Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
In my prior post on this subject, Palestinian Climate Change, I reported that I was overjoyed that the UNFCCC, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, had admitted Palestine as a full member.
At the time I said:
I also recall from a few years ago that when Palestine was admitted to UNESCO, the US had to cut off funds to UNESCO because of US law. As an article at the time said, this was the result of “US laws that force an automatic funding cutoff for any UN agency with Palestine as a member” …
Do I see an opportunity for our lawmakers here? Yep. Will they act on it? Possibly not, but if it is indeed the law, seems like they could be forced to act …
Best to all, and I do hope some organization with money and legal resources takes up this question. At least the US could stop pouring money down a rathole, even if the rest of the world continued the lunacy.
Of course, the Obama Administration paid no attention to the law … but times have changed. From the New York Times today:
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing executive orders that would clear the way to drastically reduce the United States’ role in the United Nations and other international organizations, as well as begin a process to review and potentially abrogate certain forms of multilateral treaties.
The first of the two draft orders, titled “Auditing and Reducing U.S. Funding of International Organizations” and obtained by The New York Times, calls for terminating funding for any United Nations agency or other international body that meets any one of several criteria.
Those criteria include organizations that give full membership to the Palestinian Authority or Palestine Liberation Organization …
YOWZA! Get the US out of the UNFCCC, stop wasting money.
Further along in the article I find:
The draft order also calls for terminating funding for any organization that “is controlled or substantially influenced by any state that sponsors terrorism” or is blamed for the persecution of marginalized groups or any other systematic violation of human rights.
The order calls for then enacting “at least a 40 percent overall decrease” in remaining United States funding toward international organizations.
Gotta start somewhere, and that’s a good start …
I can feel my workshop calling, and it’s a lovely sunny day. Don’t want to get NDD, I’m out of here, best of life to all,
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My comment has been in moderation for several hours. Are there moderators on duty? As my comment seemed pretty innocuous.
Well no actually, it wasn’t. Ever since Michael Mann decided to start suing people for hurtful words, we have to filter more explicitly. You post had some of those words in it. I get the final say on whether they get approved or not and I can’t be on the blog 24/7.
Thanks for explaining that. I wish there was a list of those words, but I guess you kind of get a feel for it from experience.
The largely leftist media in the USA never investigates the UN or any of its’ agencies in favor of repeating UN propaganda. 90% of the UN’s many budgets are simply squandered by the cronies that run it. They literally spend $billions on writing reports that recommend “solutions” that A) giving bureaucrats (them) more power and B) raising taxes to give bureaucrats more money to spend. Any “good” that they do is just a Potemkin photo-op to grab more money and power.
Carrot and Stick diplomacy.
Nothing like losing $$$ to bring about change. Maybe our Pals will engage in meaningful peace talks with Israel.
Probably not.
When given everything they wanted in past negotiations, the PLO pulled out of “peace talks” because they knew the US wouldn’t accept their genocide of Israel, which was their primary objective. What they require of Israel but applied to themselves might be the only solution.
Only fools poke at Israel, they hit back 10 times as hard.
The real reason that the UN is in New Year is that if aliens or a supervillain appears then they go straight for them and the US or anyone else will ultimately say we don’t really care at all that you annihilated them. We’d have to pretend for awhile certainly don’t want those superbaddies to continue after going at the UN.
Entertaining video about President Trump’s alleged anti-semitism. His grandchildren are Jewish!
The USA is now a poor debetor nation. We have to do what ever it takes of start getting out of debt. Not spending money where we really do not have to seems to be a good idea.
Hey, did you know that the UN keeps offices in Jerusalem for the pre – ’67 task force in charge of “Keeping the Ceasefire in Jerusalem”?
Damp and foggy here in England; cold too; grey, damp mist and fog all over the place but it’s a lovely day thanks to Willis’s article. The head man hasn’t even gotten his feet under the desk yet and he is already “turning the tide”.
A wonderful day, so it is !
Speaking as an Australian I’d like to see a very limited scope United Civilised Democratic Nations and ditch the totalitarian gangsters and mediaeval theocracies leaving them to their own devices. That way we could likely have freer borders and movement, investment and trade within those nations and strong borders and barriers against the outsiders. Those nations or states not quite qualifying at present but wanting to join the club could be probationary members with no voting rights until they come up to pace. I envision a very minimalist club of self interested parties that retain their own sovereignty and mutual respect. We need to take the broom to the UN now in much the same way Trump is doing in the US. The current UN is way past its use by date.
The Alt.Reality Left is confusing dawn for dusk. Which is not really surprising as they have been far too intoxicated for far too long on their own bs.
I do not understand how people I otherwise greatly respect for their rationality can dismiss the hard won wisdom of the very first clause of the First Amendment of our bill of rights and defend the avowedly segregationist supremacist religious tribalism of zionisim and its state , imposed on the region as one of the first act of global governance by the UN , suppression and military occupation of the indigenous population for our entire lifetimes .
I believe everyone is equally “chosen” , and violation of that principle causes endless blood baths .
See http://www.cosy.com/Liberty/FirstClause.htm .
Bob,
I am interested in how you can define a group of people as indigenous when their claim to an area is based on the facts that they siezed it by violent force and converted the people by the sword. By your definition, one could infer that the Spanish and the Portuguese are the indigenous people of South America.
Brooks
If they were born there , they are indigenous .
To claim someone born in Russia or Germany or the USA has “rights of return” is ludicrous . By the same logic I have rights of return to Liddesdale in border Scotland .
The ill logic and immorality of zionism is recognized by even the UN which imposed the cancer , so profoundly against the founding principles of the USA in the first place .
Bob,
By your definition, all the Jews that were born in what is now called Israel, are in fact indigenous and have a claim to that land. And by the same logic, it would be wrong to allow the current Palestinians to return to that land since most of them alive today were not born there.
The land belongs to whoever can hold it. This is the only accepted rule of international politics.
The Arabs lost the land in several wars they instigated.
Boo Hoo – there is a Bible of the same name.
You reveal your jungle morality . At least you are an honest zionist supremacist .
Nowhere else in the world is the military occupation of a population , many of which were driven into exile by the religious zealots , continued with occasional “grass mowing” of thousands from the air with USA subsidized 21st century weapons , given a moral pass .
Some of the individual I most respect , outside of a number here in the battle to restore honest science , are Jews of conscience such as Gilad Atzmon , Philip Weiss , Josh Ruebner and Norman Finkelstein .
No Bob, that’s how it works. If you trace back anybody’s ancestors far enough you will find they came from someplace else. We are all, in fact, “occupiers”. It has nothing to do with morals and everything to do with practicality.
I suppose while we’re at it we need to force the ‘white man’ to give America back to the natives and go back to Europe. Have I mentioned I’m 1/8 Miami? Or maybe 1/16, we’re not really sure if great grandma was really a full-blood or not. Regardless, I’m sure it’s enough to justify me staying.
But seriously, people have been fighting over that patch of the middle east since before Abraham. Trying to claim this or that group is its ‘indigenous’ people is just plain silly. Especially when you’re basing it on less then a century of history. You really want to give Israel back to its native people? Find some Canaanites. ~¿~
Grow up Bob and understand where the founding fathers were coming from-
http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
They were all inheritors of the Hellenic Judeo Christian tradition and assumed the nation would always be so and no particular branch or sect would be able to lord it over another via the imprimatur of the State. These were people who knew the history of the Inquisition and Protestant Reformation and wanted to ensure their new nation was free of that. Indian tribal beliefs weren’t even on their radar let alone Zionism or Islam. You know, those words on the Greenback- In God we Trust
Did you read my 2002
BEFORE
THE FIRST SEMICOLON ? You are echoing the analysis I cite from Justice Story.
The moslems are also a branch of the monotheistic Abrahamic mythology .
But that’s irrelevant I , and anybody with their eyes open sees a system of apartheid with continual ethnic cleansing and land theft — not to mention the continual degradation and occasional outright slaughter by the thousands of the , particularly in the case of Gaza , captive populations .
See also my CoSy comments at | 2051 | on http://cosy.com/y01/d0911.htm .
For the record , I describe my own religion as math and physics older than I am .
The “Climate” in Washington sure is changing!!
” The draft order also calls for terminating funding for any organization that “is controlled or substantially influenced by any state that sponsors terrorism” or is blamed for the persecution of marginalized groups or any other systematic violation of human rights.”
This also describes Israeli state to a T funnily enough W
It’s a well known historical fact the Israeli intelligence created HAMAS to spit support for Fatah. Divide and conquer. That was crucial in splitting Palestine in two.
I find Americans in general thanks to the media and lobby groups know little truth of what is happening with Israel and Palestine because questioning it is “antisemitic” in the US and makes you a Nazi. lol
Photographs from orbit show the Sinai Peninsula is mostly desert yellow, with an unnatural, sharply defined, strip of agricultural green in the north east.
That sharp line is the political border between Egypt and Israel’s territory along Gaza.
Suppose we really wanted to sequester carbon dioxide. I mean, really really wanted to. Suppose we wanted to make pasture land of desert, and see grass and shrubs and wildflowers grab up carbon and water vapor, and make the dirt beautiful. Suppose we really wanted a greener world.
What if the UN assigned control — perhaps on decades long lease — to the entire Peninsula to Israel, on the condition that it be made to “bloom”? Move the border, and green the (small section of ) the planet.
Could Egypt be persuade to lease both Israel and “Palestine” territory in the Sinai, and set them to a productive race, competition, or war to determine which can make more acres “greener”? Winner gets the Gaza, some decades hence?
Is there another experiment in carbon capture that has as much demonstrated support as the green strip along Gaza?
Is there any way to make any desert anwhere bloom WITHOUT a lot of carbon dioxide available in the atmosphere? That is, doesn’t every new blade of grass in every desert everywhere depend on some fossilized grass or tree or green-thing being exumed and burnt and returned to the eco-system?
Gotta start somewhere, and that’s a good start …
I can feel my workshop calling, and it’s a lovely sunny day.
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If I was a rich man. …
I’d go skiing at Schladming / Planai.
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Don’t let me be misunderstood:
I’m a born Schladminger – I just can’t compete with Saudi or US dollars.
I find it hysterically interesting that I see that “historically Palestine is a region,” or any other comment that suggest that Palestine isn’t a nation. Has it ever occurred to you folks that in 1948 the UN CREATED two entities in the middle east, one was called Israel and the other was called Palestine? That both entities were created from the same area, with Israel declaring itself a nation, not being actually created as such? That, in fact, Palestine has the same rights that Israel has since they were formed at the same time? I like the idea of the fore fathers – no entangling alliances, just friendly trading with all nations. Too bad we don’t live by that, and dump ALL entangling alliances, including those in the middle east.