Saturday's "climate march" in Washington turns into another wrongheaded farce that has little to do with climate

The “peoples climate march” in Washington is turning into another zoo like last weekend’s “March for Science”. Even full-on warmists are panning it, and it hasn’t even started yet. Looking at the lineup, it’s easy to see why:

To me, it looks like a socialist parade with a dose of gender anger thrown in.

Some comments from the “warm” side of the debate:

Of course, not everyone sees the farce…for example, there’s Peter Gleick, the man without a filter, or appreciation of the first amendment:

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April 28, 2017 10:31 am

“Lake Wobegon, where all the children are above average”—I think of that every time we get the “52 years of above average” statements by alleged scientific types.

Reply to  Sheri
April 28, 2017 10:58 am

I can’t think about Lake Wobegon without also thinking about the Young Lutheran’s Guide to the Orchestra. I was a tuba player in high school. I do change my own oil. I’m usually around when my buddies get their annual deer or moose. Garrison Keillor is a genius.
Do the alarmists even admit that we’ve been climbing out of the Little Ice Age (LIA) for the last couple of hundred years? Of course it’s warming up.

Rhoda R
Reply to  commieBob
April 28, 2017 11:04 am

The warmists don’t even admit there was a LIA.

GREG in Houston
Reply to  commieBob
April 28, 2017 1:02 pm

Keillor is my favorite democrat. But it’s a low bar.

Reply to  commieBob
April 28, 2017 2:46 pm

GREG in Houston April 28, 2017 at 1:02 pm
Not quite a monitor destroying moment. Not quite!
But much appreciated.
Even on this side of the Pond, we appreciate Garrison Keillor.
Or I do, at least.

Nick Werner
Reply to  Sheri
April 28, 2017 11:27 am

When communicating climate science to the public, objectivity is becoming a very rare and exciting event. People just won’t know what an average is.

Reply to  Nick Werner
April 28, 2017 5:02 pm

Nick , I always wonder if alarmists know the direction adding a value below average to a set of data moves that average when they claim that some exceptional cold is evidence of warming without pointing out the even more exceptional concomitant warmth somewhere else to actually raise the average .

Uncle Gus
Reply to  Sheri
April 29, 2017 4:38 am

I do wish this page had a “Like” button!

Reply to  Uncle Gus
April 29, 2017 5:12 pm

Uncle Gus … It does.
After the article, before the comments. It’s called ‘Votes’ and you choose to click on 1-5 stars.

Reply to  Uncle Gus
April 29, 2017 5:15 pm

Uncle Gus … Oops. I guess you meant you wanted to like a comment, not the article. Nevermind!

Reply to  Uncle Gus
April 29, 2017 5:34 pm

It was tried. Didn’t work out well.

george e. smith
Reply to  Sheri
April 29, 2017 6:57 pm

So what day in what year was it average ??

April 28, 2017 10:34 am

I hope it snows on their parade – lol

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  frozenohio
April 28, 2017 11:13 am

There is a cold front pushing through Virginia with a moderate amount of moisture behind it, we had flurries in Michigan this a.m., we can only hope that Algore shows up, that would seal the deal

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
April 28, 2017 2:26 pm

Wyoming is getting snow, but it is springtime, so this is normal.
Al Gore really would seal the “freeze up” deal, wouldn’t he?!

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
April 28, 2017 5:12 pm

Ah , spring time . Just saw the first humming bird the other day & put up the feeder . We’re getting the first of an expected 10 – 24 cm of snow now .
May 2013 :

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
April 28, 2017 7:58 pm

“Wyoming is getting snow, but it is springtime, so this is normal.”
How can people live in an awful climate like that and still claim that any warming at all would be a disaster?
It is incomprehensible.

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
April 28, 2017 10:46 pm

Yep – we had snow earlier on Friday – reminds me of 2013, too. Some places received upwards of a foot. We received 7 1/2″ of heavy wet snow

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
April 29, 2017 3:55 am

Rotten snow?

george e. smith
Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
April 29, 2017 7:03 pm

Nothing in Wyoming is average !
G & g

Reply to  frozenohio
April 28, 2017 10:47 pm

I must confess the thought ran through my mind as well. Al is supposed to be there – 🙂

April 28, 2017 10:40 am

One can tell really what the march is about by whom or what is NOT represented. It’s the ‘peoples’ march but they really go out of their way to define peoples by all sorts of definitions and demographic and one that is missing completely.

Reply to  Duncan
April 28, 2017 10:58 am

..can you imagine the double standard if a bunch of conservatives threatened to riot, attack, burn that thing down?
well, yes you can………….

Reply to  Latitude
April 28, 2017 11:41 am

Nah, they won’t see the irony that protesting for ‘equality’ of the ‘people’ by pigeonholing everyone into categories is by its very nature ‘exclusive’. Riot and Burning are for persons who are angry but don’t know who to be angry at. Although they do know they are angry at everyone else but themselves. I can, but they cannot……

Reply to  Latitude
April 29, 2017 5:35 pm

..can you imagine the double standard if a bunch of conservatives threatened to riot, attack, burn that thing down?

Why, yes … yes, I can. I participated in Tea Party rallies and townhall meetings in 2009-2010. The names we were called were obscene and disgusting. The least insulting was ‘angry.’ And we didn’t riot, attack, or burn down anything … we just rallied on street corners for a couple hours, cleaned up any litter, then we peacefully went home. For this, we were called teagbaggers, racists, astroturf, and a lot of other things. Later we organized, got involved, and started winning elections. Of course, they still accuse us of racism … and every other kind of bigotry they can invent.
I call them ugly and insane.

george e. smith
Reply to  Latitude
April 29, 2017 7:16 pm

A recent street poll I saw on the news recently (72 hrs) had reporters at US campuses asking students for their opinions of controversial acts by President Trump.
Universally the respondents were angry at him, and didn’t like any of those things.
All of the things that the students were mad about Trump doing, were actually well reported NEWS items on things that were actually done and reported during the eight years of the Obama administration, and done by President Obama; NOT Donald Trump.
These people are so out of it, that they didn’t even recognize they were being asked about things that President Obama famously did, but which the ‘reporters’ attributed to recent act by President Trump.

george e. smith
Reply to  Latitude
April 29, 2017 7:30 pm

An example of things students were mad at Trump for doing:
Goiing around the world and bowing and apologizing to foreign potentates for US actions.
How could they not know it was Obama who got crooked at the waist ??
This site has become unreadable because of interminably slow scrolling.

Leo Smith
April 28, 2017 10:46 am

It’s just marching season for LeftyCnuts. Command the climate to stand still…
A chance to pick up chicks, get high, have a bit of violence and excitement and shimmy that virtue signalling thing.
Let’s face it, where these people come from is one big walled garden mumsnet. This is as close as they will ever get to Real LIfe™

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 28, 2017 10:54 am

yep…and excuse for them to have a street party…..and it’s always the same people
…everyone else is numb to it by now

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Leo Smith
April 28, 2017 11:36 am

A chance to pick up chicks, get high, have a bit of violence and excitement and shimmy that virtue signalling thing

YUP, ……. they want to experience their own little …….. Woodstock 69’.comment image

Reply to  Leo Smith
April 28, 2017 2:40 pm

“It’s just marching season for LeftyCnuts.”
It’s more than that, I think. Leftist/Socialist billioniares are putting lots of money into organizing the angry ones on the Left. They are funding the training of thousands of Leftist activistis/anarchists so they can go out and disrupt American society. This is not a “groundswell of the people”, it is a fake groundswell bought and paid for by anti-Americans.

April 28, 2017 10:49 am

Justice“, “Democracy“, “Truth” etc.
Lot’s of words they don’t comprehend …
… or is it just the outcome of their language revisionism ???

Leonard Lane
Reply to  SasjaL
April 28, 2017 4:21 pm

Right SasjaL, it is unnerving to hear Peter Gleick pontificate and speak of virtue, right, etc. when he is a second story man electronically breaking into another persons’ computer and stealing/corrupting their data. Like most people in prison, or those that should be, he also lied about his break in and is “innocent”; although he certainly knows what he is and it is far from innocent.

Harry Passfield
April 28, 2017 10:51 am

“52 years straight of above average [temps]”: Incoherent; illogical; illiterate; innumerate; impostor; idiot; insignificant. And that’s just Gleick.

Reply to  Harry Passfield
April 28, 2017 1:25 pm

I think I found a picture of Gleick ….comment image

Reply to  markstoval
April 28, 2017 3:02 pm

The butane lighter is putting out CO2, that’s why the thermometer is going up.

April 28, 2017 10:52 am

How many flights and trips in SUV’s were there to ferry them to this totally pointless fiasco?

April 28, 2017 10:52 am

Hmmm, I didn’t see one word about Liberty or Freedom…

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 28, 2017 11:30 am

Their freedom to do whatever they want.
Your freedom to support them whether you want to or not.

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 29, 2017 1:29 am

“Freedom is so precious it must be rationed”.
V. I Lenin

April 28, 2017 10:54 am

Pure collectivism. Greater than a century of real failure and with acceptance of passion over reason ( Nihilism) their only strategy is rhetoric.

Tom Halla
April 28, 2017 10:58 am

Hillary Clinton and the Democrats have the problem that the March for Science was a fair representation of their supporters. It looks like the only fringe group that did not show up in costume was Antifa in black and balaclavas.

April 28, 2017 11:01 am

HaHaHaHa……..that graphic is funny. They included LGBT but didn’t bother with the mentally and physically disabled.
And like “Keepers of faith” has anything whatsoever to do with climate change, other than CAGW is a religion unto itself. Perhaps that’s what they mean. Or is it that they believe in creationism?
What a lot of wrinkly old, low hanging, lobbox.

michael hart
April 28, 2017 11:02 am

Now I know why Bill Nye signed up for the ~37 genders by choice before lunch thing: He wants to make sure that he can always wangle an invite to the latest march in town.

Reply to  michael hart
April 29, 2017 3:48 pm

Bill’s just keeping his options open. He strikes me as a person who doesn’t get laid very often.

Reply to  Bartleby
April 29, 2017 5:50 pm

Bartleby … that was crude and uncalled for. I thoroughly disapprove!
Having said that, if you watched him ‘dancing’ in that weird sex video (for lack of a better description), you’d see why he doesn’t.
Awkward and undignified, at the very least.

Reply to  Bartleby
April 29, 2017 7:17 pm

Geezer: I respect your opinion even though I disagree with it. Thank you for presenting the opposing position. Seriously.
I disagree with your position, and that’s the nature of debate. I am convinced young Dr. Nye is an opportunist and doesn’t get laid as often as he’d like. I believe he could be a self serving authoritarian. He makes me nervous.
Best Regards,

Reply to  Bartleby
April 29, 2017 7:23 pm

Bartleby … please reread the rest of my comment. Guess I should have added a /sarc tag.

Reply to  teapartygeezer
April 30, 2017 3:11 pm

Sorry. I out-sarc’d you. There should be a term for it. Maybe “sarc-upmanship”.

Reply to  Bartleby
April 30, 2017 3:32 pm

Bartleby … how in the world did you manage to “Like” my comment????
2 minutes before I rec’d the email with your latest reply, I got another email w/subject of …
“[Watts Up With That?] Bartleby liked your comment on “Saturday’s Climate March …”
Are you the only person in the world who knows how to “Like” comments on WUWT? Or are you a magician? Not that I don’t appreciate a nice “Like” now and then, but … how in the world????
Yes, we seem to be struggling to communicate our /sarc!

Reply to  teapartygeezer
April 30, 2017 6:46 pm

Geezer: I use the announcement icon to read any replies to messages I write, it’s the “bell” on the top right of the screen on my display. I need to be logged into WordPress to see it.
Using the menu you can reply easily and also “like” a comment.

Reply to  Bartleby
April 30, 2017 6:55 pm

Bartleby … very cool! Thanks.
Your 1st “Like” sent me an email … the 2nd one didn’t. WUWT?

Reply to  teapartygeezer
May 4, 2017 1:28 am

Now you’re taking me into realms of WordPress I’ve neve before explored. All I can suggest is “it seems to have worked” 🙂

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  michael hart
April 29, 2017 5:59 pm

I like Mark Steyn’s group term:

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
April 29, 2017 7:31 pm

Pretty much anyone who’d like to be defined by someone else?
Whatever you don’t like? I’m one of those so you’d just better be careful about calling me a queer or a nigger. Off base. Do that and you lose.
Of course, the truly weird part is they intentionally self-identify as queers or niggers, then drag you over the coals for accepting the self-designation. Right out of the playbook.

April 28, 2017 11:02 am

Anarchists. It started in the 60’s, had some time off, now it’s on the upswing again. Socialist/Marxist are organizing and bankrolling the attack on Democracy and freedom. Idly sitting back and allowing it to continue won’t fix anything. We need to mobilize in our own right. Trump is proof we can do it.

April 28, 2017 11:08 am

Check out the narcissistic grandiosity neurosis:
“Protectors of Justice”
“Makers of Sanctuary”
“Builders of Democracy”
“Guardians of the Future”
“Defenders of Truth”
“Keepers of Faith”
“Reshapers of Power”
I think they missed, “Wasters of Sucker Taxpayer Dollars”.

Reply to  PiperPaul
April 28, 2017 2:52 pm

I saw some people with a lot of time on their hands on tv a couple of days ago, and they were operating a safe space called a “Tent of Empathy” at some event. Their slogan was something like: “Come in. We listen.”
That must be really comforting to some people. Mainly the people operating the tent, I think.

Reply to  TA
April 29, 2017 4:19 pm

A science fiction author who should be well known but isn’t named John Brunner wrote about a service he envisioned in our post-truth society that he named Hearing Aid. Same idea.

Reply to  Bartleby
May 2, 2017 4:50 am

My Junior year English teacher was John Brunner. No, not the author. He hated the author for having the same name (you know how literature teachers can get snooty), so yes, I am familiar with John Brunner. Not a bad writer (I read him just to spite my teacher).

Reply to  philjourdan
May 4, 2017 1:32 am

As well you should. It’s always important to consider the words and opinions of the people who denigrate you. It’s honestly the only way to discover the flaws in their logic and also, in your own.
Fair play is what I like to think of it as. It’s a civic duty to be the “loyal, royal, opposition”. Without us, civilization as we know it would fail. A heavy burden, but one we were all born to.

Reply to  TA
April 30, 2017 5:45 am

“John Brunner”
I remember him. There were so many good science fiction authors way back when. Just at the time space/future scenario visionaries were required for our progress, I guess. Talk about expanding your mind! It was wonderful! Nowadays, real science is just as exciting as reading a science fiction story as a kid was, and the real science is coming fast and furious, which is also wonderful. 🙂

Reply to  PiperPaul
April 28, 2017 3:46 pm

Guardians of the Galaxy.
Wait, that’s taken.

Doug M
Reply to  PiperPaul
April 28, 2017 8:11 pm

“Delusions of Grandeur”

Reply to  Doug M
May 1, 2017 5:36 am


Reply to  PiperPaul
April 29, 2017 12:02 am

Shouldn’t women be offended by being pigeonholed as “makers/creators of sanctuary”? Is the would-be dictatorship of the proletariat really saying that women’s main purpose and role is nurturing and homemaking?
Bunch of sexists clearly want to throw us back in the kitchen, barefoot. Not pregnant though. Babies are bad for the environment.
This woman will be mowing her lawn Saturday morning. Using her Craftsman riding mower, increasing plant food. Better use of my time, and I will actually be doing something useful and beneficial. My neighbors and local vegetation will be appreciative.

Reply to  AllyKat
April 29, 2017 4:22 pm

Aly writes: “This woman will be mowing her lawn Saturday morning.”
Jim Mills wrote a song about you. Check out:

Reply to  PiperPaul
April 29, 2017 8:25 am

Looks like a mass Ivy League graduation party.

Caligula Jones
April 28, 2017 11:11 am

“52 years of above average” = tenths of a degree difference from an artificially chosen 30 year average…
Good Gaia, my public school math teacher 40 years ago warned us about averages and how NOT to use them.

Reply to  Caligula Jones
April 28, 2017 2:29 pm

I think that’s forbidden today, based on the massive misuse of averages.

Reply to  Caligula Jones
April 28, 2017 3:17 pm

“52 years of above average”
That would put his start point at about 1965. Let’s see, what was going on in 1965, climate science-wise? Well, as I recall there was a big panic about human-caused Global Cooling (CAGC) around that time until things started warming up at the end of the 1970’s.
A claim of 52 years of above average temperatures doesn’t square with the panicked climate scientists of 52 years ago. The temperatures were going down, not up. That’s why they were panicking.
And of course, it turned out all their panic turned into nothing. No ice age. New York wasn’t covered in ice. No snowball Earth.
Now, some of the same charlatans that claimed humans were causing the Earth to cool and wanted money and power to fix it back in the 1960’s-70’s, have spun around 180 degrees and are pushing the CAGW narrative after the temperatures started rising in the late 1970’s.
I followed the progress of the human-caused Global Cooling narrative from the beginning, and the climate scientists who were promoting this idea were absolutely convinced they were correct and that we really were heading into a new Ice Age, and humans were exaserbating the situation. Well, as it turned out, they were wrong.
Now, the CAGW promoters are just as adamant that humans are causing the Earth’s atmosphere to warm up to catastrophic levels and they are just as certain of their position as were the scientists promoting Global Cooling.
But being certain doesn’t make one correct.
It didn’t in the case of Global Cooling and it’s looking bad for the Global Warming promoters. Twenty years and no warming, while CO2 levels climbed.
Living through the CAGC scare made me skeptical of climate science claims, and now that we are in the CAGW scare era, I am doubly skeptical. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Reply to  TA
April 28, 2017 4:15 pm

52 years above WHAT AVERAGE? What exactly IS the average temperature of Earth, and not JUST between 1960 and 1990??? Has anyone ever figured out the “average” temperature of this planet for the past 4.5 billion years? I mean if Mickey Mann can “reconstruct” temperatures back thousands of years…and we can somehow “know” with some reliability what the temperatures were in past eons….let’s figure it out.
So…according to this chart, for roughly 600 MILLION years (with only ONE brief drop about 300 million years ago that lasted roughly 100 MILLION years) until 3.5 million years ago, the AVERAGE temperature of Earth was between +2 and +14 degrees Celsius HIGHER than the 1960-1990 baseline. After the 3.5 million mark, it bounced around like a rubber ball in Mann’s head for
hundreds of thousands of years, before almost completely STABILIZING 10,000 years ago for the first and only (so far) time in it’s entire history…which bizarrely coincides with human development and the so called destruction of the planet by them. And WOW….between 17,000 years ago, and 10,000 years ago, the temperature “SKYROCKETED” up at least 10 C…in just 7,000 years!! And yet here we are.
So…(I’m too lazy to do the actual math) it looks like over the history of this chart, the “average” temperature of Earth is somewhere around +5 and +9 C HIGHER than it is now?? Anyone done the math?
Maybe someone needs to point all this out to Mr. Gleick….

Leonard Lane
Reply to  TA
April 28, 2017 4:29 pm

Don’t forget DDT, ozone hole, new ice age, nuclear winter, Alar, global warming which morphed to climate change which is always warming. Boy, the Marxist liberal arts majors sure know a lot about everything including climate.

Reply to  TA
April 29, 2017 11:55 am

I see someone has tried to downplay the Global Cooling era on Wikipedia, pretending it was not mainstream science at one time.
“Global cooling was a conjecture during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth’s surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensive glaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community [liar!], but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s [the “slight” downtrend was equal in magnitude to the uptrend from 1978] and press reports that did not accurately reflect the full scope of the scientific climate literature, [trying to downplay all the coverage given to Global Cooling by the popular science press. Where do you suppose they got those notions?] which showed a larger and faster-growing body of literature projecting future warming due to greenhouse gas emissions.[1] The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but underwent global warming throughout the 20th century.” [No, it did not. The temperatures rose from 1910 to 1940, then fell from 1940 to 1978, then rose again. The temperature rise from 1910 to 1940 is of the same magnitude as the temperature rise from 1978 to the present. 1934 is the hottest year on record in the U.S., not 2016. The U.S. temperature record is the best proxy we have for global temperatures. Thank you very much.]
end excerpt
I just hate the thought that those seeking real information have to wade through all these CAGW propagandists and their half-truths and lies.

Reply to  TA
May 1, 2017 11:32 am

At the time, global cooling had as much support among the wider scientific community as global warming does today.

Reply to  TA
May 1, 2017 11:33 am

I remember a story of one you lady during the big alar scare.
She called the poison control hotline to find out if it was safe to pour apple juice down the drain.

Reply to  Caligula Jones
April 29, 2017 4:27 pm

As well they should. It’s completely wrong to apply the law of large numbers to Average Global Temperature. Basic measurement theory. Too screwed up to even debate. Fundamentally wrong.
Bad scientist. No doughnut.

Reply to  Caligula Jones
April 29, 2017 6:55 pm

“Child with a child pretending
Weary of lies you are sending home
So you sign all the papers in the family name
You’re sad and you’re sorry but you’re not ashamed
Little green have a happy ending”

— Joni Mitchel, “Little Green”
The poem leaves us with a sense of abandonment I believe was the author’s intent.

April 28, 2017 11:13 am

In an earlier age, Peter Gleik would have been prosecuting Galileo.

Reply to  Richard
April 28, 2017 11:25 am

In the current age, he becomes a leader of the left – they only promote failures and crooks.

April 28, 2017 11:14 am

Who would trust a tea leaf such as Gleick?
Only a rainbow coalition of minority causes with the word climate tagged on

Gaetan Jobin
April 28, 2017 11:30 am

The Washington Times writes that George Soros gave $36M to groups behind People’s Climate March.

Reply to  Gaetan Jobin
April 28, 2017 12:27 pm

So these are a bunch of Soros Losers.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Richmond
April 28, 2017 1:29 pm


Reply to  Richmond
April 28, 2017 3:24 pm

The President of Hungary said Soros has ruined the lives of millions of Europeans.
Soros is not only trying to ruin the lives of Europeans, he is working to undermine every western nation in existence.
The man is a menace. And he has a lot of like-minded, rich people helping him.

Rob Dawg
April 28, 2017 11:51 am

There are more women than men on the planet so of course global climate change is going to disproportionately affect females.

Tom Judd
Reply to  Rob Dawg
April 28, 2017 12:06 pm

No, no, no. Climate change is going to disproportionately affect …
… children!

Reply to  Tom Judd
April 28, 2017 12:35 pm

Climate change is going to disproportionately affect… taxpayers!

Reply to  Tom Judd
April 28, 2017 2:30 pm

Climate change is going to disproportionately affect ____________________ (fill in the desired group).

Reply to  Tom Judd
April 29, 2017 12:09 am

Ah, children. We are supposed to take all these actions “for the children!!!”, yet those same children are increasing the population, which kills Gaia…
…so we should hate them. And not have any. Unless we are elitists “on the right side of history”. And feel really sad about having children. Because they are bad. Feeling bad makes it okay. Climate indulgences, now available for purchase.

Mike Maguire
April 28, 2017 12:09 pm

Peter Gleick,
You have received some impressive awards over the past 2 decades and there are many issues that I agree with you on but you are out of line to tell me to STFU. Since 1982, I’ve been an operational meteorologist analyzing global weather. My observations are that life on this greening planet over the past 4 decades has enjoyed the best weather/climate and CO2 levels in at least the past 1,000 years.
Possibly even longer than that as evidence shows this to be even better than the Medieval Warm Period in some respects because of the higher atmospheric CO2 level now……..but let’s stick with a the indisputable fact.
No theories. No speculation. No models(though I use many models in my business). No guessing or funding based on what I might find to make that statement.
In fact, I get paid on the reality of being right about how the actual world is responding to our weather/climate(crops/energy use)……….it’s what I do.
You have a right to your opinions. As an environmentalist, I like some of them a great deal. However, you are being silly to tell a person who reports their objective observations from analyzing global weather…….and its effects on humans and crops from over 3 decades, to STFU.

Reply to  Mike Maguire
April 28, 2017 12:22 pm

Time for Peter Gleick to STFU. Fraudulent a-hole with zero integrity.
Gleick, you screwed up big time , thinking you were way smarter than you really were. If the case for AGW was so clear you would not have needed to stoop to wire frawd, falsifying documents to make libellous claims against others.
Peter Gleick , STFU. NOW, permanently.

The Original Mike M
Reply to  Mike Maguire
April 28, 2017 12:54 pm

“My observations are that life on this greening planet over the past 4 decades has enjoyed the best weather/climate and CO2 levels in at least the past 1,000 years.”
Yeah, why is no one talking about that!? Have you seen this study pointing out that CO2 uptake has doubled in 50 years? That’s fantastic news! Maybe burning fossil fuels is what is really saving the planet….

Reply to  The Original Mike M
April 28, 2017 5:38 pm

The evolution of life on earth uses and is dependant on the terrestrial carbon cycle, and the values of CO2 and H2O in the atmosphere are fundamental to life. The biosphere has operated as a carbon sink for much of earths history, such that the atmosphere is seriously depleted in CO2 compared to historical levels.
The fundamental purpose of the evolution of human intelligence is to reverse this trend and remove CO2 from the lithosphere, where residence times are measured in millennia. 
Unlike the H2O cycle which has short residence times the long residence time of carbon in the lithosphere has had a cooling effect which lead to the last glaciation.
Humans have evolved to burn fuel and recycle the atmospheric greenhouse and return climate norms to Miocene levels.

April 28, 2017 12:12 pm

March For Pseudoscience and Watermelon Environmentalism
When I saw that the “March for Science” was going to honor Bill Nye “The Sex Junk” Guy (Warning: you can not unsee this video) and Michael “Climate Bully” Mann, I knew this was nothing more than another phony sanctimonious narcissistic liberal lovefest designed to promote the corruption and politicization of science. To test my hypothesis that no honest self-respecting scientist would ever attend such an event I went searching for the list of speakers at this “March for Science,” and sure enough, not a single Nobel Prize in Science winner could be found. Michael “The Inquisition” Mann claims to have a Nobel Prize, but that is a Nobel PEACE Prize given to the IPCC, not a Nobel Prize in Science for work actually done in Science.

John Bell
April 28, 2017 12:26 pm

How horrified they would be if they really got what they want, no phone no lights no motor car not a single luxury, as primitive as can be.

Reply to  John Bell
April 28, 2017 1:24 pm

They only want that for other people. Not themselves.

Reply to  John Bell
April 28, 2017 2:31 pm

That could be arranged……

Reply to  John Bell
April 28, 2017 2:52 pm

Reminds me of Weird Al Yankovic´s Amish Paradise.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  John Bell
April 28, 2017 4:41 pm

John Bell, don’t forget…a 3 hour tour…

Reply to  Leonard Lane
May 1, 2017 1:48 pm

The Minnow’s “3 hour tour” turned into a 3 year run, but the Enterprises’ “5 year mission” only lasted 3 years. Maybe if the skipper had been the captain, the 5 year mission would have lasted longer.

Reply to  John Bell
April 29, 2017 12:12 am

Those idiot kids in Oregon would not be letting their parents use them to sue the government if they understood what they would NOT have if the judge keeps ignoring real law and making up his/her own.

April 28, 2017 12:37 pm

Friggin Communists.

The Original Mike M
Reply to  SMC
April 28, 2017 12:46 pm

Or “useful idiots” as Lenin would describe them.

Tom Judd
April 28, 2017 12:38 pm

Call me a deranged conspiracy theorist all you want (although it’s probably true) I can’t help but get suspicious about all these marches, and protests, and faux rioting, and confrontations, and other shenanigans that have acquired a level occurrence unprecedented in my lifetime.
A lot of that costs money. Who’s now, and only now, paying for all of it? And, why?
Normally, when an entity transfers huge amounts of money, and it’s done secretly, we reasonably concede that something’s not on the up and up. So, what is it about gobs of straight cash (no checks, no i.o.u.’s, no wire transfers) flying out of the U.S., not all that long ago, and over to Switzerland (of all places), and exchanged (laundered?) for – literally – pallet loads of equivalent sums of direct currency, loaded onto planes – without tail markings – and bound for … Iran? And, it was only by coincidence that we found out about it last year, but the extraordinarily innocent explanations (just kidding) proffered by the Obama administration for this payment raised nary an eyebrow amongst our relentlessly investigative (just kidding) media.
And, now we have a new President who just might tell us about what had gone on.
Gotta keep him occupied and distracted. Just sayin’

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Tom Judd
April 28, 2017 4:45 pm

Tom Judd. The same people who paid for Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, and all the travel expenses, signs, living expenses, etc.

The Original Mike M
April 28, 2017 12:44 pm

The climate movement is powered by a seemingly endless stream of gullible people.

Reply to  The Original Mike M
April 28, 2017 2:32 pm

Gullible people are an endless stream. We never run out of them.

Rick C PE
Reply to  The Original Mike M
April 28, 2017 3:36 pm

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
— George Carlin

Bruce Cobb
April 28, 2017 12:54 pm

In the interests of truth in advertising, I thought I’d help them out with the following tweaks to their slogans:
Protectors of Climate Ideology
Makers of Safe Spaces
Builders of Socialism and Marxism
Guardians of the Greenie Gravy Train
Defenders of Lies
Keepers of the Climate Faith
Grabbers of Power
Many Climate Drones, One Mind
They’re welcome.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 29, 2017 7:07 am


April 28, 2017 1:03 pm

Ever see Gary Larson’s ‘imbeciles of America’.

April 28, 2017 1:04 pm

STFU ….. I never knew the climate consensus argument could be effectively summarized in just 4 letters.

April 28, 2017 1:10 pm

Rules for Climate Change Radicals; The Price of a Successful Attack is a Constructive Alternative
The upcoming “People’s Climate Movement/March” is a classic example of this tactic, and they even highlight it in their title. After the climate movement’s disastrous defeat in the last election, they have recouped and formed their “constructive alternative.” From the People’s Climate Movement website it states “presenting an alternative to Trump’s disastrous agenda.”

April 28, 2017 1:11 pm

Why lefty has to be heavy on sexual proclivity no matter the subject or context has always escaped me. I must not be “enlightened “.

The Badger
Reply to  Logoswrench
April 28, 2017 4:09 pm

Logoswrench: You have it the wrong way round. If you like a lot of (various flavour?) sex it’s generally useful to join a like minded group of people. It’s the life choices agenda the young ones buy into first, the politics gets layered on top later.

April 28, 2017 1:12 pm

So many questions for the organizers of this event:
Why are you segregating/categorizing people? Are we not ONE?
Why are the scientists in 5th place, and the climate activists and environmentalists in last place at a “climate march”?
If you are a “woman” who is also a parent, a scientist, and who is anti-corporate and works for the government….which group do you march with?
I notice “men” are not constrained to any one category of your march like women are. Why are you being sexist? And apparently “Latinos” have to stay together as well. Why are you racists?
What about people who only “identify” as one of the groups….will they be allowed to march where they are comfortable?
Is the group that includes “peace” the only group that will be peaceful?
Will the climate activists and “more” be cleaning up the march route as they move along? You know….protecting the environment ?
Didn’t all of you people just march last week? Were you paid to stay in town a full week and have bookend rallies or did the Union bus drivers just refuse to round trip you all in one weekend so you had to stay?
Will you be earth friendly and recycling the posters and signs from last weeks march or will you be wasting resources and making new ones?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Aphan
April 28, 2017 1:30 pm

Aphan, they don’t see color, but they celebrate it.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
April 28, 2017 2:05 pm

They don’t mention any colors, but exclude “latinos” from “immigrants” for some reason, they only invited 6 of the 51-63 possible (supposedly) gender/sexual identities (straight and non-sexual people are not among those represented) and while they “stand with those who are pillars of our democratic institutions” they loathe the President, his cabinet members, most legislative representatives, and everyone who used their voting rights in a democratic way to elect someone they disagree with. And how are all the “anti corporate, anti fossil fuel” attendees going to get there without the help of corporations and fossil fuels? Even if they WALK there, if they are wearing shoes, clothing, eating purchased food and drinking bottled water, they have supported major corporations and fossil fuels.
The irony is so thick they should have to “swim” through the air to march.

Reply to  Aphan
April 28, 2017 2:19 pm

It’s a safe bet that the group with “peace” in their name, will be the least peaceful group out there.

Reply to  MarkW
April 29, 2017 12:18 am

Any group that calls itself “The People’s [fill in the blank]” almost always neither represents “the people” nor works in their interest. Quite the opposite. Such groups usually HATE people.

J Mac
April 28, 2017 1:21 pm

I never really understood the term ‘mass psychosis’…. until now.

Reply to  J Mac
April 28, 2017 1:49 pm

Experimental psychologists like Cook and Lewandowsky specialize in creating it.

April 28, 2017 1:23 pm

I cannot tell from their website exactly who the primary organizers and financiers are. There are a lot of Identity groups – the usual suspects, no surprises in that list. And there are multiple organizational groups. But much like last weekend’s march, it’s not an easy task to follow the money.

Another Doug
April 28, 2017 1:32 pm

We all have a resposibility to ensure that every person has right to live peacefully and safely.

However, we accept no resposibility whatsoever for proper spelling or grammar in our marketing materials.

CD in Wisconsin
April 28, 2017 1:33 pm

I don’t think that the leaders of this march were specific enough when they named it. Needs to be more politically and ideologically explicit……
To wit: The People’s Glorious Proletarian Socialist-Marxist-Leninist Revolutionary Eco-Utopian Death To Fossil Fuels……..Climate March.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 28, 2017 2:19 pm

Out of curiosity, I looked at the march’s website. Their schedule of events is listed there, and I found this interesting item at the end of it……
“5:00pm Head Home for Ongoing Action
We will wrap up our day together and head back to our local communities, preparing to take action on May 1st in solidarity with workers and immigrants across the country……”
May 1st is observed as a labor holiday by numerous ideological groups including Communists and Socialists if I am not mistaken, correct? I don’t think the march’s ideological bent could get much clearer than that.

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 29, 2017 12:21 am

As I understand it, May 1 is usually a day when a lot of destruction is committed by those ideological groups. Particularly in Europe. (Correct me if I am wrong.)
I prefer the dancing around the maypole tradition. I would also prefer that the marchers a) not come to the D.C. area in the first place and b) if they are local, go somewhere else at 5 pm.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 28, 2017 4:51 pm

CD, in your list don’t forget useful idiot appendage of the Democrat Party.

April 28, 2017 2:17 pm

Marvel Comics will be disappointed. A perfect opportunity to add a film crew and take in some early scenes for Avengers Infinity Wars, except that the organisers forgot to arrange a slot for our favourite panalopy of superheroes.

Reply to  Pauly
April 28, 2017 2:58 pm

“panoply” (sic)

Dave in Canmore
April 28, 2017 3:11 pm

I notice the defenders of truth are positioned right next to the defenders of faith! Oh the irony.
LMAO can’t make this stuff up!

Roger Knights
April 28, 2017 3:47 pm

Reason magazine describes and disses tomorrow’s climate march as hijacked by leftists:

April 28, 2017 4:39 pm

There could very well be a nuclear event in the very near future…and these assclowns are out protesting what George Soros tells them to. Amazing.

Reply to  Duckhomie
April 29, 2017 1:44 am

The irony of Left-wing organizations knowingly taking money from a billionaire currency speculator like Soros is astounding.

April 28, 2017 4:40 pm

Other than “Equal Justice”, – Climate Justice, Social Justice, Environmental Justice, and any other word in front of “Justice” equals “NO Justice”…

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
April 29, 2017 12:23 am

Good addition! Activist judges definitely impede justice.

old construction worker
April 28, 2017 5:40 pm

10 to 1 the protesters were bought and paid for.

April 28, 2017 5:47 pm

Has any credible scientific organization ever stated and proven that humans
have now been put in charge and are capable of setting the earth’s thermostat ?
The so called “record ” temperature nonsense is just BS propaganda and a mann made up computer model farce of manipulated data by scary warmy promoters .
Does any one believe humans are going to regulate the earth’s thermostat through a downward adjustment of a trace gas who’s abundance ensures a greening earth ? Who would be on a committee of global temperature setters …
Al Gore ?
STFU is the new scientific method stated by people who have run out of ammo .
Can crying on the sidewalk and stamping feet be far off ?

Reply to  Amber
April 28, 2017 7:05 pm

I think the 1930s were hotter than today. That’s just my BS meter going off before this global warming stuff all started…

April 28, 2017 7:57 pm

Bill Nye “Is Not The Right” Guy Would Prefer an Ice Age Over the Current Warming
The Nation Magazine didn’t even grasp that if what Bill Nye said is true, CO2 is the greatest gift man has ever been given. Forget New York flooding in 10,000 years due to global warming, New York would be covered in ice after just a few years of an ice age. Societies collapse and die during ice ages, they thrive during warming periods. Liberals are so blinded by their ideology they don’t even understand how insane their positions are. Possible death 10,000 years in the future due to warming, or certain death during an ice age. Bill Nye makes is sound like the certainty of death and misery during an ice age is preferable to continued warmth.

Jaakko Kateenkorva
April 28, 2017 10:16 pm

Peter Gleick. Who among the 7 billion people on this planet you are telling to STFU and how you are planning to execute your order?

April 28, 2017 11:33 pm

On the bright side, DC Comics has enough convincing candidates to play scientist Hector Hammond in the next Green Lantern movie.

April 29, 2017 4:23 am

Political “Scientist” Michael Mann Prefers Censorship, Slander and Punitive Action Over Debate
“It should trouble everyone in the scientific community that the primary response of its leading voices when they encounter a voice they don’t like is to try to get that person fired from their job. That it doesn’t trouble anyone very much says something,” wrote Roger Pielke, Jr. in a blog post this month.

Reply to  co2islife
April 30, 2017 5:40 am

Yes, if you don’t want the opposing view to have a voice, you squash it flat.
There can be Only One!!!!!

Uncle Gus
April 29, 2017 4:48 am

Of course, what’s happening is that climate activism is gradually losing all connection with the actual climate, and simply becoming an umbrella for left-liberal activism. (Not a good thing, either for left-wing politics or for the sciences.)
Not surprising – if temperatures stay put or drop the next few years, “The Science” (as opposed to the science, which is quite healthy, thank you, and may yet have some surprises for us) is going to become entirely unsupportable.

April 30, 2017 5:39 am

Seriously, climate whatever isn’t about science. It’s about religion. They could [put] Mann or that jackass Nye on a donkey – or just put Mann on the jackass Nye – and follow him into The City waving palm branches and singing ‘he’s going to save us from Warming!’
This Spring in my kingdom is just as cold (40s, occasional 50s, 30s at night) and wet (rain, lots of it, last year it was snow) as it was last year and the 3 years before that. Looks like there’s snow in Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Kansas, sometimes mixed with rain. Good for the croplands, not so good for cities that aren’t prepared to deal with the runoff , and they are NOT prepared. It’s weather, not climate change.
Meantime, I think I’ll make a nice big pot of bean soup with ham and some cornbread and enjoy a good book.

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