A useful retort for those claiming #Irma & #Harvey hurricanes are a sure sign of 'climate change'

History can be a pesky thing, facts are stubborn things. There’s lot’s of caterwauling in the left about hurricane Irma on the heels of Harvey, being a sure sign of ‘climate change’ or global warming, or ‘climate disruption’ or something. A couple of days ago, king of the alarmists, Dr. Michael Mann, and his ex NCDC/NCEI toadie Dr. Thomas Peterson (architect of the Karlization of the global temperature record),  penned a ridiculous op-ed in the Washinton Post:

Only in the mind of Mann can such drivel be produced. Mann is not a hurricane expert, he’s also apparently not a scholar of history.

Dr. Philip Klotzbach is both:

So the question for Mann et al. is: what drove those major hurricanes to be so close together in 1933? Surely if that happened today, it would be used to “kill any doubt” Right?

And what about the fact that Irma and Harvey have come in 7th and 18th compared to storms of that era, hmmm?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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scute1133
September 11, 2017 6:18 am

From Mann’s WP Op-Ed:
“For example, without the taxpayer-subsidized National Flood Insurance Program, banks would be less likely to provide mortgages for rebuilding houses in locations that have been flooded before, sometimes repeatedly.”
Crazy lefty “spend other people’s money” talk right there.

September 11, 2017 6:19 am

It’s only the headline for useful idi0ts that counts. What has Mann done since his PhD hockeystick SciFi works? Is it because a hurricane looks like tree rings? How many millions have we paid for that last century’s work. Now he’s cheering on floods, droughts, storms and going around in circles, the fate of a tree ring performer.

Resourceguy
September 11, 2017 7:15 am

Their real agenda is protecting their own status and story line and has nothing to do with hurricanes or their lack of expertise with hurricanes.

Coach springer
September 11, 2017 7:57 am

A useful retort: Unprecedented is such a plastic term.
This morning, I sat on the toilet in a place 1 10,000th of a millimeter from where I’ve EVER. SAT. BEFORE.

Frank Andrews
September 11, 2017 9:51 am

Depending on the metric you choose to use in ranking hurricanes, whether it is, max. wind speed, min. pressure, population affected, damage cost caused, economic impact, duration, rainfall amount, area affected, lives lost, etc., you will achieve a particular ranking. Often this choice is influenced by a desire to support some agenda or notion you harbor.

Joel Snider
September 11, 2017 10:10 am

‘facts are stubborn things’
The funny thing is, I live down the road from a local community college, and in my parking lot, there are all these bumper stickers (next to their Hillary or Bernie stickers), that say ‘facts matter.’
Irony.

CheshireRed
September 11, 2017 1:36 pm

Alarmists haven’t wasted a second getting these hurricane ‘crisis’s into court as ‘evidence’ against the suspect in chief, man-made climate change. They’re quite shameless in fitting up the defendant. Yet again hysteria presented as irrefutable proof. It’s complete b*ll*cks.

mila
September 12, 2017 1:35 pm

All you guys who are trying to write oh-so-sophisticated comments, do you actually ever go outside of your air-conditioned homes and cars ? Then you would see that nature is changing already a lot. For this you don’t have to be one of your so despised scientists: Flowers appear earlier in spring and harvesting starts earlier in automn. Abnormally warm winter days happen more and more often. In places where there used to be masses of snow in the winter like the German Alps (where I come from, that s why this is my local example), there is hardy anything left. Not to mention all the major global phenomena such as the melting of the North pole or the increase in flooding and draught worldwide.How can you ignore simple statistics showing that the 15 hottest years ever recorded were all after the year 2000? Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere creates the Greenhouse effect keeping warmth created by the sun. Why is it so difficult to fathom that adding extra carbon dioxide to the atmosphere will intensify this effect? Is it the fear that after all Mother Earth is not so strong as we wish her to be, and we might actually be capable of destroying her?

September 13, 2017 2:49 pm

And knowledgeable minds know better.