Daily Kos Eschews Anthrax Basic Epidemiology, Embraces Climate Fear Mongering

Guest essay by Jim Steele

Director emeritus Sierra Nevada Field Campus, San Francisco State University and author of Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism


The Russian Anthrax story is an iconic example of how a dubious hypothesis goes viral in the media simply by blaming global warming. The original hypothesis imagined “global warming thawed a reindeer” but that hypothesis has already been discarded as ground zero for the outbreak has been narrowed to a private deer-breeding ranch, which is the typical location for Siberian anthrax breakouts. Nonetheless rabid alarmists blindly embraced warming from rising CO2 as the cause of the outbreak, and then went on a witch hunt against anyone offering a more common sense perspective.

The Daily Kos recently posted an article by Outonalimb (added: David C Petterson), (crafted with the help of the most dishonest professional skeptic-basher Slandering Sou (aka Miriam O’Brien), in which he attacked my WUWT essay correctly suggesting the termination of Russia’s vaccination program resulted in the Russian Anthrax outbreak. If the Daily Kos ever wants to be taken seriously by the general public, I suggest they never post such transparently dishonest and ill informed writings.

Incorrect Diagnoses Promote the Spread of Disease

Trying to justify their unwarranted torching strategy, the Kos’ essay starts with the standard skeptic-bashing tactic seen in every witch-hunt in which skeptics are denigrated as “climate science deniers and conspiracy theorists”. Oddly believing only he knows the real truth, Outonalimb continues with his typical “shoot the messenger” strategy writing, “Jim Steele is arguing that a recent outbreak of deadly anthrax in northern Russia was not caused in the way it was caused.” …. “Jim is not a Big Name Celebrity. He’s an occasional blogger at the conspiracy website WattsUpWithThat (WUWT), and he’s the author of a self-published book describing his personal journey from, oh never mind, it’s boring.”

Indeed it’s true I am not a big name and I have never pretended to be, nor cared to be. I am just another scientist honestly reporting on the evidence as I see it and hopefully expecting an honest discussion. Much of my understanding is based on 30 years of experience evaluating how regional climate change has affected wildlife. In my essays and my book I have constantly warned that uncritically blaming global warming for every problem only leads to bad diagnoses, incorrect remedies and thus failed environmental stewardship. Blaming global warming for the Yamal anthrax is just another example of such folly and easily proven to be nonsense. Such nonsense only detracts from finding realistic solutions required to deal with anthrax’s spread.

My essay reiterated my concerns by referencing a similar failed diagnosis for the spread of a novel disease that extirpated several frog species. I wrote, “Blaming global warming stalled efforts by amphibian experts trying to prevent the chytrid’s spread [the deadly fungus killing frogs], while inhibiting captive breeding efforts that could have saved many now extinct species. I can only hope that similar climate change paranoia does not prevent more scientific interventions by more realistic epidemiologists.”

Apparently Outonalimb does not comprehend the value of a correct diagnosis when it interferes with blaming climate change. So he blathered, “It’s hard to see if his [Jim Steele) purpose was to imply that “alarmists” care more about toads than about Zimbabweans, or if it was an excuse to include a link to his self-published book in which he has a passage devoted to this topic. No matter. In either case, it’s a distraction, included to help prime the pump for his readers to think “alarmists” are wrong, leading to a larger denial of global warming. After all, if they were wrong about toads, they’ve got to be wrong about reindeer, right?”

Indeed alarmists had uncritically and far too quickly embraced the idea that climate change was killing frogs and they were proven very wrong, but I never argued such past failures mean alarmists must also be wrong about anthrax. Each case must be evaluated on its own merits. Such past failures simply mean we damn well better scrutinize all claims if we want to reliably address the spread of deadly diseases. Unwittingly Outonalimb linked to an article in Science proving my point by illustrating just how easily bad science gets published.

His Science article had dramatically stated, “As humans pumped carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, Costa Rican rainforests became hotter and dryer in the mid-1980s. These conditions made the toad vulnerable to the chytrid fungus, which is thought to thrive in warmer, drier climes”.

But that was pure fabrication from the minds of those who link everything to CO2.

Epidemiologists had meticulously documented that warmer and drier climes kill the fungus, and thus warmer climes protected the frogs. It was frogs living in cooler and moister habitats that were suffering extirpations. The journal Science had published an article that was utterly wrong but blindly embraced, so that the “death by global warming” meme spread like a bad disease spread by Outonalimb and his ilk. Such blatantly wrong climate science echoes the concerns of the Lancet’s editor that maybe half of the peer-reviewed published medical data is wrong.

Only Vaccinations Can Prevent Infections from Ever Present Anthrax


In order to blame global warming for Siberian anthrax outbreaks, one must falsely believe, and only believe, that anthrax had been eliminated from the Siberian surface and relegated to deeper frozen permafrost. Once that incorrect assumption is embraced, it easily, but not realistically, follows that any recent warming trend must be unleashing anthrax from its frozen shackles and killing deer and people. With such a myopic view, rabid alarmists then argue CO2 warming has caused the deadly anthrax outbreak and attack all who disagree. The problem is their first assumption in the chain of delusional thoughts is totally wrong. And multiple lines of evidence reveal just how wrong such thinking is.

In contrast, if one understands that anthrax is still present in the permafrost’s active layer as it has always been, then it follows an anthrax infection could be acquired from wherever the active layer is disturbed. It wouldn’t matter if the permafrost was warming or not. The permafrost’s active layer is defined as the uppermost layer typically ranging from 1.5 to 4 meters (5 to 13 feet) of soil that naturally thaws each and every summer. In contrast to minus 50 F temperatures in the winter, summer temperatures throughout northern Russia warm to the 50s and 60s F from June through August causing a thaw each summer. Furthermore due to the meandering location of the summer jet stream, northern Russia is one of the 3 weather hotspots that normally experience high frequencies of the classic omega-blocking pattern that produces summer heat waves periodically driving temperatures into the 90s. During the summer thaw, anthrax spores secreted from infected animals or from infected corpses easily become integrated in the thawed active layer. But spores do not easily penetrate into solid permafrost, if ever.

As reported in the Siberian Times, “Due to the wide spread of anthrax in the past, almost the entire territory of Yamal district is dangerous in terms of anthrax,‘ said a report from the All-Russian Research Institute of Veterinary Virology and Microbiology, part of the Russian Agricultural Academy. The soil originally became infected because of numerous anthrax outbreaks, specifically in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.”

Indeed other researchers reported anthrax killed “1.5 million deer in Russian North between 1897 and 1925.” Those documented anthrax breakouts are undeniable evidence that anthrax spores had not been sequestered in the permafrost but resided close to the active layer’s surface. Clearly Siberian anthrax was prevalent long before climate change was ever an issue and before any worrisome warming.

The Siberian Times continued, “The spread of the disease among reindeer was caused by old soil disease spots, which melted as a result of abnormal heat”. Undoubtedly, prior outbreaks created soil hotspots. But to imply the soil had never thawed until the heat in the summer of 2016, simply does not make sense. If the soil had remained frozen since the late 1800s, the spores could only remain near the surface. In that case any thawing would allow spores to penetrate deeper and further away from the mouths of grazing animals. And if topsoils had been frozen solid since the late 1800s, it could never have supported the high concentrations of deer and cattle herds on the region’s breeding ranches.

Nonetheless Outonalimb tried to argue that the warm global average temperatures prove a CO2 causal connection. But clearly Outonalimb is not an ecologist. Organisms never react to a globally averaged statistic. Organisms only react to their local conditions.

Furthermore in regions neighboring Yamal, anthrax outbreaks had been happening every few years. Although a 2011 Russian Academy of Sciences paper expressed concern about future permafrost melting and releasing “zombie spores”, they also reported there had been many anthrax breakouts over the past 70 years, which is evidence anthrax spores had never been eradicated. Yearly outbreaks in northern Russia could only happen anthrax had never been sequestered in the permafrost. It had always remained prevalent near the surface.

RAS researchers reported, “Among all the Arctic territories of the Russian Federation, Yakutia has the greatest number of settlements, where outbreaks of anthrax have been registered in the past, which is explained by very intense breeding of reindeer and horses. Between 1906 and 2004, 270 settlements reported outbreaks of this disease. The greatest numbers of epizootic events were recorded in 1949, 1951, 1957, 1969, 1970, 1980, 1986-1988, and the last outbreak occurred in 1993. There were 21 casualties among the Yakutia population between 1949 and 1996 due to anthrax contracted mostly from cattle and reindeer.” Clearly those frequent anthrax outbreaks are strong evidence that anthrax has remained prevalent no matter how the climate changed.

Yakuita’s anthrax epidemics also serve as evidence that intensive deer breeding in Yamal was the trigger for outbreaks also observed in Yakutia. Due to high anthrax prevalence in the active layer, the consensus among epidemiologists over the past 70 years has always been that vaccinations were essential in order to suppress anthrax breakouts. Unfathomably in 2007 the government stopped vaccinations in Yamal. So in my essay I askedshould anyone be surprised by the re-emergence of anthrax back to pre-vaccination historical levels in the Yamal region?

Defending his blind belief in global warming, Outonalimb defensively shot back, “Yes they should be surprised. Infectious diseases are not caused by the absence of a vaccine. They are caused by the presence of a pathogen.” Well duh.

Clearly the Daily Kos and Outonalimb completely failed to understand the difference between disease eradication versus suppression due to vaccines (or vector control). Ever present pathogens create deadly disease. Vaccinations suppress deadly infections. Remove vaccinations and deadly infections resume. It should not be that hard to understand. But Outonalimb continued referring to the plague, polio and smallpox and falsely asserting “The point is, these diseases have been eradicated, as anthrax had been in Yamal.

But Outonalimb failed to do his homework. Only smallpox has been eradicated. Anthrax is still prevalent around the world and remained prevalent in all regions neighboring Yamal. His assertion anthrax had been eradicated was nothing but a speculative figment of his imagination. Furthermore the plague is far from eradicated, and polio still infects regions with poor sanitation. Those diseases have only been suppressed. In southwestern USA, ground squirrels carry plague. While backpacking I have encountered several campsites closed due to plague concerns. I had our field station surveyed for the plague and hanta virus to determine if precautions against infection needed to be taken to protect our campers. Globally, people are still vaccinated by the thousands to protect them from the plague. Polio is still prevalent world wide doctors in the USA recommend children get a series of 4 polio vaccinations and then a booster.

There are sound scientific reasons why most anthrax outbreaks in Yakutia and this one in Yamal occurred around settlements where intense deer or horse breeding take place. Highly concentrated populations of grazing animals chew plants down to their rootstocks and often uproot plants. Trampling and pawing of the soil by thousands of hooves further erodes the surface layer and exposes buried spores. Ingestion of a single spore by just one deer is all that is needed for that single anthrax spore to rapidly multiply into billions of bacteria. That one infected animal then spreads the disease over the pasture where high concentrations of deer (or horses or cattle) increase the probability of another animal becoming infected. In this manner the disease is rapidly amplified resulting in a full fledge epidemic. Eating contaminated meat or touching contaminated hides then infects people.


Although authorities claimed there had not been a case of anthrax in Yamal since 1941 the question remains was that due to eradication or suppression? The frequent and recent outbreaks in surrounding regions are proof eradication from the region never happened. Furthermore spores can remain viable in the ground for over 100 years. It would require a century of absence before eradication was ever plausible. In addition the latest anthrax research adds a new dimension to our understanding of how anthrax remains viable for even longer time periods. Typically anthrax bacteria multiply rapidly once inside a grazing animal. However when released back to the ground via secretions of infected animals or when the animal dies, anthrax numbers rapidly dwindle so only a small percentage of resting spores are detected. But researchers have now shown resting spores can grossly underestimate anthrax’s presence. It is now known that a variety of viruses (aka phages) can infect an anthrax bacterium, which then turns on variety of anthrax genes. Sometimes this results in anthrax producing a biofilm that cements them to the soil. At other times it allows anthrax to continue living in the gut of earthworms. Indeed it appears earthworms may harbor a very large reservoir of anthrax. Earthworms can survive in Siberian active layers but not in permafrost.

In Outonalimb’s screed he failed to notice, or failed to honestly report documented evidence that the lack of an anthrax outbreak since 1941 was due to its suppression via vaccinations. A new and improved vaccine “was widely used for vaccination of livestock during the period 1947–1960s and was associated with a significant reduction in both human and animal cases of anthrax in several areas of the former Soviet Union.”

Instead Outonalimb turned to dishonest quote-mining to obfuscate the vaccination issue writing, “Jim Steele’s first alternative explanation that has nothing to do with global warming is that the Yamal outbreak of anthrax was caused by the cessation, in 2007, of the program to vaccinate against the disease.” Outonalimb goes on “Amusingly, as evidence that climate change had nothing to do with it, Jim Steele links to this story from the website Russia Behind the Headlines (RBTH), which has the following legend on its opening graphic: “As global warming melts the permafrost, anthrax and other pathogens arise from their centuries-old slumber” Hmmmm. Maybe Jim Steele doesn’t look at the pages he links.”

But I was well aware that RBTH’s opening headline had suggested a climate connection. But such sensationalism is typical for many websites and journalists trying to attract readers by promoting climate catastrophes. RBTH provided no other connection with climate. More importantly was the article’s content. If Outonalimb had read further as I had, or perhaps if he was an honest person, he would have included RBTH’s very next headline quoting Russian officials:

Big Mistake: Russia has not maintained the system for mandatory deer vaccination that existed in the Soviet Union.”


RBTH then quoted Yamal’s governor Dmitry Kobylkin:

“A very serious mistake was made in 2007. Russia continued vaccinating the
neighboring regions, such as Yurga, Komi, and Nenets, but for some reason it was decided that Yamal, with the largest herds in the world, did not need to vaccinate its reindeer.”

So what was the logic of stopping vaccinations? If epidemiologists truly feared that global warming was unleashing frozen anthrax spores, would they not maintain vaccinations? Did Russian epidemiologists underestimate how prevalent anthrax spores were in the active layer of the permafrost? Or was it an economic decision to provide protection to a favored region and not the other? Whatever the case, Russian officials now realize their mistake and scientists and government officials are pushing for mandatory vaccinations to once again suppress anthrax infections and protect herds and people. The epidemiology principles are obvious. The reasons they had vaccinated deer and cattle and suppressed anthrax are the same principles that drove public schools in the USA to demand mandatory vaccinations against prevalent human diseases. But it would not surprise me that Outonalimb would also blame global warming for diseases in our schools

If Outonalimb’s opening personal attacks did not make it clear his intent was not to educate the public about the spread of disease, his subsequent comments undeniably revealed he was only writing to denigrate a scientist who is “not someone of any influence”. Trying to “shoot the messenger” Outonalimb suggested I was very ignorant writing, “Apparently Jim Steele doesn’t know that anthrax is caused by a bacteria.” But then just 2 paragraphs later Outonalimb exposes his dishonest sniping by quoting what I had written, “Anthrax is a bacterium that naturally lives in the soil. Overgrazing increases contact with the bacteria and contribute to outbreaks.”

Apparently Outonalimb is not aware of his own contradictions and lies, even if he writes them just minutes apart. So it should be no surprise he is oblivious to all the contradictory evidence that attributes the anthrax spread to climate change.

However I must admit I take great pride in knowing the validity of my arguments provoke alarmists to counter with their standard dishonest “shoot the messenger tactics”. I recently experienced similar attacks from the Australian Broadcasting Company regards my essay on coral resilience. Such attacks are usually mounted when alarmists fear the truth will undermine their catastrophic CO2 warming meme, even when the author lacks notoriety. Why else attack an “insignificant scientist” like myself?

Disturbing the Soil Brings Anthrax to the Surface

My second explanation in my WUWT essay provided examples of how ground disturbances bring anthrax living in the subsurface closer to the surface and increase the probability of contact with grazing animals. I mentioned floods, droughts and overgrazing, but there are many other mechanisms. I failed to mention the extensive oil exploration in the Yamal region had also disturbed the soil. Elsewhere the tilling of the soil had brought spores to the surface, which resulted in a spike in Russian anthrax outbreak in 1990s. Outonalimb appears not to understand people do not till frozen permafrost. People till soil layers that thaw every year and support plant growth. Outbreaks due to tilling are yet another example demonstrating anthrax is still abundant in the active layer and released by disturbances.

But Outonalimb never got past RBTH’s tabloid headlines implicating global warming. If he had read further or honestly reported the whole article, he would have seen the next heading “Pastures of Death” under which scientists were bemoaning the effects of overgrazing writing, “The excess reindeer population is another problem. More than 700,000 reindeer live in the Yamal region – 44 percent of Russia’s total herd. Scientists say that the region’s pastures are big enough only for 100-150,000 animals.”

But when one’s climate change blinkers make you to believe that only melting permafrost is releasing hypothetical “eradicated anthrax”, then important remedies like vaccinations and reducing soil disturbances by limiting overgrazing will seem like a “non-sequitor”.

Outonallimb naively conceded, “While it is possible for reindeer to contract anthrax from vegetation deeply rooted in the ground (as happened in the Canadian outbreak), we’d only expect that if the ground thawed. The ground would only sufficiently thaw in Yamal if it got way warm due to global warming.” Does Outonalimb not understand there is an active layer that thaws each year. Where is his evidence that Yamal’s active layer cannot thaw after 3 months of 50 to 70 F degree summer temperatures?

Amusingly Outonalimb’s ugly screed was driven solely by obsession with global warming, his inability to differentiate between disease eradication and suppression, by his ignorance of seasonal thawing and by his inability to distinguish natural summer thaws from global warming. So we must wonder why the Daily Kos publishes such woefully ignorant essays.


Jim Steele is author of Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism


60 thoughts on “Daily Kos Eschews Anthrax Basic Epidemiology, Embraces Climate Fear Mongering

  1. and he’s the author of a self-published book describing his personal journey from, oh never mind, it’s boring.”

    Well apparently it is sufficiently interesting to be worth censoring.

    • “Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism”

      Now we would not want to shine a light on stories about an environmentalists going over to the dark side would we. Far too “boring”.

  2. Thanks Jim,

    I’m convinced that Sou and Outonalimb are lost causes, off in nutter land, because that’s the only thing that seems to explain the sort of behavior we are seeing when you choose an unproven theory of cause, over the clear threat of stopping vaccinations.

    These two wear “stupid” as some sort of banner of pride. It’s just mind boggling.

  3. So we must wonder why the Daily Kos publishes such woefully ignorant essays.

    Probably because it makes better click-bate than boring old shit like truthful reporting. That’s soooo 20th century.

    • As long as the Alarmism requires more government intervention, rather than sounding the alarm on how much people’s lives are threatened BY said intervention.

  4. Good article, but the Daily Kos is not alone in hysteria in supporting global warming. The New York Times ran a series of letters last weekend decrying Sea Level Rise, when the best evidence is that the predicted rise is hundreds to thousands of years away.

  5. What these fools don’t realise, in their desperate attempts to maintain the melting reindeer hypothesis, is that if that were the case it would prove that the region was just as warm in 1940 at time of the previous outbreak as it is today.

    Making the current warming within natural variation.

  6. It has come to my attention that Outonalimb is a software analyst for Simacor named Dave Petterson. He has no background in climate science, environmental science, biology or ecology. Yet he was invited by the moderator of LInkedIn’s Environmental Consultants Forum to patrol the forum and attack any skeptics. He and Dan MacDonald,another dishonest alarmist on the forum work with Miriam Obrien aka Slandering Sou to disrupt and deflect scientific discussion by relentlessly launching personal attacks.

  7. As author indicated, anthrax in the environment is not just about spores settling out from carcases. For more related to allusions of worm zoonotic potential, phage & biofilm see this (2009) full free html text: “The secret life of the anthrax agent Bacillus anthracis: bacteriophage-mediated ecological adaptations”, by Schuch & Fischetti = journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0006532

  8. There was an anthrax outbreak in Santa Clara County California about 20 years back (after decades of absence). It was pegged to a few too many cattle making bare dirt that dried out and made dust containing very old spores…

    Density of cattle and dust matter more than warming.

    BTW, Santa Clara has nearly ideal climate. Hardly ever too hot (I didn’t use any AC this summer). Warming, it isn’t.

    Anthrax was called Wool Sorters Disease in my high school bio class. In farm country you learn about local threats in both scientific and common names. Part of the reason being too much sheep density leading to dust in the wool and sheeps noses… Now there is far less anthrax risk than then. By the reasoning of “out (of it) onalimb”, global average temperature must have plummeted since 1950…

    The mistake is to ever expect an honest evaluation of facts leading to truth when you are really dealing with a propaganda operation pushing an agenda. Sou and Outofit are happy to get a 5% bump from True Believers knowing full well they will never check the facts so their followers will never call them on it (or care). Their world is not about facts and truth, but perception and feelings. Arguing facts to propaganda is bringing a calculator to a knife fight…

    • you are really dealing with a propaganda operation pushing an agenda

      And those words sum up the whole ridiculous money-wasting ClimateChange™ fear mongering.

    • ” In farm country you learn about local threats in both scientific and common names. ”
      I learned about anthrax from Hud.

  9. Jim, It is the silly season of USA politics. Fear mongering, the hallmark of democrat tactics. A climate of fear is required to make people more reliant on government and less reliant on themselves.

    FEAR!!!!!! The socialist saviors will take your FEARS away.

    • Paul, don’t kid yourself that any party that you are going to be allowed to vote for works any differently. Cheering on one team is just like supporting a football team. Whoever you chose to support, don’t loose sight of the fact that they’re all playing football.

      • One name….Saul Alinsky …I am referring to him, his tactics, his party. I did not cheer on one team, Rather I denigrated one team that has a penchant for politics of division and hate mongering. That being said… there is no moral equivalence between parties and it is entirely appropriate to cheer on one’s team. But as I said, I never did. Just.. read what I said.

  10. Outonallimb naively conceded, “While it is possible for reindeer to contract anthrax from vegetation deeply rooted in the ground (as happened in the Canadian outbreak), we’d only expect that if the ground thawed.”

    Has anyone checked to see if deeply rooted vegetation has been a common occurrence in the Yamal district before this year? It seems to me that the presence of deep roots in the past would prove that the ground had thawed; otherwise, the roots could not have penetrated that deep into the frozen ground.

  11. Thank you for an excellent summary and demonstration that rational thought, scientific method and honesty are far preferable to emotive propaganda. As an Infectious Disease specialist and sometimes advisor on anthrax risks to humans I can only endorse your analysis and the failure of the usual suspects to make any cogent point worth repeating. I have only pity for those who try to base their reputation on deception and a underdeveloped capacity for rational thought.

  12. You are a scientist Jim. Daily Kos is a tribal rag. Your articles are always balanced and well reasoned. They do not deal in that.

    btw friends…. I posted earlier that I would not be voting the top of the ticket this year. That has changed. Took me a minute to get there.

    • Ristvan, this is another excellent example for the next edition of your book! (For those who don’t know, “Blowing Smoke: Essays on Energy and Climate” is probably the best single collection of exposes of nonsense by the climate catastrophists/lysenkowists/warmunists (the latter Ristvan’s term). Must reading.

  13. Jim Steele wrote in the article (bold mine):

    Organisms never react to a globally averaged statistic. Organisms only react to their local conditions.


    Roger Pielke Sr. has often pointed out that climate models have no skill on a regional basis, let alone on a global basis. The Global Average Temperature is a worthless measure of how any particular species will be affected by a statistical change in the GAT.

  14. Very informative article, I would make one minor suggestion though. This sentence should be rephrased … …”…in which he attacked my WUWT essay correctly suggesting the termination of Russia’s vaccination program resulted in…”. That sentence suggests that the nutbags made the correct suggestion. I would change that to “….he attacked my WUWT essay ‘which correctly suggested’…”. That implies that your essay “correctly suggested..”, and that the nutbags are truly nutbags.

  15. “The excess reindeer population is another problem. More than 700,000 reindeer live in the Yamal region – 44 percent of Russia’s total herd. Scientists say that the region’s pastures are big enough only for 100-150,000 animals.”
    It would seem that the herd has boomed due to the warming of the area.
    The locals say a quarter of a million reindeer have been vaccinated last year, which, compared to the numbers, cannot limit the spread of disease in closely packed herds.
    Its a bit like flu vaccination,. if a respiratory disease can’t find a host, it dies.
    Vaccinate enough people against the current form of disease and it stops in its tracks.
    The comments show sense in that a question is asked

    ‘Curious as to why the “infected” deceased creatures were buries in the ground? Does this or will this not promote the bacteria in the ground growth and plant life as a hybrid? And, as indicated, it has not been confirmed this particular bacteria has been confirmed as the culprit, yet the information is crucial to all the world as this bacteria travels via spores.’
    Diagnosis in the Anthrax belt in Australia requires a mask, gloves and a pair of scissors to snip off the ear of cattle for examination of Anthrax organisms.
    The body is best burned to ashes to destroy the spores. Burial at least delays the infection.
    From the photos the Yamal ‘pasture’ has been denuded to nothing by the deer.
    When they do that they are in close contact with the anthrax filled soil, as they rip up the roots to eat them.
    There is no firewood around and the possibility of burying hundreds of thousands of deer would be out of the question.
    A hot spell and moderate thawing added to the mix means the epidemiological bad management time bomb went off.
    From a distance the management problem is to reduce the herd to sustainable portions and start fencing areas so they can be quarantined.
    Ring vaccinate against anthrax.While you are at it do a few more Clostridial diseases.
    Stop all stock movements when an outbreak occurs and get early diagnosis on sporadic deaths.
    In Australia we have been dealing with this for a hundred years

    Arguing that its all caused by climate change dooms the poor to continuing dysfunctional management practices for their flocks and herds.
    It also emboldens governments to fail in their duty to educate farmers and provide veterinary and agricultural assistance, by scapegoating climate.
    Its a paradox that Russian scientists don’t believe in CAGW.
    The outcome is that both animals and people suffer while pundits make news.

  16. The Daily KOS readership, whoever they are, will never see your protestations. Their mind is made up. Concentrate on places where people might still have a halfway open mind.

    • Comments were apparently closed a scant two days after the article’s appearance. I don’t know if that’s Daily Kos’ standard M.O., but is seems a wee bit hasty to me. Maybe the very mild disagreement by some commentators caused a panic.

  17. The Daily Kos is an “alt-left” rag that is so bogus as to be laughable. They’re from far left field, and way out there.

  18. Kos is fun to read just to see how pathetic these people are. There’s some intelligent discussion but it always gets hijacked by some loon. Take the self styled intellectual David Petterson. While you can’t judge a book by its cover, You can look at his FB page and see that he ‘studied’ at community college, believes/likes Skeptical Science, likes everything about zombies and he has a pet lizard. Sorry but that’s four strikes to me when it comes to scientific cred. People like him like to think they are intellectually equal to actual scientists but since they have nowhere near the intellectual or scientific firepower to actually debate they resort to personal attacks and links to Skeptical Science type propaganda sites. At least we share our love of Star Trek. Live Long in Phosphorous, you dumb ass.

    • chilemike …

      Excellent comment … especially the last two sentences. Made me laugh out loud!

      The hypocrisy of AGW alarmists is breathtaking. This clown is taken seriously even though he’s quite up front about his lack of credentials … studied at community college! While dissing a life-long credentialed scientist and ecologist, who has actually accomplished improvements to ecological landscapes. Not to mention, when a skeptic disagrees with them, they dismiss us as not being climate scientists. It’s one of the first things I noticed when I started following this issue … any idiot can agree with alarmism, but no skeptic has enough qualifications to disagree, including Nobel prize winning PhD’s.

  19. There is an extensive Russian scientific literature referring to anthrax outbreaks from thawing frozen victims of previous outbreaks…

    This is certainly a real occurrence in Siberia – e.g. this 2003 article mentions it

    I can’t find any attribution to reindeer farms – I did find this recent article which again quotes Russian disease experts directly on old burials being the source:

    This is down to melting permafrost thawing previous victims of anthrax, no doubt about it.

    • Griff, Suspiciously doesnt support your claims and your first link says nothing about frozen permafrost and thawing bodies. This is a typical dishonest rebuttal that Dave Petterson is known for. What your first link definitely says, there was an anthrax case in 2003, again supporting the conclusion anthrax had never been eradicated. As has been written here anthrax spores are abundant in the active layer of the permafrost. Thaws every year and sloppy disposal from past epidemics has only aggravated the problem. Past epidemics were due to disturbance of the soil.

      Why have the Russian epidemiologists switched to burnin infected bodies long before this Yamal outbreak? Because they have witnessed sloppy burials in the active layer that thaws every summer. Your link reported

      “Volgograd’s regional administration says their territory is home to at least 1,500 anthrax sites, many neglected because exact locations are known for just a few

      Before 1948, infected carcasses were not cremated, as is practice now. Since then, landscapes have changed and settlements knowing of many sites have disappeared. The spores, meanwhile, have a lifetime of up to 500 years even underground. Neglected sites are as deadly as decades ago.”

    • Strike 2: Your second link to the tabloid paper Daily Mirror with headlines blaming permafrost thawing was actually contradicted by what the scientistssaid:

      Due to high level of infection in the past “almost the entire territory of Yamal district is dangerous in terms of anthrax.”

      Scientists conclude that deadly bacteria are spread in the territory’s soil, meaning that the danger is not simply from thawing 19th and 20th century burial sites of cattle and humans infected in earlier outbreaks.

      It is laughable that your claim of “extensive literature” documenting thawing as the cause of anthrax breakouts is not supported by your first link and contradicted in your 2nd.

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