Former NASA scientist disses @NASAGISS – says it's a "monument to bad science"

Climate scientist Dr. Duane Thresher:

Start with defunding NASA GISS where this whole global warming nonsense started. It was started by James Hansen, formerly head of NASA GISS and considered the father of global warming. It was continued by Gavin Schmidt, current head of NASA GISS, anointed by Hansen, and leading climate change warrior scientist/spokesperson. I know from working there for 7 years that NASA GISS has almost been defunded several times in its life anyway. It’s a small group over a restaurant (Tom’s Restaurant from the TV comedy Seinfeld!) in New York City, nowhere near any other major NASA facility. Just the dedicated data link to the nearest NASA facility, GSFC in Maryland, is a big expense. GISS is the Goddard Institute for SPACE Studies. If you don’t need a rocket to get to it, it’s not space.”

Thresher rips former colleagues:

Physicists and mathematicians who couldn’t make it in their own fields, like James Hansen and Gavin Schmidt (who actually told me one reason he became a climate scientist was because he couldn’t make it in his degree field of mathematics). People who just wanted instant success as fake heroes or showmen rather than doing years of hard slow obscure real science.”

“NASA GISS is a monument to bad science that truly should be torn down.”

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h/t to Climate Depot

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September 14, 2017 3:45 am

Commented on this article, more in desperation than anger, at
https://cliscep.com/2017/09/14/the-elderly-white-leftwing-sceptical-mans-burden/

September 14, 2017 3:52 am

The ex NASA clown?
Did any of you ever read what he wrote about using GCMs as a solution to doing Paleo recons?
http://columbia-phd.org/RealClimatologists/AboutUs/Thresher2007_rejected.pdf

LdB
Reply to  Steven Mosher
September 14, 2017 11:21 am

Einstein’s 1936 paper was an absolute disaster and Hawkings put a pile of junk in 2014 in which he proved there were no black holes. Pretty ironic since the now 3 gravity wave detections and a few more more currently in review.
So according to Steven Mosher, Einstein and Hawkings are what … clowns? So we should throw out all the work that is basically what you are saying isn’t it.
This is the problem with Global Warming discussions selective amnesia by all sides and you get better discussions out of a 2 year old.

Sixto
Reply to  Steven Mosher
September 14, 2017 11:27 am

Mosh,
The difference being that with paleoclimate, you have actual data, whereas with using GCM to forecast out to 2100, alarmists simply invent “data” based upon nonphysical assumptions not in evidence.
I’d have thought that key distinction was obvious.

John
September 14, 2017 4:15 am

Eh, not really interested in trash talking or insults from either side.
The unfortunate thing about GISS and other temperature constructs is that so much of the “data” is from infilling and a lot of the infilling and “corrections” of data came after the AGW hypothesis was accepted and well funded. There is a valid concern that global warming is not just man made, but in part at least, man fabricated. While constant corrections continue to take place and while most data is guessed by people with a vested interest in AGW, there can’t be any complaints that people don’t trust the data.
Alas, things don’t change. There is no attempt to move away from massive infilling by spending some of those hundreds of billions on actually maintaining a vast land and sea record.
I don’t make allegations of outright fraud, but climate gate showed a certain blasé attitude with what climate scientists consider to be not on message or blips.

DrTorch
September 14, 2017 6:51 am

Pretty much what I’ve observed as well.

September 14, 2017 7:02 am

The verdict – Gavin Schmidt, guilty of the crime of falsification of public records
The sentence – Jail time

Steve Oregon
September 14, 2017 7:09 am

The problem is millions of progressives, rabid lefties and various political institutions do not care how bad the science is.
They believe it to be justifiable and useful means.
That is how and why Hansen and Schmidt have been able to perpetrate what they have without any consequences.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Steve Oregon
September 14, 2017 7:16 am

That could describe the 1930s in Europe as well.

Santa Baby
Reply to  Steve Oregon
September 14, 2017 8:48 pm

It’s simply just neomarxism making up a problem and science and politicizing it to attack the Western World and again try to promote their utopian ideology that already have been tried and failed X times the last 100 years

RWturner
September 14, 2017 8:41 am

Want a good laugh? Compare the wikipedia pages of GISS and Marshall Space Flight Center which details the agency’s accomplishments.

Mary Brown
September 14, 2017 12:06 pm

That is some serious ranting and totally out of bounds. Would be much better if he would stick to the scientific shortcomings. I suspect it’s true, but not appropriate.
As for young women dating climate scientists… who would do such a thing?…LOL. I was outnumbered 20 to 1 by geeks in my collegiate days in atmospheric science. I only knew one climatologist. He had no funding. Times have changed.

September 14, 2017 1:45 pm

If NASA/GISS is a Broadway comedy show, then what is this:
US Patent 4993403
Copy/paste and Google it. I’m gonna make you work for it. (^_^)

The Reverend Badger
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
September 14, 2017 3:54 pm

Very important, deserves careful study. Questions may be asked later. You will not be allowed to use the word “photon” in your answers. The student who claimed that heat energy can be transferred from a cold object to a warmer one will be required to construct a working model over the weekend.

September 14, 2017 1:56 pm

Mary B.,
Given how “out of bounds” some of the alarmists activities seem to be, I ‘m thinking that a little more “out of bounds” behavior by really smart people might be in order.
… especially given the energy configurations of the two sides, (1) alarmists ALLOWED to be heated, passionate, emotionally effusive spokespeople, and (2) real scientists SUPPOSED to be calm, collected, level-headed, matter of fact.
Now which do you think is more likely to win mass support? Squeaky wheels, or well oiled quiet wheels?
Social expectations automatically give alarmists the message-marketing advantage.

The Reverend Badger
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
September 14, 2017 4:03 pm

I believe it was months ago that I suggested you should SHOUT YOUR OPINIONS out. If you hear a falsehood CALL IT OUT. One of my pet favourite sayings this past month has been the simple “You are wrong, the atmosphere doesn’t work like that”. The conversion rate is low but at least it is positive with one relative and my gardner now moving in the right direction.

Mary Brown
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
September 15, 2017 1:09 pm

I like to stick to the science and let the Chicken Little’s do all the screaming and yelling. Then I politely ask “Who is denying science here?”
Also, I only work on people who have their mind partly open. No sense screaming at closed-minded partisans.

John W. Garrett
September 15, 2017 6:17 am

Wow !!!
I will be following Duane Thresher.
If you do nothing else today or this week, visit his website:
http://columbia-phd.org/RealClimatologists/index.html