Climate scientist Josh Willis shows you how to deal with your climate change denying uncle – but fails

Guest essay by Dave Burton

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Josh Willis, of NASA JPL, has a new video out entitled, “Straw Men of the Apocalypse – How to deal with your climate change denying uncle.”

Notice that “catastrophic” is apparently not scary enough, these days. Global warming is now “the Apocalypse.”

The video starts out with two guys crawling along the parched ground under the blazing desert sun. One of them says to the other, “We’re gonna die out here, man. If only society had done more to fight climate change.” And it goes downhill from there.

There’s really nothing new in his video, nor in this article debunking it. So if you’re a “regular” at WUWT, and you’re hoping to learn something new, you needn’t bother reading the rest.

I counted eight claims in Josh Willis’s video. Let’s look at them, one by one:

Claim #1. “Record high global temperatures may have exacerbated our current situation.”

Wrong. “Global warming” mostly just warms higher latitudes. It makes harsh, cold climates milder. The warming effect at low latitudes is slight, and mostly increases nighttime lows, not daytime highs.

If those fellows are dying in the hot desert, they obviously are not at higher latitudes. Where they are, global warming is slight.

In fact, higher CO2 levels make plants more drought-resistant. So, thanks to anthropogenic CO2, deserts and near-deserts are shrinking and greening, most strikingly in the Sahel & Sahara. Even the severely politicized National Geographic admits that it is happening, though they don’t mention CO2:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/090731-green-sahara.html

Claim #2. “For the past 30 years the energy from the sun has decreased, but…”

Half true. Other than fluctuating up and down with the sunspot cycle, total solar irradiance has been very, very flat for the last 30 years. It has declined, but not noticeably until the last 15-20 years, and only slightly even then. A quick Google search finds many graphs; here’s one of them:

http://www.scisnack.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/tsi_model_obs.jpg

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Claim #3. “…but the Earth has continued to warm up.”

Half true. Until the just-ended El Niño, global warming had paused for about two decades. But we just had a very strong El Niño, and that pushed up the right-end of the linear fit, so that climate campaigners can now say that “the Earth has continued to warm up.” But it didn’t exactly “continue” warming, it just “blipped up” in 2015-2016, due to the El Niño.

Here’s a graph from a 2014 paper by Ben Santer (with many co-authors, including Gavin Schmidt):

http://sealevel.info/Santer_2014-02_fig2_graphC_1_100pct.png

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They sought to subtract out the effects of ENSO (El Niño / La Niña) and the Pinatubo (1991) & El Chichón (1982) volcanic aerosols, from measured (satellite) temperature data, to find the underlying temperature trends. The black line is averaged CMIP5 models, the blue & red are measured temperatures, with those adjustments:

Two things stand out:

A. The models run hot. The CMIP5 models (the black line) show a lot more warming than the satellites. The models show about 0.65°C warming over the 35-year period, and the satellites show only about half that. And,

B. The “pause” began around 1993. The measured warming is all in the first 14 years (1979-1993). Their graph (with corrections to compensate for both ENSO and volcanic forcings) shows no noticeable warming since then.

Note, too, that although the Santer graph still shows an average of almost 0.1°C/decade of warming, that’s partly because it starts in 1979. The late 1970s were the frigid end of an extended cooling period in the northern hemisphere. Here’s a graph of U.S. temperatures, from a 1999 Hansen/NASA paper:

http://www.sealevel.info/fig1x_1999_highres_fig6_from_paper4_27pct_1979circled.png

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The fact that when volcanic aerosols & ENSO are accounted for the models run hot by about a factor of two is evidence that the IPCC’s estimates of climate sensitivity are high by about a factor of two, and it suggests that about half the warming since the mid-1800s (used to tune the models) was natural, rather than anthropogenic.

That’s consistent with a TCR sensitivity of less than 1.0°C, which implies an ECS sensitivity of at most about 1.5°C, which most people would agree is nothing to worry about.

Claim #4. “The warming in the past century has been faster than at any time in the last several million years.”

That’s nonsense. That fallacy is a product of statistical illiteracy. Paleoclimate information, inferred from indirect evidence like marine sediments, is naturally “smoothed,” by processes which blend the evidence from consecutive decades, centuries, and millennia. As every engineer knows, when you smooth a graph, sharp fluctuations disappear. But the climate campaigners apparently don’t know that. They see a paleoclimate graph and say, “look, it took ten thousand years to change by 3°, that’s much slower than the 20th century!” But, of course, they have no way of knowing how many times it went up or down by 2° in a decade during that ten thousand years.

The evidence is very strong that there’s nothing unusual about the modest warming which the Earth has experienced over the last century. The current Modern Climate Optimum is very similar to the Medieval Warm Period and the Roman Climate Optimum, and probably cooler than most of the Eemian interglacial.

Claim #5. “With climate change threatening our way of life, your strawman argument could have apocalyptic consequences.”

That’s complete rubbish. Unless you define “way of life” as starvation, and “threatening it” as feeding people, anthropogenic climate change is not threatening anyone’s way of life. At least 15% of current agricultural production is directly due to the benefits of higher CO2 levels — probably more, actually.)

There’s no excuse for the climate activists to be ignorant of this. It is not new information. Almost all commercial greenhouses use CO2 supplementation to improve plant growth and health. This photo is from an article in Scientific American nearly a century ago! The potatoes on the left were grown with the benefit of exposure to CO2-laden exhaust gases from a blast furnace. The potatoes on the right were grown under normal conditions:

http://www.sealevel.info/CO2_fertilized_potatoes_1920.png

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The best evidence is that anthropogenic climate change is modest and benign, and anthropogenic CO2 is highly beneficial to both human agriculture and natural ecosystems. That’s why I and 31,486 other American scientists signed the Global Warming Petition, declaring that:

“There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”

Claim #6. “The continent of Antarctica is actually losing ice, and it’s happening faster every year, driving sea-levels higher around the world.”

That’s a flat-out lie.

In Antarctica, ice accumulation and loss are very, very close to being in perfect balance. Whether Antarctica is actually gaining or losing ice mass is unknown.

This 2015 NASA study reported that Antarctica is gaining 82 ±25 Gt of ice per year:

http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

Based on CryoSat, McMillan (2014) found Antarctica is losing 79 to 241 Gt/yr of ice, though that was based on only 3 years of data.

Based on GRACE, Shepherd (2012) concluded that Antarctica ice mass change since 1992 has averaged -71 +/- 83 Gt/yr, which means they couldn’t tell whether it’s actually gaining or losing ice mass.

Based on ICESat, Zwally (2012) found that Antarctica is gaining ice mass: +27 to +59 Gt/yr (averaged over five years), or +70 to +170 Gt/yr (averaged over 19 years).

The range from those various studies, with error bars, is from +170 Gt/yr to -241 Gt/yr, which is equivalent to just -0.47 to +0.67 mm/yr sea-level change.

That’s equivalent to less than 3 inches of sea-level change per century. In other words, although we don’t know whether Antarctica is gaining or losing ice, we do know the rate, either way, is so tiny that it’s currently having a negligible effect on sea-level and on Antarctica’s total ice sheet mass.

What’s more, sea-level is not rising “faster every year.” Sea-level rise is extremely linear. There’s been no significant, sustained, sea-level acceleration for over eight decades, anywhere in the world.

For example, Honolulu has an excellent long measurement record, with very little vertical land movement, and a typical trend:

http://www.sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=Honolulu

http://sealevel.info/1612340_Honolulu_vs_CO2_annot1.png

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Some places saw a slight sea-level rise acceleration in the late 1800s or early 1900s, but no acceleration since the 1920s. When CO2 rose above 310 ppmv, sea-level rise acceleration ceased.

Claim #7. “The bad impacts of global warming far outweigh the good ones.”

That’s the opposite of the truth. The “bad impacts” of anthropogenic CO2 emissions are all theoretical — I could say imaginary. None of them are actually detectable. The good impacts, such as gains in agricultural output, and greening of arid regions, are huge, and well-documented.

Claim #8. “There’s 97% scientific consensus.”

Most readers here know that’s nonsense. (Refs: http://tinyurl.com/clim97pct )

The “97% scientific consensus” meme comes originally from an article by Dr. Peter Doran, based on a survey which he had his graduate student, Maggie Zimmerman, send to over 10,000 geophysical scientists. They got 3,146 responses. (BTW, I bought Ms. Zimmerman’s thesis project report, so if anyone has any questions about it, do not hesitate to ask. My contact info is here: http://sealevel.info/contact.html )

It was a blatant scam. Doran didn’t just put his thumb on the scale, he drove his SUV up onto the scale, and parked it there.

First, Doran picked just two questions for their survey, both of which were “gimmies,” designed to elicit the answers he wanted, rather than to actually learn anything about scientists’ opinions. Both of those questions were so uncontroversial that even most climate change skeptics & “lukewarmers” would give the “right” answers.

Then Doran had his graduate student survey only people working in academia or government, known bastions of political liberalism. Geophysical scientists working in private industry, who tend to be more conservative, were not surveyed.

Then, after getting 3,146 responses back, for the purpose of calculating his “consensus” Doran excluded all but the most specialized specialists in climate science. (That’s like asking only homeopaths about the efficacy of homeopathy, rather than asking the broader medical community, or like asking only people working on “cold fusion” whether cold fusion works, rather than asking all physicists.)

That eliminated over 97% of the respondents.

But even that apparently didn’t get his “consensus” figure high enough. So to calculate his final “97.4%” result, Doran excluded respondents who gave a “skeptical” answer to the first of the two questions.

I’m not kidding, he really did.

The first question was:

“1. When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”

Those who answered “remained relatively constant” were not asked the 2nd question, and were not counted when calculating Doran’s “97.4%” consensus figure.

That’s one of the reasons that, of 3,146 responses, only 77 were used for the “97.4%” calculation.

The second question was:

“2. Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”

Well, of course it is! That encompasses both GHG-driven warming and particulate/aerosol-driven cooling. It could also be understood to include Urban Heat Island (UHI) effects.

Since just about everyone acknowledges at least one of those effects, I would have expected nearly everyone to answer “yes” to this question. Yet 2 of 77 apparently did not.

It is unfortunate that Doran didn’t have his graduate student ask an actual question about Anthropogenic Global Warming. They should have asked something like, “Do you believe that emissions of CO2 from human activities, such as burning fossil fuels, are causing dangerous increases in global average temperatures?” or (paraphrasing President Obama) “Do you believe that climate change is real, man-made and dangerous?”

Of course, the reason he didn’t use “real” questions like that is that his purpose wasn’t to discover anything. It was to support a propaganda talking point.

That it was successful is demonstrated by the fact that people like Josh Willis continue to use that ridiculous talking point.


Dave Burton – www.sealevel.info

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Mike the Morlock
May 21, 2017 9:09 pm

Hmm, looks to me as just another pair of snow bird tourists out for a hike in Papago park in Phoenix AZ.
Dress accordingly and make sure your keys and wallet are easily accessible for the locals
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/phoenix-warns-hikers-to-prepare-for-heat-after-recent-tragedies-7554143
michael

Don Graham
May 21, 2017 10:32 pm

From my point of view, global warming and climate change will not be as apocalyptic as what Claude Levi-Strauss called “The Poisoning of the Planet,” the long term consequences of our pollutants contaminating our food resources.
Of the 90,000 manmade chemicals floating about in our biosphere, which are more likely to kill off the “little people,” the critters at the bottom of our various food chains?
Which ones are already in our children’s lungs, livers, lymph nodes and future of all they’ll consume?
Global population overshoot and collapse from starvation caused by our pollutants poisoning our planet’s food resources was originally expected sometime after 2030. That research, when updated in 2012, expected O&C to begin no later than 2024. I suspect that when Fukushima’s fallout is added, it might be a tad earlier.
Unless you have an exceptionally powerful mustard seed’s worth of faith, which no one has ever demonstrated, will be the only way to survive and thrive once the collapse of all life forms on this planet begins “for real.” Sorry about that.

Reply to  Don Graham
May 22, 2017 11:37 am

I think you must be quite young, Don. I have good news for you, which should come as a great relief to you. We’ve already done the experiment, and we’ve seem the result: the “critters” (and people) withstood and mostly even thrived with far more pollution in the developed world’s air and water half a century ago than there is today.
Here’s a song from fifty years ago, which conveys, with slight exaggeration, the state of the environment when that “experiment” was being performed:

May 22, 2017 12:02 am

“It was a blatant scam. Doran didn’t just put his thumb on the scale, he drove his SUV up onto the scale, and parked it there.”
Are you accusing him of fraud and or scientific malpractice?
that’s actionable.
Blog owner??

richardscourtney
Reply to  Steven Mosher
May 22, 2017 5:01 am

Steven Mosher:
I was clearly one or the other.
Which do you think it was; fraud and or scientific malpractice?
Richard

Reply to  richardscourtney
May 22, 2017 11:39 am

richardscourtney: fraud or scientific malpractice? Both unless you are suggesting that they really didn’t know how to carry out a scientific analysis. By careful selection they found 75 who met their criteria. This was out of 10,000 surveys (0.75%) or 3146 respondents (2.4%). Any representation that 97% of all climate scientists is clearly malpractice and very likely fraudulent. Propagation of exceptionally poor research (at best) as facts is nothing but fraud, especially when anyone who reads the methodology should be able to recognize the poor (at best) science.

Sheri
Reply to  Steven Mosher
May 22, 2017 8:19 am

Actionable is pretty much meaningless when the judges in this country ignore ACTIONS and go by INTENT, which they psychically devine in their chambers. Since psychically devining intent is legal, lying and misrepresentation cannot actually exist. Only intent. Again, actionalbe is MEANINGLESS.
(Nice try, though. Still following the Troll Manual almost to the letter.)

Sheri
Reply to  Sheri
May 22, 2017 8:20 am

(Apparently my keyboard is also trying to devine what I am intending to type.)

Bob boder
Reply to  Steven Mosher
May 22, 2017 8:22 am

It’s actionable yes, but since it’s true a counter action is also possible, want to take bets that the action will or won’t be taken? Slander is only slander when it’s a lie, but you already know that Steven so you already know no action will be taken in the first place so I am pretty that means I’ll get no Action out of you, but I am here if you want to bet.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
May 22, 2017 11:42 am

Steven Mosher, I also described the details of Prof. Doran’s misbehavior. If you think that description was in any way inaccurate, please tell us about it. Please quote my supposed error, and rebut it.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
May 24, 2017 1:03 am

Steven Mosher, I’m waiting. You accused me of “actionable” defamation.
Defamation implies falsehood. What falsehood do you accuse me of?
If you really think my description of what Prof. Doran did was in any way inaccurate, please quote the supposed inaccuracy, and correct it.
I spelled out in very specific detail exactly what Prof. Doran did wrong. Please do me the same courtesy. You’ve made an accusation, so please tell me exactly what you think was inaccurate about what I wrote.
BTW, I don’t have your email address, but I sent you messages on Facebook, on March 2 and March 15, about a different matter, yet received no response. Did you receive those messages?

Reply to  Steven Mosher
May 30, 2017 3:14 am

Steve Mosher, again I ask: What falsehood do you accuse me of? If you really think my description of what Prof. Doran did was in any way inaccurate, please identify that inaccuracy.
Since I’ve received no reply either here or on Facebook, I did some google searching this morning, and managed to find a couple of email addresses for you: one at gmail, and one at berkeleyearth. I’ve emailed you at both addresses, calling your attention to my replies here. Neither email bounced, so I trust the addresses are correct. Please reply.

phaedo
May 22, 2017 12:05 am

The acting is as bad as the science.

May 22, 2017 12:32 am

Josh Willis, NASA JPL, seems to believe correcting my thoughts by scaring my loved ones would increase my compliance. Well, he’s mistaken. It has an opposite effect. My next tax declaration is on an anthropogenic-CO2 free journey:comment image

CheshireRed
May 22, 2017 1:05 am

What gets me is the Pause and all the other evidence against catastrophe is actually GREAT news. *If* man made climate change really is such a huge potential threat then why would anyone be unhappy at discovering official satellite evidence that suggests previous estimates of climate sensitivity are wrong and therefore that catastrophe is potentially being averted?
You wouldn’t demonise your oncologist for a cancer-free diagnosis, so why do people react with such fury when offered good news against AGW theory?
The answer is because they’ve all nailed their reputations and careers to this flagpole and the very last thing they want is to be wrong. Career, income, status, influence, reputation, investment, future ambition, legacy….all gone just like that. So the crisis must be maintained at all costs. Incredible.

Old England
May 22, 2017 1:10 am

I don’t like the use of the term “Present Climate Optimum” as used alongside Medievil Warm Period (MWP) and Roman Climate Optimum.
I don’t like it because it suggests, without any evaluation or evidence, that current temperatures are the optimum for the environment and mankind, and I don’t believe that they are. Slightly warmer would be of huge benefit with little change at the tropics but a huge increase in growing range across the northern hemisphere. It would significantly increase the rate of plant, tree and crop growth and decrease the size of deserts through the very beneficial increase in CO2 levels from ocean outgassing of CO2.

May 22, 2017 1:20 am

Here’s some more Josh Willis You Tube

Reply to  Steve Case
May 22, 2017 1:50 am

Josh Willis’ version of man-made global warming may become a classic similarly to Bill Clinton about Miss Lewinsky.
Particularly from 54s onwards where he states something like “global warming, the human caused climate change, that’s definitively going right on, up in there” while unable to control his dénialist body movements. Where exactly is it going up JoshW?

Reply to  jaakkokateenkorva
May 22, 2017 4:36 pm

Yes, what he says starting at 0:53 is clearly wrong: “…global warming, human-caused climate change? That’s definitely going right on up in there. We haven’t slowed down at all.”
Other than the big El Nino spike, how can this not look like a slowdown since late 1990s or early 2000s, to anyone?
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/crutem4vgl/from:1979/offset:1.0/plot/rss-land/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1979/offset:0.5

May 22, 2017 1:32 am

https://www.google.at/search?q=swiss+fighting+climate+change&oq=swiss+fighting+climate+change&aqs=chrome.
As usual, the Swiss are the last in the convoy. But the first ones to sign.
!! Computer graphics are definitely too late !!

May 22, 2017 1:39 am

“Climate Science” marches to Washington.
While real science formulates expert opinion.
Not so British – but very German.

1saveenergy
May 22, 2017 1:43 am

Global warming is now “The Apocalypse.” Comes complete with 97% more fear factor
Over the last 50ish years, we’ve seen great deal of re-packaging & re-branding from one side of the climate debate as they constantly re-market their ideas.
Forget about –
‘Ice Age Coming’; not cold enough.
‘Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming’; seems it’s not terrifying enough, (or hot enough).
‘Weather Weirding’; but the data showed no such thing.
‘Climate Change’; not changing enough.
So after years of research (in the dictionary), they’ve managed to both cut the packaging by 50% & add 97% more fear factor –
The new brand of Global warming is now “The Apocalypse.”
Short, Snappy, Scary, Backed up by 100s of Hollywood ‘B Movies’, Sounds Biblical….what’s not to like.

Sheri
Reply to  1saveenergy
May 22, 2017 8:24 am

They still don’t have people standing on corners with signs “THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING”. It’s not official until there are people everywhere holding signs that say the world is ending (not just during marches). I look forward to the arrival thereof so I know it’s a genuine apocalypse.

May 22, 2017 3:21 am

Leftists are such liars…
All of the “apocalyptic” predictions and statements John Willis made were complete lies.
John Willis knows everything he said was complete bull crap, but he’s also aware that loony Leftists will blindly believe whatever authorative figures tell them to believe about CAGW, so there is no need to make accurate and truthful statements; any lie will do.
Hopefully, CAGW grant hounds will be held accountable for their blatant lies, but I’m not very optimistic…
We’ll see soon enough.

May 22, 2017 4:15 am

Let’s presume for a moment the carbon-based life-form impersonating a cowboy in the clip actually has a point:
There seems to be mutual understanding about the needless nature of releasing countless tons of CO2 into the outside air by talking about this at all. Not limited to UN numerous junkets over decades I might add, culminating into a non-binding guideline of a sort. Climate science has been settled by consensus. Public funds have been diverted to some enterprises. Food, wood and rubbish is burned for energy. Prices have inflated. Hungry poor in Middle-East sought refuge in theocracy. What else has been achieved with billions, if not trillions of taxpayers money spent?
Has ideal climate been defined? No. The ideal average global outside air temperature? No. Ocean level? No. Average ocean pH? No. Glacier extent? No. Storm frequency? No. Did JoshW clarify any of these points? No.
For this reason in my opinion, JoshW advocates his own personal political views only. And no civil servant is not paid for that and, far worse, for behaving like a kapo. Whichever instance nominated him, can also re-assign him. A closer contact with real life might be the best – right up there in the open job market.

Reply to  jaakkokateenkorva
May 22, 2017 5:21 am

The propaganda campaign is working.
So far, more than $1 trillion has been diverted to paying salaries and inefficent energy sources.
Why would they stop now.

Reply to  Bill Illis
May 22, 2017 6:01 am

Good question. Perhaps once they finance the climate perfecting project from the taxes collected from Al Gore, Barak Obama, Leonardo diCaprio, Mike Mann, Jose Bergoglio and their ilk.
I’ll turn into a victim on a beach under the sun, collecting social justice from this wealth, until the climate is perfect. Currently obviously it isn’t. I need at least a parasol and a cool drink.

Bruce Cobb
May 22, 2017 4:39 am

Funny how Josh Willis, after describing what a straw man argument is goes on to use them himself. Perhaps he was just illustrating further what a straw man argument is. Thanks, Josh Willis! Oh, and then he helpfully explains what cognitive dissonance is, the very affliction he and his clan are so afflicted with, since reality isn’t going along with their climatist ideology, and they have to keep making up more, and more convoluted lies to support it!
You really couldn’t make this stuff up.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
May 22, 2017 11:50 am

Great point, Bruce Cobb! I noticed that, and forgot to mention it — sorry!
Instead of addressing the (devastating) criticisms, by climate skeptics, of the supposed 97% consensus, Josh Willis very absurdly he had his “skeptic” character admitting the 97% consensus and wondering, “what about the other three percent?” That’s about as blatant an example of straw-man argumentation as I’ve ever seen, anywhere.

May 22, 2017 6:22 am

I’m not a seeing the “strawman”. Seem like just regular arguments. Weird that he went so far as to create a scary name for arguments that aren’t even strawman and certainky not the apocalypse.

1saveenergy
Reply to  rgbact
May 22, 2017 9:22 am

I’m not a seeing the “strawman”.
Here you are –
http://www.starburstmagazine.com/images/200913/worzel-gummidge-review.jpg

Sheri
May 22, 2017 8:25 am

Two FULLY clothed, not-starving males crawling across the desert screams out terror-attack or crazy persons run amok, NOT climate change. If whoever designed this is hoping to scare people………It screams out “I know NOTHING”, not “be afraid”.

May 22, 2017 9:57 am

Why has Ocean Acidification been skipped?
This is the one thing I think climate deniers never speak about.
Even of the warmig isn’t a problem, why would you want to turn our oceans​ into veritable dead zones?
[??? .mod]

Hugs
Reply to  deraek
May 22, 2017 11:08 am

I’m sorry but humanity is incapable of turning seas acidic. Ask your favourite oceanist should you not believe.
Everything apocalyptists have is some bad scifi. AAGW is just another doomsdayism religion from greenpeasy doomsters.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  deraek
May 24, 2017 6:08 am

Ocean pH (Estimate) 8.1. Rain water, actual and varies, but usually 6-7. So more acid than the ocean.

May 22, 2017 10:02 am

I think it’s kind of comforting to know that even with no water and civilization dying you can still get a ridiculous haircut.

Hugs
Reply to  harkin1
May 22, 2017 11:18 am

Lollerz. They pictured so good-looking starvers. As if they’d never seen poverty in action … wait, maybe they actually are of the better fragment of people who don’t know about real hardships?

Chris
May 22, 2017 10:45 am

Whenever someone tries to convince me of global warming, the first thing I ask about is the Greenland farms that are still underneath the snow in the summer. One guy tried to dismiss them as an “experiment” by the Vikings. As if 400 years of continuously occupied farms was entirely an experiment by people with nothing else to do with their time.

Hugs
Reply to  Chris
May 22, 2017 11:15 am

Inconvenient truth that Vikings failed there. They say it was local. Funny that, sounds so much flat-out deni-al. But who I am to complain, I didn’t find a tree at Yamal.

May 22, 2017 11:57 am

Okay, I just watched the video, and that’s the most stupid, badly acted video that I think I have ever seen.
First, those dessert-crawling dudes where waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too clean, well groomed, and good humored to be seriously suffering from the prolonged effects of dessert heat.
Second, the cowboy climatologist needs a fashion makeover to, at least, dress up his myopic lies a bit better.
Now, I wish somebody would do a video in favor of skepticism, using The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly; sound effects and mannerisms.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
May 22, 2017 11:58 am

Crap !, … stupid code typo.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
May 22, 2017 12:55 pm

Keeping on the stupid theme, I don’t think Mr. cowboy climatologist in the video understands what a straw man is, even though he spells out the definition. His whole video is the straw man, since he sets up a situation that he is calling “straw man” so that he can argue against it and prevail.
He creates the idea of a straw man where a straw man is NOT.
All he seems to be doing is presenting counter arguments against one of the well-groomed, good-humored, heat-exhausted bad actors.
A straw man is NOT just an argument that you find flawed, … NOT just a point on which you disagree or have opposing evidence. A straw man, for example, would be the 97% consensus, introduced as the basis for dismissing a 3% non-consensus that does not exist, because the 97% does NOT exist.
Argument: If only 3% of climate scientists believe that humans are not causing global climate change, then this 3% are unfit authorities on what threatens human beings.
This is a straw man. The 3% is bogus, based on shoddy research that fails to represent anything real or established. Using this shoddy argument to argue against someone questioning the evidence is using an imaginary being (the straw man) — an argument made of straw, instead of an argument made of real facts.
It’s not a real argument. It’s thrown up as a real argument to be convincing, or to scare (in this case, like a scare crow) … because, because, because, because … because of the wonderful things he does.
Oh, I know, that part of the tune applies to the Wizard, but it works so well that I couldn’t resist using it here too.

Ian
May 22, 2017 2:57 pm

Hmmm, Cherry picking the fruits of science. But the foul recipe is poison.

AP
May 22, 2017 3:05 pm

That photo is a bit heteronormative!

Reply to  AP
May 22, 2017 3:50 pm

If “male” and “female” are social constructs, then wouldn’t “heteronormative” also be ?
If we deem all human sensations as “social constructs”, then this allows us to deconstruct them. This was the basis of deconstructionist art, I believe. Nothing is a given. Nothing is a standard. It’s all arbitrary. It’s all bias. We can break it all the hell down and make it into anything we want.
Thus, we have deconstructionist science (i.e., consensus climatology).

michael hart
Reply to  AP
May 24, 2017 3:50 pm

AP May 22, 2017 at 3:05 pm
That photo is a bit heteronormative!

And, if, as the article also quotes “those fellows are dying in the hot desert”, then I know which one would receive the kiss of life first when I arrived on the scene…

michael hart
Reply to  michael hart
May 24, 2017 4:02 pm

Strewth. I just watched the video, and neither one is a sheila!

May 23, 2017 4:52 am

A little logic.
We know how the mass of the Earth, as well as the atmospheric layer. What is the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere? What is the temperature of the space through which Earth moves along the ellipse? Are you on the path cools or heats the Earth? If all the CO2 content was converted into energy by fission of the same, whether to and how to raise the tempertature tread? Calculate and you will see that it is a great stupidity to blame CO2 that he is the one who leads the planet in danger from rising temperatures.
Another observation: the sun, its heat radiation can affect the overheating of the planet.
The main cause of climate change:
This is due to the mutual effects of the planets and the sun, or the factors that science does not know.
Gentlemen, painfully little for themselves and try to connect the logic.
Stakeholder and challenger of all changes in the behavior of matter and energy in relation to the ether, which fills the infinite universe is magnetism.
Magnetism is the cause of climate change on all celestial bodies, not only on Earth.
As this takes place, if you do not know, I’ll one day to bring more.
We see this as the beginning of change in the wrong direction of movement and the development of science.

Reply to  milmnik
May 26, 2017 6:00 pm

milmnik asked a series of questions:
Q: “What is the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere?”
A: 0.0405% by volume, 0.0614% by mass.
Q: ” What is the temperature of the space through which Earth moves along the ellipse? Are you on the path cools or heats the Earth?”
A: A vacuum has no temperature. The space through which Earth moves is not quite a perfect vacuum, but it is darn close. It is close enough that the temperature of the few molecules has negligible effect on the Earth’s temperature. Space does not cool or heat the Earth.
Q: “If all the CO2 content was converted into energy by fission of the same, whether to and how to raise the tempertature tread?”
A: Fortunately, the 3261 gigatonnes of CO2 in the atmosphere cannot be “converted into energy by fission.”
That’s a lot of CO2. For comparison, the bomb which destroyed Hiroshima contained less than 1 kg of uranium-235. 3261 Gt = 3,261,000,000,000,000 kg.
Numbers that large are hard to grasp. Maybe this will help. If all the CO2 in the Earth’s atmosphere were magically transmuted into U-235, and made into atomic bombs with the explosive power of the Hiroshima “Little Boy” bomb, there would be 447 atomic bombs for each man, woman & child on planet Earth.
milmnik also wrote, “Magnetism is the cause of climate change on all celestial bodies, not only on Earth.”
No, it isn’t.

May 26, 2017 5:34 pm

Here’s a 2002 NAS report which is relevant to Josh Willis’s nonsense claim #4, that “The warming in the past century has been faster than at any time in the last several million years.”
http://dels.nas.edu/Report/Abrupt-Climate-Change-Inevitable-Surprises/10136
Here’s an excerpt from the “cover web page”…

The climate record for the past 100,000 years clearly indicates that the climate system has undergone periodic–and often extreme–shifts, sometimes in as little as a decade or less. The causes of abrupt climate changes have not been clearly established, but the triggering of events is likely to be the result of multiple natural processes. … Abrupt climate changes in the last few thousand years generally have been less severe and affected smaller areas than some of the changes further back in the past.

Of course, things like ice cores don’t go back “several million years,” but the past 100,000 years is a subset of “the last several million years,” so the NAS report obviously contradicts Josh Willis’s claim.
The full report is paywalled, but they have a 4-page “report in brief” PDF online for free, here:
http://dels.nas.edu/resources/static-assets/materials-based-on-reports/reports-in-brief/abrupt_climate_change_final.pdf
Here’s an excerpt:

…tree rings show the frequency of droughts, sediments reveal the number and type of organisms present, and gas bubbles trapped in ice cores indicate past atmospheric conditions. With such techniques, researchers have discovered repeated instances of large and abrupt climate changes over the last 100,000 years during the slide into and climb out of the most recent ice age—local warmings as great as 28°F (16°C) occurred repeatedly, sometimes in the mere span of a decade.

Compare that with Josh Willis’s claim that the last century’s warming (about 1°C, if you believe the latest upwardly adjusted numbers) was “faster than at any time in the last several million years.”