Interview with Business World Columnist Holman Jenkins Jr. of the Wall Street Journal on how #ExxonKnew “is completely unraveling.”
Host: “It’s an attack on Big Oil and on free speech. Here to tell us about it is our columnist Holman Jenkins Jr, I should say. Holman, great to have you on Opinion Journal. Mary Kissle is out today, but we are fortunate to have you. We’ve been tracking this amazing series of events with the state Attorneys General demanding documents and files on pretty much anybody who has had a dissenting opinion on global warming, and has had some communication with the oil companies or think tanks that also share some skepticism. Leading the fight has been New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. What’s the latest on this Holman?”
Holman Jenkins Jr.: “Well the latest is that his campaign is completely unraveling. First of all, it was a phony-bologna case to begin with, that Exxon had done these studies in the 70s on climate change and then lied to the public about what it had found. It didn’t. It published these studies in journals and made them available to everybody and they’ve been available ever since, so there was no mystery here.
But the other this is that Eric Schneiderman claimed he had assembled 17 Attorneys General – all the Democratic Attorneys General in the state, in the US – to follow this case with him, and it’s increasing clear that that was just a lie. He committed his own fraud. Massachusetts and the U.S. Virgin Islands signed on for a while, but now they’ve melted away. California claimed it was going to launch an investigation and it never did. The rest never signed up at all. I mean we have these private lawsuits that have now brought out all these private emails, like ones between the Iowa Attorney General’s staff saying that Schneiderman himself was the wildcard and that they didn’t want to participate in this charade.”
Host: “And of charade, and speaking of the credibility of this whole process, we should remind people – and correct me if I am wrong – these were non-judicial subpoenas that [uh], a non-judicial subpoena that Eric Schneiderman sent to Exxon. In other words, no judge, no court ever sanctioned this ‘phishing expedition’ into the views of people within and outside of these companies.”
Holman Jenkins Jr.: “That’s right. And in fact, the most far reaching was issued by a very lightweight Attorney General office in the U.S. Virgin Islands, which went after all these think tanks, all these groups marginally connected to Exxon, or who had voiced skepticism about mainstream climate science claims. That subpoena has now been withdrawn, and the Virgin Islands has basically disappeared from this whole enterprise as well. So Schneiderman is left standing there alone, and now he’s basically abandoned the whole thrust of this investigation and turned to a new thing he invented just to, sort of, run out the clock until his term ends in 2018.”
Host: “Holman, as you mentioned, going back to where this began – allegedly searching for evidence that Exxon and others that they knew supported, were skeptical, or were misleading people about climate science. As you point out, not has Exxon published a lot of research, but have also been putting in their disclosures to investors for years warnings about the potential impact of climate change. Where does, where does he go from here? And does it tell us anything that the political coalition for climate change is pursuing this kind of path instead of, for example, persuading people about the science of climate.”
Holman Jenkins Jr.: “Yeah, that’s one of the sad things about this. Remember that is all kicked off when this website, Inside Climate News and the Los Angeles Times, independently produced supposedly investigative reports exposing Exxon’s completely public and open research into climate science in the 70s and early 80s. It turns out both of those efforts were funded by Rockefeller Foundation, a group, an NGO, which also, along with other NGOs, simultaneously conferring with Attorney General Schneiderman about how to gin-up lawsuits based on these reports. So the reports were pretty bogus, because as we said Exxon hid nothing from anybody, but also there is this deeply conspiratorial and suspicious coordination between the media and Attorney General Schneiderman via these NGOs. So that’s another sign, I mean these are the environmentalist activist groups, and that’s another sign that they’ve just given up hope on anything except vilifying people who don’t agree with them.”
Host: “Yeah, just to underline the really shoddy reporting, there were moments in that series where, for example, it would quote an Exxon scientist saying, you know, ‘many or some scientists believe that climate change is happening due to man, and it’s [a] dire problem.’ And then pretending the person was misleading the rest of the world, while they said this internally. And then what they didn’t quote was the next line would be, ‘but I don’t believe it and here’s why I don’t think it’s happening.’ So they just [uh], really just an amazing campaign of distortion. But anyway, we will keep following it and we know you will to. Thanks for joining us Holman.”
VIDEO: http://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-journal-attacking-big-oil/E7F0FDC1-2C51-4A80-AE01-568FD74B26FB.html
h/t to Matt Dempsey
So it was a photo op with Al Gore experience. Nothing ventured, nothing gained….except more donations….from the photo op alone.
There must be some semblance of accountability, exacted. My own doltish U.S. Senator, Whitehouse (Dem. RI), is a cheer leader for this gaggle.
Schneiderman should be disbarred along with the USVI AG for their abusive use of their offical powers.
It is part of a larger systemic pattern now within the Democratic Party where ethics have been abandoned at all levels, from the President on down, and this abandonment condoned and tolerated by the Democratic party members in furtherance of the Progressive agenda. We saw this in Wisconsin’s Joe Doe attacks against the republican governor and conservative advocacy groups. And they are emboldened by the corruption of the US DOJ and FBI by their willful blindness to the Clinton’s criminal activities (willful destruction of public records, conspiracy to do the same, willful mishandling classified, acceptance of graft payments, and perjury before Congress).
And this rot has started at the very top of the Obama Admin, and Democrats and liberal media reporters not only don’t care, they cheer it on and aid and abet it.
This seems perfectly consistent with the general finding that criminals have a lower IQ on average than members of the population as a whole, although the point should be nailed down more securely. And maybe it’s time to go after 350.org as well – since they were a part of this whole fiasco.
“Holman Jenkins Jr.: “Yeah, that’s one of the sad things about this. Remember that is all kicked off when this website, Inside Climate News and the Los Angeles Times, independently produced supposedly investigative reports exposing Exxon’s completely public and open research into climate science in the 70s and early 80s. It turns out both of those efforts were funded by Rockefeller Foundation, a group, an NGO, which also, along with other NGOs, simultaneously conferring with Attorney General Schneiderman about how to gin-up lawsuits based on these reports.”
Exxon ought to sue the Rockefeller Foundation for trying to undermine their business and costing their shareholders money.
Maybe when it is all over Eric Schneiderman will no longer have a viable political career. The Left doesn’t care if he uses illegal tactics to push the Leftist agenda, but the Left *does* care about failing to push the Leftist agenda successfully. Schneiderman’s political support may start to diminish going forward.
Free speech is still alive and well in the U.S.
Unless Hillary gets elected.
Corruption in the US is no different than in third world countries and it’s becoming more pronounced with the media leading the charge.
So Big Oil is attacking Big Oil (family feud?)…
In other words, it’s the Oil Czars (Rockefellers) themselves who are behind it all!
And they say big oil is behind all of the so-called ‘climate denial’ when in fact they are the ones who are funding the propaganda against climate skeptics…
Hard to figure, but right now, Anthony Weiner has better standing as a politician than these guys.
MacBeth weighs in with some expert testimony:
{The soon-to-be-former NY Attorney General is} a poor player
That strut{ed} and fret{ed} his hour upon the stage
And then {was} heard no more:
It {was} a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying
nothing.
Act V. Scene V.
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“Truthful lips endure forever,
but a lying tongue lasts only a moment.”
Hebrew Scriptures (Proverbs 12:19).
The “moment” can sometimes be years, even decades, long, but, every twisted player in the game of life, in the end, loses. Only a matter off weeks, now, until Hillary the Smiling Dragon, fully exposed to the light, already collapsing, shrivels completely away into a vile puddle of oily ooze and……..
TRUMP (and America) WINS!
But if you look at where the money from ‘Big Oil’ goes, you will find out that the government gets more money per gallon of gas than ‘Big Oil” … this means that more than half of ‘Big Oil’ money is then being used by the government to fund scientific studies thru federal grants, which are all tainted with ‘Big Oil’ money.
The odd thing is that the two people who made statements at that March presser, Gore and Jepson, have gone radio silent on this thing.
Also found a couple of odd photos of Gore with Pachauri that seem to be recent, trying to get the authenticated.
In a related development; my wife has instructed her engineering staff to design larger and more durable bins for detention of the loonies,
It is important to note that free speech does not require one to be right about matters of fact (not talking about libel). For example, an advocacy group can claim that a 95% marginal tax rate will not hurt anyone, or that aliens are living among us or that it should be illegal to own cats or any old crazy thing. The 1st amendment does not require that one’s beliefs be valid. You think climate change is the end of the world? free speech. You think the whole thing is overblown? free speech whether you are an individual, a corporation, or a think tank.
This does not apply to government agencies who manipulate data–they have a duty to do a proper job.
..Anthony..a slight misprint in ..Journalist: #ExxonKnew is ‘completely unraveling’
“But the other this is that Eric Schneiderman” … :”this” should be “thing”…
Super great article…Thanks for it !! …Made my day ! LOL
Question: What is the going rate for a photo op moment on climate change for an AG? And is there a bonus for using staff time to look busy on the topic? Does it equal a Hillary speech on Wall Street?
If they want to find evil and wrongdoing, they need look no further than Goldman Sachs. Oh wait, they’re a donor.
Naomi Who?
No Namie She.
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As pointed out several times before, the targeted have criminal options under 18USC241 and civil options under 42USC1983. Somebody just needs the courage and resources to act on on these clear federal civil rights statutes. Defendants include LAT, Inside Climate News, UCS, Gore and Oreskes aswell as at least MA, NY, and USVI AGs.
How do these AGs even dare to show their face in public? They should be SO embarrassed that they’ve made such an arse of themselves and brought such disrepute to their office, I’m surprised they haven’t quietly resigned and slunk off into the wilderness. The question is therefore, why haven’t they?
While we’re on the subject, perhaps it’s worth mentioning that the whole nefarious cap-and-trade scheme was dreamed up by a fine collection of n’er-do-wells including Enron’s CEO Ken Lay, BP’s Lord John Browne, President Bill Clinton and Vice President Gore.
Curiously, the moderation seems allergic to the link to the above.
How strange…
“First of all, it was a phony-bologna case to begin with, that Exxon had done these studies in the 70s on climate change and then lied to the public about what it had found. It didn’t. It published these studies in journals and made them available to everybody and they’ve been available ever since, so there was no mystery here….”
In order to throw an additional wrench into the works of this, I think it would be interesting if ExxonMobil or someone else could dig up old copies of those journals where these studies were published. Then the notion that ExxonMobil engaged in any kind of fraud would be near impossible to support in my view. And that would include hiding anything from shareholders and defrauding them.
Looks to me like Exxon was right in line with some of our “experts” at the time. From the LAT’s ‘investigation,
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By the early 1990s, Exxon began putting its new public relations strategy into practice.
At the company’s annual shareholders’ meeting in 1990, the board of directors denounced a dissident shareholder proposal that called for Exxon to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, citing “great scientific uncertainties” about the environmental effects of global climate change.
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From a Dec, 1989 news article from the Santa Cruz news article:
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Analysis of warming since 1881 shows most of the increase in global temperature happened before 1818 – before the more recent sharp rise in the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, said Thomas Karl, of NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N. C.
“ While global climate warmed overall since 1881, it actually cooled from 1921 to 1979, Karl said.”
In Spite of all the well-publicized concern about global warming, you must understand that there is still considerable uncertainty among scientific experts about a number of critical factors which determine global warming,” NOAA Administrator John Knauss said in a statement issued for the geophysics meeting.
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Sue NOAA.