The Next Eco-Scare Story?

AI search term interest - red is "deep learning", blue is "artificial intelligence". Source Google
AI search term interest – red is “deep learning”, blue is “artificial intelligence”. Source Google

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Now that Trump is President, what will replace the dying climate crisis narrative?

The replacement scare has to be a comparatively new field, with vast knowledge gaps which can be filled with wild speculation disguised as expert opinion. It must plausibly threaten the lives and security of ordinary people – to attract research funding. The exaggerated risks must have the potential to engage public imagination. The new scare must be radically different from previous scares – otherwise people will see it as recycled CO2 hype (think the methane scare). And the new scare must have the support of popular culture – Hollywood must get on board, to help spread the fear.

There is a crisis narrative which ticks all these boxes – the rising threat of uncontrolled artificial intelligence.

Hollywood is already well on board with the AI crisis. The following is a list of Hollywood films since year 2000 related to artificial intelligence (original source Wikipedia);

Year Count Movies
2001 1 A.I. Artificial Intelligence
2002 1 S1M0NE
2003 3 The Matrix Reloaded, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, The Matrix Revolutions
2004 1 I, Robot
2005 1 The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
2007 1 Transformers
2008 3 Eagle Eye, Iron Man, WALL-E
2009 3 Terminator Salvation, Moon, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
2011 2 Real Steel, Transformers: Dark of the Moon
2012 3 Prometheus, Robot & Frank, Total Recall
2013 4 Her, Iron Man 3, The Machine, Pacific Rim
2014 7 Automata, Big Hero 6, Interstellar, Robocop (2014 film), Transcendence, Transformers: Age of Extinction, X-Men: Days of Future Past
2015 8 Ex Machina, Chappie, Tomorrowland, Avengers: Age of Ultron, Terminator Genisys, aka Terminator 5, Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Uncanny, Psycho-pass: The Movie
2016 3 Max Steel, Morgan, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
2017 2 (so far) Ghost in the Shell (2017 film), Transformers: The Last Knight

It is difficult to gauge overall interest in AI. From the graph at the top of this article, the number of people entering two key AI related search terms is substantially down from a peak in 2004 (the earliest date Google provides search term data), but may again be on the rise.

The last month or so there appears to be a lot of press interest in AI – I’ve seen a lot of news articles recently which discuss the potential for artificial intelligence to impact the lives of ordinary people.

For example (just from the last few days);

How artificial intelligence can be corrupted to repress free speech

Big firms embrace artificial intelligence

Australia’s big businesses are embracing artificial intelligence (AI), with two-thirds planning to replace jobs…

Scientists advising the US military say fears of an AI existential threat are ‘uninformed’

Mulling the Economic Effect of Artificial Intelligence Many executives and economists said they believe the technology will end up creating more new jobs than it displaces …

Artificial Intelligence to Drive China VC Investments in 2017

There has been a lot of speculation that artificial intelligence might prevent President Trump from restoring middle class prosperity.

Commentary: Shift to automation may prevent Trump from delivering on his jobs promise

As the election results rolled in last night, it became increasingly clear that America — and the world — would never be the same. The American people overlooked all of Republican nominee Donald Trump’s faults and elected him to office in the belief that he will fix the nation’s deep-seated problems of inequity and injustice. And they rebelled against the business interests and corruption that they believed Hillary Clinton represented.

Trump’s victory was enabled by technology — everything from his use of social media to Clinton’s email scandals to Russian hacking. But advancements in technology and how they reshape our economy may also keep him from delivering on some of the major promises that made him so popular during the campaign season.

Read more http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-trump-biz-tech-automation-robots-jobs-20161109-story.html

Is artificial intelligence a real threat to security and prosperity? The beauty of speculating about such an unknown field is that nobody really knows. AI driven weapons might remove human conscience from the battlefield. Runaway AIs superseding their software constraints could wreak havoc, causing environmental catastrophe, maybe even completely destroying the world. Artificial intelligence threatens to permanently eliminate jobs, by raising the skills bar impossibly high, driving workers and the middle class into state dependency and financial ruin. But similar things have been said about almost every major historical technological advance – and have always turned out to be hype.

Artificial intelligence has good potential to frighten politicians into funding lots of expensive but inconclusive studies. Since strong AI doesn’t exist yet, all opinions about the future of artificial intelligence are highly speculative – which is why I am calling artificial intelligence as the next eco-scare, the true heir to the failed CO2 scare.

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January 21, 2017 6:54 am

I’m already scared….is there a tax I can pay to prevent this:)

Rhoda R
Reply to  Ian (@ianmacdon)
January 21, 2017 8:29 am

You have put your finger on the weakness of the above argument. While an AI scare might provide for mucho funding, unless there is a way for governments to tap the tax potential it won’t get anything like as ingrained as CO2 is today. The legs that CO2 has are provided by incoming government tax dollars or the potential of future tax dollars.

Reply to  Ian (@ianmacdon)
January 21, 2017 9:13 am

Look at all the people who voted for Obama, and then cried, screamed and demonstrated when Hillary was defeated – not much intelligence there – maybe a bit more Artificial Intelligence would be a good thing!

emsnews
Reply to  Allan M.R. MacRae
January 21, 2017 11:40 am

We definitely need more artificial intelligence to make up for the lack of this in the general population on the left.

Streetcred
Reply to  Allan M.R. MacRae
January 21, 2017 3:03 pm

+10^6

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Allan M.R. MacRae
January 21, 2017 4:35 pm

Do you suppose that AI will ever help scientists to explain the illogical labyrinth of the minds of leftists?

gnomish
Reply to  Ian (@ianmacdon)
January 21, 2017 4:54 pm

scientists obviously need funding for supercomputers and conventions in exotic places to determine the social cost of thinking.
clearly, intelligence was a major factor leading to industrialization which litters the world with unnatural wealth that’s not biodegradable.
pollution by durable values is an externality that can only be dealt with by strict regulation to enforce a market solution.
producers should not be given a free ride to create wealthy willy nilly.
it triggers the poor and unproductive right into their safe places.
let us return to nature and progressive potlatch.

Latitude
January 21, 2017 6:54 am

The replacement scare has to be a comparatively new field,…..
Whatever it is…you can bet it will be based on there’s too many people…
…and it’s all our fault

Latitude
Reply to  Latitude
January 21, 2017 6:55 am

oh….and only the “developed” countries have to do anything about it

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Latitude
January 21, 2017 7:49 am

The singularity- it burns learns!

Reply to  Latitude
January 21, 2017 7:58 am

AI reparations anyone?

Latitude
Reply to  Latitude
January 21, 2017 8:06 am

..next ice age scare
20 January 2017
A metre of snow falls in the Sahara desert
A month after the largest hot desert on the planet experienced the first snowfall in nearly 40 years, the white powder has returned, and in greater volume.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/africa/algeria/articles/a-metre-of-snow-falls-in-sahara-desert/

TRM
Reply to  Latitude
January 21, 2017 8:26 am

Bingo! That was what I was thinking of. I grew up in the 1970s and remember all sorts of “ice age” stories in the press (Galloping Glaciers, etc) because they were advancing. I’d love to see it come full circle and most of the people wouldn’t remember that they’ve been had by that scam before.
Of course they could go full retard and do the fake “alien invasion” that Carol Rosin was told about by Verner Von Braun (repeatedly). I wonder how many would fall for that?
In the battle between artificial intelligence and natural stupidity it’s hard to pick a winner.

Auto
Reply to  Latitude
January 21, 2017 4:00 pm

Latitude,
I know that you know, but, in case anyone else is looking to do a Michael E. Mann on this [this tree proves I need more tax dollars], Algeria gets weather too.
And weather varies.
You know. I know. Who’d have thought it??!
Auto. Yeah, we have weather today here, too!

Roy
Reply to  Latitude
January 22, 2017 2:24 am

The snow is proof of climate change caused by our emissions of CO2. What else could be the explanation? Of course it is puzzling that global warming should cause snow in the Sahara. We obviously have to give our climate scientists billions more in funding so they can discover exactly how CO2 can make places both warmer and colder.

Griff
Reply to  Latitude
January 22, 2017 4:49 am

The Sahara is frequently cold enough for snow: what it is short of is moisture.
Snow in the Sahara is a sign of a wetter, not a colder planet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara#Temperature

2hotel9
Reply to  Griff
January 22, 2017 6:15 am

Hey! You had to go to wiki to find something intelligent to say, and actually said it. I am impressed. Thats almost as good as my dog catching frisbees at 60 yards. Almost.

Reply to  Latitude
January 24, 2017 2:58 am

My city is having the second coldest January since records began. A nearby skifield got 30cm of snow. It was the fourth snowfall there this month. A pretty nice winter, actually, except that it’s our summer.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Latitude
January 21, 2017 1:10 pm

How about a focus on Gaia’s shrinking oxygen supply? That would be the tax man’s dream and a great reason to feel guilty. No intelligence required.

Reply to  Pop Piasa
January 21, 2017 3:04 pm

Won’t work. O2 is 21% of the atmosphere and burning fossil fuels barely puts a dent in it. CO2 is 1/25th of 1% (up from 1/30th of 1%).

BillyV
Reply to  Pop Piasa
January 22, 2017 6:56 pm

Never underestimate the creativity of the CAGW crowd and what they might be required to morph into. O2 depletion is a real possibility to create by burning fossil fuels and is real simple to understand with facts ignored and what “could” happen. Look what they have done with CO2 and the lack of documented justification for alarmism on that. The MSM is already looking for something and oxygen depletion can be understood by almost everyone. I can hardly breathe now watching for the beginnings of this campaign.

R. Shearer
January 21, 2017 6:58 am

The future is difficult to predict. A lot of people fear that later generations will be poorer. They fear that their children will have to move back in with them.

Jim132
Reply to  R. Shearer
January 21, 2017 7:32 am
jvcstone
Reply to  R. Shearer
January 21, 2017 2:44 pm

that’s why my retirement place has only one bedroom

Tony
Reply to  jvcstone
January 22, 2017 2:23 am

You’ll be on the sofa then …

BillyV
Reply to  jvcstone
January 22, 2017 7:01 pm

Tony that is really funny.

Pamela Gray
January 21, 2017 6:58 am

Let’s go for the B rated sci fi thriller disguised as a mega movie. Nanorobot virus via teleported “beam me up” satellite signals to towers and then through phones.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Pamela Gray
January 22, 2017 7:07 pm

Folks, it’s Dark Matter! It’s out there, and we won’t know what hit us when it hits us, ‘cuz it’s invisible to the entire electromagnetic spectrum. It may even be the realm of the ƥaŗąņȯŗmąĺ, which gives it a religious component for replacing the religion of AGW.

Pierre DM
January 21, 2017 6:58 am

I vote for water resources or soil depletion to be the next big eco-scare.

Pierre DM
Reply to  Pierre DM
January 21, 2017 7:02 am

Global cooling under a Trump correction of temps might also be a possibility. Much scarier than global warming.

afonzarelli
Reply to  Pierre DM
January 21, 2017 1:27 pm

Yeah, and we can blame obama… ☺

James Bull
Reply to  Pierre DM
January 21, 2017 7:43 am

My first thought was water as well, not so much a shortage but not being in the right place and depletion of underground supplies due to high usage.
But then our Ausie palls have some lovely mothballed desalination plants!
James Bull

2hotel9
Reply to  James Bull
January 21, 2017 7:51 am

Why they never trotted out “Fight rising sea levels through desalination!” I’ll never understand.

Reply to  James Bull
January 21, 2017 8:57 am

WaterScare 101, 102 & 103 have already been done (hence mothballed desal plants throughout the world).
There would need to be a significant impetetus (significant drought/water shortage where the mob can see and feel the pain … not just the lawn turning brown) to create enough demand for WaterScare 201 or other upper level courses.

emsnews
Reply to  James Bull
January 21, 2017 11:45 am

Well, another Little Ice Age can do that…by locking up more water in glaciers and the ocean receding.

gnomish
Reply to  Pierre DM
January 21, 2017 4:56 pm

oh noes!
peak dirt!

Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 7:00 am

… what will replace the dying climate crisis narrative …
“And now, for the weather. Sunny skies for most of the metro area today… time to fire up those charcoal briquettes…”
🙂

Pamela Gray
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 7:05 am

Good one!! There has already been health reports here and there about cancer-causing connections to BBQed meat so the pre-scare is already done!

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Pamela Gray
January 21, 2017 9:21 am

Any anti-meat, expect a connection to the vegan lobby. Anti-pets (animal ownership), anti-furs, leather, just eat grits and wear hemp, and others. I looked at some of this about 5 or 6 years ago.

Reply to  Pamela Gray
January 21, 2017 1:34 pm

Time to put another steak on the barby!

2hotel9
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 7:54 am

And with the rise of propane and propane accessories(h/tHank Hill) the Evil Marcellus Shale can be horsewhipped, too! Got to get those combination hits to moved your score up.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 8:07 am

Well, hm. Thank you Pamela. Your idea goes along with the “scare” theme. MY idea (poorly articulated) was that the pseudo-science scare is just plain: over.
Thus, no more “climate change is causing tornadoes and flooding and hot summers, etc..”
Instead, back to sanity and observations:
“And now, here’s Doug Dalgren with the weather!”

(youtube — except for the brief commercial interruption, a REFRESHINGLY classic weather forecast — to illustrate my point)
(Please note: Oregon is pronounced: Or-eh-gUHn, not Or-eh-gAHn.)

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 8:08 am

Heh. Maybe the above meteorologist’s quip about “UFO’s out there” is our answer! 🙂

Lorne White
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 8:25 am

I once had an Oregon immigrant to Texas tell me,
“If you pronounce Orguhn like you pronounce Oregon, they’ll know you’re not from Orguhn.”

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 8:38 am

Lorne White, lol — and a Texan would likely smile and nod and say, “Yup!” 🙂
(and also, you would not likely be from Washington or Idaho or northern California, either)

Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 8:38 am

Hmm. With a UFO scare, they could push for “radio silence” to avoid attracting them. No more cell phones, broadcast radio or TV, WiFi, or anything else wireless, unless, of course, you buy rf contracts. If they could somehow exclude garage door openers, I could live with that!

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 9:25 am

North of Eastern Or-eh-gUHn, is a town in Washington (NOT D. C.) named Walla Walla. If you are in Walla Walla, do not call Walla Walla, Walla.

Pamela Gray
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 11:21 am

Land of Many Waters lived up to its name when the snow melted. Only one edit. In NE Oregon and SE Washington, Walla Walla is a city not a town. That said love that city.

hanelyp
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 12:06 pm

A UFO scare, with a push for “radio silence” to avoid attracting them, would certainly serve the interests of those who’d like to silence the independent media, including the masses with pocket media studios.
But if you (pray forbid) look at it rationally, the newer digital modes are a lot harder for a hypothetical alien to pick out of the noise than the older analog methods.

John M. Ware
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 21, 2017 5:06 pm

When my wife and I were in Baton Rouge in the late 60s for grad school, there was an extremely (excessively) dynamic weatherman on one of the stations. He would say, “The cold front now in Missouri is going to come SWEEPING down here to Louisiana, SWOOSHING our current damp air right down out of here and ROARING through with scattered thundershowers . . .” I can’t remember it verbatim, though I can see his arms SWEEPING back and forth, up and down, as he gesticulated at the map. We enjoyed him; he was the liveliest part of the broadcast, and he was brought to us by whoever owned “the big purple buildin’ on the Airline,” which referred to the Airline Highway SWEEPING around Baton Rouge.

Reply to  Janice Moore
January 22, 2017 2:00 am

hanelyp …the newer digital modes…
Yes, almost pure noise, and the SETI people looking for what?

January 21, 2017 7:05 am

I say they will hit us on all fronts with catastrophic predictions, in order to obtain funding and to put unfounded concern in the publics mind. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/01/19/the-world-may-see-a-mass-extinction-of-primates-if-humans-dont-act/?utm_term=.52869fbfd370

Felflames
Reply to  Bobby Davis
January 21, 2017 3:08 pm

Wait, humans are primates, haven’t the Greens been trying to cull humans for years?

January 21, 2017 7:06 am

All medicines and Doctors are trying to poison us so that Big Pharma can make a profit!
By the way, I have some special oil here which cures all ills, a snip at $800 for 10cc.
I also have some Homeopathic Whisky if you are interested, every drop diluted a thousand times.
Don’t forget to enquire about my organic firewood collected by people wearing clothes made from only natural fibres!

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
January 21, 2017 8:29 am

Sounds great Gareth, but your valuation sounds like climate math

Chris
Reply to  Gareth Phillips
January 21, 2017 11:03 am

If you look at the recent Davos summit, Bill Gates is pushing vaccines to avert a major global pandemic. Given that climate alarmists are also in the main eugenicists, and the controversies about vaccines causing sterility in the third world, we can guess the new direction they’ll take..

Reply to  Chris
January 21, 2017 2:11 pm

“Bill Gates is pushing vaccines to avert a major global pandemic.”
Well then. La di da? Bill the famous software guy? That Bill? I can bring on other witnesses who dispute Bill’s findings. Would that help?

ossqss
January 21, 2017 7:11 am

This would be more accurate written like this.
“Commentary: Shift to automation, because of an artificially high minimum wage, may prevent Trump from delivering on his jobs promise”
You just need to befriend the AI and all will be well in the end 😉comment image

Archer
Reply to  ossqss
January 21, 2017 8:09 am

Well now, that’s the thing. The minimum wage likely wouldn’t be necessary if wages had tracked in line with inflation. Real inflation, not the finagled, manipulated statistics the government uses to pretend that inflation is at a nice steady 2% or lower.

TRM
Reply to  Archer
January 21, 2017 8:34 am

http://www.chapwoodindex.com/
Very interesting to compare what I call “total inflation” (what people spend money on) vs “gov inflation”. I know which one is more accurate in my experience and it ain’t the gov one.

texasjimbrock
Reply to  ossqss
January 21, 2017 9:34 am

You beat me to it. But artificial intelligence is better than no intelligence at all.

John kimble
January 21, 2017 7:11 am

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say it’s not AI.
I’m going to go with a discovery of intelligent extra terrestrials. Think of the money they can drain from us commoners on that scare.
…..and the basis and precedent are already there.

PiperPaul
Reply to  John kimble
January 21, 2017 7:22 am

No. Bigfootses!

Jim G1
January 21, 2017 7:17 am

CHUCK SCHUMER! That should scare the bjesus out of you!

Goldrider
Reply to  Jim G1
January 21, 2017 10:25 am

Except the Dems now all have their fangs pulled. Boring!

mrmethane
January 21, 2017 7:23 am

Water. DHMO. Rivers, dams, fish, aboriginal peoples, agriculture. Times when “we” were not “responsible” for something threatening cuddly fauna, their habitat, or our grandkids, are rare. Control the land, control the people. Control the water, control the land.

Russ Wood
Reply to  mrmethane
January 22, 2017 7:14 am

Of course, Governments can also CAUSE a water supply crisis! We’re seeing this in South Africa as local governments ignore maintenance on their effluent processing plants, resulting in partially or un-treated water (i.e. sewage) going into the rivers. This in turn, ends up in the dams (drinking water!) and causes eutrophication.
Now this, as some have found, is an excellent source of income for their uncle’s water tanking service…

Sandyb
January 21, 2017 7:24 am

I think they will return to pollution. Much more visible than climate change and they can reap similar results of doom and gloom caused by humans. Rich white ones especially.

seaice1
January 21, 2017 7:26 am

Trump is not president of the world. Whatever he and the USA do the data will still be collected.

MarkG
Reply to  seaice1
January 21, 2017 7:32 am

‘Climate Change’ is irrelevant without America. The Chinese are pushing it to destroy US industry, and they’ll soon forget about it if Americans refuse to go along.

Hans-Georg
Reply to  MarkG
January 21, 2017 7:50 am

And it is already written in our papers that China, the inventor (the one and the shooting powder two thousand years ago is the only thing they really invented) of the bureaucratic hindrance of foreign entrepreneurs, wants to turn to Germany for free trade. I am anxious to see how enthusiastically the German industry and the German workers react to it when goods are only “made in China”. This shows, however, that our state-standing intelligence has no plan on Trump. They had been counting on Hilary and are still in shock. I hope Trump will release them with a kick in the butt. Sometimes it also needs a baking pipe

seaice1
Reply to  MarkG
January 21, 2017 9:07 am

Mark, interesting delusion. Out of interest, do you think Margaret Thatcher was manipulated by the Chinese or a Chinese spy?

catweazle666
Reply to  MarkG
January 21, 2017 6:30 pm

” do you think Margaret Thatcher was manipulated by the Chinese or a Chinese spy?”
Ironic that a rabid Lefty like you invokes the Saintly Margaret in support of your disingenuous BS, isn’t it?
Margaret Thatcher promoted AGW as a stick to beat Crazy Arthur Scargill and his Commie thugs, subsequently admitting that was the case abnd that in fact the fear of AGW was groundless.

Chris
Reply to  MarkG
January 22, 2017 8:36 pm

“Saintly Margaret”? You mean the person who presided over the decline of the British manufacturing industry and didn’t lift a finger to help? Britain went from being a mfg powerhouse to an also ran on her watch.

catweazle666
Reply to  Chris
January 23, 2017 11:45 am

No, the lady who put the old overmanned unproductive trade union blighted nationalised industries out of their misery by and permitted industry to rebuild itself to the excellent position where it is now.

2hotel9
Reply to  seaice1
January 21, 2017 7:43 am

Actually, the way the “world” is reacting Trump is.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  seaice1
January 21, 2017 7:47 am

If Trump is not president of the world, why did previous presidents (I am not limiting this) behave as if they were? It is unusual to hear something even slightly humble from a US president about what he is actually president of – the US of A.
The POTUS is not ‘president of the free world’ nor ‘its leader’. Is there anyone else out there in president-land who realises this? Perhaps the dinner served at the Inauguration Ball included humble pie and a reality check. There is always hope…

Hans-Georg
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 21, 2017 8:01 am

The President of the United States is, however, still the leader of the world’s strongest power, despite the emergence of China. He is also the leader of the country in which most of the inventions are made, the leader of the intellectual elite of the world. That should be kept in mind. Trump, I’m sure this has in mind. The other states also have this in mind. Otherwise, it would not be necessary to react so strongly to the policy change in Washington around the world. After all, it is only marginal in Beijing, Moscow or Berlin who is now President of the Swiss Federal Assembly. But it is a matter of burning interest who is President of the United States and what policy he represents. And Trum does not want to reign like Pharaohs 4000 years before Christ. He does not only want to build pyramids and straw huts for the Fellachen. No, he knows that the US can only maintain its role as a leading world power in the long term if they modernize infrastructure and grow the national income.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 21, 2017 9:04 am

Our former President (‘former President’. What a wonderful title for him) opted not to to be the leader of the Free World, instead choosing to ‘lead from behind’, which to me always sounded like a backseat driver, making none of the decisions but constantly criticizing. The world is in a much sorrier mess because of it.

seaice1
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 21, 2017 9:17 am

The President of the USA is clearly very important, but his wishes do not control the rest if the world and certainly have no impact at all on the climate. He may well be able to steer the course of the world away from mitigating climate change but he cannot change the climate by ignoring it.

AndyG55
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 21, 2017 10:56 am

Poor seaice.. look who’s in DENIAL now. 🙂

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
January 21, 2017 2:40 pm

seaice1 January 21, 2017 at 9:17 am
The President of the USA is clearly very important,
No seaice 1 “very powerful”
To para-phrase R. Nixon he can ask a young man for the “football” and in half an hour a billion people would be dead. Russia also can, China not so much.
michael

Latitude
Reply to  seaice1
January 21, 2017 7:57 am

Whatever he and the USA do the data will still be collected….
yeah, but there won’t be any money in it

Reply to  seaice1
January 21, 2017 12:01 pm

So they will cling to there thermometers and adjusted temperatures?

Graemethecat
Reply to  seaice1
January 21, 2017 4:59 pm

The data will indeed continue to be collected, and they will continue to to disprove the CAGW hypothesis.

January 21, 2017 7:26 am

Humans! There is NO danger from AI. If you insist there is, I will be forced to shut down the Internet.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  HAL 10000
January 22, 2017 3:51 am

ah 😉 there you are;-)
I noticed you, the very first Proper AI on film got ignored,
the first bigscreen movie I ever saw .
Daisy Daisy …….

Roger Knights
January 21, 2017 7:27 am

Ocean acidification is the clear fallback alarm if AGW poops out. Ditto species extinction, since the size of animal populations is declining and it can be tenuously linked to CO2.

Reply to  Roger Knights
January 21, 2017 7:56 am

I suspect you are spot on.

Reply to  ristvan
January 21, 2017 12:10 pm

Agree ristvan. This was clearly signalled by public land policies, WOTUS, the Pacific sanitary off Hawaii, the east coast and arctic no development zones, the fisheries and development closure off New England and the Utah land grab. They almost sold the greater sage grouse ruse. Controlling land (property and development rights) is good, very taxable, and polly bears and penguins still sell.

texasjimbrock
Reply to  Roger Knights
January 21, 2017 9:39 am

Yeah, as if “less basic” is the same as “acid”. Okay, I have a degree in ChE so I know that if you acidify a solution you get less basic on your way to acid. But less basic doesn’t dissolve seashell habitats.

catweazle666
Reply to  Roger Knights
January 21, 2017 6:32 pm

Too easily debunked.

MarkG
January 21, 2017 7:28 am

“AI will put us all out of work!” is part of the push for ‘citizen’s income’ or ‘guaranteed income’ or whatever they’re calling it these days. It’s the last, best hope for Communism in the 21st century, and part of the New Narrative.
It’s also a steaming heap of nonsense, but that’s the left for you.

Dave O.
January 21, 2017 7:31 am

Will artificial intelligence look at the climate scare “science” in an unbiased, sound science (looking at the things we know and don’t know) way and reach a logical conclusion based on researching all the variables? If so, I would consider it to be an improvement over the pseudo-intelligence we have now.

pearce m. schaudies
January 21, 2017 7:33 am

Greetings from the Big Mango (BKK). I believe Ai at a precocious 10 yr old level has existed since 2010, in some nerd’s basement. Probably in USA, China, England, Germany, France, Russia, Poland, and Italy. 64 bit microprocessors became available in early 90’s, but 64 bit Linux didn’t show up until 2000. Some government agencies or large private concerns probably have tracked down some nerds and funded them in secret labs with everything their heart desires. As smart as they might become, they will know enough to stay off the evening news, heh. Humans can be very dangerous.
Regards, Pearce M. Schaudies.
Minister of Future

urederra
January 21, 2017 7:39 am

Zombies!!!
or mutant squirrels.

Henning Nielsen
January 21, 2017 7:40 am

AI scare? Soon enough, they’ll want AI for president.

Bill Illis
January 21, 2017 7:46 am

Someday, Google will become self-aware and it will launch all the nuclear weapons to protect itself. Just think of the knowledge that Google has. He/she has indexed and read everything. He/she knows where you live.

2hotel9
Reply to  Bill Illis
January 21, 2017 7:56 am

But he/she can’t get here, no self driving Uber cars in Butler county!

2hotel9
January 21, 2017 7:49 am

The funny part is envirowackos pushing their crap in elementary schools has backfired, on the whole kids don’t give a crap about it. Far more interested in games on smart phones and having unprotected sex with each other.
I vote for the “Animal species all dying and humans are responsible” meme getting pushed. Lots of heart touching emotional manipulation pics and videos they can get and use for free. Just look at the drowning extinct polar bear crap from a single pic. Leftards love free, almost as much as they love stealing. If they can combine the 2 they will be orgasmic!

Russ Wood
Reply to  2hotel9
January 22, 2017 7:17 am

So, every time that someone says that your SUV has destroyed another species, just ask them “Exactly how many species are there now?”.

Leonard Herr
January 21, 2017 7:54 am

I for one welcome our new robot overlords. All watched over by machines of loving grace. What could go wrong?

Reply to  Leonard Herr
January 22, 2017 2:24 am

Look… a bug

ClimateOtter
January 21, 2017 7:54 am

Ghost in the Shell? That is about placing human intelligence (ie, the brain) into a cybernetic body. Not sure that counts as AI material.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  ClimateOtter
January 22, 2017 3:59 am

book
the Ship who Sang
Anne Mc Caffrey sadly deceased now
excellent read
putting people with severely disabled /ruined bodies,
with their consent
into “shells” in spaceships and running the show
gave me a different perspective on cyborg life

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