This came to me via a tip, but to be honest I get so many daily emails and comments I’ve lost the original source of the tip.
This is via the Canadian Ice Service, and it’s a view I have not seen before. It shows a polar view looking down at the North pole which is a composite of several days worth of MODIS views via NASA Goddard to create a Composite of the Arctic image. The actual image is very high resolution and I can’t show it fully here, but the detail is quite good. To help orient you, I’ve annotated some landmarks on this preview image.
You can see the full image here, and click the image again to zoom in on it. The sheer magnitude of area covered by ice and snow is quite impressive, and it’s a useful image to show to “I read the headline only” alarmists who believe that the North pole is either burning up, missing most of its ice and snow, or both.
I’d love to include this on the WUWT sea ice page, but unfortunately, Environment Canada has chosen to produce this image from a Perl Script, rather than an image URL, and I have no way that I know of to parse the most current image out of the URL:
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl?prodid=MODISCOM-T&wrap=0&lang=en
If anyone has any ideas, please leave a comment.
All that ice north of us acts like a big slip and slid that allows for that cold Hudson Bay air to race down to Chicagoland. So far this April, we have averaged 36.9F, which puts us second coldest as 1881 was the coldest but we beat 1884. We have been colder than Anchorage Alaska this month. That MJO in phase 3 just opened the barn doors and made me shovel the driveway this morming. What’s up with that? Just image how much colder we could have been if it wasn’t for Global Warming, or Climate Change or whatever they call it now. Stay warm my friends!
1000 miles West of you and a little North with very much the same story. Much below normal here for the past two months. Yet the anomaly maps show we are warmer than normal! Nowhere near correct.
Two words my friends, PEAK ICE!
IMO, the multidecadal build started in 2012 and should run until c. 2042+/-.
Peak ice should occur around then, then decline for ~30 years, then gain again to round out the century in a too icy world, as at the turn of the 19th to 20th centuries, 18th to 19th and 17th to 18th (Maunder Minimum).
Nice image.
Thanks.
I am unfamiliar with WordPress markup rules. Are IMG tags allowed directly?
no
Bummer, I can host a scaled down image in .jpg format if you wish. Since the perl script returns a byte stream, I’ll have to do a little programming, but I don’t mind. Might take another day or so before I can get to it if you are interested.
By the way, the image is not present in the url. The url is actually a web service (SOAP/ReST) in which everything after the ? are name/value pairs, ie. prodid=MODISCOM-T is telling the web service (PERL Script) to return a product id of MODISCOM-T. If you are interested, the following url describes the web service’s parameters: http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl
There are other solutions that I can provide (at no cost). Are you running on a Windows, Linux or Apple box?
Looking at the help page for the image service that Troy linked…
This URL gives you a listing of available images for that particular service product:
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl?prodid=MODISCOM-T&format=jpg&q=all
Clicking on one image, you may notice that URL is the actual image file. This is the one you posted in the article:
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/MODISCOM-T/20180416000000_MODISCOM-T_0009985850.jpg
I can check if the server has Indexes off by removing the image from URL.
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/MODISCOM-T/
And, it looks like the server allows listing of all the files in directory.
With a little bit of coding, it is possible to retrieve the latest image and transfer it to your WordPress blog… however, it may be a good idea to check if the data owner is OK with that first.
If all you want to do is retrieve the latest image manually, you can use this link:
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl?prodid=MODISCOM-T&format=jpg&wrap=0
**** I remember some problem relating to updating http linked images vs. https linked images. It doesn’t look like the given subdomain has a https link available.
This one line BASH script will return the actual URL to the latest image:
curl -s -d "prodid=MODISCOM-T&format=jpg&q=all" http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl |grep -m 1 href | awk -v baseurl="http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca" -F '"' '{print baseurl $2}'
If you have a GNU/Linux box with curl, grep, and awk installed … you can simply copy the one-liner and hit enter to obtain the URL.
This next line will return all the image links:
curl -s -d "prodid=MODISCOM-T&format=jpg&q=all" http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl |grep href | awk -v baseurl="http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca" -F '"' '{print baseurl $2}'
It’s the same except leaving off the “-m 1” option in grep.
As a .png, it is over 13MB, and it doesn’t look like the resolution comes out any better than the .jpg.
Rob,
IMO it’s pretty easy to make out the coastlines.
For me, parts of it are as easy as the continental coastlines, but other parts less so. However, IMO pretty much all the coastlines are discernible, especially in high res,
Please go to the Canadian link and maximize.
To me, the GIS is discernible as the whitest portion. The intermittent ice caps and fields on the coastal areas show up in different shades of white, the snowy uniced over land in yet another and sea ice still another shade.
Rob Bradley April 19, 2018 at 5:52 pm
They are close enough for government work, although granted, NIST is also a government entity.
“.IMO it’s pretty easy to make out the coastlines”
In some areas (e. g. Greenland) yes, but in northern Siberia the “coastline” is actually the edge of the fast ice. For example Severnaya Zemlya looks like part of the “mainland”.
Rob Bradley,
Not sure what you’re talking about, but I see a pretty good representation of mountains and valleys.
tty April 20, 2018 at 2:38 am
If you go to the full image link and zoom in, the Siberian coast is distinguishable from the shorefast ice around the Arctic Islands.
I also can clearly discern the coastlines. But if you cannot, here is what you do: Go get your globe, and set it next to the screen you are looking at.
Anyplace that shows as land on the globe is snow and land ice coverage, and all the places that show as water on the globe are sea ice on the corresponding map/picture screenshot.
Places that are not white are not snow or ice.
You will get the hang of it Robby…just keep coming back and we shall walk you through it at your own pace.
It just takes some people longer…do not feel bad or inadequate.
Menicholas – if the planet is warming slowly and the global circulations are gaining energy slightly (not easy to quantify) – polar air will be brought down more quickly (to the southeast) by the winter sequence of more intense cold core lows? Warmer oceans = higher snow amounts. Stronger trajectories vs modification = an increase in cold records being broken. This is speculative.
I there any way to tell how much of the white is ice and how much clouds?
One would expect that if any portion of the image were clouds with no snow or ice underneath, it would show somewhere on the Southern edge of the image. It does not. So I assume it is all ice and snow.
I think none of it is clouds…that is one reason for stitching together a composite.
And the extent and persistence of clouds in these regions in Winter is one reason why overhead satellite photos cannot be used to directly visualize daily ice extent.
It is just really cloudy up there in Winter.
Definitely a late winter in the NH with that being a true snapshot of mid April with a very high Albedo, especially with the SH rapidly slipping into fall/winter. Since weather generally goes in a trend, I am sure hoping this isn’t the start of the dreaded cooling trend. It will knock the socks off of CAGW, but everyone will suffer in a cooling world for the next 30 years.
Socks-knocking-off would be the silver lining to the cloud of cooling.
IMO, but for the super El Nino of 2015-16, the cooling would already be evident, as shown by Arctic sea ice surge since 2012 and a host of other data.
Perl is disgusting. It’s good for writing obfuscated code. That’s a bad thing.
Programs almost never exist for long without requiring ‘maintenance’. Code that is hard to understand is unmaintainable (even by the person who wrote it). Edsger W. Dijkstra makes the point eloquently in his essay “Go To Statement Considered Harmful”. Code must be readable by humans.
Perl is easily the most disliked language. link
Government of Canada computer services are really bad. link, link The existence of a Perl script is a symptom. Yech!
Given the choice of a 50 line Perl script and a 5000 line ‘C’ program, neither of which I’d seen before and told to make a quick change in it. I’d pick the ‘C’ program every day.
This is heavily off-topic, but given the very different nature of languages, I think, comparing them is not that practical. I’d say well-written 5000 lines of Perl are more capable of doing things than 5000 lines of C, so it might be the 5000 lines of C are equal to 2500 lines of Perl. I think the wood for trees daemon makes a good case of this.
Professionally, I have started to enjoy C++. But it depends on what one does. The last thing I want to do is to maintain code that’s been put together in haste, unprofessionally. Climate models anyone? Well, not necessarily all of them are as bad. I’ve heard only rumours from more than a decade ago. OTOH, code has a long lifetime.
The density of Perl comes from the heavy use of libraries. I can shrink a ‘C’ program by offloading portions of it to a library as well.
Why is that!?
Are you measuring sea ice grids?
Very doubtful.
It is an excellent map of the North polar area.
Especially since that massive white area absorbs very little sunlight.
Making any cries of “cherry picking” sheer laziness and prejudice.
Rob,
As noted, I can indeed discern the differences among snow on land, isolated ice on land, the Greenland Ice Sheet and sea ice. You could too if you took the time to look.
Rob really does work hard to explain away anything that doesn’t support his religion.
Even if he has to make it up on the spot.
Utter ignorance, falsehoods and specious strawmen are your only methods.
Map, definition according to Merriam-Webster
As expected, rbby’s (rb bradley), twisted belief and incorrect knowledge of words and their meanings is wrong.
Then there is rbby’s “cherry picking claim, where rbby wants next summer’s polar map instead of April 18th’s polar map.
It’s rbby who demands his preferred cherry pick.
Loser.
Snow and ice reflect sunlight. Greater area of snow/ice cover causes a much greater loss of incoming solar energy.
Contrary to warmist religious beliefs, CO₂ is unable to manufacture heat by itself. Leaving the polar regions without even the miniscule amount of warming 0.04% CO₂ could manage.
Thicker ice over a larger area, cold Arctic temperatures, near total loss of incoming Arctic solar energy; makes it out to be a very long dismal summer for warmists wishing Arctic ice will vanish.
Frankly, we’d all appreciate a little warming and Arctic wildlife, just as all of Earth’s wildlife, will prosper.
Only, CO₂ just isn’t the warming engine warmists claim.
Just as activists incorrectly predicted an early spring this year, it appears warmists will maintain their 0.0% successful predictive skills throughout 2018.
rbby take the customary adolescent alarmist position of “double down” and refuse to admit error. rbby’s attempt in this matter is all bluster, bluff and vacuous ignorance.
rbby does this by refusing an official dictionary’s word definitions and the customary colloquial meanings for “map”.
rbby, uses the logical fallacy of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam (appeal to ignorance) by inventing it’s own meanings for words.
Then rbby applies another of it’s false strawman by claiming a picture is distinct from a “map”.
Hahahahaha!
The idiocy of that attempt is quite funny!
Then, in spite of all the images already provided on this page, rbby pretends it is somehow crippled, which we do not doubt, and unable to find any of the copious Arctic images available. rbby commands that I provide rbby with said image.
Ergo, another of rbby’s false strawmen; and again extremely funny for sheer idiocy.
While, I can not substantiate rbby’s claim that it provided a picture of Stormy; I am unsurprised that rbby keeps a picture of a prostitute porn star blackmailer extortionist nearby.
I am sure rbby is quite capable of recognizing Stormy; which rbby itself accomplishes by easily recognizing the map a picture provides to unique features, color, textures and patterns.
Meaning rbby is waving around a map to Stormy, but is too ignorant to recognize that fact.
So far in this thread, rbby; you have been egregiously wrong on every claim.
Crawl back under your swamp pad and take your map of Stormy with you.
Provide your own d^mn image of Arctic ice, since you are ungrateful for the ones we’ve shown here.
As to the difference between a map and a picture, it’s obvious that once again Rob’s only desire is to distract and obfuscate.
It’s not like he’s ever given any useful information.
rbby,
see again: “a diagram or other visual representation that shows the relative position of the parts of something”
depending on the use, almost anything can reasonably be used to as a map. If measuring symmetry, the photo could be characterized as a map. but, I’m guessing that you don’t have that photo handy for symmetry studies ….
Not a bit.
Unlike rbby, who refuses to read and understand common dictionaries; I provided a link above for rbby to read the definition for a map.
Horse to water and all that. That horse is desiccating.
Note how rbby fakes amusement, after I was highly amused by rbby’s childish attempts to insult and distract.
rbby’s pathetic adolescent response shames first graders; double down, bluster, bluff, fakery and lie every chance it gets.
Obviously, that swamp pad was too nice for you. Your neighbors, the nematoda, annelida, arthropoda cancelled your lease; for damaging their property values.
Seriously Robby my boy, you need to step up your trolling if you want to tussle with the grown up laddies.
This aint yer (un)Skeptical Science sand box, so quit treating it as one.
Around here, people are expected to do their own homework, know the definition of words, understand shades of meaning, know the difference between someone saying something and putting words in their mouth ans calling them their own, and in general just know what the hell you are talking about and be up to date with recent discussions, general knowledge, etc.
You might also want to drop this notion that posting am image of current or recent conditions is somehow cherry picking, not to mention the notion that the phrase is some scary bogey man that will make serious people run away in a tizzy.
If a satellite composite of current conditions seems like cherry picking to you, you got a lotta schoolin’ to do yet.
Visit http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl for instructions and parameters e.g. appending &q=0 gives latest image
Wow, how they gonna do this years Hair Rock Cruise to the pole? Oops! Sorry, that is not the pole they intend to cruise to. Never mind.
That is an awful lot of ice, snowed here in western PA today, again, still.
Oh, and thanks for that image link, its going into the science and climate folder!
Rob, so how exactly is the image worthless? Anthony didn’t say it proved or refuted anything. Though I imagine it cause you heart burn and to twitch a bit. You probably would have only been happy if there was an image showing an April day with an ice free Arctic Ocean.
Rob,
What would be even more telling would be the same image from the same date in prior years.
But you wouldn’t like that comparison.
Please take the trouble actually to look closely at the image. The different shades of white are quite discernible. If you don’t see that, it must be because you don’t want to do so.
Rob,
Because this has been a snowier than 30-year average year, as should be obvious.
Not just North America suffered record-breaking snow and cold this winter and spring. So did much of Asia and Europe.
Dunno where this year will finish overall, but it’s right up there with the North American record snow years of 1969, 1978, 2010 and 2014. Well do I recall the winters of 1968-69 and 1977-78, when the PDO flipped.
Rob Bradley April 19, 2018 at 6:29 pm
But the data do. And the April snowstorms this year set records in the US and Japan. Dunno about rest of Asia and Europe, so yes, this picture is off the charts unusual.
Rob,
I don’t know where you live, but no American or Canadian would doubt that this winter and spring have been snowier than the 30 year average. By a lot.
It has been in all the papers and on TV and radio, in case you’re lucky enough to live in one of the few states not affected by the record snow and cold. No province has gone unaffected.
You just make yourself look totally out of it for questioning that that image is unusual, without further comment. At least to anyone who has been paying attention for the past 30 to 70 years.
Rob, if the image showed the arctic to be free of ice, would you be so quick to declare that it has no “scientific” value?
Or for that matter, the past one to 29 years.
Nor I might add, would citizens of Japan and Britain and points in between doubt for a second that recent winters have been exceptionally cold and snowy, compared to what they were used to based upon the 30 years after chilly 1978.
Not to mention South America and Africa!
Rob,
My reply with links to the records broken in Asia, Europe and North America this winter is apparently lost in cyberspace, perhaps due to too many links.
But were you the least bit interested in truth, you could easily find all the data showing record-breaking snow and cold this winter clear across the NH, and in the SH during the austral winter, and now, an unusually cold and wet autumn.
Maybe WordPress will allow me one from the middle of North America, out of all those from the three northern continents I posted before:
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2018/04/04/record-snowfall-april-minnesota/
OK, then why don’t you do that? google is your friend, if you know how to type, spell and read, so use it and prove everyone wrong.
rbby,
so, I can imagine a stand alone summer image (with absolutely no ice anywhere).
If such a real world image were produced, but I can’t imagine that you would say it is a worthless image.
(it is easier to imagine an ice free world than it is to imagine a true hypocrite can be reformed)
“It is worthless because it has no scientific value.”
I will take this as proof that Robby is likely not past the wiping-nose-on-sleeve stage of his childhood.
I can assure you Robby, that a bunch of scientists somewhere who built and launched satellites, compile and analyze photos of the Earth, post them on websites for informational purposes, and get paid lots of money to do so, as well as all the people who apportion these tax dollars, and the ones who pay the taxes, will be very glum to hear your pronouncements that the end product of all of this time and money are of no value.
Personally, I just want to thank you for this first hand reminder of the extent and scope of warmista jackassery.
Robby,
You said “Show me data, your opinionated hand waving doesn’t cut it.”
Once again demanding someone else go do your homework for you.
Statements of an obvious and factual nature cannot be rebutted by demanding some proof, and requesting that someone else go fetch some info you can as easily get your own self as ask for from someone else just demonstrates once again that your purpose is not to inform or further any part of the conversation, but to obfuscate and distract…IOW, to troll.
I can promise you, not one person here gives one tiny rat’s tuchus what does and what does not “cut it’ for you.”
If you can refute, then do so.
Your lazy, lackwitted demands, and nonsensical attempts at criticism, are all quite tiresome.
Persisting in them and repeating yourself over and over is not cute or clever, it is churlish, childish and boring.
jeez, there seems to be an increase in bampots visiting wuwt recently. what rob bradley is hoping to achieve by criticizing an image for the date it was taken i have no idea. i too would like to see the summer image,but i am not stupid enough to think that anyone is trying to cherry pick anything by posting the current image that is available.
if rob thinks it has no scientific value perhaps he should contact the people that made it and tell them they are wasting their time ? i can think of a myriad of images used in climate science that have no scientific value, a polar bear sitting astride a small lump of ice springs to mind. there are many more (mikees hockeyschtick anyone), this image isn’t one of them.
Rob specializes in two things.
Obfuscation and distraction. Review past articles, it’s all he’s ever done. He picks some nit-picky little thing and continues to whine about it until everyone gives up on him. Then he declares victory and finally goes home.
MarkW,
I’d say that that sounds like a stealth Nick Stokes, except I think Nick is actually pretty smart (just beholden to the CAGW meme).
It looks like Bradley’s understanding of science is reflected in the picture he posted at 7:22 pm.
Well, that picture has made Rob Bradley go blind already.
Obviously, it also highlights his failure to stay abreast of the topic at hand, imo. As he is continually buffeted by the twin peaks of fantasy and delusion.
Maybe he thinks she would look better covered in ice. sad.
Their image from last summer near the minimum extent:
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/MODISCOM-T/20170911000000_MODISCOM-T_0009631928.jpg
Greenland sure is well named. sarc
Unknown: Thanks for filling Mr. Bradley’s request. He’ll be along soon to tell you this is worthless because it looks nothing like Stormy Daniels last April.
Download TinyTake free photo software that will allow you to take a picture of a picture and save it as a png. Real simple/ It will look just like what you posted https://tinytake.com
On Linux use
wget -r http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl
In the file :-
Latest ice conditions –
https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/ice-forecasts-observations/latest-conditions.html
Image Archive –
https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/ice-forecasts-observations/latest-conditions/archive-overview/interesting-image.html
PS: have a look at the robots.txt file that is also downloaded.
the products are in http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/MODISCOM-T/20170911000000_MODISCOM-T_0009631928.jpg
RE: robots.txt
curl http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/robots.txt
User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin/
Disallow: /IceGraph/
Disallow: /IceGraph103/
Disallow: /CISCalendar/
Disallow: /prods/
Disallow: /web_apps/wwwroot/prods/
I flew from Baltimore to Denver (over Chicago) and then up to Calgary today. Almost the entire route was covered in snow. It is almost unbelievable that this late in the year there is still that much snow.
Awww.
I think the pic is cute, and against the message. Note the small dark spot north of Spitzbergen. That’s climate change.
Environment Canada keeps a daily plot, updated almost daily. Snow Cover Extent. The one for NH was last updated on April 14. For early and late in the season, it has been on the high-side of the standard deviation band.
The NA chart has not been updated since the 10th, when the plot was unusually above the high-side of the band. Early winter polts were also on the high-side. As was the plot during August and into September, the seasonal low. That means above average alpine and far-north coverage.
Sorry, I don’t know how to put in the link and can’t remember how I found the site. I have it bookmarked.
Bob Hoye
There’s Ice at the North Pole!…. I thought it was all supposed to be gone by now. Well there you go. Wonders never cease.
Just write an aws lambda function that scrapes it once a day, shrinks it and sticks it in an S3 bucket. It should be 30 lines of python.
Embed this
If you just want to include the current image, putting it inside an iframe is the simplest option.
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/getprod.pl?prodid=MODISCOM-T&wrap=0&lang=en
A more sophisticated approach would be to use PHP’s CURL function to get the data, and then GDImage to resize it.