Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Breitbart – As the Democrat blamestorm gathers, billionaire green entrepreneur Tom Steyer, whose reported $75 million of support made him one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors, has suggested that his team should be put in charge of future political campaigns, to avoid the disastrous mistakes of 2016.
Trump’s win has shattered the Democratic Party
The Democratic Party is in total shock following President-elect Donald Trump’s win, and it is preparing for an internal self-examination that will likely take years and reshape the party in order to make gains in 2018 and 2020.
As President Barack Obama stewards the transition of his administration, it is unclear who will emerge as the de-facto leader of the Democratic Party as it looks forward to tough midterm elections and an uncertain future in 2020.
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Top donors like billionaire investor Tom Steyer, who dropped an estimated $75 million on various races and ballot initiatives — much of it through his Super PAC, NextGen Climate Action — said his team is combing through voter data, trying to figure out its best course of action.
“We were both surprised and disappointed on Tuesday by the outcomes, and therefore we’re taking a look at what’s happened and trying to devise an effective plan,” Steyer said.
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“We thought we were going to be in the critical places, and in the places where we were we were effective. Where we weren’t was the problem,” Steyer said.
Steyer also suggested the Democrats were ineffective at turning out the older voters it needed in key states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, two states that have been reliably blue for most presidential elections.
He added: “Maybe they should have turned over the campaign to us. I think that what you’ll see is that the analysis of what happened is the Democratic base over 35-years-old did not show up in anything like the numbers that it did in ’08 and ’12. Millennials actually did show up, but the Democratic base, it turns out — it wasn’t the millennials, that was everyone’s concern.”
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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-win-democratic-party-2016-11
I understand Steyer’s position. Anyone who invests $75 million of their own money has a right to expect that money will be used effectively, to deliver the outcome they want.
Kind of fitting that a climate change nut won’t learn the lesson that you can’t predict the behavior of a chaotic system like a democracy, but wants to keep dumping more resources and effort into trying to control the process.
Steyer’s obviously a mental genius:
DUH.. Really!?
Unfortunately, they would have had any luck in the places they weren’t because the damage had already been done. Our leadership had already alarmed Dems and Repubs alike with Obamacare, Common Core, Dod-Frank, rampant spending, a blooming debt, shrinking military, abysmal foreign policy, extreme intrusions into our lives (transgenders in bathrooms, etc.), a almost stagnant economy, a fabricated, low unemployment rate, people dropping out of the work force, mushrooming entitlement programs and their related cost burdens. This is not to mention the multiple clear examples presented to us of Hillary’s lies and patently illegal acts. The FBI exonerated her for political reasons, but whee there is that much smoke around a politician for thirty years, you know there is fire. Many Dems are too trusting and believe the lies of the Main Street media, which plays right into the leadership’s hands.
The Hispanics also knew of all this and, with young black unemployment ranging from 25–50%, depending on the area, blacks were sick of all this as well.
Many Dems voted against Hillary and were also worried about a Supreme Court that would be so liberal that it would basically ignore the Constitution, which is a contract between the states—thus has to be taken literally as intended (making the Federalist Papers and other writings important, as it allows us to understand the writers’ intentions in the wording)—and not a living document that can be re-interpreted at will depending on one’s mood. We need to get back to the Constitution as a contract.
Taking into account that voter fraud was probably higher this year than in 2012, if fraudulent (all Rem) votes are deducted, then Trump also won the popular vote. Voting fraud was surely greater than 0.1% of the total. Hillary’s worst enemy was dis-satisfied members of her own party; there was no going back from the damage that had already been done by the current president.
Dems need to understand that the Democratic Party is not what their parents knew. The upper levels have been taken over by socialist/Communists, who have an agenda more radical than the average Dem. These elitists would like to think that maybe they just had pushed toward Communism too quickly and it would have worked is they had taken longer. However, the people would have eventually woken up anyhow and rebelled.
Socialism (and “democratic socialism” a la Bernie Sanders and does not exist) does not work as somebody has to make sure all resources are distributed properly to the people. That means a ruling class, elitists who have no intention of living in the poverty that they impose on the rest of people. This is the nature ofCommunism, basically socialism run by a gang, in the former USSR, the Communist Party.
That $75M would have bought memorable quantities of hookers and blow, to about the same result.
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving individual.
As my father would say …. “You have an incredible ability to state the obvious.”
@higley,
No, it’s not. It starts out “We the People of the United States.” It may discuss the powers of the states, but the writers were the People of the United States.
The Constitution is a social contract between the People and the federal government.
We’re a nation of laws (for you non-Americans, we’re a republic not a democracy, that’s what a republic is, a nation of laws not people. Ostensibly.) That’s why the term “outlaw” surfaced in the 19th C. It meant someone acting outside the laws of the United States of America as defined by that Constitution. As long as you were long-abiding and agreed to act within those laws for the general good of society with youor fellow citizens, you were protected by the Constitution.
You were obviously free not to accept that Constitutional structure, and act in ways contrary to the laws of this country, but you were then branded an “outlaw,” outside the law. If I remember correctly, shooting an outlaw was not a crime. And if an outlaw had ‘done you wrong’ and was captured, he became an indentured servant to you until the crime was paid off. And if you didn’t want the perp anywhere around you, there were holding places called jails to take care of the debt owed to you/society.
It’s even more fitting that the idiots are doubling down and doing more of exactly what got Trump elected.
He seems to conveniently forget that one of the Democrats key arguments against the Republicans is that the Republicans were supposed to be controlled by big money interests. Now this big monkey wants to control the Democrats with his own big money.
These people really need to digest a helping of Webster’s definition of “Hypocrisy” if they really want to know what happened. It is simply that in several key states, the Dems lost 2% of their votes to Gary Johnson, those Dems that simply couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton and her hypocrisy
The Libertarian Party has consistently received less than 1/2% of the vote
1996 they received 0.50%
2000 they received 0.36%
2004 they received 0.32%
2008 they received 0.46%
2012 they received 0.36%
But this year they received 3.22%, which is an additional 2.7% or a 644% increase. These voters are most likely Democrats that both didn’t want to vote for Trump but also couldn’t vote for Hillary and were just enough to give Trump the edge, and the win.
He forgot that you’re supposed to contribute to the Clinton Foundation if you want to get anything done!
Please, oh please, give Steyer the job and power. As long as he is in charge the far left will never win another major office…so long as elections are clean and honest. Steyer is a total nut case.
Bingo!
Actually, Steyer should be told to put-up or shut-up. He is perfectly free to take his turn and run just as Mr Trump did. I encourage him to do just that. Why should he be able to ‘buy’ a surrogate do do what he thinks needs to be done.
I think Steyer is positioning himself to run for something (Governor of California?). He ran ads on TV and radio earlier this year that didn’t seem to have any point other than getting his name into the public consciousness.
Maybe that’s his problem right there. We’re not a democracy. We’re a republic. Big diff.
We’re a combination of both – they aren’t antithetical.
“Anyone who invests $75 million of their own money has a right to expect that money will be used effectively, to deliver the outcome they want.”
Is it wrong to laugh?
I thought the outcome they wanted was economic paralysis, degrowth, and poverty for the USA. He’s not doing too bad on that.
Yeah, but he wanted MORE!!!
“mark4asp November 11, 2016 at 3:29 am
I thought the outcome they wanted was economic paralysis, degrowth, and poverty for the USA. He’s not doing too bad on that.”
I thought the outcome they wanted was economic paralysis, degrowth, and poverty for the WORLD for those that do not live in secure gated communities. He’s not doing too bad on that.
Fixed it for ya!
Sure. Neither the message nor the messenger is important. Just show enough ads on TV and people will vote that way.
I hope the keep this mindset. The money stimulates the economy but has little impact on results.
Sounds like the presidency is considered to be for sale. That’s not good.
Perhaps he has enough to stand for president himself instead so he knows where his money goes
It’s those old white men that are to blame. Old men used to be called village elders – the repository of sense and wisdom.
“those old white men”…..The racists?…… same thing in their heads I suspect.
There really is a kind of madness at work with all this…
It’s called white-lash!
The Alt-right holds Ferdinand Tönnies’ 1887 Gemeineschaft und Gesellschaft (tr 2001 Community and Civil Society) in high regard for differentiating between traditional community roles and those statutorily enforced.
If it happens, deep green media like The Guardian will no longer have an excuse for censoring my comments when I tell them who’s paying for the green movement.
Bring it on Tom.
@mark4asp – Ah! The Guardian. That paragon of quality reporting with the comments sections filled with un moderated left wing green meanies. God forbid we leave a right wing comment there, it’s gone faster than a leaf in a typhoon.
The same happens if you leave a left wing comment. Try quoting Marx (approvingly) or referring to the needs of manufacturing or primary industry workers…
That gets deleted just as quickly.
The Guardian exists in the Identity Politics bubble of middle class academia.
T Shirt for Tom. Essential for those on-shore breezes aboard mega yachts, even fossil fuelled ones.
will Breitbart then let me comment on green issues?
Don’t you have Tom Steyer’s billions to comment on green issues? Trouble is: all the babble of the green press is just babble, slogans, cliché. One might think that’s the point of the green press: drown out everyone else with their own noise: Slander, shout down, blackout, block. So now you have an entire movement, and that’s all they know. Good luck convincing the US rust belt to live in happy poverty when the green troops can’t put an idea forward. All they ever learnt was: shout down, blackout, block and slander.
What do I care what Breitbart have to say beyond their occasional exposé. I don’t think Breitbart pretends to be anything other than it is. Unlike The Guardian which has pretensions beyond its station.
Let me see if I have this straight. In your “mind”, Breitbart is the logical equivalent to the Guardian?
Please let Brietbart know how highly you think of him.
The Guardian is on the way out. Have you seen the pathetic and increasingly desperate attempts to recruit paying “members”?
Trump’s win, together with Republican balance of power in both houses of Congress means each of the 3 superpowers are all run by sceptical or agnostic governments – China, Russia and now the USA.
Suddenly what the UN or Europe dictates has become even less relevant.
Yep and Yepity yep!
Amen-but there is no time for resting on our laurels, the pushback will be intense and multi-faceted.
Beware the rage of the thoughtful man.
He does not wail or rage uselessly.
Nor does he stand helplessly , waiting for fate to determine his future.
Instead he quietly and methodically determines the best path to his objective..
And then like the steady,unstoppable force of the tides, grinds down everything in his way.
Thoughtful man? This latest rant does not support that conclusion.
I wouldn’t be so sure just the “white” Village Elders voted for Trump, how about we just say the Village Elders ?
And while we are on the subject, lets look at the failure of big data on Information Bias and Recency Bias failings. Too many “smart millennials” thinking a few formulas, data extracts, and fancy graphics are the basis for “disruption” and “insight”, or god help us “prediction”..
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11746678
Great website – great contributors – so refreshing to hear and read from folks who are not brain washed.
the Trump win that is being reported in NZ by TV, the media etc is to say the least so one sided it is sickening.
great to hear from black Americans in the video clip we need that message here in NZ
many here in NZ have had gutsful of the PC brigade spouting dogma that is to say the least a brainwashing disinformation dividing global agenda.
the green agenda is alive and well here also, a fraudulent system that is incrementally taking over the control of land use, particularly dairy, beef etc. the clean river agenda is one vehicle that is being used to further the slow but sure abolition of private property right.
many are asleep at the wheel while this green mist is blinding our nations future.
the utopian garbage we are being fed is unbelievable , but as with climate the science is settled – thanks Dr Tim Ball for standing for balance and holding this destroying agendas feet to the fire
You are so correct, Ross. The anti-Trump bias of TVNZ and the NZ Herald continues, with snide comments from most “reporters” who are almost in tears that their predicted outcome did not happen. Now post-election, as pre-election, contains items critical of Trump and rarely mentions the inept dishonest Democratic candidate. One of the main differences to me was the relative honesty of the Trump campaign fronted by someone who made his own money and backed himself, and the crooked Dems backed by massive donations to the Clinton Foundation from dubious sources who would have required payback in some form. Perhaps all of the paid advertising was ineffective, compared with all of the free publicity given to Trump by Hillary’s continual denigration of a man most of us knew only slightly but whom we came to admire for his dogged hard work and sensible policies – especially concerning CAGW.
Ross & Mike
If our supreme court justice Ginsburg stays with her first instinctvie response to a Trump win and she l moves to NZ, maybe you could help/direct her to a proper neighborhood where she could remain in her bubble….
Hello Ross,
I am a fellow Kiwi living in CHC and visited the US in August…its not just the anti Trump bias in the NZ press and TV that’s so awkward to watch but the unbelievable naive AGW “reporting” over the years. Unfortunately Greenpeace are well over represented in this country courtesy of the French in 85,
https://sites.google.com/site/nzchinatravels/andrew-jackson-and-donald-trump
The NZ Herald is not the only NZ Newspaper with editorials and articles that are frothing at the brain. If I hadn’t dropped my subscription to years ago, I’d have dropped it over their ranting bigotry.
This man’s position is not unusual if my black friends are any indication. Every single one has supported Trump for some or all of the following reasons – the job situation, unfettered illegal immigration, priority treatment for so-called “refugees,”.foreign policy in the Middle East – to name just a few. I can’t imagine the horror of black people when they realized that President Obama, whom they had joyfully supported, had pushed them back to the rear of the bus behind Muslims, illegal immigrants and Gaia (as one black friend put it). None of them were too enthused about that new race of folks, described by the MSM and the Democratic party as “blacks’nHispanics,” either. According to the pollsters, black support for Trump was in the single digits, but I believe that it was significantly more than that. Just my opinion, but I suspect that black voters “went PC” when asked whom they were supporting.
Here is another great breakdown of the results and more importantly the changes from last time
Thank you for this – Brilliant.
The demographics of the last election are very instructive to those who pay attention. By and large no one liked either candidate much. In a while, I expect that it will shown that these were to of the most disapproved of candidates in US history. What is revealing is that those who didn’t like Trump didn’t vote – they were pretty sure he would lose – so was he, if his speech in the wee hours is watched closely. He is pretty clearly staggered. The days of childish ranting is probably over for him for at least four years, there’s no “comeback” if you run a nation into the ground. Of course he still could lose control and pull a Khruschev with a shoe at some point.
Those who didn’t like Clinton DID vote. There were numerous conservative religious blogs posted the next morning that essentially asserted that the writers did not vote FOR Trump, but against Clinton. Some were openly schocked because they fully disapproved of Trump as a “sinner” as one put it. They wanted to register their disapproval in hopes that somebody looking at the numbers would notice. Well that is now certainly the case.
Women were sure that Clinton would win, and being confident she did not need their vote, they stayed home. Women that did vote, primarily voted for Clinton. The black American population mostly did not even bother to vote. The turnout was extremely low. Those that did vote did so overwhelmingly for Clinton. Hispanics mostly stayed home – those that did not, voted for Clinton. In essence, those who “wanted to send a message” – mostly older, mostly male, mostly religious, and mostly white elected Trump, and given the morning-after blogs, mostly by accident.
The obscene total amount of money spent on election campaigns apart, how on earth is one person allowed to chuck in that amount of money to a campaign?
It’s called “freedom.”
You’d need to do some real digging, unlike you have had to do if the Republicans had outspent the Democrats 2:1, but yes, in this case the D’s outspent the R’s 2:1. Will that change the D’s position of the role of money in politics? Doubtful. Pretty amazing, that even outspending 2:1 and with every major paper endorsing Hillary, she couldn’t win.
It never ceases to amaze me how liberals assume that everyone who isn’t them must be an idiot.
The very idea that voters could decide for themselves how to vote is completely foreign to them. When voters don’t vote as you want them to, you start inventing conspiracies or claim that they were brainwashed by hearing the other sides message too many times.
Of course your voters are immune to the evils of advertising.
Not sure where to post this.
First of all congratulations to Americans and God bless those who voted for freedom.
One thing which seems to have been overlooked is the part played by Wikileaks and Veritas.
Please keep Julian Assange in your thoughts and prayers.
assange, snowden, veritas – and a lot of other individuals ON THE INTERNET (including mr Watts) changed the equation.
not that everybody didn’t know about the evil – but that they finally spoke of it out loud so nobody could pretend they didn’t know.
Make America Great Again; nominate Edward Snowden and Julian Assange and WikiLeaks for the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Long after the candidates are forgotten, the lesson remembered will be the utter perfidy of the lamestream media. Their time is up. Done. Dun
“ON THE INTERNET”
I wonder how much of this populist revolt against the ruling elites (e.g. Trump and Brexit) is due to the availability of uncensored views on the Internet. Previously, we had to rely on the MSM for everything. Those who controlled the media controlled the message. We still received that message from the MSM about Trump and about Brexit and they still spouted the views of “experts”. However, the population was also separately informed via the Internet.
The same thing is happening in the climate domain and our host, among others, is doing a sterling job of making alternative views available.
On POTUS Trump’s “list” of things to do, ….. one (1) should be to grant a Presidential Pardon to Assange, Snowden and Veritas.
I still meet tons of people who question the mainstream media little more than they question the sports scores. The devil almost won this election!!
I still can’t put Snowden on a pedestal. The stuff he revealed has been a real goldmine for enemies of the United States. If I were to follow up, I’d probably find a couple of hundred deaths directly attributable to his breach of the public trust. He was a sledge hammer when a surgeon’s scalpel was the required tool.
Revealing the over-reach going on with domestic spying was a great service, but it is way overweighed by the very real damage he did to national security. I would have no problems pulling the trigger on his firing squad.
@ Owen in GA – November 11, 2016 at 5:51 pm
GIVE US A BREAK, …… Owen, ……. the real “information goldmine” was Hillary Clinton’s dastardly act of installing an un-protected basement Server which was “open access” to foreign governments and “hackers” from all over the world for nigh onto seven and a half (7 1/2) years, …… from 2009 until it was terminated.
And don’t forget, Snowden wasn’t hired by an NSA contractor until 2013, …… whereas Hillary’s Server (2009 to 2015) had been dishing-out “free” Classified and Top Secret info/data for the four (4) years prior to Snowden’s dastardly act …. and for 3 ½ more year after Snowden arrest warrant was issued.
Owen, how many thousands of deaths could you find directly attributable to Hillary’s breach of the public trust?
And would you also have no problems pulling the trigger on Hillary’s firing squad?
Can’t go with Snowden. He violated the trust put in him, and by all accounts did nothing within the agency he worked for to bring what he saw as illegal activities into the light. There are only two possible scenarios that led to his behavior: He did try to raise the issue, the agency looked into it (and they take these sort of things very seriously) and judged that he was wrong, and the program in question met the legal requirements set for it, and he rejected their decision and went rogue. The other scenario is that he was a mole, and used his position to gather information before running home to Russia, and used the “conscience-stricken citizen” role as cover.
If he really was interested only in whistleblowing, he could have taken the Daniel Ellsberg/Pentagon Papers route, and found a sympathetic senator or congressman (wouldn’t have been hard to do) to provide political backing. The fact that he ran straight to Russia removes all sympathy I might have had for his actions.
Which explains why the leftists want to turn over control of the internet to the UN. Got to eliminate any source of information that they don’t control.
Perhaps the presidential pardon being suggested for Hillary (which shouldn’t be required as she has done no wrong, according to her) should be transferred to the Edward Snowdens of the world
What is the point this article is making?
I believe that the Koch brothers funded 7 senate campaigns for Republicans…
So clearly it is not an issue when people with a stake in either green or fossil world fund campaigns
(and clearly Democrats need new campaign, yes?)
Intelligent people like Koch pick winners who want to improve the Country and the welfare of the populace. Demagogues and elites pick people who don’t really give a crap about the common folk and Lose when the public are given complete information and motives of candidates and a corrupt political Chicago type machine via WikiLeaks and others.
Democrats need to stop lying about everything including the faux benefits of renewable energy, 20 trillion Debt, security at the Border, etc. It is about integrity (coming from a registered Democrat) .
Griff, what is your point (besides the one on top of your head)? Is it that you don’t care to read and then think.
Steyer thinks it would be better if he had complete control of his contribution to the election process. Meaning that he wants complete control of the process.
Koch bros give to entities that promote good; they don’t directly control how the money is spent.
And, it is not the Dems campaign that is the problem … it is the ideas/proposals that can’t compete in the light of day (w/o lies, cheating, slander, bribery, etc.).
(and, shouldn’t you be out protesting … ya know, breaking windows and such)
Griffypoo!
How much did the Koch brothers spend each election campaign? Got any numbers?
Or, are you just dribbling what’s left of your brain?
How much did Steyer spend just the last few years? And Bloomberg, and quite a few other uber rich Democrat elites.
Now tell us how many thousands of dollars total the Koch Brothers donated, griffypoo.
Griffy, as you have shown time and time again, the relationship between reality and what you believe rarely, if ever exists.
First off, you whine and whine and whine, about billionaires contibuting Republican campaigns, yet remain silent when billionaires support candidates you like.
Secondly, there is a big difference between contributing and “funding”, one that is apparently beyond your limited mental capacities to understand.
“First of all congratulations to Americans and God bless those who voted for freedom.
One thing which seems to have been overlooked is the part played by Wikileaks and Veritas.”
So maybe Trump will now try and persuade Theresa May to let Julian Assange escape from UK without further ado.
That would be nice. It needs to be in tandem with him calling off the US Department of Injustice.
..Unfortunately for Steyer, Trump is going to outlaw political PACS when he drains the swamp, so that rich can no longer control elections in the U.S.A….FINALLY…!
So Trump agrees with the Democrats that freedom of speech is a bad thing.
I suspect the ‘older voters’ he is concerned about, finally realized just What buttered their bread- and it sure isn’t liberal thinking and policies.
The strategy was just to smear. I saw hundreds of Clinton ads here in Connecticut lambasting Trump. I kept wondering why. I thought maybe internal polls showed her losing in CT. Connecticut was never in doubt. Clearly the strategy was to make Trump toxic. Basically gutter politics,
I live in Ohio a true battleground State. Hillary had nothing positive to say about herself as we had to watch a Hillary commercial every commercial break and 99% of them were trashing Trump. Every blue moon she’d have something positive to say about herself in a commercial. Trump ads were basically non existent in Ohio, but when they came on they were mainly Pro Trump talking about where he wants to lead the Nation.
Same here in Michigan. The hypocrisy of many of the Clinton commercials ….. young children hearing Trump say the p*** word ….. got under my skin. First because the only reason children would hear this was through the news media and second because Jay Zs performance at the Clinton rally was far, far worse and much more likely to be heard by “the children”.
But all in all, I’m tired of hearing endless analysis and commentary. IT’S OVER. Let’s move on.
Democrat Politicians seeking to “win” an election will only talk about how bad, devious and dishonest the Republican candidate and/or the GOP is …….. and/or the dozens of things that they absolutely, positively “promise” that they are going to do for you if elected or re-elected.
Democrat Politicians seeking to “win” an election will never ever talk about or brag about what all the great n‘ wonderful things are that the Democrats have done to better the lives of the “middle class” and/or the “poor” people.
What is that man’s REAL agenda?
His real agenda – control and more money.
The Democrat party is already bought and paid for by billionaires this is just one of them being more overt about taking more control and enforcing globalism on the serfs..
The Ruling Parties are shattered. The prog-left to be replaced by Steyer-for-life DaDa. All Right. Alt-right. Alternative Right. Accept no cuckservatives, demand the real thing anti-progressives.
Steyer has a direct connection to Greenpeace USA and spent millions.
As the song goes ” Everybody wants to rule the world”
Then of course its sour grapes and Bad Loseritis – from the sort of people who might be left in charge of a teddy bear’s picnic but certainly not, The Whole Friggin World
The one thing that is now very clear is that progressives are intolerant of anyone who does not agree with their agenda, not only on the climate issue, as we all have seen, but in all facets of life. These younger people grew up playing computer games where one can hit the reset button if they start losing. They are finding out that there is no reset button in real life, you just learn to accept that things will not always go your way. Intelligent and successful people know how to move on and become better. It appears progressives cannot.
exactly Tom
We are all sick and tired of the riots, demonstrations, violence, safe places, and knock out games…..
So what do they do?….crank it up
…and prove to all of us how right we were….and exactly why Trump got elected
This was predicted in the Documentary The Changing Climate of Global Warming. Much of the film covered the politics of this issue and stated that the American People would have their say.
https://youtu.be/QowL2BiGK7o?t=37m17s
Thanks for posting this. I had started watching it previously then lost track of it.
We need a strong democratic Democrat party. It needs to learn its lesson and reform itself. Letting the elite and the back room boys continue to run the show guarantees years in the wilderness. Steyer should keep his hands off, otherwise he is likely to experience his own personal Vietnam.
Folks thought that, when all the angry old white men died, the Republican party would be done for. The trouble is that the ranks of the disenfranchised and disaffected continue to rise as young people find they can’t get good jobs in spite of their college degrees. On top of that, they are buried under their student loans.
I have some hope that Mr. Trump can reform the Republican party and that it will become the party of the people.
That would be a coup. Seems the gingerbreadman (DNC) is now inside the fox (Steyers).
They could run one of those up about the New York Times as well.
The big foreign donors want to do the same.
If true, this amounts to Steyer attempting a coup to replace Soros as the effective head of the Democrat party. Interesting times ahead.
It is becoming clear that the democrats are the party for oligarchic billionaires bent on imposing their control over the democratic party and America.
A Beautiful and Heartfelt Apology to Tom Steyer and others
(really, the best response of all to his remarks)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=254_1478778822
LOL
You fooled me. I thought it was going to be the: “At this point, what difference does it make?” video
🙂 I love it! Thank you.
Tom Steyer needs to understand that the American Electoral Process is NOT supposed to be controlled by a few “monied interests”. Additionally, the reason that the Democrats lost the election is completely, totally, without question, due to the flawed nature of their Candidate!
Not at all.
The reason was an insufficient number of properly reprogrammed electronic voting machines, absolutely.
They overestimated their strength, and correspondingly underestimated the number of machines needed for the win.
Dems in many urban areas have a frigging awesome ground game to get out the vote.
So awesome a ground game in fact that they can dig-up dead people and get them to vote.
If Trump rebuilds inner cities and infrastructure , gets people employed, particularly Af Americans and Latinos, rejuvenates abundant cheap energy for industry, changes all the things that moved industry out of America, ends the crazy, expensive, international money dump for the climate/marxbrothers, etc., Steyer may not live long enough to see a Democrat government. Like Maurice Strong, he may shuffle off to Benning or maybe even Brussels to live out the rest of his shattered pathetic life.
Dang “Beijing”.
My take on why the Dems got their butt handed to them is that enough people got fed up with being lied to.
And Hillary Rodham Clinton was the Biggest Liar of All.
Well, Tom Steyer just proved he can be as stupid as the next progressive “oligarchic billionaire” about the reality of this election.
However, Tom Steyer smothered California with political ads, all carefully letting us know exactly that he paid for the them. Tom is on the move and building his image. He does not appear to be a lurking malignant spider like Soros. Considering the clowns that have thrown their hats in so far, I think he could easily be our next governor if he decided this is the election cycle, Would this be his start at a go for the presidency?
And how is Tom Steyer going to provide jobs for the displaced industrial workers in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin?
Because that is what the road to the Presidency is going to require, for anyone.
(Hint – putting all the coal miners in Appalachia out of work ain’t gonna cut it)
I haven’t the slightest idea what Tom S has in mind beyond using the usual democrat election machine. And maybe not that since it got opened like a can of sardines by wiki-leaks and we all got to what is really in there.
I certainly won’t vote for him. As a newly retired Kalifornia republican I just want to get away from this state. Pretty much the only thing (besides inertia) keeping me here is my 93 year old pop, still independently living in Socal. I visited weekly and while the traffic is murder it’s still better than flying in from SLC
I have to needle Antony a little. The Silicon Valley Succession should go ahead, Take the Bay Area, drive a tentacle through Davis and Sacramento, and then carefully avoiding any Central Valley farming towns on the way,go up and grab Chico. Drive an easement down the coast but west and south of the Peninsula Ranges, all the way to the Mexican border. The rest of us will be perfectly happy to see that mess become another country. Some Northern Californians might feel left out but they are an independent breed and probably don’t won’t to be dominated by the bay area anyway.
“Anyone who invests $75 million of their own money has a right to expect that money will be used effectively, to deliver the outcome they want.”
Well, the idea is that Americans should have the best politicians money can buy, right?
Two dramatic changes would dramatically change things: ban electioneering and ban parties.
The illness on display is the result of having a ‘party system’. If all Representatives and Senators were independents, first, they could vote their conscience on all matters (also known as ‘democracy’), and second, they would not be beholding to vested interests leveraging through the ‘party elders’ or whatever they are called. The concept of perpetual conflict embedded in the government directed by people outside the government itself (party elders) is truly dangerous, principally because it allows wealthy groups to co-opt the entire system, leverage by leverage. Obviously the banks are most aware of this and use the knowledge effectively.
The electioneering is truly sicko stuff. “Vote for me because that person is a rat.” Why should people be restricted to choosing between a bunch of photogenic rats? The US is full of respectable people who are not of the ‘me-me-me’ kind. Let’s see some of them in positions of responsibility and power.
I admit to being surprised that 6m Americans voted for 3rd and 4th party candidates because the media pretends there were only two options – so compromised are they in their factional camps.
America, you can do better. The Demos retreating to camp to plan how to ‘take over’ is just a form of scheduled, legal, coup attempts. Perhaps it is time to consider giving up partocracy and trying democracy.
I don’t think that would work. Every politician would work back room, out of site deals that would result in the same thing only it would not be transparent. The only real solution is to place term limits on the members of Congress. Also get rid of the $300 million in election money Congress has bestowed on the two major parties that comes out of the Treasury.
Make senators direct appointees again and band funding for representatives that doesn’t come from individuals (not businesses, PACs, unions, trade groups, bundlers, etc.) living withing the district and who are not registered to vote in any other district.
Steyer thinks you live too large and is demanding that the government use its police powers to force you to reduce your carbon footprint. Meanwhile, Steyer’s primary home overlooks the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco — on each of its three stories. With an estimated value of $11.7 million, the home sits on a cliff with beautiful vistas, wrecking the area for all wildlife. He also has a second home in San Francisco for a total combined 11,000 square feet in the city. Add to that his humble, $8.5 million beach home in Marin County, his $2.6 million Sugar Bowl ski resort home in California and two homes at a Lake Tahoe ski resort, respectively valued at $15 million and a more modest $1.1 million. And last, but not least, Steyer owns a 2,000-acre California ranch — worth an estimated $23 to $50 million — where his wife keeps her show horses.
C’mon man. You know that some people are more equal than others.
Perhaps these pseudo-marxists should have the maxim popularised by Marx applied to them “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”. The loss of everything according to “progressive” theory and the receipt of , say 200$ per week might, just might, focus their minds on reality.
Its disconcerting that US presidential elections can be ‘bought’.
I know the US governmental system is based upon ancient Rome in so many respects, including the institutions and iconography, but did they have to copy Roman senators and emperors ‘buying’ their influence and therefore positions?
Romo-American iconography includes the spread eagle with stars, Lady Libertas (Liberty), and the fasc es (the bundle of rods symbolising judicial power). The Brits took the seated Britannia (the Greek Athena) from Greece and Rome, while the French took the Liberty cap (the phrygian cap).
The Roman Fasc es in the US House of Representatives.
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ralfellas:
That is a rather gross assumption and glosses over the truth.
The American Bald eagle was voted as the American symbol; over the objection of Benjamin Franklin who suggested the American wild turkey.
Greek philosopher and mathematicians’ knowledge was well learned by many of our founding fathers and subsequent Presidents, along with Roman expansions in architecture; possibly through Masonic education.
A number of the founding fathers were very well educated in types and histories of governments, which is evident in American government conflictions and oppositions.
Both in the power of people joined together and in states joined together;
And Ben Franklin’s famous quote:
For in unity there is great strength which is where the fasces symbol comes into bearing:
What a great idea. The corrupt DNC should put him in charge of the next campaign. Then the party will be even more on the outside looking in than they are now.
Steyer’s 75 million dollars wasn’t really an investment. It was a bet. But, he didn’t know it at the time. He did not put up seventy five mil because he’s a nice guy, or because he cares, or he’s an altruist, or he has beliefs. He’s a stinkin’ rich paper shuffler, that’s all. He expected his seventy five mil backing Hillary to be paid back handsomely in tax payer backed funding for otherwise risky high yield investments that he’d be right in on the inside track.
He didn’t realize that, unlike with politicians, there simply wasn’t enough money to buy the people. He was subjected to the hands of fate; to the roulette wheel. Trump had placed the bet so many times he had a better feel for where the rolling ball was going to drop on the wheel.
By now wanting to run the campaign Steyer is simply stating that he now realizes it was a bet and now wants wants to run the casino. The odds always favor the house.
Or, so he thinks.
Many of these high rollers have invested considerable amounts of money into renewable energy projects and companies. They are going to lose big money as a result of this. They all thought that the fix was in, and that there was no way for them to lose. Now it is bye bye for the 500 million installed solar panels which Hillary was going to force the US to install. Al Gore has considerable money tied up in the AGW cause. I would imagine that he was counting all of the money he was going to make in his dreams every night.
And the would-be dictators rear their ugly heads, showing their true colors. If nothing else, this election is poking some of the ‘real bad boys move in silence’ out into the daylight.
So Steyer’s “answer” to the large hole they’ve dug for themselves is – a bigger shovel!
Ba-hahahahahahaha!
Hey, I thoroughly agree with Tom!
Put this total political novice and his anonymous bureaucratic minions in charge of the socialist agenda. Yea, how hard can it be? What could possibly go wrong?
Memo to Tom & the minions: there is no “clean” end of the socialist political dog turd.
Oh well, George Soros is getting old, and the role of boogey man for the right needs to be filled (The Koch brothers are the same for the left). Steyer is the sort who one would expect only in really bad fiction like the James Bond series (Goldfinger, anyone?), as he seems to pick transparently bad politicians to fund. The Canadian greens at least picked someone cute as their boy.
Steyer is not a bogey man (nor is Soros since the truth is revealed in Wikileaks). Steyer is heavily invested in Indonesian Coal. He wants to get richer. So how do you drive up the price in a market you do not corner? Reduce the supply. And that is what his actions are all about. Killing the American Coal industry so his holdings shoot up.
It is not about any noble cause. It is simple greed.
Maybe it’s time for them to consider whether there’s something about smug self-righteousness, shouted from a position of high social status, that turns people away.
I’m not sure why everyone is so gleeful — it’s not like Donald Trump is the messiah or anything.
No matter how you shake it, Trump barely won. If he spends his time blowing apart agencies with petty revenge, we will be right back in the same spot next election when a Democrat wins.
We will be much better served if he focuses his energy on the economy.
Ummm, would you like some cheese to go with that whine ?? Trump is saving the great U.S. of A. from destroying itself from within…The fact that he stood solid against the bias liberal media, the corrupt liberal political machine and the pathetic Republican Rino’s in congress, and still won, is in itself, a miracle….God bless America,…
Considering a large part of our economic troubles comes from the mounds of red tape the administrative state piles on businesses, I would have to say blowing apart agencies IS focusing on the economy.
lorcanbonda
Gee. Crocodile tears for Federal agencies.
An uncomfortable number of those agencies (e.g.: IRS, Justice – remember the gun running?, State, EPA) have been involved in what appear to be illegal or fatally incompetent activities. It’s about time congress got back to their constitutional role of effective oversight.
Too bad for the snowflakes that work there…
Now call it the Tom Steyer Party, not the Democrat Party.
What disturbs me most is the indication that Mr. Steyer is abandoning even the appearance of influence as a donor for the reality of control over messages, actions, and events by and around his figurehead donation recipients. If he controls the campaign rather than just influencing and manipulating it, how much more likely will it be that he’ll control the newly elected official rather than “just” exercise influence and manipulation?
The rich libtards do not understand the little people and never will. They are totally incapable of ever being in the same place as us. Steyer is one such idiot. Carry on chucking your money away, idiot. A fool and his money are soon parted.
When you consider the speed with which Steyer went from making billions from Australian and Indo coal to warring against coal (after its price tanked)…well, he could give St Paul lessons in sudden conversions.
And no horses were injured in the production of his new convictions!
He has four years to ramp up the fake news machine.
Blame Canada!
Factoid… so far this millenium…
* When a Conservative Canadian prime minister is in office, a Democrat US president is elected.
* When a Liberal Canadian prime minister is in office, a Republican US president is elected.
Here’s the list of elections…
1997/06/02 Canada Liberal (Jean Chretien)
2000/11/07 USA Republican (George W Bush)
2000/11/27 Canada Liberal (Jean Chretien)
2004/06/28 Canada Liberal (Paul Martin)
2004/11/02 USA Republican (George W Bush)
2006/01/23 Canada Conservative (Stepeh Harper)
2008/10/14 Canada Conservative (Stepeh Harper)
2008/11/04 USA Democrat (Barack Obama)
2011/05/02 Canada Conservative (Stepeh Harper)
2012/11/06 USA Democrat (Barack Obama)
2015/10/19 Canada Liberal (Justin Trudeau)
2016/11/08 USA Republican (Donald Trump)
Up here in Canada we’re always hearing Democrats threatening to move Canada if the Republican gets elected, and Republicans threatening to move to Canada if the Democrat gets elected. If Trump wants to get re-elected in 2020, he should be nice to Trudeau, to help him get re-elected in 2019.
Well having personally succesfully gone through the Canadian immigration process, (albeit some time ago), I suspect its not that easy to change move permanently north of the border because of ones political views and outcomes at home.
Unless you happen to enjoy dual citizenship that is.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com
Before 1997, Ronald Reagan and H. Bush was in office so was Brian Mulroney a conservative. Good old days …. gosh, I am old. And it’s Stephen Harper not Stepheh
““We thought we were going to be in the critical places, and in the places where we were we were effective. Where we weren’t was the problem,” “
Maybe Mr Steyer needs a reasonable policy which benefits he people of America before he wastes his money again:)
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com
Climate change consistently ranks at or near the bottom of voter concerns. So if he wants to take over the party and push that narrative more epic losses at the polls are predictable.
Oh yes, please kill the out-of-date stereotype that the Democrats are the party of the working man, and the Republicans are the party of the plutocrats.
I am reminded of that line from the original Ghostbusters.
“Dr. Raymond Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn’t have to produce anything! You’ve never been out of college! You don’t know what it’s like out there! I’ve WORKED in the private sector. They expect *results*. “
That was also the movie that openly demonized the EPA.The writers were way ahead of their time on that one.
I trust the Democrats will continue to follow the Tom Steyer line. That should effectively keep them out of office until the message gets through that Americans want something else. Democracy means listening if you want to be elected. PC force-feeding is out.
+10
75 million. Goes to show you money pacs can’t vote but I can.
“We thought we were going to be in the critical places, and in the places where we were we were effective. Where we weren’t was the problem”
I suppose that would be the “Well, duh!” moment for Steyer?
I believe the take home message for Tom is Climate Activism is now a non-starter politically. Alarm fatigue has set in with the electorate and this issue doesn’t knock down the pins anymore. It’s been weighed, measured and found wanting.
What will he choose next to catheterize the electorate? Not global warming one would hope.