*UPDATE/CORRECTION: This post was based on an article in the Independent, which has since been changed. This is the original headline:
It is only available on the wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161208201537/http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change-global-warming-mass-extinctions-species-study-donald-trump-kill-himself-joke-a7464391.html
Now it reads:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change-global-warming-mass-extinctions-species-study-donald-trump-kill-himself-joke-a7464391.html
Many other outlets, including Yahoo News picked up the story.
This has come about because the biologist in question made a joke, and the reporter used the quote verbatim. The blog “On Second Thought” delved into the details:
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Wiens confirmed that he did, in fact, say Trump should kill himself, but noted the statement was made as joke:
“On Thursday, December 8, I was contacted by Ian Johnston from The Independent, ostensibly to talk about my paper on climate change and extinction that was being published in PLoS Biology (the paper actually received serious reporting by Brandie Wiekle from CBC News and others).
“Unfortunately, Mr. Johnston admitted that he had not read my paper, and apparently had little interest in talking about it. It turned out that he only wanted to talk about Donald Trump. I did not. He asked me what I would say to Donald Trump. I said that I really did not think that Donald Trump cared at all what I thought.
“Obviously, I hoped that this would be the end of the topic. He persisted. I did therefore say that Trump should “kill himself immediately” (i.e., his doing this seems about as likely as him following any recommendation from an obscure scientist like myself about stopping climate change). I then made sure that it was clear that it was a joke.”
Johnston’s original story did note it was a joke, but Wiens was nonetheless surprised it got into print:
“I also assumed, wrongly, that it (the joke) would not be reported, since the statement was meant to be ridiculous. He did NOT report my preceding statement that I did not think Trump cared what I thought. He then kept persisting with the same question about Trump.
“Next, to further indicate that I wanted to change the subject, I suggested that the UK should make its former colonies switch leaders, so that the U.S. gets Justin Trudeau and Canada gets Donald Trump (as in, to make both the U.S. and Donald Trump nicer after a few years).”
In a subsequent email, Wiens told me that he and Johnston are in disagreement over what was on or off the record.
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So for those confused by the headline, Weins did in fact say that, intended it as a joke, and thought he was in the clear. This illustrates the perils of making jokes while talking to a reporter. President Ronald Reagan learned the hard way back in the 80’s with his famous bombing quote. From the Wikipedia account:
On August 11, 1984, United StatesPresidentRonald Reagan, while running for re-election, was preparing to make his weekly Saturday radio address on National Public Radio. During a sound check before the address, Reagan made the following joke to the radio technicians: “My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.” The joke was a parody of the opening line of that day’s speech: “My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you that today I signed legislation that will allow student religious groups to begin enjoying a right they’ve too long been denied — the freedom to meet in public high schools during nonschool hours, just as other student groups are allowed to do.”[1]
Contrary to popular misconception, this microphone gaffe was not broadcast over the air, but rather leaked later to the general populace.
So for all those people who got their panties in a twist over this (Brandon S. for example), that’s the clarification.
-Anthony Watts
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Yahoo reports on another outbreak of green peace and love, this time from Arizona Professor John Wiens.
‘Kill yourself immediately’: Biologist takes aim at climate change denier Donald Trump
An evolutionary biologist who says all animal life could be wiped out in as little as 50 years has instructed Donald Trump to “kill yourself immediately”.
Professor John Wiens took aim at the controversial president elect, who refutes the existence of climate change, while describing the “global disaster” taking hold of our planet.
The Arizona University scientist found that 47 per cent of almost 1000 species had suffered local extinctions linked to climate change, according to the Independent.
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Professor Wiens joked that if he ever got to meet Trump he would instruct him to “kill himself”, but when questioned again he gave a more serious answer.
“I guess I would tell him ‘what would you think if there was a country on the other side of the world that was releasing gas that was going to cause extinctions in our country, to hurt our crops and make people starve?’
“He would say, ‘tell me where it is and we’ll bomb them tomorrow’. Then I’d say, ‘this is what we’re doing to other countries because we are the big polluters’.”
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You might think Professor Wiens has eaten one field trip mushroom too many, but in terms of Arizona academics he’s actually an optimist. WUWT reported in November this year that according to Arizona colleague Professor-emeritus Guy McPherson we don’t have to worry about climate change, because the 6th mass extinction will kill us all off in the next ten years, regardless of what we do.
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How do these dimwits get to be “professors”?
Unfortunately, it is airheads like this instructing and creating new airheads.
Sadly, they are not airheads. Their heads are full of the stuff that animals eject from the output ends of their digestive systems. That makes them _ _ _ _ heads.
“””””….. The Arizona University scientist found that 47 per cent of almost 1000 species had suffered local extinctions linked to climate change, according to the Independent. …..”””””
” Local Extinction ” occurs when the only buck deer the bow hunter has seen all week, finally comes within range of his blind, and goes down quickly to his well aimed broadhead. A lull in the persistent drizzle finally led to success.
Yeah we really need to be concerned with local extinctions, caused by climate change.
G
George, congrats on your local extinction. Thats always an accomplishment with a bow. I would bet that the average how hunter knows a heck of a lot more about the environment than the average professor.
If you ask me, any “University Professor” who spouts out Any specific person should kill themselves based on that person exercising their rights to free speech on any given subject, that Professor should be subjected to immediate disciplinary action beginning with censure, followed by unpaid leave and a through psychological evaluation with the potential for involuntary hospitalization and possibly loss of their teaching credentials
Brian A, I would also think drug testing would be in order.
47% of 1000 species sounds like a statistic from a model.
As Willis demanded, “Show me the Bodies”.
I’d like a list.
Bryan A, doesn’t the University Professor also have a right to free speech?
47% of grant money will go extinct.
Free speech anent the government is protected, against individuals is not. YCLIU.
Yes Ron, he should have the right to say so but it shouldn’t be without disciplinary action on the part of the school. Anyone who is educated to the point of becoming a university professor should also have sufficient wisdom to realize a statement like that could have repercussions that could negatively impact their career. Especially when that statement could be construed ad a Presidential Death Threat. And yes, telling a man to kill himself is the same as wishing him dead which, in the case of a President (elect) is the same thing as a death threat
I would expect better of those whom society deems wise enough to place thoughts and ideas into the heads of the next generation on a paid professional basis
Ronald P Ginzler, December 9, 2016 at 8:32 pm
“Bryan A, doesn’t the University Professor also have a right to free speech?” Sure he does and Brian has the right to feel the Professor should be held accountable in a certain manner. The professor can be called to account by any citizen.
It would be safe to assume that honest discussion of this topic is not happening in this professor’s classes and that students who espoused an alternate view on the environment would likewise be told to kill themselves.
This is what education is today? The Socratic ideal of university education is dead today.
I call them “brain dead”. Evidence is not their strength.
Selection bias. Doctoral degree students are trained by professors, then selected for employment by professors. There’s little or no external input to the process, except possibly with the for-profit institutions where the business people who run them select faculty.
It’s an incestuous relationship then…
if there was a country on the other side of the world that was releasing gas that was going to cause extinctions in our country……China
‘this is what they are doing to other countries because they are the big polluters’.”
….this guy’s a total idiot
Nah, he just needs a mental health checkup. Most activist have some sort of psychological pathology that needs urgent attention. Don’t know why? Single parent upbringing maybe. GK
This is true. Every so often in Texas the sky becomes filled with smoke…do you want to know where it comes from? It’s from the Mexican farmers burning their fields for next years crop. What happens next? Texas gets blamed by the fed.gov of producing too much emissions and pollutants.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/life/life_columnists/forrest_mims/article/Country-Scientist-The-annual-smoke-invasion-4557637.php
They go to school, go to university, then go back to school. Never lived in the real World, never left the government teat.
Exactly – and you only have to talk to them to realise that they tend to treat people in the way that someone used to lecturing a captive audience of children/students “expects to be able to”.
The secondary trait of these teat dependents is that when confronted with facts that they cannot dispute they resort to Ad Hom’s.
Foot stamping and dummy spitting is their norm.
The silly outburst reported here is a classic example.
Those who can, do, those who can t , teach
….Those that don’t want to………
…..have government jobs.
John piccirilli
Those who can do, those who can’t teach, those who can’t do or teach become college professors.
Eugene WR Gallun
And those who cant teach, teach Phy Ed.
Professors are vermin.
Stop insulting vermin, they have a useful role in the foodchain.
Perchance because they study more and more about less and less and end up knowing very little.
End up knowing absolutely everything about nothing.
That’s the definition of a specialist — one who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about absolutely nothing. Is it possible, then, to have any kind of thought if there is nothing to think about? Can these vampires of the mind even have a real thought of their own, let alone something insightful, creative or of value?
“I’ll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there’s evidence of any thinking going on inside it.” — Terry Pratchett
– Suck up
– Publish
– Tenure
– Say any stupid thing you want
– And they do. They do.
Parents have to start voting with their checkbooks and refuse to let their children attend institutions where they indoctrinate people into this ridiculous garbage. Hit ’em in the pocketbook!
They get to be professors by years of study, research, and the acquiring of knowledge in their particular field, plus repeated peer reviews. It is the furthest thing from being an airhead. If you dont agree with his theories or conclusions, fine, but don’t denigrate the hard work or intellegence it takes to get to be in Dr, Wiens’s position.I doubt you are anywhere nearly as well respected in your field or as educated or done as much travel and hands on research. And what exactly do you have as proof that he is wrong in his conclusions? Or what are your credentials to back up your proofs?
You have every right to disagre with Dr Wiens, but you can show a little respect for the years of hard work he’s undertaken to get to the position he’s in.
As I noted at the WSJ
The folk who are “sure” that our kids shall never get off Lifeboat Earth
…to Mars, Jupiter moons, Alpha Centauri, the rest of the galaxy, etc
think we should not “even try” and hunker down consuming less.
This lets China/Jinping, Putin/Russia, and their sock puppets N. Korea and Iran
run the table.
That is, in my view, very suboptimal, greedy behaviors by the “less than stellar” “bellybucking boys” and their indoctrinated minions,
…..demonstrating their blinkered vision, their myopia, and their lack of ability.
+2001
I like Polywell Fusion for space travel rockets. Fusion Rockets
My favourite starship drive is Project Orion. Simple, powerful, could have been built with 1950s technology.
Niven & Pournelle’s Book ‘Footfall’ – classic sci-fi – though I prefer the bangs take place outside Earth’s artmosphere – if only so we don’t upset the snowflake’s 😉
He he 🙂
but the folks who “make” sure turn NASA into a “new clientele” outreach program and try to kill rocket fuel.
Wiens is an ecologist. I wonder if he can actually point to any recent extinctions due to “climate change”, as opposed to local extirpations or just relocations, ie species simply changing locales to accommodate whatever climatic parameters actually have changed.
Would appreciate Jim Steele’s comments.
Yes, my first thought was to recall Landscapes and Cycles. There could easily be a human element but not climate change.
Most of the time, these aren’t actually species going extinct, just minor variations in colouration & patterning being labelled as new species.
“Look, professor, it has 1% longer legs than the normal ones. I think it’s a new species.”
“Ah, but there are rigourous tests that have to be followed.”
“But I was going to name it after you.”
“… Which I am sure will confirm it is actually a new species.”
Hivey
Nearly lost my monitor!
Drinking a s m a l l glass of red wine.
Plus shedloads!!
Auto
Impressed. And watching puppy do figure-of-eight round downstairs . . . .
There have actually been exactly zero documented climate extinctions. The Golden Toad of Costa Rica was actually tourism brought chitridiomycisis, a fungal disease. The white lemur od Australia is a variant of the brown and more have been sighted. The 5 striped blue tail skink of Hawaii was extirpation of an invasive species still thriving in its native Southeast Adai Island habitat. Did a full rundown as of 2014 in essay No Bodies. Also exposes deliberate IPCC WG2 deception.
Sounds authoritative, except there are no lemurs in Australia. Meh, Madagascar, Australia, same difference.
Ristvan means the white and brown lemuroid ringtail possums, as you may know.
There is at least a couple lemur in Australia
https://www.australiazoo.com.au/our-animals/mammals/lemurs/black-and-white-ruffed-lemur
It’s interesting to note that all species native to islands such as Hawaii were invasive at one time. The beloved Nene descended from a flock of Canada geese that were either disoriented or blown off course.
Aaah, the numpty class writ large. We support an equal number of raving loons in Australia, all living large on the public tit.
Being a SJW on one subject tends to extend to other subjects. In other words, yahoo airheads are consitent yahoo airheads 🙂
“The Arizona University scientist found that 47 per cent of almost 1000 species had suffered local extinctions linked to climate change, according to the Independent.” “Local extinctions”? Is that a new term? Is that like if we drain a pond we cause local extinction of all the aquatic life in the pond? People like this are going to have serious withdrawal problems when their AGW induced fantasies are exposed.
The correct term for “local extinction” is extirpation, but that applies only if the population dies out, not if it moves north or south, out of its previous range.
I wonder if that is a misprint.
Perhaps he really said, “1000% of 47 species.” If we are talking about ‘local extinctions’, then each locale counts as one. If there were 10 locations where 47 species disappeared that would be 1000% of 47 species. All of those could be nematodes because draining a swamp, for example: Washington, would easily kill off a lot of lower lifeforms once the trough is dry.
I think we should ask for clarifications.
Yes, a misprint. It should read “loco extinctions.”
Actually, every time ONE example of a species is killed, there is a local extinction of that species in the precise locality where it previously existed before. If I shoot a fox outside my hen-house, there is a lack of (1) fox at a specific point around the perimeter fence.
On the plus side, there is now an abundance of meat at that particular point, so a variety of scavenger species are less likely to go extinct…
oh noes – gas warfare on his crops, now?
this is not fake news- this is real news about real fakes.
It is getting harder and harder to tell the real fakes from the artificial ones.
My sister wrote tonight saying we live in a ‘post-truth world’.
True, that.
….but only if you listen to those who are nefarious enough to lie to everybody before the election (poster gal is HRC), and complain that there was a bunch of fake news (lies) after their lying didn’t win them the election.
At least you have to give that bunch (again, cue HRC) kudos for being consistent liars. However, the way they’re relying on propaganda is unprecedented!
Sounds like Wiens is a fake who just made some fake news. Where do loony tunes like this come from? And why does anyone listen to a single work he says?
RockyRoad
There’s that quote
“If the lety didn’y have double standards they’d have none at all”
“It’s made from solid plastic, so accept no cheap imitations.” – A TV comedy I watched once.
Clearly a man who has never had to try to deal with a persistent plague of mice.
Someone once said “Where are the bodies?”
Habeus corpus?
Or Hubris Corpus
He thinks, there he ought to be – or that’s what his theories and indoctrination keeps telling him!
Can someone please list those 470 species?
Then we could consider what could have been done to save those poor named creatures.
It could help the remaining 530 forms of life.
47% of THESE ‘almost’ 1000 species. OK then, what about the next 10,000 species or the next 100,000 species after that. (just how many species are there anyway?) What percent of this next set are extinct?
Ant then to the next point and to put it in perspective: How may species have gone extinct [and how certain are we of the number?] in all the time before man even existed (as a percent of the next 1000!) and WHY did they become extinct? And how could that possibly be mankind’s fault?
Perhaps the correct answer is that it is part of nature’s law (or plan if we like) that ALL species will eventually become extinct. At the end of a very very long period of time, the total percent of all species which ever existed that are still around and alive at that time is bound to be a very small number.
And, oh by the way – the dear professor doesn’t seem to identify the CAUSE of extinction [whacked on the head, starved, froze] of each of these species (all 470 of them) and even if he COULD do that the uncertainty of the cause has got to be very high.
My call on the professor’s work – FAKE NEWS!
M Courtney
No need to make a gaia out of nature. A species appears when it’s different enough from the previous generation to be noted, and goes extinct when in no longer reproduces sufficiently. That’s the sole cause. The Human race is probably one of the most likely to go extinct. We are too fragile, we can purposely change our habits, such as not reproducing enough children when we get sufficiently wealthy. Poor people have more kids, usually for economic reasons, whether it’s more help on the farm or more handouts. When people get wealthier the repro rate drops below the replacement level. The dearth applies from the richest down to the bottom of the middle class. Poor people even in wealthy countries are still having more than 2.1 children per mother on average.
A lot of species, including humans, went “locally extinct” when Krakatoa erupted.
There are only 1000 species in the world?
What a gasbag.
…he should volunteer to be a weather balloon.
From sandwich boards to professorship, I’m sure it’s just a fad.
Ahhh, that evoked a chuckle!
Thanks, mate.
Reality was invented to prevent bad things from being done to us by the wild imaginings of people like Professor John Wiens.
Humanism within the environmental community has become an oxymoron!
Unfortunately environmentalism (for most folks) never goes beyond the negative Human impacts on nature. It’s always been about stopping others from messing up “our” world. (No wonder the anti-humanist crowd wrestled greenpeace away from Patrick Moore and took over the Sierra Club too.)
Once the actual wanton polluters were rounded up, they had to go after an ever increasing expectation of remediation by the general population, so that the movement would not die out.
I would like to see environmentalism refocus upon the marvelous recuperative and reshaping abilities of nature, despite mankind’s unremarkable subduing of this planet.
I assume that Wiens 470 local extinctions can be provably traced to climate change and that climate change sufficient to kill them can be provably linked to humans. He talks about “local extinctions.” Sounds like local relocations.
Could be linked to undocumented humans roasting edible species over mesquite or local watering and asphalt in a desert environment. Both would be anthropogenic.
Since there hasn’t been any climate change outside natural variation, it would be interesting to see his list and how the non-changing climate was a factor.
What it sounds like is he’s an undisciplined intellectual slob you wouldn’t let wash a fuggin fleet vehicle.
Like every global warmer. The fact they say it might be real brands them as utter, intellectual failures.
Look at the reputations of every single human being who keeps insisting it all might be real. People mock them to their dimwit faces.
“He talks about “local extinctions.” Sounds like local relocations.”
With some populations, that could be a single wolf wandering from one mountain valley to another.
I think he means running over snakes …
Cut off his paycheque.
Bingo. Just more proof that Trump needs to slash Federal ‘science’ funding. That’ll cut billions from the deficit and starve the AGW propaganda machine.
Great comment Mark G. Seems like the loony left is awash in far too much money for nonsense projects.
It goes much deeper then just science funding.
The entire secondary education is driven by profit and pensions.
For example, students can get Pell Grants worth more then $5K per year.
Even if the student never shows up for class the college gets the money.
And the student is eligible to do it again the next year.
Also if a “student” is “going” to college with the Pell Grant they are can keep getting welfare.
Time to drain the swamp.
“Professor Wiens” is behaving like an emotional 9 year-old.
Am not!
Are too!
(We’ll settle this at recess before we come in for our naps.)
Too many words.
” “Professor Wiens” is behaving like a 9 year-old. ”
There; Fixed it.
g
“professor’ should be left out,
It should read
Wiens is a 9 year old.
There , George , really fixed it.
Dang it could have been even shorter,
Wiens is 9 years old.
Professor Whines more like it. Just look at their logo.
SILLIVM UNIVERSITVM ARIZONENUS.
MO of the looney left. Actually, seems more like a 4 year old.
“Local extinction” is an absurd phrase. If Joe changes jobs, should we say he was “work-place murdered?”
Why not? The current administration labelled the Fort Hood shooting as workplace violence.
One of many reasons the incoming administration is not like the current administration.
As an Arizona grad, Class of 1968, Wiens makes it easy to skip making alumni contributions.
Is he or thee the 1968 Grad. Was it in English composition ??
g
Very nearly got wine up my nose. LOL
I nearly got cocaine down my throat!
I very nearly missed the joke , but I get it now.
Syntax we abuse, when order we use
Which places the words as suspect to confuse.
Dr Wiens was only born in 1968 so your facts here are wrong. He coudn;t have been an Arizona grad class of 1968. But I haven’t noticed a lot of respect for facts in most of these comments here
Sounds like what we’ve heard before from these homicidal leftists, as:
“Every time someone dies as a result of floods in Bangladesh, an airline executive should be dragged out of his office and drowned.” -George Monbiot, UK Ecojournalist
“I’m prepared to keep an open mind and propose another stunt for climate sceptics – put your strong views to the test by exposing yourselves to high concentrations of either carbon dioxide or some other colourless, odourless gas – say, carbon monoxide.” -Jill Singer, Australian Ecojournalist
“An ecocatastrophe is taking place on earth…..discipline, prohibition, enforcement and oppression are the only solution.” -Pentti Linkola, Finish Ecologist
“The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.” -Christopher Manes, Earth First!
“prohibition”
Well. An opportunity for smugglers.
Calling Han Solo.
There is a very long list of these people that subscribe to eliminating the human race. I think they are aliens (real ones ) . I am grateful I’m not on that list. You just have to ask yourself who would benefit ? No human is crying over the elimination of small pox, or polio. Except for for the eco terrorist. Jacque Cousteau said he wished he come back as a virus and kill everybody off. Such nice people. To the professor, you first.
Wrong bloke I think.
IIRC that was Prince Phillip
Both may have expressed the same feelings about mankind.
Blaming airline executives for floods in Bangladesh is crazy. The entire country is build on a river delta. It already gets flooded every wet season, and that is before any global warming has happened.
Linkola (b. 1932) is an interesting case. He’s a retired fisherman and ornithologist, who was much revered and interviewed in 1980’s before the current red-green movement started. He was considered to be a philosopher on ecology and conservation, and later on he’s been a some kind of ugly mascott of green movement, which has been more and more eager to forget him.
For sure he’s crazy as hell. In addition to being documentedly and seriously depressed, he’s been described by Hänninen & Hänninen as “maybe the only public person in Finland openly supporting fascism and dictatorship”. Numerous details reveal his murderous thinking. Green movement has had difficulties in taking distance to Linkola, and MSM has been very very kind to him given his pro-terrorism attitude.
If you want to find a person who’d just kill people to “save nature”, Linkola is your choice. If you want to protect environment for your own good, Linkola is not your type.
Just more confirmatory evidence that Progressives suffer from psychoses and other mental illnesses.
Weins probably baked his brain too much in the Sonoran Desert sun.
It may be possible that the good perfesser has spent too much time in Biosphere 2. That greenhouse masquerading as an example of our planet would skew any ones mind.
I’m leaning more and more towards the hypothesis that CAGW belief is a side effect of dipsomania.
Professor Wiens is clearly missing the bigger issue, which I shall now reveal below:
CO2 Global Warming Skeptics Are Sexists
First, Earth is feminine, as evidenced by numerous belief systems and as demonstrated by the popular characterization, “Mother Earth”. Earth is a celestial body, and the “body” of this planet, thus, is the body of a woman. Moreover, the body of this planet is a pregnant woman constantly bearing the fruits of agriculture, as well as all life now existing or ever known to exist.
The Earth mother was born from a Big Bang, as science represents it, a time/space tunnel resembling … (well, you know), in which the seed of a singularity was fertilized in a cataclysmic cosmic orgasm. Mother Earth, then, was born of Mother Universe, and the atmosphere surrounding Her is Her skin. We humans, children of the Mother, should respect the boundaries of Her “skin”, and to do otherwise is to force our presence upon Her, committing a micro-raping of the atmosphere with each evil addition of our CO2, which, many times, belches out (how boy-like!) from phallic stacks, thrust into the atmosphere. CLEARLY, this is rape, because I say so, and anyone who thinks otherwise is most certainly (because I say so) an unsuspecting rapist of the Earth Mother, hence a sexist of the worst kind (i.e., a “mother f _ _ _ _ _”)
Second, as fossil-fuel industrial users of Her (Mother Earth’s) resources, we continually marginalize Her sanctity in the name of fulfilling our hungers, much as we satisfy our carnal urges without giving thought to the consequences or our actions. CO2 that spews from phallic stacks (like unwanted sperm flowing where it is not welcome) aids any and all who pursue this selfish quest. CO2 industrialization is obviously a male embodiment to take advantage of a feminine resource. CO2 global warming skeptics, therefore, are (by their very natures) exploiters of women, NOT caring to be considerate of the cosmic female body upon whose very survival they depend.
Third, by disabling the cosmic female body from evolving without continual, phallic-stack ravaging of her atmospheric flesh, we enslave Her as we would enslave any race. Consequently, CO2 global warming skeptics are racists, ESPECIALLY if they know that “consensus” science predicts Africa as the continent hardest hit by our phallic-stack, atmospheric-rape, CO2-belching ways.
So, please, Professor, stop your species-diversity plea, and get with the REAL program!
Yes, it is a religion. It is not a science.
Ah… Feminist Ecology. Goes hand-in-hand with Feminist Glaciology. Got it.
Maybe I went too far.
Be careful. Someone is likely cutting and pasting your comment into their “academic” paper. 😉 We may see a very familiar looking abstract in a few months…
Is this your only fetish ??
g
I guess I would tell him ‘what would you think if there was a country on the other side of the world that was releasing gas that was going to cause extinctions in our country, to hurt our crops and make people starve?’
“He would say, ‘tell me where it is and we’ll bomb them tomorrow’. Then I’d say, ‘this is what we’re doing to other countries because we are the big polluters’.”
Can he specify the gas which is causing this pollution? .CO 2 is carbon dioxide, a gas necessary for plant growth . Ecologists know that so he can’t logically mean that. So which gas is hurting crops and making people starve?
Perhaps he can elucidate this report. Did he actually say any of this or is it just poor ‘science’ reporting.
How do these dimwits get to be “professors”?
(Sigh.) Try to become a professor while not being like that.
The trouble with academia as a whole is not the overall concept of academia but that academia itself is startlingly shallow.
Heck, while attempting determining what truth is they managed (at great cost in time, trouble, and treasure) somehow to forget what true is.