about their speakers. All the other bands’ speakers only go to 10. Spinal Tap’s speakers go to 11, so their speakers are 1 better.
Fatal heat events are bad. Fatal lethal heat events are one badder than fatal heat events.
Thank you, Spinal Tap.
“Spinal Tap’s speakers go to 11”
A volume control is just a potentiometer (variable resistor) so when it’s at max it actually does nothing, the signal going straight through. At lower settings it reduces the signal. Hence you could label it whatever you want. 42 is apparently very effective.
In any case, a volume control alters the gain of the amplifier, not its maximum power output. Too much gain will result in clipping of the signal. Actual max power is determined by the DC supply voltage and load (speaker, or transformer plus speaker) impedance.
Just thought I’d set the record straight on that one.
If a fatal lethal heat event happens and no-one is there, does it still cause a death?
If they experience a heat event, and then die many years later, was it still a fatal lethal event?
MarkW – “Fatal lethal” is four times as bad as just ‘fatal’ or ‘lethal’. This is due to the inverse-square law effect. There is a diminishing effect the further you get from the hot air of Sacramento.
If I’m understanding English, if I’m subject to a “fatal lethal event”, I’ll die.
w.
I think it has to kill only one being, not even necessarily a person, to be fatal.
If we talk about a fatal traffic accident, it doesn’t mean that everyone involved dies, just one person but technically it could be a cow that died. link 🙂
So, actually, if just one living thing dies from a heat even ALL MANKIND is subject to a fatal lethal heat event. It’s WORSE than we thought!
Commie, by your definition, everyone who has ever been in a heat wave, arctic blast, flood, hurricane, you name it, would satisfy moonbeam’s assertion. That would be almost everyone on the planet for the history of man.
Is ‘fatal’ used differently for traffic accidents and climate events?
You die twice.
Lethal means capable of inflicting fatalities, (it could kill you): the capacity to cause death or serious harm or damage.
You could receive lethal dose, but do not die (but that simply means the lethality rate was over estimated?)
A fatal dose kills you. Fatal means it was the end for someone. But, if it wasn’t you, it wasn’t fatal.
Well, the double death thing makes that assumption complicated. If you consider death a negative, it would be a double negative…
I think a “fatal lethal event” can cause you to die to death.
If you have a fatal lethal event you die twice and that cancels out James Bond’s You only Live Twice.
Commie Bob,
If we want to parse it, you are off to the right start. A fatal event will cause at least one death and 2,999,999,999 people may be on the periphery of the death event.
But a lethal dose means your are dead; a lethal event is not survivable.
So, he said (if’n we don’t change our ways) there WILL be 3 billion people subject to fatal AND lethal heat events. If someone is subject to a lethal heat event then that someone will die.
commieBob, but it’s not just “Fatal” it’s also “Lethal” – to 3 billion people. That’s a lot of fatal lethal deaths!
Does sunburn qualify as a ‘heat event’?
Only if you blister.
yes, but is it a fatal lethal heat event? 😉
He said “3 billion people on this planet will be subject to fatal lethal heat events”. I can read the Queen’s English and that statement means 3 billion people will die.
It is even worse than that. The entire 7.6 billion population of the planet will be dead in about a century and without doubt lethal heat events will kill part of them. We must do something.
Of course lethal cold events will kill even more, but let’s not be bothered by details.
Intentional ambiguity
I’ll be dead in a century.
It will not be due to heat.
Correct. Brown should have said, and probably meant, “potentially fatal lethal heat events”
@roger Knights;
Double-plus ungood?
Canada can handle 3 billion, no problem. /sarc
Alive or dead ???
preferred dead, alive people are always so needy. But we will just stack them way up north, then the starving polar bears can survive. That should please all the greens, 3 billion fewer people and helping the polar bears that they seem to think are the most important animal on the planet. A win win.
I can’t grasp the depths of this climate delusion…..
‘A lie, told often, can become the truth.” It can’t be that simple!
Is Gov. Brown, like so many others, just ‘selling the long con’ or does he really believe the ‘Portents Of Doom’ in the adjusted data and inflated climate models he sees in his fevered dreams?
I think Jerry is a True Believer.
I think Jerry is a true wanker.
Agreed. Moonbeam swallowed the hook.
He gargled the KoolAid.
Yes but there are millions like him maybe billions. Everyone that believes in CAGW is just as bad as Governor Moonbeam. The majority of this planet needs serious psychological help.
I am starting to wonder which is more powerful? The BIG LIE as told by Joseph Goebbels and the CAGW crowd OR the Boy who cried Wolf. I had always thought that if you cried Wolf often enough then soon noone would believe. However the global warming hoax is different. Every failed forecast is doubled down bybthe CAGW crowd and the forecasts get worse and worse. Notice that Moonbeam didnt give a date this time. It is always we will soon all be overcome by CAGW with the emphasis on SOON. Without a date we cant throw it back at them later.
Governor Moonbeam was a Jesuit seminarian, which is telling. As a teenager I was subjected to several incendiary “hell-fire & brimstone” sermons from traveling priestly Jesuit orators … sitting in the front row of the congregation, it never occurred to these folk that the intense concentration on my face was due to mental math exercises. This antidote worked like a charm then and it’ll work like a charm with Governor Moonbeam.
Hmmmm. I’m not so sure the governor has lost the plot. The plot has always been CAGW will destroy everything unless we hand over control of everything to these planet-saving angels.
What a horrifying thought. I can’t fathom how moonbeam is still in power. Are Californians so deluded to vote for this guy time and time again, or is there some other mechanism that keeps him in power?
Indeed there is another mechanism keeping him in power. Until Brown was Governor the first time, public sector unions were against the law. He pushed through the law authorizing the formation of the unions.
Ever since then, the unions have used their fat paychecks to contribute to the union, and the union has used its fat budget to buy votes to keep liberals in office, in particular Jerry Brown. The SIPEU has immense power in California, and their pensions are truly obscene (3% of their salary times years worked, after 30 years that’s 90%). These pensions will eventually bankrupt the state, but Brown doesn’t care, he’ll be out of office by then.
More details here …
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The democrats need something to blame for all the disasters their socialist policies bring about. And they’ve latched onto “climate change” “caused” by modern industry as their scapegoat.
No problem. Nuclear is coming:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/30/607088530/russia-launches-floating-nuclear-power-plant-its-headed-to-the-arctic
I was not aware that floating nuclear power plants were coming to replace floating wind turbines.
Very interesting a “floating nuclear plant” and more apparently coming. NPR ahead of the game following new clean energy source.
At least it’s relocatable; if that’s useful. Connecting the main cable to the local power transfer station would be interesting though.
I was reading about a Russian floating power plant just a couple of days ago.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/30/607088530/russia-launches-floating-nuclear-power-plant-its-headed-to-the-arctic
Truly an interesting concept. A relocatable power plant floating atop good cold source for cooling. It can probably desalinate a considerable amount of sea water for potable usage as well as all the power.
Isn’t that what a big nuclear ship is anyway? Ask any seaman aboard one of these and they’ll assure you there is no shortage of hot fresh water showers.
Jerry Brown is a “religious” fanatic of sorts who believes his own gloom and doom nonsense. If it’s not climate change, it will be something else. Maybe racism against little green men.
Maybe it was a typo and Governor Train Wreck meant that 3 billion people will die from “fatal lethal heart events”. In his state, they might have heart attacks when they get their tax bills.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, it snowed in Salt Lake City today, the last day of April. If anybody slid off the road, it could have been fatal and/or lethal, but it wouldn’t be a heat event.
> it wouldn’t be a heat event.
You’re clearly missing the point. Late snow is absolutely a (reduced) heat event. Obviously there wouldn’t be snow in April if it weren’t for anthropogenic CO2 initiating global warming that caused climate change which induced that cold weather!
No problemo. Three billion can move into San Francisco. It’s progressive.
Max Photon,
…and live on the streets like the rest of the homeless and turn SF into a progressive, outdoor, open sewer. Yay!
Think of it as cross-fertilization.
Call it progressive shitholization. Hereafter registered trademark. BTW, it is properly “problema”. Problems are feminine in Spanish, as is the male proboscis, “verga”. You figure it out…
Thanks for correcting that. I knew that at one point.
Damn that CO₂ … I mean … CA₂
And the gated communities of the virtue-signalers who let them in will have to upgrade to domed communities to keep the ever-rising stench out.
We ain’t seen nothing yet–wait until Newsom gets elected!
Jerry Brown started out as a Jesuit. So the prediction of the End Days in various incantations come easily to him, and when there are no facts, that is irrelevant, he has his faith.
Every person who ever lived is subject to a fatal lethal heat event. First your body ceases to function and then the heat leaves your body leaving you fatally dead. Or if you are Canadian, first the heat leaves your body, your body ceases to function and then you are lethally fatally dead.
Shoulda seen Bill McKibbin of 350.org fame on the Tom Ballard Show last night, every time he opened his mouth a new lie came out.
Er…Why? (I mean why watch him?)
so basically business as usual for the weepy one.
You know that ethics scenario about the people standing on the track in front of a run-away trolley? Is it okay to push the fat innocent by-stander onto the track to stop the trolley that would have killed the five other people who were standing on the track? It’s murder right but it’s for a good cause right, you saved the five who were standing on the track. That is what bothers me about this kind of talk. You can justify any bad behavior if it is to save 3 billion people. I wonder if that is the point. He is setting up the moral basis for killing in the name of the climate. Soon there will be some bombings and the warmists will say something like ‘well we are sorry people had to die but ….’
I have always heard an old saying, paraphrased of course: “never trust anyone who is doing Gods work or trying to save the world, because the ends can justify any means”.
Don’t double literals cancel each other? Kind of like a double negative nor a double positive?
For example, yeah, right?
Willis, you do know that the “Governor Moonbeam” sobriquet was applied to him back in his first round of being the governor of California, right? You also know that the bullet train was approved by voters in 2008, two years before he became governor in his current term, right?
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/weekinreview/07mckinley.html
Rattus Norvegicus
You do know Willis didn’t accuse Gov Moonbeam of starting the train to nowhere (he continues to support it).
You do know willis didn’t say Brown earned the “Moonbeam” label recently; only that he continues to deserve it.
Got it?
In a 2008 California voters approved a $9.8 billion dollar bond fund for a $33B high-speed rail project linking LA & SF, They did not vote for a “high-speed ready” rail project linking Madera and Bakersfield.
The California High-Speed Rail Authority is currently being audited by Federal Government to see where the federal matching funds went. This project will never be completed. And if it actually was, no one would use it, when a cheap flight on Southwest Airlines from LA to SF only takes an hour.
Moonbeam the Prophet is nowhere near as clairvoyant as Barry the One True One…”the cost of electricity will necessarily skyrocket”.
“We have to bankrupt coal mines and coal plants by regulation.”
(passes lots of “regulations” on coal)
“We have NOTHING to do with the decline of the coal industry and loss of jobs. Implying otherwise makes you a statist, a backward looking person, someone who doesn’t understand technological progress, the energy industry, economy, or anything.”
Governor Brown has unleashed hell on the citizens of California. Three different prisoner release schemes have flooded communities with transients and felons. All the while taking revenue from communities to address the problems he and Sacramento have created. However, when it comes to Climate Change he may be crazy like a fox. It is no accident that the seat of disruptive technology and much of the venture capital to exploit disruption of energy markets is located not far from Sacramento in Silicon Valley. Given the political leanings of California tech, political contributions and the desire of the tech masters of the universe to disrupt another major industry (energy being the grandaddy of them all), it appears that Brown is attempting to turn the seventh largest economy on the planet into an exclusive domain for green energy. He knows a things or two about the utility of the Big Lie repeated often.
I guess those were “non violent” criminals.
Like giving away crack to schoolchildren: non violent, right?