The University of Toronto is hosting a data archiving event on 17th December, to try to “save” climate data they believe will be deleted by the new Donald Trump administration.
Guerrilla Archiving Event: Saving Environmental Data from Trump
There is a Call to Action underway coming out of the Technoscience Research Unit at the University of Toronto, and happening at the Faculty of Information.
Two professors are calling on citizens to figure out if they “Care about Trump, data, or the environment?” Volunteersare invited to join in a full day of hackathon activities in preparation for the Trump presidency.
This event collaborates with the Internet Archive’s End of Term 2016 project, which seeks to archive the federal online pages and data that are in danger of disappearing during the Trump administration. This event is focused on preserving information and data from the Environmental Protection Agency, which has programs and data at high risk of being removed from online public access or even deleted. This includes climate change, water, air, toxics programs. This project is urgent because the Trump transition team has identified the EPA and other environmental programs as priorities for the chopping block.
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SVP and up-to-date information: https://www.facebook.com/events/1828129627464671/ (link is external)
Bring: laptops, power bars, and snacks. Coffee and Pizza provided.
https://technoscienceunit.wordpress.com/2016/12/04/guerrilla-archiving-e… (link is external)
Submitted by Kathleen O’Brien on Mon, 2016-12-12 17:35
Date:
Saturday, December 17, 2016 –
10:00 to 16:00
Location:
Bissell Building, 4th Floor, 140 St. George St. University of Toronto
Read more: https://ischool.utoronto.ca/content/guerrilla-archiving-event-saving-environmental-data-trump
Can anyone recall any climate skeptic, anywhere, ever demanding the deletion of climate data?
Much of the battle between skeptics and climate organisations has been about compelling reluctant climate researchers to release data which they wanted to hide. Skeptics have consistently demanded more access to data, not less.
For example, consider Climategate email 1106338806.txt from Professor Phil Jones, former head of the prestigious UK based Climatic Research Unit.
From: Phil Jones
To: Tom Wigley
Subject: Re: FOIA
Date: Fri Jan 21 15:20:06 2005
Cc: Ben Santer
Tom,
I’ll look at what you’ve said over the weekend re CCSP.
I don’t know the other panel members. I’ve not heard any
more about it since agreeing a week ago.
As for FOIA Sarah isn’t technically employed by UEA and she
will likely be paid by Manchester Metropolitan University.
I wouldn’t worry about the code. If FOIA does ever get
used by anyone, there is also IPR to consider as well.
Data is covered by all the agreements we sign with people,
so I will be hiding behind them. I’ll be passing any
requests onto the person at UEA who has been given a post to
deal with them.
Cheers
Phil
Plenty more where that email came from – lots of discussions in the Climategate archive of legal tricks to avoid Freedom of Information requests, use of UN mandates to avoid national law based FOIA requests, requests to delete emails and files, and what appear to be deliberate attempts to conceal and perhaps even to delete important material.
In January 2010, the UK information office found that the CRU had breached freedom of information laws, but that the statute of limitations on the offence had run out – it was too late to prosecute those responsible.
But what ‘type ‘ of data? They would love to wipe out the unaltered and keep only the ‘adjusted’ data sets , which to some extent they already done . So WHAT they seek to preserve will be telling .
You know others by thyself.
I dare you to try and find the ERSST V3 ocean SST series which was the standard up to 2013. The NCDC scraped it from every place on the Internet it was held. Steve McIntyre archived it and I have saved a copy but that is all there is.
It also why we have to had to use the Wayback Internet archive so often.
But this will backfire and the warming supporters. Those that know what they should be looking for will be disheartened when they find out how hard it is to find the important climate data.
You mean the Wayback Machine hasn’t been compromised / infested / infiltrated yet?
http://s27.postimg.org/67hd75k9v/lefty_institute_skin_suit_iowahawk.png
Er…don’t you just hit the SAVE button (if you haven’t already)? Why do you Toronto U people need the full cast of Aida, plus elephants?
I’ve saved climate data in case it disappears. It’s the data that shows that the hottest year in my region was 1915, the coolest was 1929, the driest was 1902 and the wettest was 1950. It’s the data which demonstrates that each month in my region had its highest mean max between 1910 and 1919 (except August, hottest in 1946).
So skip the operatics and just save the data, such as it is. Reduce your Aida footprint.
I think it;s more a “SAVE” button…which saves data in line with the dogma. Remember the “keepers of script” held control aver all. Do I need to mention “indulgences” and “church”?
You simply don’t understand the hive mind of the unhinged left: more people are ALWAYS the answer. Safety in numbers, doncha know. Solidarity. We the people. The 99%. Etc.
Of course, if you’ve ever been to a union meeting, or any sort of community group activity, you’ll know that the majority of the people are only there to pad the numbers. Most of the talking will be done by a handful of loudmouthed bullies. Wait for it at the U of T.
Can’t wait for the Black Lives Matter/Transgender Warrior Alliance to weigh in on climate change. Oh, wait:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3788741/Black-Lives-Matter-activists-admit-charges-City-Airport-protest.html
One common theme for not handing over data is that it is propriety and they don’t own it so can not hand it over. Another is that they need written approval to pass it on to 3rd parties. The courts, in every country that I know of, also recognise data as a resource that has a monetary value.
So my question is, how many data protection laws and copyright laws are they willingly infringing by copying this data to 3rd parties? Do they realise they by giving a 3rd party data they do not own they may be breaking the law?
NOTE: I think that distributing climate data is a good thing as it means it is more likely to end up in the public domain.
Great observation. All skeptics need to do is form some PC-sounding foundation (say “Alliance for Protection of Science”), and contact all the usual climate researchers and say “send us your raw data so we can protect it from Trump”.
Maybe you’ll get something interesting.
Raw data may be owned by someone, but they are not protected by copyright.
It’s an opportunity. Everyone let them know that you’re willing to keep a copy of the climate data to protect it from being deleted or altered. That you feel that scientific integrity is crucial for science to move foward and that you’re very concerened about it being altered in the coming Trump era. [;-)]
Make sure to let them know that you can archive all the data and that you’ve got plenty of friends willing to help them get the data out of danger of being deleted or changed.
Maybe it’s the recordings of crickets, lalalala and silence that they will be saving as that has been the response that requests for data have brought forth.
James Bull
Didn’t Toronto used to be in Canada?
Are they going to wear “Trump is not my president” tee shirts? Would actually be appropriate.
Didn’t Toronto used to be in Canada?
There are a lot of people that wish that it wasn’t.
Give it to Quebec, then see what you can do to restart the secessionist movement there.
Many of us gather a lot of data on our hard drives. Several posters have downloaded databases so they will have the original if the database is later ‘adjusted’.
It is important to create a README file for each database that records where the database came from and the date it was collected. Without that information, there is almost no point archiving the database in the first place.
If you collect a lot of data, it is important that you have a way to find what you want. I use Zotero to organize my research. It’s free and installs easily into Firefox.
Maybe Harry could create this file…
“Can anyone recall any climate skeptic, anywhere, ever demanding the deletion of climate data?”
That kind of depends on which side of the fence you sit on now doesn’t it. You see, the model lovers out there think that models produce data while us science deniers think they produce output. So by wanting to get rid of bad homogenization processes, the deniers want to destroy the “data”.
The Washington Post and NYT picked up this stupid story, too. They are all yelling about it like it is roasting hot. The high tomorrow on my little mountain here in NY will be 6 degrees above 0F tomorrow! Isn’t global warming fun?
I never tire of listening to this from the Minnesotans for Global Warming.
PMK
I for one would be glad to see the Trump Administration delete all the “adjusted” data and leave only the raw data available.
Unfortunately this action would likely leave empty databases as unadjusted data would likely fit entirely on the head of a pin written on the wings of the angels dancing there. Or a 16 MB SD card
Woops! Seems the usual modus operandi of flogging gender fluidity, safe spaces and trigger points can backfire on their enthusiasts-
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/a-professor-called-trump%E2%80%99s-election-an-%E2%80%98act-of-terrorism%E2%80%99-death-threats-forced-her-to-flee/ar-AAlx6aP?
Wonder if we’ll see a similar backlash with the doomsday warming dribble some time?
ScienceABC123 December 14, 2016 at 4:56 am
I for one would be glad to see the Trump Administration delete all the “adjusted” data and leave only the raw data available.
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Revert adjusted data back to
how flat the earth is
Miasma theory of disease
Aether was a good theory
so was earth centric universe
Why change – they must have been correct then as they are now
I think updating obvious misunderstandings , and errors cannot be faulted if there is scientific backing.
I wonder if they will come across the data that Phil Jones lost that prevented him from defending his paper on: “Assessment of urbanization effects in time series of surface air temperature over land”?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/15/phil-jones-lost-weather-data
The interesting point is why would it occur to them that a politician might hide data that he might find inconvenient? Has that already been happening, I wonder, or did that only just occur to them?
These types of “events” by the Alarmists, who are in full blown panic mode now, are nothing more than political grandstanding, meant to rally the troops to their Cause which is now a lost one, but hey, it gives them the feeling that they are “doing something”.
As others have pointed out, it is the skeptics who have demanded that data should be preserved and shared. The climate weasels are the ones refusing to share, preserve unaltered, and to practice transparency. The lefties running this are projecting, not protecting.
Exactly. It’s more likely they will be deleting data, not saving it.
Liberals will do just the opposite of what they say they want to do.
The several commenters who mentioned “projection” are on point. Dealing with the climate change establishment in the US government will be like a a replay of the IRS and Hillary’s emails, where hard drives will crash, backup files will get deleted, and Bleachbit file destruction software will be used on the subpoenaed files. They are much better at CYA than their purported jobs.
Except, for the next eight years, when a government official says ‘we can’t give you that data because we’re incompetent’, the response will not be ‘well, OK then’. It will be ‘YOU’RE FIRED!’
Don’t forget the over-sized bronze statue to the data and the hockey stick chart, the faculty committee for the protection of the data, the student and Greek elections for the protection of the data, and the extended holiday for honoring the data, especially the simulated data. You will also need journalism awards for best coverage of the (contrived) issue.
Gotta laugh at these loopy warmists. We all know logic is not their strong suit, but if Trump’s agenda is, indeed, to expose the AGW scam, then data will be the very evidence he needs for the conviction. Their archiving efforts will be akin to setting a nice, comprehensive, organized evidence room, all ready for him to draw on when he prosecutes his case. AGWers … it really doesn’t get any dumber.
You’re kidding, right?
By the time they’re done there will be no way to accurately trace anything about the data.
Look what Harry did to the harry_read_me file and he was trying to help save the data.
I’ll just make it up.
Probably came across wrong. Maybe better to say that with all this archived stuff to compare to the real thing, there will be a readily accessible trove of falsified propaganda to draw on. The situation now is that once something is uncovered as bunkum, it mysteriously disappears from sites, with no acknowledgement that it ever existed. Where did that poster-sized IPCC hockey stick disappear to? Warmists will not change their stripes, and try to make their fake data look more “real” again.
They don’t want to save data. They want to perpetuate propaganda websites.
This is funny, coming from an industry that is famous for both hiding, and losing the raw data.
Or fabricating data where it doesn’t exist.
The left wing’s imagination always works overtime – how many unsubstantiated, even absurdly stupid, fears have been published over the years about some predicted casualty or another from global warming. mostly by junk science publications and/or the almost totally ignorant mass media (by their “science editor” sometimes, just before, like the WaPo, they reassign them to the fashion or style section). I suppose these guys believe that those currently manning the battle stations at the EPA are negligent by not archiving (actually, the data is already archived and probably to multiple storage locales and devices – memory is so cheap it could be located in a thousand different laptop desk drawers ). Just put it on the internet – NOTHING ever gets deleted from there, excepting pictures of the South’s “Old Glory” – the stars and bars of the Confederate flag. Which are, by the way, extremely valuable if original, just like almost anything connected with the Confederacy