Clothing store advocating hate has billboard of Trump depicted as Hitler removed in a day

NOTE: This isn’t the normal fare for WUWT, but it has happened in my town, and this website is still connected to the local newspaper, the Chico Enterprise Record, where it got it’s start, so I’m covering it.

UPDATE: It gets worse. The website for the store sells T-shirts depicting cop killings see below

In less than 24 hours, a billboard comparing President Donald Trump to Hitler was installed and removed at East Third and Mangrove avenues.
The advertisement, paid for by local clothing store Rouse & Revolt, depicted Trump with a 45 fashioned on his sleeve in a swastika-style armband, his face stony amid nuclear explosions occurring behind him on the billboard’s red background.

Stott Outdoor Advertising took the display down after people erupted on social media.
The advertisement was called disgusting, despicable and “plain stupid,” by some, while others expressed support for Rouse & Revolt.

Images via Facebook page of Action News Now, Chico, CA

“Her billboard may have already been taken down, but any store owner that will speak truth to power in such a grand way has my support. I only wished I lived closer to Chico so I can show support through my wallet as well,” wrote Facebook user Tamara Hinckley.

While some called for a boycott of the business, others spoke about free speech and letting people express themselves.
Rouse & Revolt store owner Nicholle Haber Lewis wrote the following message with the original image on Facebook when the billboard first went up:

“We support equality, we support equal rights, we support a woman’s right to her own body, we support DACA, we support universal health care, we support gay people in any Place they live. We welcome all races, all religions, all countries of origin, all genders and we not only STAND with you, we kneel with you as well. Rouse & Revolt”

More here at Chicoer

Stott Outdoor Advertising has confirmed they took this billboard down. Owner Jim Moravec has sent us the following statement:

“The core business of Stott Outdoor Advertising is providing a unique forum for the expression of ideas, both commercial and non-commercial. In this instance, the advertising message chosen by Rouse and Revolt clearly went beyond a commercial message and was primarily political in nature. Stott Outdoor has accepted and displayed political advertising for many years representing a wide variety of viewpoints, so long as the speaker is clearly identified and the message is legal, moral, and ethical. If those criteria are met, then Stott Outdoor is not going to be the party to limit the advertiser’s message. 

In this instance, it has become obvious in hindsight that the identity of the speaker is insufficiently clear. While we here at Stott Outdoor have knowledge of Rouse and Revolt, a clothing company which has advertised with us in the past, many others do not have such knowledge of the business, and have interpreted the name of the business as a command or instruction. This confusion over the identity of the speaker, combined with the depiction of violence, prompted us to remove the advertising message.”

UPDATE:

It gets worse, apparently hate is a theme with this store, as you can buy a t-shirt that depicts cop-killing as this screencap of their website shows:

UPDATE2: Shortly after this posting their website went offline. Claims were being made in social media that their website was “hacked” and that this image was not theirs. I view that as “damage control”.

Unfortunately for them, the Internet never forgets, it’s on the Wayback Machine Internet Archive from July 28th, 2017, as well as their own Facebook page. See links and screencaps below.

FACEBOOK:

Screencap: rouse-revolt-facebook-page

The Wayback Machine Internet Archive from July 28th:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170728000215/https://rouseandrevolt.net/

wayback-rouse-revolt-jul28th

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205 thoughts on “Clothing store advocating hate has billboard of Trump depicted as Hitler removed in a day

      • From a philosophical point of view, it is sad. From a tactical political point of view it is outstanding news. And it’s always amusing when a party that desperately needs to grow itself, instead purges itself of the insufficiently faithful.

      • STRATEGIC MARKETING TIP FOR R & R: Highly recommend you send your next billboard concept to the NFL and ask them if they think it will fly.:

    • If only they were kids. They are adults lying and trying to get people killed. The store probably cheered the Vegas shooter trying to take out cops

      • dunno…my take is in the day of twitter, facebook, and pussy hats…..the latest thing is to out outrageous each other

  1. It really is sad the way these morons actually believe that they are doing something courageous when they go out of their way to insult anyone who disagrees with them.

    Sadder still, when they actually do get power, they run wild doing all of the things they have spent years accusing conservatives of wanting to do.

  2. So fabricated racism is attacked with hate. The growing ‘white man is the bogeyman’ narrative will backfire big time. It’s being supported by the same MSM that pushes CAGW and probably backed by the same cabal.

    • I’m not so sure. There are a lot of dumb, easily-manipulated people out there. I hope you’re right, but I wouldn’t put money on it.

      • A lot of them are paying a high price, as cops stay away from high crime areas, do nothing to pre-empt a crime for fear of being racist and are likely to let the bad guy run rather than risk the MSM crucifying them. So people die and are hurt.

      • My sister is one of those “easily-manipulated people”. She has the biggest heart in the world and just thinks conservatives are heartless–she has no idea what conservatives really are–she just buys the bullsh*t that we are heartless, mean, gun-toting bully’s who want to give incentives to corporations, make the rich richer, and take away healthcare for the poor. you can’t talk to her because she cries. In her mind, I am the exception in her world and she doesn’t get it, why I am “one of those.” Since I know what a wonderful person she is, I sort of understand them–sadly ill-informed, overly generous with everyone else’s money, and.. well, shall I say it? Her husband is a university professor! THAT explains it all.

      • Shelly

        you might like to remind your sister that the worst atrocities of the 20th Century were committed by left, and far left governments including Stalin, Mao, Hi*ler, Pol Pot, Mussolini, Castro, the Kim dynasty of N. Korea……….and many more.

        Fascism was invented by Mussolini, kicked out of his socialist party. Hi*ler was leader of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.

        And of course, the Klan emerged from the Democratic movement.

        The desire of capitalism is to conduct peaceful trade.

      • HotScot

        I have a sister the same way. Won’t talk to me about politics or climate change. Just says, “I don’t want to talk about it” and gets up and walks away.

      • Shelly, remind your sister that true compassion means giving someone from your own wealth.
        Compassion is not stealing from someone else in order to give.

      • I don’t like to think of these people as dumb. In fact, I don’t think they are dumb, but I do think they are the receivers of intentionally wrongful education. They were manipulated when they were most easily manipulated, as children.

      • RAH..Eventually the pendulum will swing back the other way. It always does…
        Good call but this time the lunatic fringe are intent on gaining control of the pendulum and will do everything possible to control it.
        And control us.
        This weird movement of companies and business, operating within the private enterprise system, turning themselves inside out to virtue signal their ‘establishment lefty luvvie’ credentials is mystifying.
        It is happening more and more in Australia as well and I wonder if anyone can explain this?

      • I’m reminded of an NFL player who recently was quite upset about fans boycotting games and advertisers pulling ads because of the recent controversy over not standing for the national anthem.
        His reply, “I’m just peacefully exercising my first amendment rights”.

        Wake up dude, so are the fans and advertisers.
        Just because you have a right to do so doesn’t mean you won’t suffer consequences for doing it.

      • RAH “eventually the pendulum will swing back the other way. …..”
        Yes and a wrecking ball is a pendulum too!

      • The pendulum reached its peak with the previous administration and has begun to swing in the opposite direction. The hyperactive reactions by people like the Rouse & Revolt owners and the other loud, noisy, destructive (and paid to be that way) people is a desperate attempt to seize control of the swing and stop it.
        Unfortunately, they don’t understand this simple thing: for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

      • Marxism is metaphysical. it is pointless to try and reason with them. their beliefs are faith based. it is their religion. they think it’s politics, however their politics are religious. i believe it was Kautsky who pointed this out. he was than deemed a renegade by Lenin and cast out of the communist party.

  3. Yep, the left says Trump is Hitler and a despot that is going to usurp the Constitution but we still want to take what the founders knew was the primary deterrent to that away from everyone! So which is worse leftists? Trump or the firearms that you could use to resist the coup you claim he wants to stage?

    • The Left thinks all conservatives are Hitler. Trump just happens to be at the top of the list, so he is where they focus most of their attention.

      It’s easier for the Leftists to think in stereotypes. They do better with generalizations than with details or facts.

      Not all, I might add, but I personally have never seen one who didn’t think that way. Even my smart liberal friends look at the world that way. Give them a piece of leftwing propaganda and they are immediately True Belivers in the new meme: such as Trump and the Russians colluded.

      Btw, isn’t it about time they wrapped up this collusion investigation and tell the public there is no there, there?

      They have nothing on Trump, yet they keep digging. Let’s see if they dig this hard for evidence of collusion between Hillary Clinton and the Russians. That might be hard to do though, since all the prosecutors are Democrats who have donated to Hillary’s campaigns, and at least one of them has even worked at the Clinton Foundation, for the Clintons. They probably are not too eager to investigate the Clintons.

      • They wouldn’t have to dig very hard to find out that the Russians colluded with JFK. But I’m not hearing a lot of whining from the left about that…

      • Despite their constant claims towards individuality, the left insists on treating people as members of groups, rather than as individuals.
        Thus we get affirmative action for all blacks, rather than programs targeted to help poor people.
        As a result the son of a wealthy black doctor is given help, while the son of a white janitor is ignored.

      • “Ah, but the American Flag is a symbol of hatred and oppression”

        I have been thinking about this and I think that the so-called oppression of African Americans by the police and the larger white society is a false narrative all the way. The statistics say just the opposite of what they complain about.

        The only people oppressing the Black Community are their Democrat Party masters, and young, black criminals.

        I wondered why all these black athletes who are taking a knee in protest (of what?) were not trying to get their complaints out to the American public in hopes of improving the Black Community’s situation. But all they seem to want to do is trash the United States by trashing its flag and national anthem.

        These black athletes could go to any television broadcast company in the country and ask for free air time to air their grievances, and noone would turn them down. The media outlets, including Fox News would be eager to get them on the air. Hannity has already offered them airtime.

        Or, these guys have enough money between them to finance a public outreach program to air their grievances. But they haven’t made a move in that direction.

        Which leads me to believe that these guys really know the score, and that the statistics *do not* support the “oppressed black man”narrative, and if they go public, the lies will be exposed. So they kneel on the sidelines and let it go at that.

        That’s not to say there isn’t racism in the world and in the U.S., but there is a big difference between being discriminated against by some individual moron, and being deliberately oppressed by the police and the Government.

        The black athletes can speak up any time they want, but they remain silent. Why is that?

      • The Democrats are so exercised about the senseless murders in Las Vegas.

        Why don’t the Democrats get this exercised about all the black people who are being murdered in Chicago and Detroit and Baltimore (to name only a few) which sadly, greatly outnumbers the number of dead in Las Vegas.

        The reason the Democrats get so exercised over Las Vegas is because they see it as an opportunity to try to do away with the Second Amendment (the right to bear arms). One of their pet projects.

        The reason the Democrats do not get exercised over the multitude of deaths of innocent people, and some not so innocent, in the inner cities is because they don’t want to call atttention to the fact that this killing is their fault.

        They see no political advantage to bringing that up in public, so no matter how many more blacks are killed, you won’t see the Democrats holding press conferences and denouncing all the violence like they have done after Las Vegas.

        That’s what the black athletes ought to be protesting about: Democrat rule has almost destroyed the Black Community.

      • TA the problem is Special Counsel Mueller has unlimited scope and time. There was no probable cause for any investigation of Trump or his campaign so the whole thing is just a politically motivated fishing expedition. It is another one of those deals that once instituted has to result in somebody going to jail for something. Even if that reason is a “process crime” having nothing to do with the original intent of for the investigation. ie: Scooter Libby.

      • GREY LENSMAN October 6, 2017 at 3:43 am
        “Kneeling, have you heard of that English word before”

        Your point?

      • According to the left, the west must be perfect. Even westerners who lived hundreds of years ago must be judged by today’s standards.
        On the other hand, non-westerners aren’t to be judged at all. No matter what they do, it can be excused as a reaction to something the west was doing.

      • “TA the problem is Special Counsel Mueller has unlimited scope and time.”

        I agree, RAH. The question is does this apply to both Democrats and Republicans, or only Republicans.

        Trump *can* fire Mueller, if he so desires, and would have a pretty good argument for doing so because the Special Counsel is established in order to investigate a specific crime or crimes, but no specific crime has ever been alledged against Trump. Collusion, even if it happened (no proof it did), is not a crime.

        So Mueller is on a fishing expedition but we don’t know what he is fishing for. Is he a tool of the Swamp who is trying to get rid of Trump using all means possible, or is he an honest person who is looking at all the wrongdoing?

        They say Mueller is a honorable man, and his history seems to bear that out, but the same people said Comey was an honest man and we know now that is not true.

        Time will tell. One thing about Trump is he hasn’t been in Office long enough to commit too much wrongdoing, and he seems to be a smart enough guy to keep himself out of legal jeopardy in his private business dealings, so I don’t think they have anything on Trump, and would be very surprised if they managed to get him on anything.

        They might nail Flynn or Manafort, but their problems have nothing to do with the Trump administration, it’s all on them.

        Trump’s supporters are not going to accept a Mueller-arranged Kangaroo Court aimed at Trump. If he charges Trump, Mueller better have all his legal ducks in a row.

      • On African American: “I’m not African, I am American”. – Morgan Freeman

        This separation of identity is what the left thrives on. Men women, gay straight, black white ect.

      • And there is a problem that the term “African American” is not what is meant. I knew several literal African Americans in California==> Tunisians, an Algerian, Egyptians, and a Boer, not what is meant usually by African American.

      • TA

        Hell no it doesn’t apply equally to democrats as it does to republicans. If it did Hillary and/or some in her campaign staff would be a real trouble! If Mueller is really “honorable” then he will be investigating the democrats also. But I don’t believe that is going to happen at all based upon who he has hired. This appears to be a Democrat fishing expedition through and through. Mueller is claiming he has spoken to the author of the golden shower “dossier” but the Senate Intelligence committee chairman just announced this week that he has failed to get Steele to respond to their requests for him to come before the committee. Now what does that tell you?

      • I wish I could remember the name of the reporterette, who while filming a story in Africa, referred to the locals as African-Americans.


    • (video still of Raising the Flag at Iwo Jima)


      (Raising the Flag at Ground Zero, September 11, 2001)

      That flag means something.

      • And this man understood why:

        John Wayne, “America — Why I Love Her”

        (youtube)

        Tears in my eyes….. so grateful….. so proud (as should all of you WUWTers be of your own native lands)….. so full of love.

        God, bless America.

      • Janice
        In their ignorant fervor facts never get in their way. Take their National Anthem protests. So ignorant that they don’t even know that Francis Scott Key was one of the most competent lawyers in the US at the time and took cases at his own expense to represent slaves to fight for their freedom. That black soldiers fought in the defense of Ft. McHenry and served as sailors in the US Naval forces trying to defend the Chesapeake and Baltimore. In particular a Naval battery on shore in support of the fort had black sailors among those manning the guns. The support of that battery was specifically mentioned by George Armistead in his official report on the battle.
        http://amhistory.si.edu/starspangledbanner/pdf/TRANSCRIPT%20Official%20Account%20of%20the%20Bombardment%20of%20Fort%20McHenry.pdf

        George Armistead, who commanded the garrison at Ft. McHenry was one of five brothers, all Virginians, that fought in the war of 1812. His nephew, Lo Armistead, died leading a brigade of Pickett’s division at Gettysburg. Such is the tangled web of the history of our nation and the those that have fought to defend it. It is all so much more complex than they would have us believe.

  4. When “The Great Leap Forward” fell flat on its face, Mao resorted to “The Cultural Revolution”, which was a way to eliminate opposition which only he could pull off. I think we are seeing the Far Left attempt a similar ploy after a similar failure in America, but the “revolution” is not run by evil genius, and will not succeed. Instead it only will disgust the majority.

    • For quite some time, the people of the world have grown political ears, when a politician speaks it is normally what we want to hear ( otherwise why listen ?) it may be interpreted 50 different ways by 50 people but that is modern polspeek ! ( Good bullgreen )
      For the first time in decades we have a non-politician who’s name is spoken somewhere in the world every second 25 hours a day !
      The problem is that the ears cannot understand normspeek! (50 people interpret it 50 different ways )

  5. The Vegas killer roused and revolted. The billboard (and store) is nothing more than pathetic preening of progressive poseurs.

    • The Vegas killer had Philippine links.
      ISIS claimed him. Yet they didn’t reveal anything.
      Seems when it comes to ISIS drug dealings, the U.S. can’t nail it.
      The Philippines is currently involved in a what some have called, “gangster style” crackdown on drugs, including government officials. ISIS wasn’t getting their drug money and took over the city of Marawi.

      • One more thingy..the Vegas killer had enough money to buy his weapons on the black market.
        So, Gun control is not a valid case.
        Just ask Libya about the shipment of weapons and grenades shipped to their port under a Cambodian flag, yet seen by the U.S. intel as having left N. Korea.

      • Correction; on last post Exchange Egypt for Libya. The weapons were bought by Egypt and sent from North Korea.

  6. just an idea from the other side of the ocean:

    big drama: succeeded
    play on perception: succeeded
    showing how polarized the worl is: succeeded
    making people talk about it: succeeded
    showing how poor people react on freedom of speech: succeeded
    publicity stunt: succeeded

    reach of 300 miljon people on the net: succeeded

    perfect viral going stunt! well done! :-)

    now i can grab my chips and read a whole debate in the comments as creating that debate is why they did it.
    but having an internet hype, going around the world, reaching millions of people…
    ….. with just one billboard….
    ….smart move.

    • Exposed one’s ignorance and breathtaking coarseness: succeeded.

      Net result:

      YOU LOSE (Lewis, et al. and all the “kneelers”). hahahaha!

      Game over.

    • note that you need to interpret this knowing i’m apolitical but respect anyone’s political or religious viewpoint..

    • “reaching millions of people … with just one billboard … smart move”

      A lot of exposure is not necessarily smart. If the left keeps on with the same tactics, 2020 could be like 1972 when McGovern lost every state but one.

      • Indeed. Raised a tall scaffold and ended up hanging themselves (the “kneelers,” et al.) on it.

        Loudmouth, obnoxious, liberals: the gift that keeps on giving.

      • I agree, Sheri. It is common practice for U.S. employers to demand that their employees leave their politics at home. Those players are on the job. Each team should not be required to make the choice, for it will only benefit the slimer teams — i.e., the NFL needs to create a level playing field for this issue so that, “Fine. You’re fired.” doesn’t send punks like Mr. K. into the unprincipled arms of a who-cares-about-honoring-America/veterans/police team).

      • I watched the beginning of the Thursday night pro football game, to see if I was going to watch it or not, depending on whether I saw anyone not standing while the National Anthem was played. If you aren’t standing, I’m not watching.

        Well, tonight the NFL apparently decided to schedule a commercial while the National Anthem was played, so I didn’t know if someone took a knee or not.

        The football players better find themselves another way of protesting, otherwise a lot of people are going to lose a lot of money. And all for a false narrative, at that.

      • The real money that supports the NFL comes from their TV contracts. That is where you hurt them. I will not watch a minute of an NFL game for the duration. I also support eliminating our tax dollars at all levels that go to support the league and the facilities they play in.

      • There is an alternative folks.

        Watch Rugby, the game American Football (as we call it) emerged from.

        No racism, no political statements, and no armour.

        Along with cricket, it’s the Chess of field-sports, just an awful lot faster and more brutal.

        And there are Rugby clubs all over the USA, indeed, you guys field a credible team in the World Cup.

    • I deeply regret that I was never a fan of professional football because any boycott I might possibly engage in would indistinguishable from my attitude toward the “sport” for the past 60 years.

  7. While Ms. Lewis does not deserve the dignity of a response (nor the free publicity), good for you, Anthony, to expose such filth — hopefully, it will serve as a wake-up call for all of us rational, healthy-hearted, Americans to remain vigilant.

    (Annotated for clarity)
    We support equality — who doesn’t?
    we support equal rights — who doesn’t?
    we support a woman’s right to her own body killing the unborn.
    we support DACA — entering/remaining in the U.S. illegally, i.e., breaking the law.
    we support universal health care handing over the healthcare industry to the government.
    we support gay people in any [p]lace they live. — who doesn’t (given, the “support” asked for doesn’t violate one’s religious creed, including the non-M u s l I m religiously devout)?
    We welcome all races, all religions, all countries of origin, all genders — who doesn’t [so long as they come in legally AND from countries where terror1sts are properly vetted before leaving? — Is Saudi Arabia on that list? Turkey? Egypt? Morocco? Indonesia?…. lots of M u s l I m s in those countries, Ms. Lewis]

    and we not only STAND with you, we kneel with you as well. …. — In other words: you hate the country [yes, most of us LOVE this country and are offended by the “kneeling” disrespect] where you can run your own business and you hate the police officers who protect your little business from theft and yourself from harm

    and all those who died for that flag you refuse to honor …..

    In short: you are ignorant. As most hate-filled people are.

  8. No one should even enter Rouse & Revolt Store where they display clothes that depicts COP KILLERs, Only a real SICK person that owns this store should be run out of town. We do not need this HATE in Chico.

  9. Unfortunately it appears that Chico Electric, on the adjoining board, was an innocent bystander taken down in the cross fire.

    • That was a great observation, D.J.. I was inspired by your keen and kindhearted eyes to go find an image of what appeared to be a hard-working, innocent, local business entrepreneur and post it toward the top of this thread to make up for it but, NO WAY! I discovered that C.E. is a solar sc@mmer! In this case, good riddance and GOOD collateral damage.

    • I noticed that too. Perhaps Chico Electric was so sickened by having their advert next to that R&R garbage, that they demanded it be taken down too. If I were them, I would have pulled all my advertising from that company. Forever.

  10. It’s the People Republic of California. What do you expect?

    Mr. Watts, You should move away from the PRCa. You’ll be persecuted soon, if things keep going the way they are.

  11. If this billboard isn’t hate speech – and thus not subject to first amendment protection – I don’t know what is.

    • My understanding (and I am not a constitutional lawyer) is that hate speech is protected under the first amendment. As is anything except incitement to immediate violence.

    • The First Amendment does *not* have a “hate speech” exemption.
      There are very good reasons for that.
      If you do not defend all speech, you are not for free speech at all.

      • “If you do not defend all speech, you are not for free speech at all.”

        In order to prevent hate speech, someone has to define what hate speech is, and that someone’s definition may not coincide with other people’s definition.

        So how do we decide who makes this choice? Easy, we don’t let anyone make this choice. Instead, we counter what we consider to be hate speech with more speech, not with censorship.

  12. Was it in very bad taste ?
    Yes
    Did it attract attention to the store?
    Yes
    Did it increase sales in its target market?
    I don’t know but suspect that it did

  13. Our Constitutional Republic may very well be in the greatest danger of our short history. If Americans don’t stand up and vote the establishment out in 2018 we may lose our Constitutional Republic to the Liberal Marxist Democrats. What scares me most is that I don’t see Americans getting the message. Antifacists, Planned Parenthood, Resist, Black Lives Matter, Progressives Today, and another 200 to 300 groups across America are gearing up for more violent demonstrations! http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/10/04/loyola-marymount-professor-says-violent-protests-are-productive/
    Please Wake Up America!!

    • getting violent do not get you support, it weaken your case. Antifa are just another bunch of fascists and people scorn them, like BLM (who actually don’t care about black lives, or any life at all).

      • The “blm” just said “liberalism is codespeak for white supremacy “. They are at war with themselves. This is either going to be tragic or hilarious. Or both.

      • Any mass violence by these radical Leftists will be met with an enormous backlash. The radical Leftists haven’t quite pushed things far enough, but if they do, the American people and the Trump administration are not going to stand for it. It will be put down hard.

      • “And vote out the liberal republicans.”

        Yes, I think this should be a major focus of Trump and Trump’s supporters. Let’s get rid of the RINOs and replace them with solid conservatives who will support Trump’s agenda. 2018 is just around the corner.

        Liberal Senate Republicans are the fly in the ointment. With just a few more Republican votes, Trump would be pushing his whole agenda through. Instead, the House has sent 285 bills to the Senate where they languish, with no vote, because the Republican Senate is disfunctional.

    • There is no Godwin’s “law”. The Godwin’s law is a rhetoric ploy used by the left to hide the fact that H.tler is a socialist and is the founder of the Nazional Socialist party.

    • It really does amaze me how bent out of shape some people get whenever the discussion turns to a subject they don’t want to talk about.
      In the last week we’ve had 20 or 30 hard core science articles, and one where the author wanted to talk about something that upset him greatly.
      And from that you conclude that we no longer talk about science.

      Sheesh, grow up.

  14. The level of hatred leveled towards Trump, conservatives and skeptics is nothing less than frightening. It’s always been bad, but since Donald Trump was elected President… It has gone up in orders of magnitude.

    The Left feel that they are entitled to hate openly. There is no civility or attempt at dialog from them. It’s just an outpouring of hatred by one side of politics.

    They really need to wake up to themselves.

    • Those loudmouth, ignorant, coarse-talking, haters, are doing our country a big favor.

      For, thanks to them, many die-hard, lifelong, Democrats are quietly voting against their party. They will not be as vocal about it as Ronald Reagan, but, those “Democrats” can now see (and hear) that their party has left them.

      • Yup.

        If Republicans weren’t stumbling all over themselves trying to be globalists while trying to be American, they could waltz in and win everything.

      • I read an article recently that Antifa (a misnomer if ever there was one) is calling for open rebellion with the intention of over throwing the government of the US.
        They have even picked a date Nov. 4, for the revolution to start.

        Part of me hopes that they are dumb enough to actually try this. It will discredit the left for another generation.

    • “It’s always been bad, but since Donald Trump was elected President… It has gone up in orders of magnitude.”

      If Trump were a quiet little thing like G.W. Bush, and did not fight back against the lies of the MSM, then Trump would only get the standard trashing by the MSM, but Trump is calling the MSM out as liars and Fake News, and he is hurting their credibilty (or rather, the MSM are hurting their own credibility, and Trump is just pointing it out), so the MSM has a viseral hate for Trump and see him as a direct threat to them, which he is, so they attack him mercilessly, using any and all means they can muster and lies and distortions are part of their arsenal (th most part).

      I saw a poll the other day that showed that the MSM’s coverage of Trump has been 95 percent negative. They hate him. They hate all Republicans, but most Republicans go away meekly when the MSM criticizes them. They definitely don’t want to confront the MSM. Trump is a different kind of animal. No “meekly” for him.

  15. “NOTE: This isn’t the normal fare for WUWT, but it has happened in my town, and this website is still connected to the local newspaper, the Chico Enterprise Record, where it got it’s start, so I’m covering it.”

    I think it’s wonderful that Chico pulled together and got this removed. Nice work AW! Local power. I just love it.

    We once kicked out some drug dealers in our small town. We just all showed up and spoke at the city hall.

  16. So the believe in

    “We support equality, we support equal rights, we support a woman’s right to her own body, we support DACA, we support universal health care, we support gay people in any Place they live. We welcome all races, all religions, all countries of origin, all genders and we not only STAND with you, we kneel with you as well. Rouse & Revolt”

    Apparently their equality does not include Republicans, or those who were voted into high office by a legal vote of the majority. Apparently ‘all races …’ etc does not extend to older white males with peculiar hair styles currently holding high office.

    I have a feeling if they find a white male republican voter they may wish to stand on him not with him.

  17. I like to think that some clever trickster at Stott Outdoor Advertising pulled a fast one on Rouse and Revolt(ing) Clothiers: taking R&R’s design and changing the color of Trump’s jacket to … green?

    In any case it might be useful to point out this little detail. And for some additional amusement let us consider the 17 year old who buys that T-shirt thinking it’s really cool until he/she gets pulled over on one of Jerry Brown’s pot holed freeways doing 80mph in mom’s Lexus.

    Or, for even greater amusement let us imagine R&R calling the police to respond to a shoplifting: “Um, officer, uh, um … a bunch of, um, those T-shirts were stolen.

    • I was thinking along similar lines that some real Americans should walk into the store with T-shirts that make it clear that they are concealed carriers and they should just trash the place and piss on the shirts and see if the store owners want to call the police. Apparently that’s what antifa in California considers free speech

  18. Nicolle picked her poison and now she doesn’t understand why people do not like what she posted on the billboard. This was not about her store, she is just an activist. Listen to her on her Facebook She plays, Oh my, why are people so unhappy. Don’t play the victim Nicolle, Your clothes depicts that you want Cops Dead as your clothes depicts, this is you stating your hate against our Police. Play dumb (as you are) and act you do not understand why people in Chico want you gone, you are pathetic and your own Karma will put you out of businesses.

    https://www.facebook.com/nicholle.lewis.5
    Facebook: Nicholle Harber Lewis

    • From her page:

      FAVORITE QUOTES
      Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one
      -Friedrich Nietzsche

      The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
      -Gandhi

      An eye for an eye makes the world blind.
      -Gandhi

      Well, she’s made Nietzsche’s quote live.

      • This article about the Hate store is hilarious!

        http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/10/06/california-billboard-portrays-trump-nazi-complete-45-swastika/

        The owner is not fairing too well after she put her ignorance up on the advertising sign.

        “According to Newsweek,

        Rouse & Revolt owner Nicholle [Haber] told Newsweek that she didn’t sleep much last night. Her phone wouldn’t stop going off with the persistent buzzing of death threats for her sign, which stylizes the number 45 into a swastika and features Trump posed in a Hitler-esque stance.

        “I’m living in a small, podunk red town and I’m already getting death threats,” said [Haber], whose store is in right-leaning Chico, population 90,000. “My business has completely floundered. Overnight I had more one-star reviews than all the reviews I’ve received in a year.”

        end excerpt

  19. Welcome home Anthony.

    The global immigration problem has reached epic proportions.

    The rise of the Right-Wing in Europe was already occurring before President Trump took office.

    The Liberal Left thinks that western countries can accommodate all of them (migrants). And that their should be open borders.
    Europe has been taking in immigrants from the middle east and n. africa for years and years and recently have been pummeled by several million that walked up the Balkan route, including terrorlsts, posing as refugees.
    Terror groups promote mass migration through terror. These groups use drug trafficking (multi billion yr. industry) to subvert those nations they refer to as crusaders.
    Terror groups also traffic in human smuggling and slavery. Terror groups work with Mexican and S. American cartels to pull it off coming through our open southern border.

    Based on our Southwest demographics over the last 50 years, who are your voters now. What do they promote? In the long run, they are creating ‘here’ the same thing, that they had left behind in the first place.

    And if that is not enough the last tunnel found recently had 20 some chinese nationals found in it…

    The Right Wing AFD in Germany when called neo nazi now call those Left Wing liberals Stasi (communist police).

    I could go on and on.

  20. This is what happens when sane people ignore loonies, thinking they are just silly. The loonies are now in control of the media.

  21. “The advertisement, paid for by local clothing store Rouse & Revolt,,,,,” It is revolting message for sure but I do believe in our Constitution. I vote with my dollar not to buy anything from that store which is also a freedom of speech.

  22. Color diversity, political congruence, a-bortion rites, social justice adventures, and the “Jews” didn’t build it.

    Neo-National Socialists, indeed. A left-wing group in their time and progressive.

  23. Perhaps a form of MAD would curb their appetites. Specifically, brand destruction, be it progressive, liberal, conservative, libertarian, or whatever. Principles matter.

  24. I think he looks and acts a little more like Mussolini, but the alarmists might not know who that was, or be able to make the mental leap. Everybody gets Hitler.

  25. California becomes ‘sanctuary state’ in rebuke of Trump immigration policy
    In Depth Los Angeles Times 8h ago

    Well I guess Jerry Brown is off the hook…..Not hard to cross the border now….

    • I guess we are going to have to wall off California, too.

      California should be made to pay for this wall, just like Mexico is going to pay for its section.

  26. If liberals freaked when bloggers compared the Obamas to monkeys, why would they think it’s OK to compare Trump to Hitler? “Because he is” is not a valid answer. I’m tired of being labeled a white nationalist by people who show no compunction over trivializing Jews or the Holocaust, especially if the only difference between myself and them is an opinion (which, like assholes, everyone has.)

  27. I’ve been a regular reader here for more than 10 years now, for the science and the insightful comments. But it’s quite shocking to see so many defend the orange anus that is the dimwit Trump. There are more than two sides to politics, just because you don’t like “those people” doesn’t mean you need to support “that group”. Or one specific sociopath.

    /European

    • Troed Sångberg October 6, 2017 at 12:37 am

      Speaking of sociopaths you would have preferred Hillary Clinton (ask the people of Haiti)? An interesting thought with the case against Ahmed Abu Khattala in progress. We have Jeremy Corbyn (friend of Hamas, IRA etc.) as our alternative here, that’s pretty frightening too. Back to the climate theme I’d vote for his brother Piers any day in preference (he got nearly all the brains for a start).

      • My comment on the US election at the time was that Trump would be bad for the US, Hillary would be bad for the world. As I said, there are more than two sides to politics. The biggest problem in the US seems, from an outside, to be that you’re either with “that team” or “the other team” – and readily adopt whatever viewpoints that goes with that group.

        There are seven parties in the Swedish parliament and I don’t identify with any of them. And that’s ok. Come election time I go with the one closest to my views at the time – or another party that’s not represented yet.

      • Good luck in Sweden, almost my entire knowledge of that beautiful country comes from Kurt Wallander and driving Saabs (and Sabb boat engines and Primus stoves!).

    • I love it when left wingers declare that proof of stupidity is disagreeing with them.
      Your posts paints you as more of a sociopath than you believe Trump to be.

      • I’m not sure you know what “sociopath” means in psychology.

        (Btw, I’m not “left wing”. I do believe you proved my point about “either _this_ team or _that_ team” with that comment though)

      • Sociopath means the same thing as when you used it earlier.
        As to you not being left wing, I have no doubt that you actually believe that.
        Then again in Europe, socialists are considered conservative.

    • Trump and Scott Pruitt are trying to save the planet – from the CAGW hoax. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” That’s all you need to know, Troed.

  28. This has no connection with climate or climate science and I am dismayed to see it on this site.

    [Ed, See here’s the thing, and there’s really no way of getting around this – I don’t care what you think. When you get your own site, you can run it as you see fit. In the meantime, tough noogies. – Anthony Watts]

    • Griff most of what you post has no connection to real science and we are dismayed to see it on this site. But the Host allows it as he sees fit.

    • Griff, how did you miss the very first paragraph of the post?

      “NOTE: This isn’t the normal fare for WUWT, but it has happened in my town, and this website is still connected to the local newspaper, the Chico Enterprise Record, where it got it’s start, so I’m covering it.”

      You look foolish once again.

    • Have you apologised to Dr. Crockford for your malicious attempt to damage her credibility yet, Skanky?
      Don’t you think you ought to?

      (Stop harassing him,get back to debating the topic and comments) MOD

  29. Difficult to see how you can call someone who has out-witted the entire political establishment a dimwit – the rest is just unnecessary.

    Can I remind everyone to join my campaign to replace the term “stereotype” with the correct term “monotype”.

    • Agree, the wailing of the ‘Remoaners/Remainiacs/Remnants’) is a similar phenomenon I think. We are accused of being senile with no stake in the future as if our grandchildren (on whom massive debt is being piled) were not enough. Another interesting phenomenon is the number of European leaders who are childless.

  30. Probably some sort of corollary to Godwin’s law to quote Orwell but this is pretty relevant so here goes (‘Tribune’ 1944).

    ‘It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee [a Tory group], the 1941 Committee [a left-liberal group], Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.’

  31. Self-righteous haters of the worst kind. The political environment has brought forth the Emerged Left, similar to the period in the first third of the 20th century where hatred and violence replaced vigorous political debates. It’s what carried group after group of left wing fascist to power that swept through Europe and is now attempting the same here.

  32. When events like the Las Vegas shooting happen the first reaction by the Left is to go after guns as if guns were the problem. The real problem is the society we now live in, created mostly over the last 8 years by the Left themselves. The glorification of violence is the foundation of why things like this happen. When we are constantly bombarded by graphic violence in the news, on line, in the movies and in games that are played it becomes an acceptable way to deal with your own frustrations. When people are allowed threaten the life of the President without repercussion, when people are allowed to endorse violence on someone they disagree with without repercussion, when people express happiness about some other persons tragedy we end up with a society that we see today. In such a society unstable people will turn to violence as they see it as a legitimate way to deal with their problems. Changing our society to a more tolerant, respectful one starts with politicians. They are in the public eye and should be leaders in how to act. As a civilized people we should no longer accept or allow politicians to act in a derogatory way towards another person or idea. Mutual respect while disagreeing needs to be the ideal we get back to.

  33. In case you are not aware, the ’45’ that looks like a sw.asti.ca, is supposed to represent the 45th president – ie: Trump.

    R

    • ’44’ wouldn’t be too far off!

      Now on Breitbart without attribution by ‘Assemblyman’ Tim Donnelly (5:42 AM PDT).

  34. How on EARTH did anyone think this was acceptable? These people who agreed this need to seriously look at themselves.

    • Sorry, meant to reply here, not below.

      She knew it was unacceptable. She got free viral world-wide advertising. Now orders will pour in from everywhere, and she can start a GoFundMe account as well. I blame the sign company for not rejecting her design out of hand.

  35. Hate is from the heart. It is what they that hate are made of. They cast what they are, onto the ones they hate. It is an ugly reflection.

    • She got free viral world-wide advertising. Now orders will pour in from everywhere, and she can start a GoFundMe account as well.

  36. This is a good analysis by Derek Hunter:

    “Has Google, the world’s most popular search engine, changed the definition of the word “fascism” to protect liberal mobs using violence to silence those who disagree with them politically? The evidence suggest they have.

    You see it on signs at every protest or riot — liberals accuse President Donald Trump of being a fascist. The word’s association with Adolf Hi11er and its use now is no accident, it’s meant to strike fear in people’s hearts of tyranny.

    Merriam-Webster defines the word “fascism” as “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The secondary definition is “a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.”

    “But if you type the word into Google, the definition they provide is quite different….Google defines fascism as, “an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.” (emphasis added)”

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/google-redefines-the-word-fascism-to-smear-conservatives-protect-liberal-rioters/

    How about if someday people just admit to themselves that the Nutzis were largely animated by racial Darwinism/rule by the fittest race. A little honesty would help. But I will not hold my breath.

  37. I think a trip to the American cemetery in Normandy is in order for many Americans. For me it was a gut wrenching experience. My wife was unable to walk among the graves of fallen Americans because it would be more than gut wrenching. I do not think I could visit a Nazis death camp. .

    I am a liberal Republican. I am not sure how some think they can define RINO. Label are a cheap way to attack others. I want to change the world where it needs to be changed. Conservative Republican isolationist before WWII, thought evil could be isolated by oceans.

    There is an interesting thing about good ideas. With time they become conservative ideas because the change is better. For example, integration of the US military happened before my time. Ending the draft and adopting an all voluntary occurred during my lifetime.

    The US is now clearly the only military superpower. This makes us the policeman of the world.

    The point I want to make, is that liberal and conservative labels are meaningless. What do you want to change and what do you want to keep the same. How do you plan to do it?

    The environment was important to my conservative Republican grandparents and my liberal Republican parents. Composting, gardening, and recycling were not political ideas. However, there became a time when in the US when government had create regulations to turn things around under Nixon.

    So as a liberal Republican I proud of the change that has resulted in eliminating air pollution in the US.

    However, liberal Democrats have turned it into a political issue. California is a perfect example of this. It is more about telling others how to live, than protecting the environment.

    Normandy is a symbol fascism. My not wanting to pay for you to flush your unborn baby down the toilet, does not make me a fascist. Maybe we need a national cemetery to remember the unborn.

    • The cemetery above Omaha beach at Normandy is one of many but gets more attention than any other overseas. And the graves of those, mostly airmen, scattered all over Europe from WW II get little attention from visitors. But where ever those graves and cemeteries are, all them, the countries from which those men came, did not come to stay. They did not come to dominate the land where they lie forever, for the duration. And that is the difference between the graves and cemeteries of Germans, Italians, and Japanese from WW II which lie outside their homeland.

      A story of personal experience. One of several this former soldier could tell.

      We are told quite often that the US is not respected and not like by a majority of the populace in Europe. The legacy of the Doughboys and Dog faces/GI’s long forgotten. Even the cold war protectors of Fulda Gap and all Western Europe from the military might and aggression of the Warsaw Pact not appreciated. Well, this may be true for some Europeans but it was not my experience in some of the places I went during my time as a US soldier in Europe.

      In 1986 I was a team member on ODA 071, Co. A, 1st Bn., 10th SFG(A) stationed at Flint Kaserne in Bad Tolz, Germany. As was typical at the time, most of this Battalion was tasked to support the various special operations sub-exercises of the huge annual Reforger exercise in Europe. We set up and helped run the various special operation exercises for teams coming out of CONUS (Continental US) to participate.

      The largest and best known of these special operations sub-exercises was the one conducted in Germany named Flintlock. But what many SF soldiers that weren’t in 10th Grp didn’t know was that there were smaller exercises of a type similar to Flintlock conducted in about all NATO member nations in Western Europe. That year my team was tasked to support Osprey, which was the Belgian equivalent of Flintlock.

      So, in early April of 1986 my team drove up to a Belgian Army facility in Arlone, Belgium. Being a paratrooper, a student of military history, and an admirer of George Patton, I was very happy to be spending time in the area of the Battle of the Bulge. The city of Arlone had been on the southern edge of the bulge and where the lead elements of the 4th Armored division passed through during their drive to Bastogne.

      After getting settled in to our Belgian Army barracks our first major task was to survey all the Drop Zones (DZs) the teams jumping in would or might use. Several of those DZs were near towns, villages, and cross roads with names that will forever be remembered in US military history. Bastogne was one of them.

      The DZ we were surveying was on the west edge of Bastogne. There was a long triangular patch of woods between us and the town to the east that served as the division between two fields. The woods was about 200 yards wide at road at it’s north end and then tapered down to nothing but a fence line as it ran to the south along the top a ridge forming a triangle about 1/4 of a mile long. We were on top of a ridge and as one looked out to the east he saw a series of rolling ridge lines with their long axis running generally north-south and they went that went on as far as the eye could see. It was all open farm land for the most part and as I remember I could see about a half dozen church steeples sticking up over the ridge lines marking the locations of villages that were nestled down in the valleys between the various ridges.

      As we were working on our survey a farmer walked up to us. He, spoke pretty good english and introduced himself as the owner of the land and we told him what we were doing.

      I asked him if he knew what had happened there abouts during the battle of the bulge and siege of Bastogne. He said yes he did, his father owned the land then and he was a little boy and witnessed some of it. He pointed over to the triangular patch of woods and said some of the American defensive positions for this side of the town are still right there just inside the tree line. We walked over with him and he showed us.

      Sure enough there were the rectangular depressions of what had obviously once been two man fox hole fighting positions spaced evenly about 30 feet apart all along the west side of the woodline. There were small irregular depressions that appeared to be from artillery strikes too. Further back in the woods there was one big hole which he told us was where after the battle the troops piled up a bunch of the debris and left over ammo and ordinance and blew it up to dispose of it and make it inert. As I looked closer at the ground I started to notice bits of metal laying right on top the ground unburied after all that time. Most of it was twisted junk from the explosion but then I started finding bent up .50 cal brass with 1943 stamped on the base. I found the remnants of the cylindrical german gas mask container and a damaged by easily recognizable part of a bazooka rocket round. There were also pieces of track from some kind of tracked vehicle(s) laying about.

      Then the farmer explained that after the Germans surrounded the town and several attacks from different directions failed they tried attacking the west side of the town coming across the fields to the moving east with some armor moving along the east west road that the base of the woods ran up to.

      I stood and looked out and tried to imagine what it would have looked like and I could see it in my minds eye. The Americans would have been very exposed to artillery preparation even in their foxholes. Shells hitting the trees in that woods would have rained shrapnel down upon them so if they had not put stout wood and dirt covers over their holes they would have suffered severely. Then as the Germans attacked they would have been sitting ducks if they did not have either smoke or fog to conceal them. As they crested every ridge on their approach and for a ways down the east face of the two nearest ridges they would have been perfect targets. Same thing for their Armor support. Then they faced a near assault right up the west face of the ridge we were on. It had to be hell for both sides. This attack happened the day before Patton’s 4th Armored broke into Bastogne with the tank “Cobra King” that I wrote about before leading the way. It was the last desperate attempt of the Germans to take the town for Patton’s forces reached it.

      I researched this engagement extensively after that visit and here at home online years ago. History shows that the Germans had already lost the battle by this time. But history also shows that in the next few weeks far more combatants from both sides would die as the Americans retook the ground they had lost than died when the Germans were on the offensive.

      While four of us were finishing up our survey of that alternate DZ we looked over to the road where our CUCV was parked we noticed a little white van with a guy standing by it. As we approached our vehicle the man appeared to be an old Belgian farmer. He wore the blue coveralls with trouser legs stuffed down into to tops of his high rubber boots typical of the work uniform for farmers working with livestock around that area.

      The man greeted us and after finding he spoke German (thankfully, since none of us were fluent in French or Flemish) we understood that he would like us to follow him in his vehicle a short distance to show us something. We were done for the day and so agreed.

      We followed the white van the short distance around to the north west side of Bastogne until he pulled up in front of a medium small building set on the edge of the rolling farm fields outside the NE side of town.

      The two story building looked ancient. Stone and stucco with green paint on the large paned window frames pealing away to reveal the paint of other colors below from countless previous paint jobs. There was a huge set of carved solid double wooden doors under the covered entranceway, one of which was open due to the mild weather. We followed our host through the door and found the place to be a kind of tavern. To the left was a small room with a couple of the old wooden table games using tops or balls. In front a beautiful old wooden staircase leading to the second floor. To right was a single larger room. All the floors were plain concrete that appeared to me to have been poured over the original stone floor.

      In this larger room there was an ancient ornately carved wooden stand up bar that ran along the whole back of the room complete with a large mirror and liquor shelves behind it. The thing looked like it has been around since the days of Napoleon. A couple of naked light bulbs hung from the ceiling by their wires supplemented the light coming through the widows. Scattered about the room were old wooden tables and chairs.

      The room with the bar was filled with old Belgian men. Most of these men appeared to be farmers since they wore garb similar to our host’s outfit. I got the impression that it was a place for the local farmers to gather, talk, and drink after a days work before going home to dinner.

      They all just looked at us at first when we came through the door and then after a quick introduction by our host they all came towards us and shook our hands and embraced us like we were long lost old friends. They offered us drinks of Cognac and beer, which we accepted. A couple of us that smoked offered them our American cigarettes which some of them accepted.

      At first I was shocked. But then as we sat there drinking and smoking and conversing as well as we could with these old Belgium men I came to understand. Most of these men were old enough to remember what happened here during the winter of 1944-45. And these guys had seen our paratrooper wings and that is all they needed to know to invite us so openly into their world. They wanted to shake our hands and press our shoulders and let us know how they felt even 42 years after the event.

      It was not us that earned this greeting, friendship, and respect. The reason we were here was because we were American soldiers enjoying the legacy of those that had come before us. Freezing, frost bitten, hungry, besieged paratroopers and regular ground troops who had fought and bled, and in some case died on the land these farmers worked had earned what we were now enjoying now. Most of them were old enough to have remembered some were not, but they were there too and showed us respect and so the legacy of what had happened there had been passed on to them by their fathers or grandfathers.

      There are Europeans around that remember. This was one of several experiences I had during my six weeks supporting Osprey. I drove all over the area where that battle occurred and got to look over so much of the ground I had read and studied about. We got a personal tour of Belgums national war museum and I actually got to touch the sleeve of one of Napoleons uniform coats and had many other wonderful experiences in that museum. I never understood how little Napoleon really was until I saw his uniform. I had read about it of course but to see that uniform really brought it home like nothing else could have. I’ll bet I was larger than him when I was 9 years old!

      I had a similar experience in Italy also. But that story will have to wait until later.

      Anyway, when a Special Forces ‘A’ team, like the one I was on, deploys for training or anything else, like our support mission for Osprey they take what they need with them of their personal and team equipment and the rest is inventoried and packed away in locked wooden or metal boxes and placed out ready to be put on aluminum palates for immediate air shipment. This is done in the event that the team is called to deploy for a “real world” mission while they are away training so their equipment can be shipped to their location, where ever they are going to stage for the mission, as efficiently as quickly as possible.
      Included in the standard SF team equipment was a radiation warfare kit. Among the various items in this kit were two “doseimeters”. Doseimeters do the same function and the radiation badges that people that work in places where they may be exposed do except these little devices that are about the size and shape of an old fountain pen are reusable. They measure the cumulative amount of radiation they are exposed to in “rads” between the time they were last calibrated and “zeroed” and when they are read.

      We did not take our radiation warfare kit with us to Belgium. The items in the kit were packed in their rubberized canvas cases which in turn were packed inside of one of those supposedly airtight metal breifcase things, which in turn was packed inside of a heavy plywood wooden box. That box along with every thing else was laid out and stacked ready for shipment on our “team room” floor.

      Our “team room” was located in the first underground floor of the huge quadrangle of Flint Kasserne which was built by the Nazis during WW II as an SS officers training school. This huge quadrangle building was of heavy steel reinforced concrete construction with 4 above ground floors over our team room topped off with a typical red tile Bavarian style roof. There was a small “well window” in the team room.

      When we got back both dosimeters read 5 rads! The commo man, who’s responsibility it was to pack the dosimeters swore that as per SOP he had calibrated both dosimeters and zeroed them before they were packed away.

      • “We are told quite often that the US is not respected and not like by a majority of the populace in Europe.”

        Only by the extremely vociferous Loony Left and the Loony Left dominated mass media such as the Guardian and the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation.

        Not by the majority of the real population by a long chalk.

      • Oh, and despite everything you’ve no doubt read and been told to the contrary, you would be surprised how much support there is amongst the majority of the population for President Donald Trump too!

      • I had at least a half dozen friendly encounters during port calls in the Mediterranean in 1979. People my parents age would have lived through the depression and WWII.

        One man told me he learned English in a American POW camp. An enemy soldier was grateful we liberated his country. I attended Passover in a synagogue in Greece. There were very few that were my parents age. They had lost their families.

        I made an effort to say hello in their language. When I went to pay, often my money was refused. In perfect English the response would be, “A gift for you.”

  38. Change the record, left wing lunatics. According to you, Nixon was Hitler, Reagen was Hitler, George Bush was Hitler and now Trump is Hitler. Just about the only recent Republican president who might…might.. have escaped your childish Hitler tag was GHW Bush. Perhaps you can still convene to decide that, retrospectively, after due thought and consideration, GHW Bush was, in fact, Hitler.

  39. Irony. Fascist methods used to paint the Capitalist anti-fascist as Hitler.
    The modern Progressive movement is Adolf’s wet-dream.

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