Guest essay by Eric Worrall
I watched the new Leonardo DiCaprio climate epic so you don’t have to. The following 5 minute summary will save you an hour and a half of your life which you will otherwise never get back.
Quite apart from DiCaprio racking up an impressive number of air miles, in my opinion the video contained nothing new or exciting. The scariest moment was President Obama insisting that the Paris agreement is only the beginning of the pain, but we kind of knew that anyway.
Dated content, tired rehashed conspiracies. The most likely prognosis is a rapid one way journey to the digital graveyard.
Pathetic intelligence-insulting propaganda! I shake my head that any real scientist (or actor) could think that this garbage speaks the truth!
Propaganda.
Even 90% of the peer-reviewed studies are the same. Propaganda.
Why? As Anthony said, Noble Cause Corruption; People need something to “believe in” (even it is not true -not based on fact); some of it is obviously profession-based (you always protect your income), and sometimes I think these people just want everyone to agree with their position (they don’t even care about the issue or carbon taxes or whatever, but they just “need” you to agree with them).
All common features of basic human nature. It is not always designed to push us toward the truth and the facts. .
I know this may be boring for many of you who are regulars, but look. If we (and I include myself in this camp) are just being bombarded by friends and relatives who see this new DiCaprio video and cannot stop wailing about what a pickle we’re in…where can we go to learn how to silence these doomsday predictors. What evidence can I use to show that the deniers are NOT all Koch brother operatives, and that legitimate scientists are NOT all in agreement. Where are the consensus papers with reputable people refusing to sign onto the hysteria. I’m not purposefully being lazy, but I think someone must have a comprehensive bibliography of writings that can put the controversy into proper perspective. Something weighty that I can plop down in front of my friend/relatives/acquaintances and and say…Read through this first!
I have been a scientist for 40 years. You have no clue what you are talking about. 95 % of all scientists believe climate change is enhanced by human activity. You are not educated enough to determine real science from junk science. Sad. You will be the first to feel the effects and that’s good.
You’re a scientist, and yet the first rebuttal you make is an appeal to authority? What’s YOUR education? Scientist of what?
And since we’re throwing around logical fallacies, I’m a chemical engineer, and practicing for +20 years. 100% of the chemical engineers I know believe that while CO2 can enhance warming (to the tune of 2-3W/m2) it’s not nearly enough to even be seen when the net heat flux on the planet is around 450 +/-15W/m2 (that’s smaller than the measurement error in case you missed that).
What makes chemical engineers special? Because we all had to grind through some, while horrible, intensive classes like fluid mechanics, heat and mass transfer, transport phenomena, physical chemistry, reaction engineering, process control, and chemical thermodynamics. Does any of that seem like it could be weather or climate related?
Have a look at the American Physics Association discussion on their Statement on Climate Change. Read about what prompted it. You’ll see that quite a few physicists and even Nobel Laureates quit the association when the statement said that it’s “incontrovertible” that AGM is happening. “Incontrovertible” is a word that no scientist uses.
I would love to feel the effects of a warming planet. And that’s the real crime. Can you point to ONE SUSTAINED and DETRIMENTAL change that’s a result of climate change? And we want to punish the least-fortunate people on the planet by jacking up the price of energy…so that “scientists” like you can feel good that we tried to keep the planet in relative stasis at an arbitrarily chosen point in time?
I used to be a warmer, until I spent the last 7 years looking at data. And if you’re a scientist, I hope that you have both curiosity and educational background to look at and understand the data. I’m sure you’ll come around too. I haven’t met any scientist yet that hasn’t changed their mind when confronted with data.
Shane vanderhoff writes: “I have been a scientist for 40 years…. Sad.”
How is it possible that a warmist can be detected by a single word? SAD. Why are scientists sad? That’s an emotion. Science has no emotions. It is what it is.
Being enhanced by human activity is not sufficient justification for anything.
Very few of those scientists believe that CO2 is anything to worry about, much less redesign the world’s economy over.
Thank you Shane, because that is validated by the science community. Disturbed by the ignorance in these posts
Doug, When I first started looking into “Global Warming” I read “Don’t Sell Your Coat”, by Harold Ambler. I thought it was pretty good.
It’s a pity he’s not campaigning for there to be a vote on what climate we want, or if we even want climate at all.
Was this flick funded with that allegedly tainted Malaysian money?
I managed to watch about 26 min. of the garbage. Full of Appeals to Emotion, and all of their favorite Warmunist myths which have been debunked repeatedly, including their favorite; that skeptics/climate realists (except they use their favorite smear term for) are bought and paid for by fossil fuel interests. Sickening.
Don’t forget about this one, a 2007 documentary film:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_11th_Hour_(film)
Some of the people interviewed for this film:
Stephen Hawking
David Suzuki
Bill McKibben
Mikhail Gorbachev
Etc.
I’m seeing already that the National Geographic TV channels are going to milk this (constantly airing it) until it’s teats turn to dust. Have no desire to see this ego inflating piece of c.r.ap.
You are a total idiot. This is the most important issue of our generation. I hope you’re don’t reproduce
You forgot /sarc
You are correct, the devastation caused by attempts to control a problem that never existed is the most important issue of our time.
After Leo’s breakout role in Titanic almost 20 years ago, where he ended up becoming a human Popsicle in the freezing North Atlantic water, you’d think he’d have a basic grasp of the fact that cold kills far more people than warm.
http://media.giphy.com/media/YE9A1qSEn0gV2/giphy.gif
A few weeks ago a Law Firm in the L.A. basin put out a press release that Leo was complying fully with the DOJ and European Agencies involved in the 1MDB money laundering fraud.
However, the money, likely in cash that Leo got, several 100s of millions in Dollar currency, but likely in a southeast Asian currency, were handed out to Bon Ki Moon, Barak Obama, John Kerry and other “Friends” of Leo, not to mention financing his movie the “Wolf Of Wall Street”. I have faith that the Law Firm will keep proceedings in play for a decade or two long enough for the cash to “melt away into the depths” and be forgotten.
Ja ja
Leo obviously needs his ego STROKED a lot. There is no such thing for him as too much ego stroking.
This movie was created to REMIND us of the knowledge we knew decades ago but did nothing to stop climate change. It was created to educate the public and show them how our government is rigged by big oil lobbyist.
It wasn’t meant to be an entertaining action movie. DiCaprio did his best to make a movement, when no one else is. The interent should be a positive place to facilitate change for our future, not for people to feel their personal opinion is important, misleading them from the truth.
‘DiCaprio did his best to make a movement’ – he certainly did! And damn but it is a STINKER!
1) The climate isn’t changing.
2) There’s no reason to stop it if it was.
3) I love the way fascists assume that the only reason why the government isn’t doing what they want is because of a conspiracy by people with money.
Might want to update the graphic. It depicts a learjet 85, program was cancelled last year about the same time as global warming
Thank you Eric.
Only, I didn’t really need you to watch the filth for me.
Unless, you have an ulterior plan in motion; such as, documenting all of the errors, half truths, sophistry and mob manipulation, (religious and psychological manipulation).
The Nat Geo group flooded many channels, (Nat Geo, Smithsonian, Animal Planet, Science, even the travel channel during automobile repair shows, etc.
Before I muted the commercials, I heard enough DiCaprio blather to nauseate me for the rest of the century.
And yes, the commercial trailers’ narrator, (DiCaprio?), was an incredibly pale echo of a David Attenborough. Lacking all credibility when pronouncing certain dooms, the narrator was less convincing than a muet penguin would’ve been.
Oddly concurrent with the DiCaprio’s eco song and dance, there were a lot of horrible shows on the Nat Geo, Smithsonian, Science channels regarding alleged creature, ice, ocean, air disasters and dooms.
I managed a few minute on one show that turned out to be Arctic and Polar Bear alleged specialists bemoaning the certain death of Arctic ice causing polar bear doom.
Obligatory shots of starving, yet darn chubby, bears. Lots of film showing the plentiful yet disappearing ice bergs.
Fortunately, I found episodes of ‘Car Fix’ and ‘All Girl Garage’; so I immediately swapped eco-loon sophistry for mechanical reality.
I personally find it hilarious that liberal “Eco-Terrorists” around the world put there faith in someone that thinks the Chinook Winds in Western Canada are caused by Man Made Glo.Bull Warming !! LOL
Last time I watched anything on NatGeo was a programme on Tiger sharks, which they claimed can grow as big as 25 ft. That’s when I turned off, and have never gone back..
Facts are not important to NatGeo, you’re better off watching the Sci Fi Channel.
Even Great Whites only reach 17 ft. or so.
I’ll be charitable and say that maybe the scriptwriter mixed up his tiger shark fact sheet with a whale shark fact sheet. 25 ft. is more in the alley of that docile filter-feeder.
I wonder if Arctic temperature are telling us something?
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
Does the warming have any impact on ice cover?
How long before we at last agree that ice cover in the Arctic is not recovering, indeed, far from it.
This may not be the first year with an “ice free” situation, but we are certainly headed towards the scenario in the next few years if the current trend continues. The science is not perfect and there is lots of exaggeration, but the observations are becoming more clear every year that ice cover is reducing. It will be interesting to see what effect the reduction on ice cover has on the weather in Northern Europe.
Oh, gee, the Arctic might get as ice-free as it was in the summers 6000 years ago, when the Earth was a degree or two C warmer than it is predicted to be by the end of this century.
Which didn’t destroy the world.
Which polar bears didn’t even take notice of.
Which means SQUAT to our future.
When the Ice vanished, Polar Bears don’t disappear, they go to land.
When the Ice vanished, Seals don’t disappear, they go to land.
Polar bears thrive on ice because Seals, their primary food source, rear their young on the ice.
Polar Bears will thrive on land in an Ice Free Arctic ocean because the Seals will also need to move to land to rear their young.
In a word, no. Arctic temperatures don’t tell us much, nor does sea ice extent, except that it has warmed some. Yeah, we knew that. “The ice is melting” makes for a great Warmist talking point though, because ice is something tangible. We can see it. Unfortunately, it’s a lagging indicator. It isn’t a “bellweather”, though Alarmists like to believe it is, and use it to gin up alarmism. It is also extremely variable, with factors like wind and currents affecting it far more than temperatures.
Gareth Phillips asks “How long before we at last agree that ice cover in the Arctic is not recovering”?
I predict July 17, 2017 will be the day we agree; but I am putting no money on that bet.
The problem is with your definitions. There is no we. What exactly constitutes “recovery”? What calendar year do you wish to establish as representing the exact proper amount of ice? C’mon, speak up, surely you have some sense of what constitutes “recovery”!
I see no reason to assume that the ice isn’t recovering.
The fact that the recent El Nino caused more ice to melt isn’t in the slightest bit unusual.
Nor are the lies being told about it.
wow this site and people on it. incredibly sad and pathetic. Your domain describes this entire community perfectly. Good job on branding and marketing.
ToonKing, inspecting self in mirror, says: “wow this site and people on it. incredibly sad and pathetic.”
Your judgement reveals more about you than me. I do not feel sad, most of the time anyway. I’m not looking forward to the next four years of the United States presidency but I don’t feel sad. That’s a leftwing, rightbrain phenomenon.
“Your domain describes this entire community perfectly.”
Quite right it does. I see DiCaprio complain about sea level rise and yet he builds this huge resort in Belize at current sea level. What’s up with that?
I see a new batch of Soros trolls have graduated.
Gareth,
The Arctic was – at least in summer – frequently ice free during the “Holocene Climatic Optimum”, some 6000-7000 years ago:
http://www.ngu.no/sciencepub/eng/pages/Whatsup_20_10_08.html
What is never mentioned in the media is that the sea ice around Antarctica did grow as fast as sea ice around the Arctic did decrease:
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
Only the last years there is a global drop, but it seems that there is something going wrong with the latest satellite data. Further, the extra huge EL Niño may have had a temporary effect…
I noticed that NatGeo chose that night to also premier the second season of “Years of Living Dangerously”. So it was a full night of this nonsense. I guess it was too much to ask someone to sit through the whole mind-numbing blarney and write reviews. But it would be nice to see a summary of errors or misstatements for the next time someone brings up these shows as proof of CAGW.
Actors are the worst zealots for any cause. They ‘pretend’ for a living and then have to pretend to be smarter than a pretender. Leonardo FullofCrapio is no different.
Climate Change has been happening for thousands if not millions of years. Accept it. This is just another avenue for bad actors to find ways to make money on the backs of others by fear mongering. Take Y2K for example remember 1999 as we move into 2000. Nothing happened. Some good if not great environmental stewardship is happening out there right now. But the fear mongers have taken over again by bad actors. Do your research people, educate yourself. Please understand this thou. The oilsands in Alberta ,Canada is the worlds largest environmental , reclamation cleanup project. Its cleaning up dirty dirt or sand in this case that has been on the surface for thousands/ millions of years. Do your research on the reclaimed areas of the oilsands. You’ll find it hard to believe that the oilsands were even there.
Don’t forget 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow
Climate Change HAS always happened, it is Climate Stagnation that has never happened
Brian “Take Y2K for example remember 1999 as we move into 2000. Nothing happened.”
Nothing happened because thousands of man-hours of programmer effort were expended to make sure nothing happened.
There’s a big difference in examples. Y2K was known to be a serious problem because of 2 digit years being used in many financial systems around the world, USA in particular. Your eligibility for Social Security Benefits, for instance, would be denied because your birthdate is 80 years in the future.
Within climate no similar sharp threshold exists; no moment when you go from happy to disaster, and no simple cause of all that disaster (two digit years).
What most people forget is that work on the Y2K problem did not start in the late 1990’s. It actually started back in 1970 when banks discovered the the programs they were using to calculate 30 year mortgages were giving really weird results.
Maybe the general public finally became aware of the issue in the last year or two of the 20th century, but the programming community had already been working on it for years.
Sigh.
Do they ever stop to ask why there was a layer of ice 1,000 feet thick over NYC about 20,000 years ago?
And,why did it melt?
Mastodon farts.
Leo could actually do some good for the world if he was the conduit to get the public discussions going about what is going on, or not going on, with the climate. Generating public support for policies that are going to lower quality of life unnecessarily is not helping the planet. Bringing leaders together to establish sensible transition plans away from fossil fuels makes sense but you have to have a sensible plan to do any good. The real threat to quality and length of life that needs attention is pollution, that is shortening lives now, but making energy more expensive is going to kill people also, so a sensible plan to move off fossil fuels has to take all that into account.
So are they really tired rehashed conspiracies? Or are they real???? How about some clarity.