Enough is Enough! Stop hyping Harvey and Irma!

 

Dr. Neil Frank, former Director National Hurricane Center

Over the past several weeks numerous articles suggest Harvey and Irma were the result of global warming. The concept is a warmer earth will generate stronger and wetter hurricanes. A number of people have said Irma was the most intense hurricane in the history of the Atlantic while Harvey was the wettest and both were good examples of what we can expect in the future because of global warming. What does a fact check reveal about these two hurricanes?

Irma was indeed a very powerful Cat 5 hurricane when it moved across the Leeward Islands and the 185 mph winds reported by a recon plane at 10,000 ft. were among the strongest recorded in Atlantic hurricanes. How does Irma compare to other intense Atlantic hurricanes? To answer that question, we must first look at the history of the methods used to determine the strength of a hurricane because it changed early this century.

There are two ways to determine the strength of a hurricane. One is to measure the winds with an airplane. The Air Force always flies at 10,000 ft. and empirical relationships are used to convert the 10,000 ft. winds to surface winds. The other is to drop a barometer into the eye and measure the pressure. Since there is a direct relation between the pressure and the wind, if you know one you can compute the other.

Historically, the central pressure was the predominate factor in determining the strength of a hurricane. When the Saffir/Simpson hurricane scale was developed in the early 1970s, all past hurricanes were ranked on the Saffir/Simpson hurricane scale according to their central pressure. Today that policy has changed and now hurricanes are ranked exclusively by the wind. That is why it was possible to declare Irma was the strongest hurricane ever observed in the Atlantic when the plane reported 185 mph winds. But, what does the central pressure tell us about Irma?

For those not familiar with pressure, one of the standard units of measure is millibars (mb). The normal pressure in the U.S. is usually between 1010 and 1030 mb. In the tropics if the pressure drops below 1000 mb, it generally means a Cat 1 hurricane has formed. The pressure in a major Cat 3 hurricane is usually around 950 mb and a Cat 5 occurs when the pressure is below 920 mb. When the pressure drops below 900 mb., you have a super hurricane comparable to the most intense Pacific typhoons.

How does Irma compare with other strong historical hurricanes if we use the central pressure to determine the strength rather than wind? The lowest central pressure recorded in Irma was 914 millibars. The lowest pressure ever recorded in an Atlantic hurricane was 882 mb while Wilma was in the northwest Caribbean Sea in 2005. The lowest pressure for a land falling hurricane was 892 mb when the 1935 hurricane crossed the Florida Keys. There have been 10 hurricanes with central pressures below 910 mb of which 5 were below 900 mb. Irma did not even make the top 10; therefore, it was not close to being the strongest hurricane ever observed In the Atlantic.

Now lets us turn our focus on hurricane Harvey. Harvey has been labeled the wettest hurricane in history; however, the 50 inches recorded in the hurricane is not related to global warming. The reason for the heavy rain is the hurricane stalled for 3 days and unfortunately southeast Texas is where that happened.

The amount of rain in a tropical system is not related to the strength of the wind, it depends on the forward speed of motion. Before we had sophisticated numerical models to forecast the amount of rain a system would produce, we used a simple empirical equation that gave good results. Determine the forward speed of motion and divide it into 100.

If a tropical system is moving 10 mph, expect 10 inches of rain, 20 inches for a system moving 5 mph and if the forward speed is only 2 mph be prepared for 50 inches. That is exactly what happened in Harvey. The hurricane was moving around 2 mph for 3 days and a broad band of 40 to 50 inches of rain covered a large portion of southeast Texas and southwest Louisiana.

There are numerous examples of stalled tropical systems producing excessive rains. For example, in 1979 tropical storm Claudette stalled for 2 days and generated over 40 inches in a broad area south of downtown Houston. The 42 inches that fell in 24 hours in Alvin is the record for a 24 hour rain in the U.S. A year earlier, stalled tropical Storm Amelia produced 48 inches in central Texas. In 1967 slow moving Hurricane Beulah moved into in south Texas and generated between 30 and 40 inches inland from Brownsville.

If there had been a rain gauge in the area east of the Bahamas where Hurricane Jose stalled for four days, I am sure it would have recorded over 60 inches.

The U.S. has a long history of bad hurricanes. Listed below are several noteworthy intense hurricanes that occurred in the late 1800s long before there was an increase of CO2.

The most active year for landfalling hurricanes in the lower 48 states was in 1886 when 7 hurricanes crossed the coast. Four were in Texas and two of these were major. The August Cat 4 destroyed what remained of Indianola. Indianola was a thriving sea port community on the south shore of Matagorda Bay in the mid-1850s before being nearly destroyed by a Cat 4 hurricane in 1875. They were in the process of rebuilding when the 1886 hurricane struck.

There were two Cat 4 hurricanes in 1893. The one in Louisiana killed 1800 people on a coastal island. In the second one, another 1800 died when a 16 ft. storm surge inundated Hilton Head Island, South Carolina.

The deadliest hurricane in U.S. history occurred in 1900 when a 17 ft. storm surge swept across Galveston Island killing over 10,000 people.

The 1900 hurricane was a Cat 4.

In conclusion, Harvey and Irma were typical intense Atlantic hurricanes. They both developed from African disturbances during the peak of the hurricane season. The strength of Irma as determined by central pressure was consistent with a number of other past intense hurricanes. The heavy rain in Harvey was the result of a stalled hurricane and was not caused by increased atmospheric moisture associated with global warming.

There was nothing identifiable with these two hurricanes that would justify an urgent request to support actions that would limit global warming. It is sad that those promoting these actions are so insensitive to the shredded emotions of hundreds of thousands of people in Texas, Louisiana and Florida who have just experienced nightmarish losses and now they are being blamed for causing the hurricanes because they did not support actions to reduce CO2.

Speaking of CO2, there is a very intense controversy over what is causing the earth to warm. The earth has been warming for over 150 years. That is not debatable. What is debatable is the cause. Is it CO2 as “warmest” proclaim or other natural cycles? Solar experts in Asia, the Middle East and parts of Europe believe it is the sun. Over the past 3 1/2 years they have published over 400 papers that discredit CO2 and support natural cycles of the sun. If this is true, why is there intense pressure to spend billions and billions of dollars on green energy?

So what do “warmest” want you to do? First and foremost they demand you endorse the Paris Climate Accord made in December 2015 and agreed to by 194 countries. President Trump withdrew from this agreement earlier this year and the “warmest“ are livid. The stated purpose of the plan is to reduce CO2 and develop Green Energy.

One of the objectives of the agreement is to establish a Green Climate Fund that will be distributed to developing nations to help them convert to green energy. The goal is to have $100 billion in this fund by 2020. Where is the money coming from? Approximately 45 nations have been designated donor countries which means there will be about 150 receiver nations including China.

At the original Paris meeting donor nations pledged about $10 billion of which over 80% would come from 6 nations; England, Germany, France, Sweden, Japan and the U.S.. The U.S. made the biggest pledge of $3.5 billion with the other 5 nations pledging between $1 and $1.5 billion each. To date the U.S. has sent $1 billion to the U.N. as a down payment on our pledge and the other 5 nations around $1/2 billion each. The U.N. has hired 156 employees to monitor the plan with an annual salary of $29 million.

This only the beginning. Christiana Figueres, the U.N. Chairperson of the Paris Conference said recently the Paris plan will cost $1.5 trillion over the next 3 years if every nation complied with the program.

If President Trump were to reverse his decision and once again have the U.S. participate in the Paris Accord, we would immediately owe the U.N. $2.5 billion against our pledge. Just maybe it would be better to take that money and help the 150,000 whose homes were flooded in SE Texas during Harvey.

One last comment, what is the real reason for the Paris Accord? One of the most revealing statements I have seen comes from a top official in the U.N. climate change program. Ottmar Odenhofer said ”We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy”. In other words, it an international program to redistribute wealth: Whose wealth? Our wealth!

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September 26, 2017 12:42 am

Irma was indeed a very powerful Cat 5 hurricane when it moved across the Leeward Islands and the 185 mph winds reported by a recon plane at 10,000 ft. were among the strongest recorded in Atlantic hurricanes. How does Irma compare to other intense Atlantic hurricanes?

If the idea is to evaluate scientifically the relationships between atmospheric gas composition, temperature and movement, limiting the comparison to one location on Earth seems defective. Naturally we can discuss also the politics, but then it should be identified as such. In the meanwhile
Venus. >95% CO2. Approx 880 F, 470 °C. When Venus Express arrived at the planet in 2006, average cloud-top wind speeds between latitudes 50º on either side of the equator were clocked at roughly 300 km/h. The results of two separate studies have revealed that these already remarkably rapid winds are becoming even faster, increasing to 400 km/h over the course of the mission. Source ESA. Looks like the air is pretty stale inside a greenhouse.
Earth. Approx 66 F, 19 °C . 70% N2. maximum wind gust recorded 408 km/h (113 m/s). Source World Meteorological Association.
Mars. Approx -67 F, -55 °C. >95% CO2. The winds in the strongest Martian storms top out at about 60 miles per hour, less than half the speed of some hurricane-force winds on Earth. Source NASA. <100 km/h
Uranus.Mostly H. Approx -357 F, -216 °Celsius. The winds of Uranus can blow clouds up to 560 miles per hour (900 km/h). Source space.com
Neptune. Mostly H. Approx -353 F. -214 Celsius. Winds can reach up to 1,500 miles per hour (2,400 km/h), the fastest planetary winds detected yet in the solar system. Source space.com
I’m inclined to conclude mankind is less powerful than the sun.

ren
September 26, 2017 1:27 am

The dependence of air circulation on magnetic fields is visible.
https://www.facebook.com/Sunclimate-719393721599910/

Griff
September 26, 2017 1:52 am

Just look at the state of Puerto Rico and Tortola
Isn’t that enough to show recent hurricanes have been extreme, damaging or any other adjective you care to apply?
Why all the downplaying? And diversion by looking at scale as the US was impacted, not where they were at their worst?
And 3 damaging hurricanes at the start of the season -run of the mill?

JonA
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 3:02 am

What’s your point?
Not a single person is saying there weren’t any hurricanes or
that they were not very powerful hurricanes. The objection is
over the repeated use of the term ‘unprecedented’ and the
linkage to AGW when there isn’t a single shred of evidence to
do that. Let’s spend these TRILLIONS of dollars helping
people affected by climate related disasters and ameliorating
the impacts of future disasters. After all, we KNOW there will
be hurricane disasters in the future, regardless of whether
AGW is significant or not.

RAH
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 3:11 am

The hurricanes have been at the traditional height of the Atlantic Hurricane season Griff.
The season as currently defined runs from June 1 thru November 30th. September being the most active month most years.
11 years and 10 months with no major hurricanes striking the lower 48 is luck. Two supposed Cat 4s striking the US coast and one striking unincorporated territories of the US is of course due to climate change. Only a moron would buy that claim.

I Came I Saw I Left
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 3:21 am

I sw a drone flyover video of parts of San Juan after Maria. The degree of damage was not characteristic of a cat 4 hurricane. A lot of flooding, but very little wind damage to structures.

I Came I Saw I Left
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 3:24 am

And 3 damaging hurricanes at the start of the season -run of the mill?

Not run-of-the-mill, but certainly not unprecedented or atypical.

Latitude
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 4:56 am

Griff….3 major hurricanes hit Florida in 2004

RAH
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 5:27 am

BTW Griff.
While activity in the Atlantic region is high, in all the rest of the regions of the world where tropical cyclones form and impact are very quiet. In the words of Joe Bastardi they have “shut down”. Effects of climate on severe weather are supposed to be global but alarmists, like ambulance chasing lawyers just run to where ever the problems occur.

pbweather
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 5:59 am

Not the start of the season. Peak hurricane activity is the first week of Sept. And the point being made is that this has all happened before many times over in the Atlantic and around the globe. Not unprecedented. The media should know this, probably do, but hype up unprecedented and link to global warming anyway. Darwin 1974 after TC Tracey. comment image

james whelan
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 7:32 am

Griff, I refer you to the parable of the 3 little pigs. Strong wind will play havoc with poor building and poor infrastructure.
You are a fellow Brit, so I extend my question previously asked of Mr Mosher to you. Describe how CO2 had anything to do with hurricane bawbag in 2011. Describe how it formed in the cold north atlantic and how it produced recorded sustained ground level wind speeds of over 100 mph across Glasgow , far higher than those recorded at ground level during Irma or Maria. You might also comment on the small amount of damage caused and that power supplies were fully restored in 2 days. You may also like to say how and why an even stronger storm hit the central belt just a few days later in early January 2012 ( the Scots don’t talk much about this one, because it was after hogmanay and most were too ‘happy’ to notice a wee bit of wind).
I don’t hold my breath, you are far too devoted to your religion to question anything.

LdB
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 7:43 am

Griff there have been a huge number of Earthquakes and they have been extreme and damaging … so what? Repeat after me, Correlation does not imply causation next you will be praying to the great Volcano god or some goat god.

RAH
Reply to  LdB
September 26, 2017 8:17 am

There is no correlation. As CO2 levels have risen, neither severe hurricane incidence nor global ACE has followed suit.

Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 8:34 am

Griff,
“And 3 damaging hurricanes at the start of the season -run of the mill?”
And what about the unprecedented 4323 day drought between major Hurricanes hitting the US? Was this also caused by CO2 emissions?
After all this time and you still can’t recognize the difference between weather and climate. No wonder your side is loosing on the science front. Given the current administrations emphasis on deprecating redistributive economics, it’s only a matter of time before the far left politics bolstering the unprecedentedly broken science driving the warmist cult implodes allowing science conforming to the laws of nature to assume its proper place superceding science conforming to a political narrative.

catweazle666
Reply to  Griff
September 26, 2017 5:26 pm

“And 3 damaging hurricanes at the start of the season -run of the mill?”
Making stuff up again, Skanky?
You are completely shameless.
Now go and apologise to you-know-who for publicly and maliciously attempting to damage her professional reputation.

Roger Knights
September 26, 2017 4:17 am

This hurricane-strength hyping, as explained in the head post, seems to plainly illustrate the untrustworthiness of mainstream institutions and spokespersons on climate-change-related information. As such, it could be used to diminish the credibility of their other alarmism on the topic. This would be a more effective persuasive tactic to the public than attacking “the science” on technical grounds.
A whole series of short (under four minutes) videos could / should be created, each dealing with a separate aspect of mainstream hyping. For example, there are these famous cases: polar bears endangered, amphibians endangered (yes, but by researchers’ contamination), butterflies endangered (phony statistics employed), pikas endangered (ditto), species endangered (yes, but not by AGW), Kilamanjaro endangered, Arctic death spiral (flat for ten years), Katrina as a harbinger of similar strikes, Australian water supplies endangered, death threats to Australian climatologists (nonexistent), ethanol as a good “green” solution, Solyndra etc. as fund-worthy, cliaims of green jobs, Himalayas endangered, low-lying islands threatened, more tornados threatened, less snow threatened, semi-tropical Britain coming soon (so plant grapes), spread of malaria threatened, the Chevy Volt will soon sell massively, China and India are going green, the Alaska pipeline as a threat to wildlife, let’s eat insects for protein, etc., etc., etc., etc. (Others can append more.)
A series of such snarky snippets, each demolishing a bite-sized instance of hysteric hyperbole, and accompanied by a catchy tune, and presented with occasional amusing touches, would have the collective effect of greatly increasing the public’s skepticism of other alarmist hype (e.g., fracking is a threat to drinking water) without directly attacking it. Anyone who is sensitive to & aware of how to influence a large audience—i.e., anyone who has a “political sense”—should instantly grasp that what I’ve just described is “a winner.” (I was the president of my student council in high school, and the landslide winner of my election, so I claim to have such a sense.) Indeed, such persons should have thought of it themselves decades ago. In particular, skeptical-oriented “think tanks” and foundations should have “got with this program” ages ago. Why haven’t they!? Wake up and fly right!!!

Roger Knights
Reply to  Roger Knights
September 26, 2017 4:31 am

PS: Such snippets should have a somewhat similar format, by beginning with quotations from alarmists (ideally video or audio snippets of themselves, or at least a photo of them), followed by the refutation. They should end with clickable links to relevant sources, along with an instruction to viewers to stop the video to print out or copy and paste the list somehow. (If on YouTube, this could be done in the text below the video.)
There should be a very knowledgeable rapid response team to rebut hostile comments. It should prepare extensively beforehand to locate warmists’ online defenses of their false claims—this is vital, and may be more expensive and tedious than actually creating the video.

I Came I Saw I Left
Reply to  Roger Knights
September 26, 2017 4:42 am

Tony Heller’s already doing an outstanding job with his videos. https://t.co/jNSTAz2NOa

Roger Knights
Reply to  Roger Knights
September 26, 2017 11:54 am

PPS: A key tactic in this series should be to pre-empt any effective comeback by the other side. To do that it should be conceded in advance. For instance, if only a few climatologists predicted an ice age in the 70s, that should be mentioned. If only a few predicted and end of snow in Britain, or an Arctic death spiral, etc., a similar mention should be made. Not only is this strategically wise, it’s also the right thing to do.
OTOH, it could be added that despite such alarmism being the ultimate responsibility of a few, its amplification by environmental journalists is the fault of the mainstream media and green NGOs. Even when such media use tempered language, the mere fact that they treat such claims seriously enough to give them space and prominence sends a message to readers that they should be taken seriously. The silence of the climatological community in the face of such unlikely claims tars them too.
Further, when a far-out claim has been issued by an official body (e.g., IGPOCC’s claim that Himalayan glaciers would be gone by 2035) or by a key employee of such a body, that deserves to be treated as an extra reason for its condemnation.

Reply to  Roger Knights
September 26, 2017 7:47 am

RK, you will find most of your examples illustrated as portions of or as complete prose essays in ebook Blowing Smoke.

Roger Knights
Reply to  ristvan
September 26, 2017 12:05 pm

I have your book and like it. (And I like Tony Heller’s videos.) What I’m proposing is a better way of “packaging” the information in them; i.e., putting them in a more influential format. The features I envisage are its serial nature (leaving room for additions, sequels, and updates); its brisk pace; its avoidance of complicated or borderline matters (e.g., the Hockey Stick); its use of a common light-hearted style through the series; common theme music; employment of cartoons and GIFs; an amusing narrator (Morano?), etc. Each series-snippet should be fun to watch and re-watch—e.g., they should not be too heavy-handed.

Mr Julian Forbes-Laird
September 26, 2017 5:00 am

Following Ryan Maue and Joe Bastardi on Twitter, seeing some of their retweeted posts from meteo colleagues, and now reading this excellent article, I get the sense that US meteorologists may be a pretty skeptical bunch. Splendid.

RAH
Reply to  Mr Julian Forbes-Laird
September 26, 2017 7:36 am

Depends on who they work for. Bastardi works for himself. He says it like he sees it at Weatherbell.com as does Dr. Maue currently with the CATO institute and still apparently associated Weatherbell also.
For any of you that follow the running ACE index that Dr. Maue produces it there a new link for it? Mine from weatherbell has gone dead. Is it available elsewhere?

ossqss
Reply to  RAH
September 26, 2017 8:02 am
RAH
Reply to  RAH
September 26, 2017 8:20 am

Thank you. Though I’m not on twitter I can still read the tweets and graphics.

LdB
Reply to  Mr Julian Forbes-Laird
September 26, 2017 8:07 am

It’s not even being skeptic it’s being realistic look at the facts as believed by CAGW supporters. So you think you have temperatures some fractions of a degree above those for the last decade along with CO2 levels. You have the figures for hurricanes for the last decades and there was no significant problem. Then you have something that behaves like a normal system for that time of year, tracks on a normal path but is plus some value from normal.
No logical scientist would conclude that some fraction of a degree between last year and this suddenly created the plus effect unless your going to invoke the sharpest tipping point known in the natural world. If that was true we are all dead within 5 years as and you can forget about 2030 emission targets.
The fact is if there is a link between hurricanes and CAGW it is going to take decades of data to work out because the change are tiny. The public aren’t stupid and the more the CAGW fringe nutcases make these sorts of claims the more the ridiculous they look. It’s like Griff does anyone seriously believe anything he writes he has done his credibility in and there is no coming back.

Reply to  LdB
September 26, 2017 10:16 am

“No logical scientist would conclude that some fraction of a degree between last year and this suddenly created the plus effect …”
Logical being the operative word. The problem is that politics chose sides and the intrinsic subjectivity of political ideologies has subverted climate science in such a way to make logic irrelevant.

ossqss
September 26, 2017 7:56 am

For Griff on hurricane season. September is not the start of the season, it is the peak.
http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160811155136-hurricane-peak-chart-exlarge-169.jpg

tom0mason
September 26, 2017 8:12 am

Yes, the alarmist should stop hyping up this huge hurricane season — the longest, hardest, worstest, and expensivist hurricane ever in the history of time itself! The hurricane season that broke box-office records in being the most futile reporting but the most imaginative ever reported.
Media reports and reporters? I could sh*t more talent!
It’s hardest enough that it has been the hottest hot year on over-adjusted record!
OK kiddies got the message, or not?
It’s just weather — normal, changeable, natural variable weather!

September 26, 2017 9:01 am

I survived hurricane Irma in Kissimmee Florida. They said we experienced category 2 winds. Yet the highest wind speeds I saw on the tv were 65 mph. As a Canadian (having never experienced a hurricane), it was scary and all, but in the end, just a bad storm. I am starting to believe the posters that are suggesting there is a huge disconnect between the radar etc. sensors and reality.

September 26, 2017 9:02 am

Regarding “185 mph winds reported by a recon plane at 10,000 ft.”: The #27 forecast discussion mentions SFMR readings, which are indirect measurements of surface wind over water, of 160 knots which when rounded to the nearest MPH (usual NHC practice) is 185 MPH.

September 26, 2017 9:29 am

Superb article!

September 26, 2017 10:16 am

during irma i almost got banned from a weather forum for daring to point out the “news” was FALSE and nothing but HYPE for irma…..ONE person on fox news after irma had passed tampa said paraphrasing, now we wait for the real problem that wont be here until tomorrow the 15 foot wall of water that is going to hit tampa for certain………the mods there challenged me about storm surge then deleted the posts when i explained how no storm surge EVER hits over 24 hours later.

crackers345
September 26, 2017 10:33 am

Dr. Frank – if the
sun were responsible for modern warming,
the stratosphere would be warming.
Instead it is cooling (and, yes, after subtracting
out ozone loss). this is
a prediction
of AGW theory.
really, you should know this

Keith
September 26, 2017 10:44 am

Excellent article. The hysterical won’t stop to think for one minute – not their style – but some of those swept along by it might at least pause for thought and reconsider based on evidence. An analogy for the broader AGW debate, hopefully.
Just one small nit to pick. Is that a typo, stating that 1000mb in the tropics generally means a Cat1 hurricane has formed? 1000mb is more like a 45-50mph tropical storm, based on the historical record, isn’t it? About 980mb will typically be Cat1, depending on the broader synoptic pattern / radius of the pressure gradient.

ren
September 26, 2017 10:47 am
Caligula Jones
September 26, 2017 1:27 pm

C’mon, you want me to read and believe an actual expert on hurricanes, when there is enough anecdotal evidence provided by movie stars, “singers” and other pop culture “celebrities” that this is the End Times (send money to my fake charity)?

RAH
September 27, 2017 11:09 am

How about stop hyping Maria?
This is a current AP headline:
“Maria, again a hurricane, swirls over North Carolina beaches”
http://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/maria-again-a-hurricane-swirls-over-north-carolina-beaches/ar-AAsvQX7?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
Maria is far off the outer banks and part of that area is experiencing tropical storm force winds and waves. But to read that headline one would think that Maria had struck the shores instead of it meandering off to the NE as it is.

James at 48
September 27, 2017 2:33 pm

The NHS. The National Hysteria Center. They used to have a blog IIRC. I recall a link either on here, on Pielke Sr’s old blog or on Climate Audit. I don’t recall which.

James at 48
September 27, 2017 2:35 pm

Found it …. IT’S ALIVE! (but clearly not updated for a few years):
http://nationalhysteriacenter.blogspot.com/

September 28, 2017 3:38 pm

Look on the bright side.
The Storm Channel might finally put Katrina and Sandy to rest.
They have new events to rerun.

Thomas Barlow
September 29, 2017 7:58 am

The weatherman, Dr. Neil Frank, is talking about local events caused by the hurricane – epiphenomena – not the actual hurricane which rose up in the eastern Atlantic and tracked for over a week across the Atlantic and up Florida, eventually receding over Georgia.
The size of these recent hurricanes were huge comparing to the past, the total perceptible water (not local rain events) was huge. Wether that water fell over land or not is irrelevant, or even if it fell at all. The sustained winds were about as strong as wind can get at sea-level, when they over the Atlantic – again, local wind events on land do not measure these hurricanes. Climate-scientists have been predicting bigger and stronger storms from anthropogenic global-warming for decades now. That’s what these are. Neil Frank is, again, only talking about local events. Not the whole animal.
In the link below here is a photo of the little Hurricane Claudette which Frank cites to make his point – only because it lingered over land for a bit longer than usual. That’s the only reason he mentioned it. Citing local events does not tell you anything about the size and power of the hurricane over its course. Claudette, and the others Neil Frank cites, were small. Sustained wind speeds for hurricanes have limits at sea-level. Irma, Maria, and Harvey were as strong as it gets for sustained speeds at some point in their lifespan.
Frank is using local epiphenomena to try to deny climate-science. These recent hurricanes MAY not be the worst on record, but nothing he cites has any relevance to that ongoing analysis. 2017 is shaping up to be the worst season on record.
‘lil ol’ Hurricane Claudette:comment image
Hurricane Irma:
http://images.deccanchronicle.com/dc-Cover-8adfl7bc7qo2c7gbvl1ah3esc7-20170911141016.Medi.jpeg
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Reply to  Thomas Barlow
September 30, 2017 2:49 pm

Frank is using local epiphenomena to try to deny climate-science.

Uh…what?
Dr. Frank is a real expert on hurricanes. (I’d guess he has been since before you were born.)
He’s addressing the “hype”.
Such hurricanes have happened before. They will happen again. They are natural.
Put and keep “climate-science” in quotes, then, yeah, even natures denies it.

catweazle666
Reply to  Thomas Barlow
September 30, 2017 3:25 pm

“The size of these recent hurricanes were huge comparing to the past”
No they weren’t.
Stop making stuff up.

September 30, 2017 12:16 am

We can divert the HURRICANES so that it does not cause harm to the population.
http://www.presapuente.com
https://youtu.be/tRn4eUQ3ewY